Anyone tried out PLUSH yet? I have sent 2 emails and never heard back. Like both the ladies in the upper right and lower left photo's.
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Anyone tried out PLUSH yet? I have sent 2 emails and never heard back. Like both the ladies in the upper right and lower left photo's.
[QUOTE=MrSeeker;2653415]Anyone tried out PLUSH yet? I have sent 2 emails and never heard back. Like both the ladies in the upper right and lower left photo's.[/QUOTE]I read a previous review and it said the place is not worth it. No extras and massage even sucked.
[QUOTE=DickHerDown;2653684]I read a previous review and it said the place is not worth it. No extras and massage even sucked.[/QUOTE]After trying to meet up with tanjie yesterday, it didn't work out. After a few texts never heard back from her. So I went to plush and had a wonderful experience. Called, made a appointment. Nice building safe, Nice clean rooms, the hot tub and suana room looked cool but only you get into the hot tub not both. I pick the 1 hour body rub, great rub down attractive black girl very friendly greats hands and a beautiful set of lips. Extras? Maybe its how you ask? I was Extremely happy with my visit. And have already set my appointment.
Anybody been to this place? I know she states no inappropriate request, but there in a wink at the end of the statement.
[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-and-relaxation-massage-by-female-lmt/24969782[/URL]
The pictures also seem strange, could it be a chick with a dick?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=OneBigRichard;2653881]After trying to meet up with tanjie yesterday, it didn't work out. After a few texts never heard back from her. So I went to plush and had a wonderful experience. Called, made a appointment. Nice building safe, Nice clean rooms, the hot tub and suana room looked cool but only you get into the hot tub not both. I pick the 1 hour body rub, great rub down attractive black girl very friendly greats hands and a beautiful set of lips. Extras? Maybe its how you ask? I was Extremely happy with my visit. And have already set my appointment.[/QUOTE]That's nice to hear. Thanks for the review.
[QUOTE=MassageIt;2654500]Anybody been to this place? I know she states no inappropriate request, but there in a wink at the end of the statement.
[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-and-relaxation-massage-by-female-lmt/24969782[/URL]
The pictures also seem strange, could it be a chick with a dick?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]She states that she is a female in her ad, Trannys are usually up front about who they are they won't lie. There is a market for them that's why they post. I like most men would be very upset if somebody posted they are a woman and really is a man, nothing but bad could come from that. And her photos look like a woman. HL29.
[QUOTE=MassageIt;2654500]Anybody been to this place? I know she states no inappropriate request, but there in a wink at the end of the statement.
[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-and-relaxation-massage-by-female-lmt/24969782[/URL]
The pictures also seem strange, could it be a chick with a dick?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have seen her. She gives a decent massage but no extras at all.
I'm talking about this one:
[URL]http://www.bitchesofbackpage.com/513-502-0504/[/URL]
She was on BP a few weeks ago and we started conversing through texts. In Norwood and seemed legit; sent a confirmation photo. Then went silent. Of course popped back up a few hours later saying she was overwhelmed and couldn't reply.
I get a text from her Saturday: "Hey sweety this is Autumn you should cum see me tonight doll!128139;" followed by "Ok love you want a facial pic or full body?" so I say both. Then she starts berating me that she doesn't send nudes. WTF? Why offer. I say I didn't ask for nudes. She offered. Then she says she has a GF with her, did I want to see both and she would send pics. Send me a photo of the GF I say. More berating that she doesn't send pics. I say, well you contacted me, so bye. More berating. I tell her I will put all this in a report to the fellas, to which she says: "Please do not do that if you do that you are taking food out of my kid's mouth!
Then a few minutes later, I get: "Really asking to you to show some compassion, is not for me for my children. " I say to her (again) that I never asked for nudes, and she says "You never came straight out and asked it but you implied it. " (WTF!
Then she texts me: 'Of 20 of clients who have posted good things about me on there so honestly do whatever you want I'm not going to sit here and kiss your ass so you don't but remember you are potentially taking things away from my children who are three and five so make sure you keep that in the back of your mind and on your conscience if you have one. ".
First I don't see 20 reviews of her. So I ask her to stop texting me. She sends me a text threatening me: "Just let you know though probably about besides me I am friends with or acquaintances with and I will let them all know not to talk to you. ".
