Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3069454]Kaneshiro says, "Human trafficking is a growing concern and we have created a unit tasked with investigating and charging owners of brothels operating as massage parlors and relaxation salons." This is guilt by association and a false premise right from the word go. Since when is or has human trafficking been going on in the AMPs? He's not going to shut down human trafficking by going after the parlors! Two entirely separate issues. Totally bogus. Yet, Kaneshiro probably will get away with this because Americans were stupid enough to go along with the invasion of Iraq which nation had nothing to do with 9/11, and locally the citizens of Hawaii were gullible enough to allow themselves to get roped into the fucking choo-choo-train fiasco.[/QUOTE]Kaneshiro doesn't know what he's talking about. Look for trafficked women in AMPs is a bit of a waste; most of the girls I've encountered tell me that they choose to be AMP workers; they have their reasons, love of sex, deciding that if they going to fuck the may as well make a buck (monetizing the pussy), need money to finance lifestyle or raise kids, college etc.

The way these girls move from place to place so freely, I doubt that they are being forced by some gangster or trafficker to be in the business.

I think if Kaneshiro is looking for human trafficking he will have no problem finding it in the MPs. I don't really know what the definition of the law is but. 99 percent of those girls are not residents of Hawaii. They all come from different states to work here. In that light. That's where the trafficking comes in. Being held against their will is totally bullshit everyone knows they basically come on their free will to check out the work scene here. Some like it and some leave in week or two. But on the trafficking side. None will back up the Mama or owner if they were to be questioned or arrested thus easy case for states evidence. They will probably say they were asked to work there or brought in and being from a different state perhaps the trafficking laws apply. They are using that new law they passed on human trafficking and it is scary if you think of it. 5 girls come in to work and you get 5 counts of trafficking. It would make an owner think twice about staying open or closing. Theres always the ones that will say its not going to happen to me or the ones that will hire a lawyer to stay open. In any case I'm sure what's going to happen is. The bigger popular places will hire legal counsel to get around this and stay open. The smaller places will fall to the wayside and probably there will be more indys popping up. All I know is I'm not stopping at this moment so enjoy this time when its still good. Happy fucking boys.

[QUOTE=BotoMoco;3069907]I think if Kaneshiro is looking for human trafficking he will have no problem finding it in the MPs. I don't really know what the definition of the law is but. 99 percent of those girls are not residents of Hawaii. They all come from different states to work here. In that light. That's where the trafficking comes in. Being held against their will is totally bullshit everyone knows they basically come on their free will to check out the work scene here. Some like it and some leave in week or two. But on the trafficking side. None will back up the Mama or owner if they were to be questioned or arrested thus easy case for states evidence. They will probably say they were asked to work there or brought in and being from a different state perhaps the trafficking laws apply. They are using that new law they passed on human trafficking and it is scary if you think of it. 5 girls come in to work and you get 5 counts of trafficking. It would make an owner think twice about staying open or closing. Theres always the ones that will say its not going to happen to me or the ones that will hire a lawyer to stay open. In any case I'm sure what's going to happen is. The bigger popular places will hire legal counsel to get around this and stay open. The smaller places will fall to the wayside and probably there will be more indys popping up. All I know is I'm not stopping at this moment so enjoy this time when its still good. Happy fucking boys.[/QUOTE]Used to be, if a monger was unfortunate enough to be present in a local AMP when a LE bust went down, the monger would be allowed to leave without so much as a hand-slap by LE, or this is the impression I had gotten in the past from reading this board. In terms of new laws, is a monger potentially in more trouble these days in the scenario I just outlined?

[QUOTE=Kalani69;3063969]Don't you mean further EAST toward Quebec and Montreal? Vancouver is in British Columbia, the western most Canadian province. Wouldn't want mongers to think it's a short plane ride to hit on dem frenchies. Actually on my way to both Quebec and Montreal next month. Will report on and any successful AMP runs.[/QUOTE]Montreal is in Quebec. Saying you're going to Quebec and Montreal is like saying you are going to California and Los Angeles. .

