Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=HenryT458;5953918]Nope. Agreed to a meet and greet but she ghosted.[/QUOTE]I met her, and had a decent platonic meeting (no fee request or anything). I was excited for the intimate date we scheduled, then she was drunk out of her fucking mind when the time of the date came (kept texting to ask where we were meeting, even after the phone call where I told her let's find another time). I am not going to fuck a girl who's that far gone -- the last thing I want her to do is decide the next day that I raped her. She's cute but not worth the flakiness and the addiction problem.

[QUOTE=SdPhilly;5964934]I met her, and had a decent platonic meeting (no fee request or anything). I was excited for the intimate date we scheduled, then she was drunk out of her fucking mind when the time of the date came (kept texting to ask where we were meeting, even after the phone call where I told her let's find another time). I am not going to fuck a girl who's that far gone -- the last thing I want her to do is decide the next day that I raped her. She's cute but not worth the flakiness and the addiction problem.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about this girl?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0de49eda-decc-462c-af85-eb0020ca81dc[/URL]

IF so she is permanently drunk as she as asking for $4,000.00 to $5,000.00 per month or $48,000 to $60,000 per year! At a rate of $1,000.00 per meeting! She told me MANY guys have offered her that, I hope you weren't one of them.

I mean shit at $250 per meet I could fuck 4 times for what this broad wants. She is delusional or drunk! Very few times have I had to pay over $200 ppm to a SB, PLus drop $150 on a room. Yeah, she can't host!

I mean maybe you are new and don't know any better? I guess if she can get those prices, there are way more suckers out there than I think? Just saying!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5965051]Are you talking about this girl?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0de49eda-decc-462c-af85-eb0020ca81dc[/URL]

IF so she is permanently drunk as she as asking for $4,000.00 to $5,000.00 per month or $48,000 to $60,000 per year! At a rate of $1,000.00 per meeting! She told me MANY guys have offered her that, I hope you weren't one of them.

I mean shit at $250 per meet I could fuck 4 times for what this broad wants. She is delusional or drunk! Very few times have I had to pay over $200 ppm to a SB, PLus drop $150 on a room. Yeah, she can't host!

I mean maybe you are new and don't know any better? I guess if she can get those prices, there are way more suckers out there than I think? Just saying![/QUOTE]No, I was talking about Cassiexoxo, who was mentioned by the previous poster.

Hey all, I apologize in advance for no hyperlink to the profile, we deleted each other before I had a chance to report LOL. But, inflation IS getting out of hand. Had been talking to this married bi / lesbian couple in Swedesboro NJ for a bit (username DoubleTroub) and all was going well until allowance was discussed. They were down with 3 somes (mandatory, they don't play separate) playing with each other (obv) the 3 of us all taking turns while the 3rd watched, 2 v 1 , etc. They said they don't host, BJ is bare but all sex is covered. And then (here's the kicker) said they were expecting 500 . EACH. For EACH visit. I laughed (to myself) wished them luck on that, then bailed. Like I said, no link to profile, but pics attached.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5965051]Are you talking about this girl?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0de49eda-decc-462c-af85-eb0020ca81dc[/URL]

IF so she is permanently drunk as she as asking for $4,000.00 to $5,000.00 per month or $48,000 to $60,000 per year! At a rate of $1,000.00 per meeting! She told me MANY guys have offered her that, I hope you weren't one of them.

I mean shit at $250 per meet I could fuck 4 times for what this broad wants. She is delusional or drunk! Very few times have I had to pay over $200 ppm to a SB, PLus drop $150 on a room. Yeah, she can't host!

I mean maybe you are new and don't know any better? I guess if she can get those prices, there are way more suckers out there than I think? Just saying![/QUOTE]We ALL know all SB'S start with a super high number. And all guys start with a low number. It's a delicate process of negotiation to where the SD needs to establish, rules and boundaries, while getting the SB to understand he respects and cares for her, all the while letting her know she's going to be taken care of and getting her to open those legs. Like I said it can be a very delicate process. It's much more delicate than dealing with your average escort, as these girls don't want to be considered that. Even tho, they are STILL essentially providing the same, although, the SB I've had for over for years has done WAY more. Me, maybe just being a guy, I always want more. But, as far as the sack, (AND anywhere else) she had been everything I've ever needed.