This morning, Monday, at precisely 8 am I get this text: "Hey baby this is Autumn cum see me today I also have my gf summer here w me too very sexy also 100 each hh 160 h".
I text her back: "You're an idiot. Stop texting me. ".
Then she calls me.
Avoid.
Been there several times. Decent massage strictly legit with no chance of extras but who knows YMMV. Been reviewed here before look for Jenny.
Buster.
[QUOTE=MassageIt;2654500]Anybody been to this place? I know she states no inappropriate request, but there in a wink at the end of the statement.
[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-and-relaxation-massage-by-female-lmt/24969782[/URL]
The pictures also seem strange, could it be a chick with a dick?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JbLover32;2650953]Stopped by after work tonight. Been a long time since I've went to a parlor. Basically since they all shut down back in 2004. Always thought about going there but never took the dive. It's basically on my way home from work.
Standard system and ample parking. It is located next to a popular restaurant and verizon store so plan to take a lap around if you don't like people watching you go inside. Once in the front door there is a door bell and after ringing mama's an comes to get you.
June was my massause. She knows about this site BTW. She was busy when I first got there. I think she was the only one working. Mamasan took care of my table shower. After that a nice but short stint in the sauna I went back to my room. I'm not a huge fan of saunas. June was still busy so I had to wait about 10 to 15 min.
June came in and immediately took off the to well and got to work on the massage. Very nice relaxing massage but a little light for my preference. 3 levels of finishing offered at $60 $100 and $200. On top of the hour fee at $80 I thought was steep but chose the $100 option. Very enjoyable mind you.
Like I said seems a little high priced and maybe I go ripped off. If anyone else has had better luck with lower prices there I would love to know for next time.
I will be returning.[/QUOTE]What is the name of this spa?
[QUOTE=RE1975;2654593]I'm talking about this one:
[URL]http://www.bitchesofbackpage.com/513-502-0504/[/URL]
She was on BP a few weeks ago and we started conversing through texts. In Norwood and seemed legit; sent a confirmation photo. Then went silent. Of course popped back up a few hours later saying she was overwhelmed and couldn't reply.
I get a text from her Saturday: "Hey sweety this is Autumn you should cum see me tonight doll!128139;" followed by "Ok love you want a facial pic or full body?" so I say both. Then she starts berating me that she doesn't send nudes. WTF? Why offer. I say I didn't ask for nudes. She offered. Then she says she has a GF with her, did I want to see both and she would send pics. Send me a photo of the GF I say. More berating that she doesn't send pics. I say, well you contacted me, so bye. More berating. I tell her I will put all this in a report to the fellas, to which she says: "Please do not do that if you do that you are taking food out of my kid's mouth!
Then a few minutes later, I get: "Really asking to you to show some compassion, is not for me for my children. " I say to her (again) that I never asked for nudes, and she says "You never came straight out and asked it but you implied it. " (WTF!
Then she texts me: 'Of 20 of clients who have posted good things about me on there so honestly do whatever you want I'm not going to sit here and kiss your ass so you don't but remember you are potentially taking things away from my children who are three and five so make sure you keep that in the back of your mind and on your conscience if you have one. ".
First I don't see 20 reviews of her. So I ask her to stop texting me. She sends me a text threatening me: "Just let you know though probably about besides me I am friends with or acquaintances with and I will let them all know not to talk to you. ".
This morning, Monday, at precisely 8 am I get this text: "Hey baby this is Autumn cum see me today I also have my gf summer here w me too very sexy also 100 each hh 160 h".
I text her back: "You're an idiot. Stop texting me. ".
Then she calls me.
Avoid.[/QUOTE]I have been getting texts everyday. The same scripted text. I told her (them) today to absolutely stop texting me.
I have been a couple times (quite a while ago). No extras at all.
Sno.
[QUOTE=MassageIt;2654500]Anybody been to this place? I know she states no inappropriate request, but there in a wink at the end of the statement.
[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-and-relaxation-massage-by-female-lmt/24969782[/URL]
The pictures also seem strange, could it be a chick with a dick?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the update. Been looking into, this one and I will avoid it like the plague.
[QUOTE=RE1975;2654593]I'm talking about this one:
[URL]http://www.bitchesofbackpage.com/513-502-0504/[/URL]
She was on BP a few weeks ago and we started conversing through texts. In Norwood and seemed legit; sent a confirmation photo. Then went silent. Of course popped back up a few hours later saying she was overwhelmed and couldn't reply.