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3070465]Used to be, if a monger was unfortunate enough to be present in a local AMP when a LE bust went down, the monger would be allowed to leave without so much as a hand-slap by LE, or this is the impression I had gotten in the past from reading this board. In terms of new laws, is a monger potentially in more trouble these days in the scenario I just outlined?[/QUOTE]Although it's uncertain what the police will do, there may now sometimes be more potential for trouble. As previously posted:

[QUOTE=Redneck1;2983439][QUOTE=Blake123;2983389]I haven't read the actual language of the new law, but what I'm wondering is if it will result in stronger penalties against any monger who is busted while being with a working girl.[/QUOTE]Yes, in some instances. Here's an example that involves only adults. Simply paying, or offering or agreeing to pay, a fee to engage in sexual conduct with an adult has usually been a petty misdemeanor in Hawaii. Pursuant to the new law, however, if the adult "is a victim of sex trafficking," the offense becomes a class C felony, punishable by up to five years of imprisonment and up to a $10,000 fine. The customer or potential customer doesn't need to know for sure that the adult provider is a victim of sex trafficking, because the new law says that even "reckless disregard of the fact that the other person is a victim of sex trafficking" is sufficient. An adult provider is considered a victim of sex trafficking if the provider was compelled or induced by a pimp, so-called boyfriend, or anyone else "by force, threat, fraud, or intimidation to engage in prostitution". So in light of the new law, mongers should be extra careful that a provider isn't being compelled or induced by anyone, by force, threat, fraud or intimidation, to engage in prostitution. The law also provides that a victim of sex trafficking can file a civil lawsuit against someone who "hired, or attempted to hire the individual to engage in prostitution, when a reasonable person would believe that the individual was coerced into prostitution by another person or was being subjected to sex trafficking".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3070718]Although it's uncertain what the police will do, there may now sometimes be more potential for trouble. As previously posted:[/QUOTE]Whoa. No shit. Thats really fucked up. I never thought of it in that light. You're so right if the MP is charged with human trafficking then of course the girl is the victim and a monger would be the unknown accomplice to the fact you are fucking someone who is considered to be in the human trafficking light. That's so fucked up. I would hate to be the first example of a bust that goes down and they pin a monger for that too. That pretty much changes the ball game right there. This shit got serious fast. Hopefully we can line up some outcalls where you wouldn't even have to go to the MPs. There is a higher risk now visiting those places. Don't know what to say about this but Fuck.

[QUOTE=LittleDickie;3070589]Montreal is in Quebec. Saying you're going to Quebec and Montreal is like saying you are going to California and Los Angeles. .[/QUOTE]Sorry, I meant to say I'm going to Quebec City and Montreal, which are two different cities. Picky, picky. LOL.

[QUOTE=Kalani69;3070801]Sorry, I meant to say I'm going to Quebec City and Montreal, which are two different cities. Picky, picky. LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha! Just messing with you. Your post was actually correcting the other poster about east vs. West. I just found humor that your corrective post had it's own error. I figured you knew better and it was probably a typo. Anyway, have fun man. I've never been but always wanted to, more so after meeting all the frenchgfe gals that came to Hawaii.

[QUOTE=LittleDickie;3070589]Montreal is in Quebec. Saying you're going to Quebec and Montreal is like saying you are going to California and Los Angeles. .[/QUOTE]Maybe it's more like saying, New York and Albany.

[QUOTE=BotoMoco;3070766]Whoa. No shit. Thats really fucked up. I never thought of it in that light. You're so right if the MP is charged with human trafficking then of course the girl is the victim and a monger would be the unknown accomplice to the fact you are fucking someone who is considered to be in the human trafficking light. That's so fucked up. I would hate to be the first example of a bust that goes down and they pin a monger for that too. That pretty much changes the ball game right there. This shit got serious fast. Hopefully we can line up some outcalls where you wouldn't even have to go to the MPs. There is a higher risk now visiting those places. Don't know what to say about this but Fuck.[/QUOTE]Might be prudent to ask the provider if she is working on her own free will. But I agree, if you no like get burned, stay away from AMP fires.

I wanted to try something other than an asian provider. So I started browsing on line and came across a black female name Kimmie at Ocean Spa and she looked hot in the pic. So I called and Kimmie tells me there are a lot of girls working tonight. So I get there and Kimmie opens the door. I was impressed with her face and body. I asked to see the girls and she tells me Shasha is busy with a customer and its just her. So I decide to try her out. Gave her the hf which was 60. She walks out really quick. I decided to back out and when she comes back I asked for my HF back and she told me NO they don't give the hf back. So, I said fine. Changed my mind again and she requested 200 up front. I gave it her. I laid down and she told me to flip over and started giving me a stupid oily back massage which felt shitty. She kept walking out of the room. I started to feel paranoid thinking about the recent raid at Gogo. Anyhow, she walks back in and tells me to flip over. Starts giving me a CBJ which did feel good. After 10 minutes into it, I tell her I'm ready to fuck. She tell me NO, its already been 30 minutes. And then tells me if I want to fuck, it will cost another 100. OMG! At that point I was mad and realized she upscaled my dumb ass. So I just laid there until she finished me off. I wasted 260 for a CBJ! Horrible searvice, bad attitude, upscale, rip off. I will never go back to Ocean Spa.

