[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2695016]Most were looking for about $$ some were asking for $$ and we're not super hot and / or young.[/QUOTE]The second $$ was supposed to be 6 $ signs.
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[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2695016]Most were looking for about $$ some were asking for $$ and we're not super hot and / or young.[/QUOTE]The second $$ was supposed to be 6 $ signs.
[QUOTE=XiaoXing;2695493]One girl is like a decoy.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you mean. Could you explain that comment?
[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2695022]Lots of good information and links from Colo on SA, wish I had read them before I started playing. A forum for SA is a great idea, maybe HawaiianD can tell us how to get it started. I think he is a mod for a forum on here.[/QUOTE]As it seems like sugaring is getting more popular with the mongers / hobbyists in this area, it would be great if we could a thread started on the subject either here or in the Tampa forum. It would give us locals a place to post warnings about scammers and time wasters as well as sharing our collective experience and knowledge. As I'm not a senior yet, I'm not sure how one starts a new thread, but I'd be happy to participate if someone steps up.
Has anyone talked to admin about getting a SA forum for Tampa? The official thread for asking is now closed.
[QUOTE=OldMan;2699453]As it seems like sugaring is getting more popular with the mongers / hobbyists in this area, it would be great if we could a thread started on the subject either here or in the Tampa forum. It would give us locals a place to post warnings about scammers and time wasters as well as sharing our collective experience and knowledge. As I'm not a senior yet, I'm not sure how one starts a new thread, but I'd be happy to participate if someone steps up.
Has anyone talked to admin about getting a SA forum for Tampa? The official thread for asking is now closed.[/QUOTE]St Pete Sugarbabies thread already exists. It looks like it started as something else but recent posts are on this topic.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11057-Sugar-Babies[/URL]
Also, looks like you are alredy a senior member. Congrats.
[QUOTE=Coozie;2699460]St Pete Sugarbabies thread already exists. It looks like it started as something else but recent posts are on this topic.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11057-Sugar-Babies[/URL]
Also, looks like you are alredy a senior member. Congrats.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I guess that thread was easy to miss. No post for 18 months. That thread seems to be a catch all. Like putting BP, CL, EROS and others all together under HO's, just to confusing is maybe why it died. Maybe I'm wrong but it seemed like there was a lot of interest in SA. Maybe if it was just SA and a new thread in Tampa it would catch on and we could begin sharing info of those girls.
[QUOTE=OldMan;2699478]Thanks, I guess that thread was easy to miss. No post for 18 months. That thread seems to be a catch all. Like putting BP, CL, EROS and others all together under HO's, just to confusing is maybe why it died. Maybe I'm wrong but it seemed like there was a lot of interest in SA. Maybe if it was just SA and a new thread in Tampa it would catch on and we could begin sharing info of those girls.[/QUOTE]It had a strange start but the ho conversion thing ended when Woodslinger pointed out the stupidity of what they were trying to do. Everything since has been solid.
[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2695702]The second $$ was supposed to be 6 $ signs.[/QUOTE]I swear, GPS was invented on SA and moved to BP.
[URL]http://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewzeitlin/judge-slams-crackdown-on-backpagecom[/URL]#. JxmDMpP3 X.
A federal judge said the Cook County Sheriff violated the First Amendment by urging credit card networks to cut of the adult classifieds site.
A federal judge has ruled that efforts by the Cook County Sheriff to crack down on adult classifieds site [URL]Backpage.com[/URL] were unconstitutional, ordering the Sheriff to cease pressuring credit card companies to cut their links to the controversial site.
In a strongly worded opinion released on Monday, Judge Richard Posner of the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Sheriff Thomas Dart was prohibited from using his office to pressure service providers not to work with [URL]Backpage.com[/URL]. In November, the court issued an injunction against Dart.
That injunction was issued again Monday. Dart is also required to notify Visa and MasterCard as well as the Postal Service of the order.
Posner said that Dart's actions, which were part of a long campaign by the Sheriff to vigorously enforce prostitution laws — and go after Backpage specifically — were like "killing a person by cutting off his oxygen supply rather than by shooting him. ".