I get a text from her Saturday: "Hey sweety this is Autumn you should cum see me tonight doll!128139;" followed by "Ok love you want a facial pic or full body?" so I say both. Then she starts berating me that she doesn't send nudes. WTF? Why offer. I say I didn't ask for nudes. She offered. Then she says she has a GF with her, did I want to see both and she would send pics. Send me a photo of the GF I say. More berating that she doesn't send pics. I say, well you contacted me, so bye. More berating. I tell her I will put all this in a report to the fellas, to which she says: "Please do not do that if you do that you are taking food out of my kid's mouth!
Then a few minutes later, I get: "Really asking to you to show some compassion, is not for me for my children. " I say to her (again) that I never asked for nudes, and she says "You never came straight out and asked it but you implied it. " (WTF!
Then she texts me: 'Of 20 of clients who have posted good things about me on there so honestly do whatever you want I'm not going to sit here and kiss your ass so you don't but remember you are potentially taking things away from my children who are three and five so make sure you keep that in the back of your mind and on your conscience if you have one. ".
First I don't see 20 reviews of her. So I ask her to stop texting me. She sends me a text threatening me: "Just let you know though probably about besides me I am friends with or acquaintances with and I will let them all know not to talk to you. ".
This morning, Monday, at precisely 8 am I get this text: "Hey baby this is Autumn cum see me today I also have my gf summer here w me too very sexy also 100 each hh 160 h".
I text her back: "You're an idiot. Stop texting me. ".
Then she calls me.
Avoid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwoPumpChump;2654913]What is the name of this spa?[/QUOTE]Title of the post should be enough of a clue.
Did not help me sorry.
[QUOTE=TravelinJohn;2655538]Title of the post should be enough of a clue.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DoctorAl;2655753]Did not help me sorry.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but if you'll spend 30 minutes and RTFF, you'll have your answer. Not spoon feeding a noncontributor, even if you are a "senior".
[QUOTE=SnoMan;2655194]I have been a couple times (quite a while ago). No extras at all.
Sno.[/QUOTE]She is female. Went this week to check it. Probably the biggest waste of time and money ever spent. It was brutal waiting for my time to expire.
[QUOTE=JbLover32;2650953]Stopped by after work tonight. Been a long time since I've went to a parlor. Basically since they all shut down back in 2004. Always thought about going there but never took the dive. It's basically on my way home from work.
Standard system and ample parking. It is located next to a popular restaurant and verizon store so plan to take a lap around if you don't like people watching you go inside. Once in the front door there is a door bell and after ringing mama's an comes to get you.
June was my massause. She knows about this site BTW. She was busy when I first got there. I think she was the only one working. Mamasan took care of my table shower. After that a nice but short stint in the sauna I went back to my room. I'm not a huge fan of saunas. June was still busy so I had to wait about 10 to 15 min.
June came in and immediately took off the to well and got to work on the massage. Very nice relaxing massage but a little light for my preference. 3 levels of finishing offered at $60 $100 and $200. On top of the hour fee at $80 I thought was steep but chose the $100 option. Very enjoyable mind you.
Like I said seems a little high priced and maybe I go ripped off. If anyone else has had better luck with lower prices there I would love to know for next time.
I will be returning.[/QUOTE]I always park and use the entrance around back. A lot more discreet.
[QUOTE=TwoPumpChump;2641166]Well their straightforwardness in this ad is going to save us some time. LOL.
[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-most-beautiful-and-skilled-asian-massage-ladies/24414608[/URL][/QUOTE]Has anyone made a visit here. This one is fairly close home and thought about stopping in sometime.
[QUOTE=IDigit88;2659387]Has anyone made a visit here. This one is fairly close home and thought about stopping in sometime.[/QUOTE]Good massage, June is attractive. I had a difficult time understanding her as her accent is a little different from what I am used to. Southern Chinese I think. No extras apparently as none were hinted at and any attempts at roaming were highly discouraged.
I went knowing it was unlikely there would be extras, so I wasn't really surprised when that turned out to be true.