[QUOTE=Pursuer;3071451]Might be prudent to ask the provider if she is working on her own free will. But I agree, if you no like get burned, stay away from AMP fires.[/QUOTE]Of course they're going to say they're working out of their own free will, even if they aren't.

And even if they are, like other posters have said, they'll more than likely claim to be trafficking "victims" to avoid any kind of criminal prosecution and flip on the mamas and maybe even the johns.

Been going by the place the last week. Looks like it's closed — lights are dark, door's closed and there's no cars parked in the alley. Did notice what looked like a single, solitary light illuminated in the building, on the Femme Nu side.

I know it didn't have the best of reputations, but given that the future of the business in the area is up in the air because of the condo tower that's supposed to go up, and the fact that it's next to another AMP that's been raided in the past, I thought I'd pass this along.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3070718]Although it's uncertain what the police will do, there may now sometimes be more potential for trouble. As previously posted:[/QUOTE]You seem to have an understand of the law and the criminal justice system that's more than the average bear, so I'm curious how are the human trafficking laws different than the Mann act?

Aren't they technically addressing the same issues?

Granted, the Mann act is a federal law and the human trafficking law is a state law, but wouldn't the threat of federal time be a greater deterrrent to so-called traffickers?

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3071835]You seem to have an understand of the law and the criminal justice system that's more than the average bear, so I'm curious how are the human trafficking laws different than the Mann act?

Aren't they technically addressing the same issues?

Granted, the Mann act is a federal law and the human trafficking law is a state law, but wouldn't the threat of federal time be a greater deterrrent to so-called traffickers?[/QUOTE]Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Mann act basically deals with transporting minors across state lines.

[QUOTE=Nutmaker;3071853]Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Mann act basically deals with transporting minors across state lines.[/QUOTE]It was used for that, but the wording is: "An Act to further regulate interstate and foreign commerce by prohibiting the transportation therein for immoral purposes of women and girls, and for other purposes. ".

They also used it on boxer Jack Johnson because he liked white women (it was 1912) and apparently he brought his girlfriend over a state line. They also use it against polygamists as well, according to Wikipedia (take the source as you will).

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act[/URL]

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3071864]It was used for that, but the wording is: "An Act to further regulate interstate and foreign commerce by prohibiting the transportation therein for immoral purposes of women and girls, and for other purposes. ".

They also used it on boxer Jack Johnson because he liked white women (it was 1912) and apparently he brought his girlfriend over a state line. They also use it against polygamists as well, according to Wikipedia (take the source as you will).

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act[/URL][/QUOTE]Well then, as always, our local politicians needed to reinvent the wheel and waste our money, all in the name of looking busy.

[QUOTE=JSmooth87;3071660]I wanted to try something other than an asian provider. So I started browsing on line and came across a black female name Kimmie at Ocean Spa and she looked hot in the pic. So I called and Kimmie tells me there are a lot of girls working tonight. So I get there and Kimmie opens the door. I was impressed with her face and body. I asked to see the girls and she tells me Shasha is busy with a customer and its just her. So I decide to try her out. Gave her the hf which was 60. She walks out really quick. I decided to back out and when she comes back I asked for my HF back and she told me NO they don't give the hf back. So, I said fine. Changed my mind again and she requested 200 up front. I gave it her. I laid down and she told me to flip over and started giving me a stupid oily back massage which felt shitty. She kept walking out of the room. I started to feel paranoid thinking about the recent raid at Gogo. Anyhow, she walks back in and tells me to flip over. Starts giving me a CBJ which did feel good. After 10 minutes into it, I tell her I'm ready to fuck. She tell me NO, its already been 30 minutes. And then tells me if I want to fuck, it will cost another 100. OMG! At that point I was mad and realized she upscaled my dumb ass. So I just laid there until she finished me off. I wasted 260 for a CBJ! Horrible searvice, bad attitude, upscale, rip off. I will never go back to Ocean Spa.[/QUOTE]There have been many, many reports on both ocean spa No HF refund policy and Kimmie lame service. You are just another monger on a long list of mongers that reported pretty much the same. Thanks for the report. Hopefully someone else learned from your experience. Pau.

[QUOTE=PauHanaParty;3073390]There have been many, many reports on both ocean spa No HF refund policy and Kimmie lame service. You are just another monger on a long list of mongers that reported pretty much the same. Thanks for the report. Hopefully someone else learned from your experience. Pau.[/QUOTE]I recall a long time ago, another monger said this place had a lot of girls that had pimps. He didn't offer proof or name names but their type of shenanigans reeks of street walkers and by association, pimps or managed girls. On another note, my buddy was saying that girls who do all covered service are usually managed since their pimp fucks them too and he doesn't want to catch anything. I never had the balls to ask a girl if she had a pimp. But, I am now thinking that the "local" or American chicks at an AMP that only do all covered, may have a "boyfriend" or "manager". Anyone else think this?

