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Forgive my ignorance: I've been out of the hobby for several years, but recently signed up at SA. Is it safe to ask, more or less, "how much?" and "what's included?" on the site itself? Do guys typically wait to ask those questions until the conversation has shifted to phone texting? Thanks, and I will post about future SA experiences.
[QUOTE=Rkol7;4001526]Forgive my ignorance: I've been out of the hobby for several years, but recently signed up at SA. Is it safe to ask, more or less, "how much?" and "what's included?" on the site itself? Do guys typically wait to ask those questions until the conversation has shifted to phone texting? Thanks, and I will post about future SA experiences.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't ask too much on the site as I'm sure they monitor for professional girls. I usually just mentioned up front that I'm interested in a ppm (pay per meet) arrangement. If they're interested in that, then it usually generates a phone #.
[QUOTE=Timexpired;4002184]I wouldn't ask too much on the site as I'm sure they monitor for professional girls. I usually just mentioned up front that I'm interested in a ppm (pay per meet) arrangement. If they're interested in that, then it usually generates a phone #.[/QUOTE]And also do not ever pay for a introductory meet (coffee, lunch etc). It seems to be pretty prevelant, which means somebody is falling for it. I always answer that I will treat them to whatever they would like to eat (pay the bill) but I'm not going to pay to talk, unless it's my shrink LOL.
Will be visiting around you of Penn. Any suggestions? PM me if you know of something please.
[QUOTE=Ixxon;4002746]Will be visiting around you of Penn. Any suggestions? PM me if you know of something please.[/QUOTE]Can get to Center City fast on MFL or Uber. You of P is slim pickings.
[QUOTE=LikeMFlat;3995885]It's not for everyone, you have to put in a little time. Although it doesn't have to be a ridiculous amount of time once you get the hang of it. I had something of a mentor on this site, who helped me navigate SA. He described it as the special forces of mongering. It's challenging but offers great rewards. A few quick tips if you want to try again:
You need to be proactive and message the girls you're interested in. I've had very few arrangements with girls who contacted me first. And yes, when you first sign up you will get lots of scammy messages from girls in Thailand and elsewhere in the world. One way to prevent all this is to keep your profile hidden from search. It's an option for premium members. If you do that, the only people who see your profile are ones you favorite or ones you message. The downside to this is that some girls do it as well. Of the very few girls who contacted me first, two were pretty amazing. But it's a way to be more selective and also more discreet, so I often keep my profile hidden. The scammers tend to gravitate towards new members, so it does get better over time.
I treat SA like any other dating site. If a girl replies to my initial message, I try to get her number within a few more messages back and forth. If I can't, I move on. She's probably either not serious or not interested. If a girl asks for money up front, or money for a platonic meet and greet, I say no thanks and move on.
You'll need photos if you're going for the college girls and not the pros on the site. Most 'real' girls aren't going to meet someone without knowing what they look like. You don't have to be a model, although being somewhat in shape and well-groomed definitely helps. I usually have a public photo with my face cropped or blurred. Then some private photos that do show my face. Just 2-3 photos is fine. Obviously, make sure they're photos you don't use anywhere else like on social media. Some of the girls know our tricks of using a reverse image search, and you don't want them finding your real name.
At this point I only message college students. It tends to weed out the drug addicts and the hardened pros. There are some pros on SA, who migrated after BP went down. Of course if that's what you want, there are plenty of them and they should be willing to get right to the point. I pretty much ignore the tags, they're meaningless. Some girls choose luxury lifestyle and then when I ask them their favorite restaurant for our first date, they say Applebees. So take everything they say with a grain of salt.
After getting her number, I try to get her to meet for coffee, lunch or drinks within a week. Again, if she won't meet up within a week, it's unlikely it'll ever happen. I'll move on, although in a few cases I have met up with girls after a few weeks or even a few months. They may have found another arrangement but when it doesn't work out or turns out to be short-term, she'll text again. When we meet up I treat it like a date. She's a normal woman or college student and, regardless of the reality, the girls on SA definitely don't see themselves as escorts. So you'll need to dress nicely, make good conversation, be funny and charming, just like on any other date. Then at the end if things go well, I usually mention an allowance. Depending on the girl I'll often offer 250-300 each time. I try not to speak explicitly but I mention that when we meet, we'll have dinner and then go back to my place (or a hotel). I've had lower allowances, but that was in a different part of the country. Here in Philly, I doubt you'll find a caucasian college girl who would be happy with less than 200.
The reason I start at 250 is because I know a LOT of guys on SA offer 200. It's something of a default lower-end offer. I only meet with girls I'm very interested in, so if I want to make sure it happens, I raise my offer just enough to make it sound like more.
When I was in the midwest, I saw one girl for 150 and after the first time, she said she'd be happy to meet for 80. I've also dated a few girls I met on SA for free, including a 25-year-old amateur model and a 20-year-old with daddy issues.