However, I was surprised by how bad the rest of the experience was. I walked in, big smile on my face, and the girl at the desk didn't even say "hello" or make eye contact. She said are you here for 60 or 90. I said 60. She took me around to the room and left while I got ready. She eventually came back (long time) and turned on some music. It was way too loud because she was trying to drown out the loud pop music coming from some other part of the building. She didn't even try to converse at all so I introduced myself and she gave up her name, but no other chat from her. Maybe she was having a bad day, but I've met bricks with more personality. The massage was not good, it was bad. She had no real training and at points I thought she was trying to hurt me on purpose. The bed didn't have a place for your face. After a while, I said I'd be ok without the draping but she wasn't ok with that, so it stayed on. It eventually ended and then, when I was paying, miraculously, her attitude got so much better! What a coincidence! She gave me a card for a free massage after 10 purchased (yeah, right). The massage was about 50 minutes long, not an hour. She must have subtracted the time I went to the bathroom before and also when she went for a smoke while I undressed before she came back to the room. The girl in question was black, with big boobs.
There's a Cincinnati police credit union across the street, I doubt that helps anything.
The best part of my trip was going to costco after and getting the best spot in the parking lot. Ha!
Oh well, thanks for letting me vent and I can mark this one off my list.
[QUOTE=IronBalls1;2660179]I went knowing it was unlikely there would be extras, so I wasn't really surprised when that turned out to be true.
However, I was surprised by how bad the rest of the experience was. I walked in, big smile on my face, and the girl at the desk didn't even say "hello" or make eye contact. She said are you here for 60 or 90. I said 60. She took me around to the room and left while I got ready. She eventually came back (long time) and turned on some music. It was way too loud because she was trying to drown out the loud pop music coming from some other part of the building. She didn't even try to converse at all so I introduced myself and she gave up her name, but no other chat from her. Maybe she was having a bad day, but I've met bricks with more personality. The massage was not good, it was bad. She had no real training and at points I thought she was trying to hurt me on purpose. The bed didn't have a place for your face. After a while, I said I'd be ok without the draping but she wasn't ok with that, so it stayed on. It eventually ended and then, when I was paying, miraculously, her attitude got so much better! What a coincidence! She gave me a card for a free massage after 10 purchased (yeah, right). The massage was about 50 minutes long, not an hour. She must have subtracted the time I went to the bathroom before and also when she went for a smoke while I undressed before she came back to the room. The girl in question was black, with big boobs.
There's a Cincinnati police credit union across the street, I doubt that helps anything.
The best part of my trip was going to costco after and getting the best spot in the parking lot. Ha!
Oh well, thanks for letting me vent and I can mark this one off my list.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your visit. Thats the hardest thing about a review, you read about a good time had by some, but when it your turn it goes nothing like the review that was written. It make me wonder how other people are asking for extra services or to take a dancer out of the club. It has to be how you ask or present ourselfs, with the chance of someone being LEO, I'm sure they have to be careful in there extra money making oppurinitty. But as I have learned thru trial and error, it does all come down to what you say, and how your saying it. It only takes you to say one wrong thing to shut down the deal, so remember kill them with kindness and baffle them with bullshit. Just be nice. Also have to remember, these girls are not escorts, they have a choice what services they perform. Because I've been to plush 3 times now, always left happy. So I'm not sure what happen with your visit. But be safe and good hunting.
Stopped by Lilly's first time in a very long time maybe 6-8 months. I'm sorry to say but massage was less then average. Nice looking New lady working, and I will give another shot because of that. She spent a lot of time on back and went quickly through everything else. Later in evening visit she may have been tired from long shift. Has anyone else noticed this, I'll let you know if the next visit us any better. Thanks.
I've been to Kenwood Rd half a dozen times and it's always been DIY. Went in the other day after a couple of months hiatus and nothing has changed.
The girl was attractive though (didn't catch her name) and the massage was above average with decent teasing. Tipped 2 jacksons cause she was a nice gal and she was satisfied.
Had an appointment with a girl that no call no showed on me, so went to an old reliable AMP. So I stopped in over at Nicholas street paid for an hr. Massage started ok, half way thru couple more mongers stopped in and they wanted to rush me out. So I ended up getting a deluxe h. E. I got shorted on my hour and still tipped $40. Senior members message me for details.
Will people stop giving tips for diy. If you keep doing this they Keep shorting us. Make them earn their tip. We need to make them a little more hungry for money.
Slide.