Funny, tho. This girl, Cassie, listed "no drinking" in her profile🤣 maybe she should stick to that🤔.

[QUOTE=PPJones;5965092]We ALL know all SB'S start with a super high number. And all guys start with a low number. It's a delicate process of negotiation to where the SD needs to establish, rules and boundaries, while getting the SB to understand he respects and cares for her, all the while letting her know she's going to be taken care of and getting her to open those legs. Like I said it can be a very delicate process. It's much more delicate than dealing with your average escort, as these girls don't want to be considered that. Even tho, they are STILL essentially providing the same[/QUOTE]I agree with the above statements 100%. Hiring a SB is like going to the car dealership. They know they will ask way too much, I know I will lowball, and we both know the real number lies somewhere in between. The difference is, with some of these girls now, they actually believe they will get that ridiculous asking price. And I, for one, don't have the patience to begin negotiations with those types. I just move on to the next one on the list and start over. Yes, maybe I lose out on a gem here or there, but I've been playing in the sugar bowl long enough to tell the difference between an "ask" and an "expectation" at this point. And honestly, some of the fun in the sugar game is actually in the chase. When I need a sure thing, I can drop 20 on B-way or the Ave or head to stg. As someone in a previous post mentioned, just know the difference between a "want" and a "need".

[QUOTE=PPJones;5965092]We ALL know all SB'S start with a super high number. And all guys start with a low number. It's a delicate process of negotiation to where the SD needs to establish, rules and boundaries, while getting the SB to understand he respects and cares for her, all the while letting her know she's going to be taken care of and getting her to open those legs. Like I said it can be a very delicate process. It's much more delicate than dealing with your average escort, as these girls don't want to be considered that. Even tho, they are STILL essentially providing the same, although, the SB I've had for over for years has done WAY more. Me, maybe just being a guy, I always want more. But, as far as the sack, (AND anywhere else) she had been everything I've ever needed.

Funny, tho. This girl, Cassie, listed "no drinking" in her profile🤣 maybe she should stick to that🤔.[/QUOTE]I had been talking to a NYC girl that wanted a 10 k a month allowance. Had good conversation and respectfully declined. She kept texting me every few weeks and I'm like if you were getting that, why are you fishing to see if I changed my mind? I'm sure you are not madly in love with me, so obviously your expectations are unreasonable.

[QUOTE=Skyguy2;5965087]Hey all, I apologize in advance for no hyperlink to the profile, we deleted each other before I had a chance to report LOL. But, inflation IS getting out of hand. Had been talking to this married bi / lesbian couple in Swedesboro NJ for a bit (username DoubleTroub) and all was going well until allowance was discussed. They were down with 3 somes (mandatory, they don't play separate) playing with each other (obv) the 3 of us all taking turns while the 3rd watched, 2 v 1 , etc. They said they don't host, BJ is bare but all sex is covered. And then (here's the kicker) said they were expecting 500 . EACH. For EACH visit. I laughed (to myself) wished them luck on that, then bailed. Like I said, no link to profile, but pics attached.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I've reviewed that profile a few times, being only slightly tempted by the darker haired one, but you saved me the time with the 500/500 thing. Wow. Ridiculous. Even for just the one.

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5965429]I had been talking to a NYC girl that wanted a 10 k a month allowance. Had good conversation and respectfully declined. She kept texting me every few weeks and I'm like if you were getting that, why are you fishing to see if I changed my mind? I'm sure you are not madly in love with me, so obviously your expectations are unreasonable.[/QUOTE]So IF a girl keeps texting you after you have told her "NO!" to 10 K per month, wouldn't that indicate a level of desperation and flexibility? Otherwise could it be an obsessive type that needs to be blocked? If it were me I'd try again to negotiate a better deal and if rebuffed, politely wish her adieu. It's all part of the game, like a box of chocolates, each one is a bit different!

