NoVA SugarBabies

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9a847f4b-ba37-4d39-8a1b-f0fc08d444c9[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/user/amberleighhh/[/URL]

A pro?

[QUOTE=CireSire;6509226]She is a cool chick. Had a great time. She is bigger than the pics posted. She is still attractive and turned heads when we were out on the town. BB but YMMV. Didn't repeat but might again.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c26966f9-8f6e-4933-a066-87d533d09e6b?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]

She is A LOT BIGGER than pics. Like at least 30-50 lbs bigger. Cute face but that is it. Deflated top, wide / BIG hips, a lot of stomach. Her BBBJ is meh (great effort but she needs to DT more), she can take a pounding and give msog. It was worth a shot. ONCE. But never again.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6534756]It is to keep their business model working and not violate FOSTA / SESTA. Evidently, this is important enough to them that they are willing to pay girls a bounty. I have never heard this before, I would check w / a few more POTs. It is one way a girl could make dough from the site, but likely much less than an allowance. Or perhaps it wasn't even a girl, just that proverbial guy in his basement. A crafty enough idea, a monger might have come up with it.

The fact is, PPM is clearly a violation of the TOS of the site, regardless of where you have the convo you are vulnerable. The site does not want guys who will get them in trouble w / the Feds. I am sure there are informal conversations between prosecutors and the site about this all the time. The percentage of people (or number / month) who get banned is something the site surely knows and a prosecutor might ask about. I want the site to persist, because what I want I can't find on backpage or its descendants.

I have never discussed money on the site, or by text. I always find it better for me to defer that to a M&G. If you are negotiating money w / a girl you have never met, you aren't really a SD. And, you are going to pay the rate that a girl would charge if she were an escort (even if neither you nor she want to call her that).

I recently met a lovely young woman, who is obviously totally into sex. IK that only after meeting her though. She and I have great interactions, and she readily agreed to 1 K / month for 3 meets. I am happy to have someone like her locked down for an ongoing arrangement, what I seek on that site. Win-win.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Seeking will show that they are auditing and share the audit results which will show that they are diligent and catching people. So they are clear from authorities.

I am also very careful. But sometimes I do slip up. Even though I know what you said, I needed a wakeup call. So thanks. Some thoughts along these lines.

1. I used to give my number on the site and so when we are off the site texting. She can screenshot you and the seeking can use the phone number to tie you to the profile and convo. Maybe better to ask for her number.

2. They ask who is this and if you reply profile name. That can be used to tie the convo to the profile.

So I think its best to get them to the meet and greet and agree with your advice. If someone has a better fool proof way, please share.

[QUOTE=FrankCastle6;6534472]She's most likely full of shit.

This her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a83924d5-0506-4696-81a5-9b281af60622[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, that's her and below is her text.

[QUOTE=JonFisher;6535341]Yes, that's her and below is her text.[/QUOTE]This may be some dude sitting in the basement. The profile has "True Love" tag; that always puts me on a high alert.

AstuteLady, 25, Washington, has just one picture. Can't link as I blocked profile.

Quick to respond, went to text fast, said want to meet at hotel or my place straight up. Red flags all over, so asked if she (assuming it is a she, could be a guy) want to get a M&G first, replied okay then went on to send sexy pictures, looks great but not perfect either to suspect stolen model pictures, she asked for $$. 4, then said want to hookup. I ignored all those and continued asking if we can meet and see if connection is there first, then said okay, agreed to meet at place I suggested without trouble even though her location was further away. All red flags. I was at this point thinking they'll ask money for travel, nothing. Then agreed on a time and I asked if we can talk an hour before, agreed. Fast forward, and I asked if she can talk, says can't talk only text, then follow up question should she start to come there, I said need to talk first as need to make sure, then she ask you think I am wasting time, and I said need to be sure. Then I get a call from that number, pickup and get some jumbled sound, like coming through a machine, all red flags confirm at this point as fake. Hang up, then comes message that my line was bad, should she come there, I don't respond. Fast forward, 30 minutes later ask me if I have reached there? Did not respond. I had blocked the profile already.

Question is why all this trouble? No money was asked and no booking done, place was of my choosing, what's the upside? Just send people on a wild trip wasting their time and gas money? For what gain. I don't get all these weirdos on the site.

This one below is straight up ask for M&G money scam, says want long term connection, then ask $$. 15 for meeting. I decline and convo stopped.

KindVenus.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5ba49419-a539-407a-9629-78a93c9f8117[/URL]

In between all this, hit upon a real one, straight up ask me to come to hotel she was at, and knew she was real, went there and had a good time, kind of big girl but cute, nice mouth with good suction and BBFS offered. She says will be back again and want to see again, so will wait before sharing. But some of you may have found her, she's been talked about in another areas forum.