I get an Asian massage about once or twice a week. And I agree that you guys should have cojones and honesty to not tip over 20 bucks for diy. Going rate is 40-60, but you get this after building relationship with your massage provider. Respect those, who like to massage you, a lot of those girls like to keep it legit, you old (and young) pervs.
[QUOTE=StripJunkie;2659719]Good massage, June is attractive. I had a difficult time understanding her as her accent is a little different from what I am used to. Southern Chinese I think. No extras apparently as none were hinted at and any attempts at roaming were highly discouraged.[/QUOTE]Drove by June's Saturday and there was a "for rent" sign and the place appeared to be empty.
Proving that advertisements that threaten police action on customers is really not a good marketing plan. But at least they were honest upfront about no extras.
Any reports on this gal?
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/9988-ot-Wet-Massage-With-Bonus-Endings.html[/URL]
Genitalmen,
After reading this forum it sounds like regardless where you go around Cincinnati, its going to cost 5-8 Jacksons at any AMP to masturbate in the company of a non-interested woman. So here's my 2 cents:
1. AMP's generally give a poorer massage than an LMT.
2. LMT's are generally half the price and give amazing massages.
3. Happy endings aren't expected at either place. And do it yourself doesn't count. That's a sad ending actually after paying so much.
There are areas, states, and cities (Dallas and Detroit my 2 personal favorites) where its a free-for-all in Asian massage places. Everything erotic is on the menu and those services are the rule, not the exception. Same amount of Jacksons also as here.
Gentlemen, why even waste time visiting these places around here? And tipping to masturbate? CRAZY!
If you want a great massage, I get it. Visit a great LMT who's half the cost of an AMP. Otherwise, buy some baby oil and watch [URL]pornhub.com[/URL] and save a TON of Jacksons.
Doc.
I found myself on the West side of town but could not connect with my favorite. Since I was in the area I decide to give Plush a try. Now, I never ventured to Royalty Rain and was aware of their reputation or lack there of. So, I went in with low expectations but still left disappointed. The business is not marked and hard to find. I was lead to a room by one girl but massaged by another. The room was cold but not as cold as my masseuse. I could go on but why bother.
Guys,
For those thinking that I and others may be speaking in code, trying to cover up a good thing, or just don't know what we are doing, that is not the case. All I got was an overpriced average massage by a cold fish in a cold room. I will take an AMP over this place anytime. Even if guys are having luck with extras the inconsistency in service is not worth it.
No, don't think it, your mileage won't vary!
TNT.
[QUOTE=SalaMander;2670126]I get an Asian massage about once or twice a week. And I agree that you guys should have cojones and honesty to not tip over 20 bucks for diy. Going rate is 40-60, but you get this after building relationship with your massage provider. Respect those, who like to massage you, a lot of those girls like to keep it legit, you old (and young) pervs.[/QUOTE]I am not arguing or bragging.
Why would you tip anything for DIY? Going Rate? 40-60? It sounds like I visit as often as you and my usual tip is 20 and maybe 30 for something extra special. I have reasonable luck and they are always happy to see me again. There are a lot of variables that may play into tips but you guys are creating the situations of these girls demanding more for nothing.
Just my opinion.
TNT.
Salem is open again. Seems they just went out for a while to get some remodeling done. Very nice inside now but same ladies inside. I didn't have time to stay but table showers 10 for 10 minutes was advertised. I'll try to go soon but keep us updated if you get a chance to stop in.
[QUOTE=Dr_Know;2671011]Genitalmen,
After reading this forum it sounds like regardless where you go around Cincinnati, its going to cost 5-8 Jacksons at any AMP to masturbate in the company of a non-interested woman. So here's my 2 cents:
1. AMP's generally give a poorer massage than an LMT.
2. LMT's are generally half the price and give amazing massages.
3. Happy endings aren't expected at either place. And do it yourself doesn't count. That's a sad ending actually after paying so much.
There are areas, states, and cities (Dallas and Detroit my 2 personal favorites) where its a free-for-all in Asian massage places. Everything erotic is on the menu and those services are the rule, not the exception. Same amount of Jacksons also as here.
Gentlemen, why even waste time visiting these places around here? And tipping to masturbate? CRAZY!
If you want a great massage, I get it. Visit a great LMT who's half the cost of an AMP. Otherwise, buy some baby oil and watch [URL]pornhub.com[/URL] and save a TON of Jacksons.