In July, Visa and Mastercard confirmed they had cut Backpage from their networks, days after Sheriff Dart sent open letters urging each company to "immediately cease and desist" from working with the site and others like it, which "we have objectively found to promote prostitution and facilitate online sex trafficking. ".
Backpage has not been convicted of any such crime, in Dart's jurisdiction or any other.
In a lawsuit filed over the summer, Backpage alleged Dart's letters were a prior restraint on free speech. While Backpage has been a leading destination for advertising escort services since Craigslist got rid of adult personals in 2010 (Craigslist was also pursued by Dart in 2009, unsuccessfully), the site also hosts many legal ads. Posner pointed to "fetishism, phone sex, performances by striptease artists" as content that was still legal on the site.
The decision was hailed by libertarian-leaning legal thinkers from the left and right. Glenn Greenwald wrote that the ruling was "crucial for protecting free speech rights generally" and "highlights how dangerous such extra-judicial pressure campaigns can be, and makes them much more difficult by clearly ruling them to be unconstitutional. ".
Greenwald said the case had echoes of late 2010, when companies including Amazon, Paypal and Bank of America stopped doing business with Wikileaks after the site's publication of leaked USA Diplomatic cables, amid pressure from politicians including Senator Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee.
Ilya Shapiro, a lawyer at the libertarian Cato Insitute who co-authored a brief supporting Backpage, said the opinion "shows that courts are aware of this and will not countenance this use of power unless there's something criminal he's actually going after. " If Sheriff Dart "sees actual prostitution being transacted through Backpage he can go after those particular targets," Shapiro told BuzzFeed News.
While the decision only has direct effect in the area covered by the Seventh Circuit, Shapiro said that Posner is a respected judge and his reasoning will likely have "persuasive authority" with other judges. "I think that this will nip this sort of behavior in the bud, it was pretty blatant and pretty blunt. ".
While Visa issued an affadavit saying it wasn't threatened by Dart, Posner pointed to an emails between Visa employees charactertizing Dart's messages as "the subtle messages they've been sending us that could easily be taken for blackmail. ".
Posner noted Dart's letters to Visa and Mastercard were sent in his capacity as sheriff and pointed to legal statues, including money-laundering laws, which Posner said were "intimating that the credit card companies could be prosecuted for processing payments. ".
The letters were very effective. Dart told BuzzFeed News in July he was "stunned at how quickly Visa and MasterCard moved to say they weren't going to be involved in that anymore, they were incredible corporate citizens. ".
When Visa cut off Backpage, it issued a statement saying that its rules "prohibit our network from being used for illegal activity. Visa has a long history of working with law enforcement to safeguard the integrity of the payment system. ".
After Dart sent the letter to Visa, a Dart staffer told the company's legal team that it had scheduled a press conference and that they "would need to know tonight if that is the case so that we can ensure the Sheriff's messaging celebrates Visa's change in direction as opposed to pointing out its ties to sex trafficking. ".
Posner read this exchange as evidence "Visa and MasterCard were victims of government coercion aimed at shutting up or shutting down Backpage's adult section.
"To say effectively 'you have a nice little website there shame if anything would happen to it,' we can't let public official get away with that," Shapiro said.
After Backpage made its adult ads free, the Sheriff's office told the press "we were ready for this and not concerned. It's unsustainable for them to maintain all of their lobbying, legal battles and all the money it takes for their server space without any revenue coming in. " This, Posner wrote, showed that the Sheriff's office was trying to "to cause irreparable injury to Backpage. ".
A Visa spokesperson said today that it had no comment on the ruling "and our position has not changed. " A MasterCard spokesperson said "there has not been a change in Backpage's status in accepting our cards as a result of this decision. " Backpage's attorneys did not respond to requests for comments.
The Cook County Sheriff's Office said in its statement: "While we are not surprised by this opinion, we are nonetheless disappointed and respectfully disagree with its conclusions. We look forward to proceeding with this litigation and to doing all we can to protect victims from the horrors of human trafficking. ".