Any intel in these two? Profile seems sketchy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/252b6351-6a1c-4c9a-9cd8-6e52f623c64e[/URL]

Any intel on this voluptuous Latina?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7b4d664f-ce68-4d2a-b0b9-662e3a147af2[/URL]

Located in Fredericksburg. Her profile may be gone.

She ask for money for photos. The photos are of Aidra Fox.

Apologies as this may not be the appropriate thread to ask this. Is anyone else experiencing random logout from Seeking? No warning, all of the sudden, *poof* and you're at the login screen. ALWAYS when composing a message. Other than that, no rhyme or reason and it's not based on a time limit, because sometimes it will be hours or even days between occurrences, and sometimes multiple times per hour.

[QUOTE=Shier;6537393]Apologies as this may not be the appropriate thread to ask this. Is anyone else experiencing random logout from Seeking? No warning, all of the sudden, *poof* and you're at the login screen. ALWAYS when composing a message. Other than that, no rhyme or reason and it's not based on a time limit, because sometimes it will be hours or even days between occurrences, and sometimes multiple times per hour.[/QUOTE]Happens to me all the time when I'm accessing the site from my iPad. If not every day, then every other day. And just as you said, always happens when I'm composing. Random af.

[QUOTE=Shier;6537393]Apologies as this may not be the appropriate thread to ask this. Is anyone else experiencing random logout from Seeking? No warning, all of the sudden, *poof* and you're at the login screen. ALWAYS when composing a message. Other than that, no rhyme or reason and it's not based on a time limit, because sometimes it will be hours or even days between occurrences, and sometimes multiple times per hour.[/QUOTE]It has happened to me also. However, when you log back in and go the same message, it saves your text in Cache.

[QUOTE=Joe1278;6537615]It has happened to me also. However, when you log back in and go the same message, it saves your text in Cache.[/QUOTE]Similar experience, though not exactly the same. I have thought that it was based on time, about an hour logged in is when it happens to me.

I used to enjoy perusing the main page, for profiles I would not hit on through my usual searches, but still might be interesting to me. However, this new main page they have blows for that. Around every hour or two, the site changed up the profiles it presented there. I figured that was similar to the refresh of the login.

I am guessing that having a limit on log in is part of their security strategy, they don't want someone to be snooping around. This is possible for the knowledgeable. Long ago, a dude figure out that you could go into the guts of the site and read messages sent to you even when you didn't have a paid membership. This was super helpful. You still could not send a message, but often you would get a number or something to message off the site. Of course, that got posted on here, and eventually it got back to the techs at seeking, and they closed that loophole.

AstuteFan (age 23) is a gas scammer. I would post the link, but her profile disappeared completely (ie, not an Attractive Member) so not sure what happened there. I got her number (she has an iphone) we text and she sends a couple of sexy pics. I tell her what I'm looking for and she reciprocates with largely the same. I ask her out. She then asks about selling videos and pics for "just a little bucks". That should've been the first red flag. I decline. She said that is ok, then ask what my availability is. I tell her and we set up a date two days later. The day of I text her and she says she is still on. 7:00 rolls around and I ask if she was there. She asked where I was. Then texted ok baby on my way. Then asks for "some little bucks" for gas, then asked how do I tip. Of course, offered cash and that never works, I'd have to cashapp her. Poor thing was stranded at the gas station. LOL.

AstuteLady mentioned earlier is same. I figured no chance of meeting and the profile is fake, so never went. I guess the idea is to pump you hard with sexy pictures and promise of good time to come with explicit offers, then make you stranded so you feel may be sending a little gas money will get you laid with a pretty girl. Experienced guys know to be fucking patient, patience will always get you laid, eventually. Even if I went there, no way I am paying any gas money, but would end up wasting a bunch of time. These scammers are easy to spot because they leave you with red flags all over. Just too annoying as it takes up a bunch of your time away.

[QUOTE=ChadwickX;6538052]AstuteFan (age 23) is a gas scammer. I would post the link, but her profile disappeared completely (ie, not an Attractive Member) so not sure what happened there. I got her number (she has an iphone) we text and she sends a couple of sexy pics. I tell her what I'm looking for and she reciprocates with largely the same. I ask her out. She then asks about selling videos and pics for "just a little bucks". That should've been the first red flag. I decline. She said that is ok, then ask what my availability is. I tell her and we set up a date two days later. The day of I text her and she says she is still on. 7:00 rolls around and I ask if she was there. She asked where I was. Then texted ok baby on my way. Then asks for "some little bucks" for gas, then asked how do I tip. Of course, offered cash and that never works, I'd have to cashapp her. Poor thing was stranded at the gas station. LOL.[/QUOTE]