For a while I was on SA constantly, and I lost track of how many girls I met there. Almost all of them were legit college students, 18-24, who were intelligent and fun. In my previous city I had something of a mentor from this forum, he described SA as the special forces of mongering.
Right now I see a 21 year-old 5'10" college student who's signed with a modeling agency in NYC. She's funny and mature for her age. She gets 300 per meet, which usually involves dinner and often spending the night. And I'm seeing another student for free. We met and initially agreed on 300 per meet. She's beautiful and the sex was great, but her body type wasn't perfect for me, she's a tiny bit curvier than I like. I stopped seeing her, but she kept asking to see me so I told her I couldn't do the allowance anymore. She was fine with that so now we're meeting every few weeks for free.
I don't work for SA and I honestly hate the way it's run. But it can be a gold mine if you have the time to put in. Over the past few years, I haven't found any escorts who I'm remotely interested in, other than perhaps some high-end girls charging 4-500 or more for an hour. I'd rather get an entire evening or maybe even overnight with a cute, drug-free college girl for 2-300.
I haven't been active lately but I'd love to see the Philly sugar forum become active, so I'll post some intel there if I can find any girls who are still active.[/QUOTE]Great advice but it seems to apply mainly to single guys. Any words of experience for guys who can't meet in public and who just can't send photos? Does that make SA inappropriate for them?
[QUOTE=Merge1;4003503]Can get to Center City fast on MFL or Uber. You of P is slim pickings.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll have a car. Up from Redskin territory, but grew up going to Franklin Field to see Jurgensen and MacDonald. Good old days.
[QUOTE=Rkol7;4001526]Forgive my ignorance: I've been out of the hobby for several years, but recently signed up at SA. Is it safe to ask, more or less, "how much?" and "what's included?" on the site itself? Do guys typically wait to ask those questions until the conversation has shifted to phone texting? Thanks, and I will post about future SA experiences.[/QUOTE]I've had girls bring it up while messaging on SA and we discussed allowances without repercussions, but I've heard lately that they're cracking down on financial discussions on the site. The folks who run SA are probably concerned about FOSTA / SESTA. Having said that, I've never had any problems. I think it USUALLY only happens if a girl reports you. So if you're aggressive or insulting, she may report your profile.
If you're looking for a quick fuck, you can definitely find girls on SA for that, and in that case they'll probably be wiling to text almost immediately.
Personally, I try to not mention money until we meet for coffee or a drink. Sometimes a girl will bring it up, and we'll discuss it via text before the meet and greet, which is fine. I have no problem with escorts, I just usually can't find ones worth seeing. And I'm not delusional, any girl on SA who meets for cash is a prostitute. But the ones who will meet you BEFORE talking about money tend to be newer and less businesslike, which leads to a better experience. I try to find girls who haven't had arrangements before, or who have only had a few, because they're the most genuine and usually they're very friendly and fun.
Sorry if this isn't clear. The correct answer is maybe. You may get away with asking those questions, but if a girl is insulted and reports you, you may get deleted or banned.
I mention being generous in my profile and in my initial message to a girl. Most girls understand what that means. If a girl asks about an allowance, I usually say that I am looking for an allowance-based arrangement and that we can talk details via text or over coffee. They're likely trying to weed out the guys who are looking for freebies so I don't mind if they ask. If a girl presses for a dollar figure immediately before we even move to text, I usually block her and move on.
Likewise if she mentions getting paid for a platonic meet and greet, or if she mentions any kind of online payment before we actually meet, I block her and move on.
[QUOTE=Merge1;4003529]Great advice but it seems to apply mainly to single guys. Any words of experience for guys who can't meet in public and who just can't send photos? Does that make SA inappropriate for them?[/QUOTE]From what I hear, I'm somewhat in the minority on SA. Most of the guys are married. Obviously that means you'd have to either find a girl who can host (which is possible, but a little harder for the college-age girls) or get a hotel. And you'll need to be more discreet, obviously. Some SBs actually prefer married guys for various reasons.
I just want to give a collective thanks to all those who responded. SA seems to be good mixture between hobbying and normal dating. I've got several phone numbers now but haven't been able to meet anyone yet because my window of my opportunity is so small.
[QUOTE=Rkol7;4007043]I just want to give a collective thanks to all those who responded. SA seems to be good mixture between hobbying and normal dating. I've got several phone numbers now but haven't been able to meet anyone yet because my window of my opportunity is so small.[/QUOTE]I know how ya feel, it's tough when you're married! LOL.
That's why I bailed after a month. Got enough contacts to keep me busy for now.
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[QUOTE=LuvEmSmall;4009235]ISO a pregnant and lactating girl. I just love how wet and dull a pregnant pussy can be. And when you get her so hot, her tits start leaking.
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I saw her couples of times in Manhattan.
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