Doc.[/QUOTE]Where do you find LMT's at half price from AMP? The LMT I go to charges 70. One reason I go to AMPs is if I have sore muscles. I want a massage now, not call a LMT and find out I can get a massage in a few days. Just my. 02 worth.
Mt.
Certainly the convenience is a big factor. That's the main reason I go. And of course hoping you find that diamond in the rough.
[QUOTE=MassageIt;2672883]Where do you find LMT's at half price from AMP? The LMT I go to charges 70. One reason I go to AMPs is if I have sore muscles. I want a massage now, not call a LMT and find out I can get a massage in a few days. Just my. 02 worth.
Mt.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone have any information on Renee in Northside?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=DoctorAl;2672971]Does anyone have any information on Renee in Northside?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Very nice and relaxing massage but strictly legit, as far as I could tell.
Simon.
[QUOTE=Iabps;2671895]Salem is open again. Seems they just went out for a while to get some remodeling done. Very nice inside now but same ladies inside. I didn't have time to stay but table showers 10 for 10 minutes was advertised. I'll try to go soon but keep us updated if you get a chance to stop in.[/QUOTE]Stopped by this afternoon and was greeted by two Asian ladies, one in her 20's and the other about 40. Quoted40 for hh and 60 for hour (also mentioned 4 hand without price). Told them I would return in a couple of hours.
Got back at 8:00 and paid $60 for full hour and asked for Deep Tissue, they said "strong", I said OK. Sure enough the older lady showed me to my room, as the younger one told me to tell her " stronger" if I needed. Might be a language barrier ahead.
It's been over 30 years since I've been to a massage parlor, and I have the Forum to thank for my return. As I've been reading, I hope I could take the "proper" attitude in and see what developed.
I got a pretty decent massage! Not exactly like an LMT I know that is a guru / God of manipulation (who charges 80/ hr plus a $20 tip. But he IS good).
This lady put some effort into it, front and back. Because of the posted signs that said No Sexual Conduct, I left my underwear on when I went face down. But the rub down on the back was so good and with a little teasing, that I discarded them on the flip.
Some teasing on front, then strictly rub down. She went the full hour, and since I was new and their might be a language barrier, I never made any overt moves.
After I dressed they were both at the front desk, I thanked them both, slipped my masseuse a $10 and told the younger girl I would be back, and I will, and will show a couple of Jacksons to my masseuse, before we start.
[QUOTE=Tnt368;2671369]I am not arguing or bragging.
Why would you tip anything for DIY? Going Rate? 40-60? It sounds like I visit as often as you and my usual tip is 20 and maybe 30 for something extra special. I have reasonable luck and they are always happy to see me again. There are a lot of variables that may play into tips but you guys are creating the situations of these girls demanding more for nothing.
Just my opinion.
TNT.[/QUOTE]I'll tip 40 on diy if the girl is nice and the massage was good. If the massage sucks, the girl has a rude attitude and gets impatient during diy, I only leave 20. Every time I've tipped only 20 on diy they look pissed off. I'm never a jerk or overly pushy. I'm always respectful and generally give the girl the benefit of the doubt.
I can JO for free. If they offer diy, I decline. Do they remember me? Hell yes they do. I'm that asshole that tips zero when they offer diy. The next time I go in, I leave happy and tip $20. I've heard about more than standard he but have never had it. This example hurts all our chances. If they are getting $30- $40 for nothing, then nothing is what you and those that follow this example will get.
[QUOTE=Elastic;2677221]I'll tip 40 on diy if the girl is nice and the massage was good. If the massage sucks, the girl has a rude attitude and gets impatient during diy, I only leave 20. Every time I've tipped only 20 on diy they look pissed off. I'm never a jerk or overly pushy. I'm always respectful and generally give the girl the benefit of the doubt.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elastic;2677221]I'll tip 40 on diy if the girl is nice and the massage was good. If the massage sucks, the girl has a rude attitude and gets impatient during diy, I only leave 20. Every time I've tipped only 20 on diy they look pissed off. I'm never a jerk or overly pushy. I'm always respectful and generally give the girl the benefit of the doubt.[/QUOTE]If you tip for diy like you would for h. E. They will never give happy endings. We as consumers or mongers have to set the market not them. I never go back to any place that doesn't, and I will explain to them whether they like it or not.
Slide.