[QUOTE=Matisse;3074630]I recall a long time ago, another monger said this place had a lot of girls that had pimps. He didn't offer proof or name names but their type of shenanigans reeks of street walkers and by association, pimps or managed girls. On another note, my buddy was saying that girls who do all covered service are usually managed since their pimp fucks them too and he doesn't want to catch anything. I never had the balls to ask a girl if she had a pimp. But, I am now thinking that the "local" or American chicks at an AMP that only do all covered, may have a "boyfriend" or "manager". Anyone else think this?[/QUOTE]Or maybe....STDs are rampant on this island and nobody (Especially most of these young girls) wants to catch anything from someone they paid money to have sex with. Most of the girls doing BB service are only doing it because its so prevalent in the island. Some of them can't compete otherwise.

[QUOTE=UncleHappy;3069115]Thanks for the great review. I've been interested in checking out Penny's, but the parking out front seems a little too obvious. What do you recommend for parking?[/QUOTE]I never park in the lot at the front for the reason you mention. Instead, try searching for parking on the residential side streets behind her place. Might have to drive around a little bit, but in my experience something always opens up. It's been awhile since I've been able to get over there, but I always had a satisfying massage and look forward to going again as soon as I can.

[QUOTE=Hawaii1959;3078581]I never park in the lot at the front for the reason you mention. Instead, try searching for parking on the residential side streets behind her place. Might have to drive around a little bit, but in my experience something always opens up. It's been awhile since I've been able to get over there, but I always had a satisfying massage and look forward to going again as soon as I can.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice and confirmation. I'm looking forward to checking her out.

[QUOTE=Hawaii1959;3078581]I never park in the lot at the front for the reason you mention. Instead, try searching for parking on the residential side streets behind her place. Might have to drive around a little bit, but in my experience something always opens up. It's been awhile since I've been able to get over there, but I always had a satisfying massage and look forward to going again as soon as I can.[/QUOTE]Hey all. Pretty new to this forum so figured I'd give it a go. I tried out Penny's place and it was a good massage. Clean environment. I met with Yuki and thought she was a smoking hot cougar. Great massage, no rush with a little tease but that was it. It was my first time so maybe she wasn't comfortable who knows. Was wondering if anyone had experience with Yuki? Would love to see her without her clothes on! Is it worth my time and money to repeat with her? Thanks all for your hard work out there! It's much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Hawaii1959;3078581]I never park in the lot at the front for the reason you mention. Instead, try searching for parking on the residential side streets behind her place. Might have to drive around a little bit, but in my experience something always opens up. It's been awhile since I've been able to get over there, but I always had a satisfying massage and look forward to going again as soon as I can.[/QUOTE]When I use to see Penny a long time ago, I would park in the back of the house. There's room for one car along with her SUV. Just be careful going in and out, I scraped my rims and fender on an exposed concrete something.

[QUOTE=Poiuy2;3080129]When I use to see Penny a long time ago, I would park in the back of the house. There's room for one car along with her SUV. Just be careful going in and out, I scraped my rims and fender on an exposed concrete something.[/QUOTE]I was wondering if you could do that. It would make it very discreet except if you go when the malasada crowd is next door.

Years ago the fence in the front was surrounded with shrubbery which would make it hidden from Beretania.

[QUOTE=Matisse;3074630]I recall a long time ago, another monger said this place had a lot of girls that had pimps. He didn't offer proof or name names but their type of shenanigans reeks of street walkers and by association, pimps or managed girls. On another note, my buddy was saying that girls who do all covered service are usually managed since their pimp fucks them too and he doesn't want to catch anything. I never had the balls to ask a girl if she had a pimp. But, I am now thinking that the "local" or American chicks at an AMP that only do all covered, may have a "boyfriend" or "manager". Anyone else think this?[/QUOTE]Even their mamasan hapa Jasmine at oceans has a pimp. As a bunch reported seeing her and her pimp out and about. I even saw him hanging out before. Dunno what happened to her but last I heard hapa jasmine was working the hotel scene and being a streetwalker like most pimped girls. I'd stay away from oceans especially after what happened to go go. Better to stick to the Asian spots for now. Just my two cents, not worth risking running into their pimps.

[QUOTE=SexBozo;2932050]Anyone knows if Jan is still working at his place. Any Intil or reviews. Would be nice.

