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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6539777]Are you married? Ever been married? Twice for me. I can say without a doubt, there is no pussy that is free. If I calculated the effective "pay per meet" rate for the amount of sex I had w / my wives, it would be way higher than what escorts charge.[/QUOTE]Too damn true. Especially toward the end, where you can start to count the "meets" on your hands LOL.
How do you deal with girls asking for upfront deposits to show you aren't playing games? Seems like if I avoid these women. There aren't any interested in a sugar baby situation.
Ive tried offering like 300 the first meet when they ask for 1k. And they say its 1k or nothing.
[QUOTE=FairFight;6542658]How do you deal with girls asking for upfront deposits to show you aren't playing games? Seems like if I avoid these women. There aren't any interested in a sugar baby situation.
Ive tried offering like 300 the first meet when they ask for 1k. And they say its 1k or nothing.[/QUOTE]You need to realize that sugar dating is a numbers game. There are lots of people not serious about doing it the way we want. As soon as you get a hint of that, cut and run. You have to put in a lot of time just tossing them away. That is the only way you find gold nuggets though. You should spend a lot of time reading through the archives on the Richmond VA sugar thread, and read current masterpieces by sugar daddy masters, like Hollywood Guy. All of the tricks are there. The rewards are not to be believed. The idea that I would be happily banging girls one-half to one-third my age, it would have been inconceivable to me just a few years ago, when I first learned of sugar dating on this site.
I will attach just one example of the high quality girls I have been able to get, and I am one foot in the grave from the perspective of many of these. And this is in Cali, where the women all seem to be smoking hot.
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6541770]Anyone with experience with flying a SB out to you? If you're doing that and covering hotel stays are you also paying ppm and if so, is it at the same rate?[/QUOTE]Unless you know them well, and I mean government names exchanged a few trips ago, I would Not do it unless you are willing to lose the ticket money.
If you did fly them out, I would not leave them in a room with your name attached to it. Besides banging other dudes, she will smoke in it, and do the things kids do when its not their dough. Give her the cash and visit as often as you can to make it worth your while. Don't do it! Been there. It ain't pretty.
[QUOTE=Tyrex2;6542622]Too damn true. Especially toward the end, where you can start to count the "meets" on your hands LOL.[/QUOTE]My wife gets nice clothes, dinners, country club membership, credit card and travel. She doesn't work. And the rare sex that we have is a boring, obligatory quickie. She is the ultimate sugar baby!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f213d907-72bd-4640-a6d1-37321a4bcdb7[/URL]
Dtf wants 8.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6543920][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f213d907-72bd-4640-a6d1-37321a4bcdb7[/URL]
Dtf wants 8.[/QUOTE]She is worth 5 for sure long term right?
[QUOTE=NapataJohn;6543972]She is worth 5 for sure long term right?[/QUOTE]Did not bother. I'll just wait until the weekend to bang models in NYC.
She looks like a nice girl, unfortunately she may be fucking everyone on site, it's a problem for anyone who like to go without a raincoat if she's fucking too many guys at same time. I like to avoid those but sometimes you make mistakes. This one though was obvious as couple of months back I reached out and exchanged numbers, she immediately texts asking to meet same night, without too much of an intro or anything. I passed, although I like the body type.
[QUOTE=NapataJohn;6543972]She is worth 5 for sure long term right?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Emesdee;6539420]I would bet a lot of money she's not real. I've notice from talking to some of the fake Asian accounts and they consistently come off quite cold, obviously due to the fact it's just a guy talking. I got the same vibe talking to Coco. She practically told me she doesn't enjoy sex. Way to sell yourself. Anyway, I asked her for a photo of her with ANY DC landmark in the photo and the response was that I was being too picky and that we should just meet, but clearly based on your experience, that's never actually happening.[/QUOTE]I often ask myself, when encountering a fake or scammer or someone with goals other than hooking up on the site, "what's the angle?
And sometimes I seriously cannot figure it out. Why would a "scammer" chat with guys for days, weeks, months on end with no "payoff"? Often you see them making their play within a few exchanges, asking to sell pics or get some info out of you. They're playing a numbers game and I at least get that.
But the ones who just waste time forever. What do they get out of it? Are they trying to harvest PII? Some other kind of fraud? Got to think some of it is mental illness.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c2b774e0-270b-4ad2-9d78-23bf4f135c8b[/URL]
Dtf can be had for 4.
Too fat for me plus the fact you need to pick her up in the hood.
It's a no.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/55b8a2d4-06e5-4ef7-92bb-e2360ab9cde2[/URL]
She's back. Cream pie for 300 a couple of years back.
Odd request but I'm going on a Caribbean cruise with family and would love to find a little fun aboard. Out of 2,000 people or whatever there have to be a couple girls who are sugaring, right? How would I ever find them? I'm going to use Tinder and Whisper but I don't guess Seeking girls would change their location to the nearest port or somewhere else? Anyone ever pulled this hobby off at sea?
[QUOTE=Pathfinder04;6545028]Odd request but I'm going on a Caribbean cruise with family and would love to find a little fun aboard. Out of 2,000 people or whatever there have to be a couple girls who are sugaring, right? How would I ever find them? I'm going to use Tinder and Whisper but I don't guess Seeking girls would change their location to the nearest port or somewhere else? Anyone ever pulled this hobby off at sea?[/QUOTE]Surely they have a bar? Unless you need discretion in which case I don't think a cruise would be a good place to look for that sort of thing.
[QUOTE=Shier;6544797]But the ones who just waste time forever. What do they get out of it? Are they trying to harvest PII? Some other kind of fraud? Got to think some of it is mental illness.[/QUOTE]A couple of years back, I was chatting w / a couple of unobtainable profiles on seeking. Both eventually got around to crypto. Bragging about all the dough they were making doing it, etc. So, that was sort of good, they were less needy for sugar than the average college student. But yes, we never got around to meeting, not even to talking by phone. Both I think I messaged off the site, one by text, one on Telegram. Eventually, they faded away.
If they were guys, the only thing I could think of is that they believed pumping up crypto would help their investments. If that is so, they were sorely mistaken, it didn't affect me in the least. But perhaps they were dumb enough to think that, and being dumb and gullible appears to me to be a main trait of people who pump up crypto currency. Not to say some haven't already made a bundle, or that someone could score in short term / lucky streak. I prefer to take my gambling money to the racetrack, where I know the odds and payoffs.