I mean every text or contact doesn't need to be responded to and it seems the new ethos of the day is ignoring unwanted texts. Don't over think this, just enjoy and have fun!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5967366]So IF a girl keeps texting you after you have told her "NO!" to 10 K per month, wouldn't that indicate a level of desperation and flexibility? Otherwise could it be an obsessive type that needs to be blocked? If it were me I'd try again to negotiate a better deal and if rebuffed, politely wish her adieu. It's all part of the game, like a box of chocolates, each one is a bit different!

I mean every text or contact doesn't need to be responded to and it seems the new ethos of the day is ignoring unwanted texts. Don't over think this, just enjoy and have fun![/QUOTE]There's a term in negotiation called "anchoring". If she starts at $10 k that's the anchor you're negotiating down from there. What would be the counter to get to a reasonable compromise, ten cents? $10 k is a hard no.

[QUOTE=Skyguy2;5965087]Hey all, I apologize in advance for no hyperlink to the profile, we deleted each other before I had a chance to report LOL. But, inflation IS getting out of hand. Had been talking to this married bi / lesbian couple in Swedesboro NJ for a bit (username DoubleTroub) and all was going well until allowance was discussed. They were down with 3 somes (mandatory, they don't play separate) playing with each other (obv) the 3 of us all taking turns while the 3rd watched, 2 v 1 , etc. They said they don't host, BJ is bare but all sex is covered. And then (here's the kicker) said they were expecting 500 . EACH. For EACH visit. I laughed (to myself) wished them luck on that, then bailed. Like I said, no link to profile, but pics attached.[/QUOTE]So you got to take the Duff with the Muff? For a Grand? Yeah good call!

RBD out.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5967366]So IF a girl keeps texting you after you have told her "NO!" to 10 K per month, wouldn't that indicate a level of desperation and flexibility? Otherwise could it be an obsessive type that needs to be blocked? If it were me I'd try again to negotiate a better deal and if rebuffed, politely wish her adieu. It's all part of the game, like a box of chocolates, each one is a bit different!

I mean every text or contact doesn't need to be responded to and it seems the new ethos of the day is ignoring unwanted texts. Don't over think this, just enjoy and have fun![/QUOTE]It's like this current housing market. There is usually some clown out there willing to pay it.

RBD out.

[QUOTE=RedBaronDaron;5968087]It's like this current housing market. There is usually some clown out there willing to pay it.

RBD out.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but I don't want to be the Sap who buys and then takes a 20% bath after we slide into recession and housing prices slide. 30-yr rate is over 6% now and mtg applications have nearly dried up, so we're getting close. Doubt there are enough dudes to keep paying these high prices to girls as inflation eats away buying power. Me thinks if one looks around, there is some girl that is comparable at a lesser rate and no need for buyer's remorse later when you find her.

IF you chase something in life because the other guy is after it too, often times there is disappointment waiting around the corner. So what if you "win" in getting the girl, in the end you shot a couple of tablespoons of jizz and your wallet is a whole lot lighter. I mean it isn't like you can post on FB, "Look what I got and you didn't!" Overpaying is the ultimate act of thinking with the little head.

So I'm happy to let the clowns take a bath and perhaps learn from "experience!" I'll wait for another opportunity or a girl that gets educated and reasonable.

[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;5957953][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7769baa8-cdab-4795-a99a-b7f96d1e9ff4[/URL][/QUOTE]She wants 5 a meet on a regular basis. NO BB.

[QUOTE=ReadyToTumble;5971079]She wants 5 a meet on a regular basis. NO BB.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. I'm glad I didn't continue corresponding with her. There was a range in age / quality in the photos too that slowed me down too.