Tired traveling to town.[/QUOTE]I know this is old, but not sure if you got your answer. Last I heard she's been gon for a while, then came back and left again. They got all new faces now.

[QUOTE=BJHawaii;3080806]I was wondering if you could do that. It would make it very discreet except if you go when the malasada crowd is next door.

Years ago the fence in the front was surrounded with shrubbery which would make it hidden from Beretania.[/QUOTE]I always parked in the back to. Why worry about malasada place. You park in front or on side streeet, you have the whole Beretania to worry about. Plus you can exit from the back door, which comes out right near the back and side lane.

Flesh.

[QUOTE=Fleshlight;3081530]I always parked in the back to. Why worry about malasada place. You park in front or on side streeet, you have the whole Beretania to worry about. Plus you can exit from the back door, which comes out right near the back and side lane.

Flesh.[/QUOTE]I was joking about the Malasadas but that place can get pretty packed. There is actually a high fence between the two properties.

I haven't been to Pennys in years but used to frequent that location when it was Narita, a long time ago.

[QUOTE=Jammum;3081364]I know this is old, but not sure if you got your answer. Last I heard she's been gon for a while, then came back and left again. They got all new faces now.[/QUOTE]Thanks jammum. Anyone good to check out there? Aloha.

[QUOTE=Niceguy808;3069140]Orchid Relaxation seems to be shutdown. A sign on the door says "Closed for Business".[/QUOTE]Orchid and the others in that block are closing down because of development. One of the things the developer mentioned as a plus for their plans is "replacing the sleazy businesses across from the convention center".

[QUOTE=Rdpuerco;3083362]Orchid and the others in that block are closing down because of development. One of the things the developer mentioned as a plus for their plans is "replacing the sleazy businesses across from the convention center".[/QUOTE]To be replaced by sleazy oligarchs from China, the Middle East and Europe seeking to hide their money in multi-million dollar condos.

Howzit everyone. Been way too long (again) since I've been back in the mix. Saw this ad on BP about a spot in Downtown. Located in Kukui Plaza. I work nearby and wanted to see if this place was any good or just a wait of kala. I may TOFTT soon and will post if I go. Safe mongering.

[URL]http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/stunning-luka-sweetandhot-sugar-cutie-kana-killer-smile-lillian-4-hand-w-kana-and-lillian-nani/6430365[/URL]

[QUOTE=SexBozo;3082984]Thanks jammum. Anyone good to check out there? Aloha.[/QUOTE]I haven't gone in a long time. They been turning real legit. Or should I say, all the ones who would play have left.

[QUOTE=BallnChain808;3083656]Howzit everyone. Been way too long (again) since I've been back in the mix. Saw this ad on BP about a spot in Downtown. Located in Kukui Plaza. I work nearby and wanted to see if this place was any good or just a wait of kala. I may TOFTT soon and will post if I go. Safe mongering.

[URL]http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/stunning-luka-sweetandhot-sugar-cutie-kana-killer-smile-lillian-4-hand-w-kana-and-lillian-nani/6430365[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?14096-Dream-Therapy-fka-Lava-Spa-fka-Blue-Angel[/URL]

This place has had its own Thread in this forum for a while.

Can somebody let me know which places are the places that give actual massages and he as well for massage price. I see a lot of reviews and general place names but can someone let me know the room number, number or name of the places that provide that. Seems like a good deal for the prices. Curious about the century center places.

[QUOTE=Mrniceguy54;3089009]Can somebody let me know which places are the places that give actual massages and he as well for massage price. I see a lot of reviews and general place names but can someone let me know the room number, number or name of the places that provide that. Seems like a good deal for the prices. Curious about the century center places.[/QUOTE]Call Helen at CC. Here is the ad.

[URL]http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/5792720344.html[/URL]

The few mentions of this place are kind of vague. Wondering if guys don't review because it sucks and they're being nice (ya right) or if guys are keeping girls to themselves. Feel free to pm with recommendations, but posts on the forum are better, as that's what it's here for.

Been out of the game for a bit and getting back in. Had a great experience recently but don't want to troll the house specific boards. I feel more relaxed with a hot bodied young Female asian masseuse, thin waist flat tummy, but nice boobs and ass. Any recommendations? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Pogopoge;3090125]Been out of the game for a bit and getting back in. Had a great experience recently but don't want to troll the house specific boards. I feel more relaxed with a hot bodied young Female asian masseuse, thin waist flat tummy, but nice boobs and ass. Any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Young is relative. What age range are you looking for? By your SN, I surmise you are anywhere from late 40's to very early 60's.