The sheriff's office could try to take the case to the Supreme Court but it has not indicated its future plans. Dart has been a long-time very public opponent of prostitution and has gained a national profile for his large scale arrests of johns.
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I got a black girl in st Petersburg. Average size with nice curves. She pretty but note that she is not a spinner. She is in need of some extra money and my funds have dried up. The best part is that she gets into it big time but not GFE. Everything is covered for me. She will only see white guys so sorry no black men. She doesn't drive and may have to get a hotel or do in all. She asked me to get a few good men for her so I am throwing this out there for those who may be interested. You can discuss with her on pricing.
Not sure if this is an appropriate thing to post on here, but if this isn't the place there might not be one!
I'm was doing some surfing and stumbled on this site. It's apparently spurred by Orange is the New Blacks girls selling panties.
On the internet for commissary money. It's kind of a Facebook for mongers, LOL! The site's called PantyDeal, I haven't dropped a.
Cent on the site and it's still interesting! I'm guessing it might be more fun if you did?? Here's a link;.
[URL]http://pantydeal.com/[/URL]
Be safe, Snap.
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Posted in both TB and SP sections.
Had not been to the area in over twenty five years, we got in town late Jan., 21 stayed just over CCC in TB. First stop was Kim's spa in TB, they ask for membership #, "Ivy " cute younger Korean with nice attitude, hot sauna, nice TS, good massage, then on to 69. CBJ, Mish, $1. 8 , literally left with smile on my face.
Tourist stuff during the days, headed over to Atlantis in Largo Friday night, nice laid- back place, got a few dances then met a taller girl that promised I would leave happy, to the back for BBBJ $1. 6.
Won 1. 8 K at the casino the next day.
Sat. Thought I would check out Ocean massage in TB since it was close by, Crystal from NY gave a ok TS and massage then on to FS think it was $1. 6, probably would not return here.
Checked out a bunch of other clubs, stopped by Lipstixx, in TB place is a trip, the door was locked, I tried it again went inside, one girl dancing, got the prices, didn't stay long.
Drove over to mons venus, the first min. I was in the club a girl came running to the bounce complaining about a guy touching her in the "wrong place ". Still had fun here and 2001, small places.
Monday stopped by Ritz studio in TB, older lady (Nina) might have been worth the $1. 6 " full service pampering" they offer, left. Yoshiko spa was close, Sophia gave a nice TS and massage, she ask $. 8 for HJ, I countered with $ . 4 her attitude changed after this. Ended up paying. 6 since I forgot I left a. 2 on the table.
Tuesday was not sure where to try, ended up at the Pink Poney kinda early, 6-10 girls, half Cuban. " Jenny" a cute young Cuban girl came and sit with me grabbing my crotch asking about the private room, $2. 0 for twenty min. She said in broken English. Watched her and a few others dance, she came back over, I agreed to the private room, went to pay for the room, guy gave me a few free passes and told me "jenny" was drug and drama free.
Got a water, went to the room, she started with a few dances, her English got worst, ask if I wanted more, said it would be $3. 0 for FS, I countered with $1. 0 agreed on $2. 0.
Started with a nice long CBJ, CG, Then DS, she likes to put her hand around JR when hitting it DS, not cool. Still liked this place, the rooms are to much $ IMO.
Last day in town went back to 'old Reliable' Kim's, had my member # ready, hotttt sauna, TS, too 'pinchy' with the massage but a lot fun with "yume" 69. RCG, CG, DS she did not ask for money, I left $1. 6 on the desk when leaving. Introduced me to the other girl working.
Went to Oasis strip club in Clearwater a few times, like the place but had to wait over an hour for any girls to show up one night.
Will be back in a few months, thanks for all the reports.
Back in Ind. Now found a clean club with free cover, 3 dollar drinks & BBBJCIM for. 9 during the day, close to Chicago.
[QUOTE=Moneyshot;2777955]Posted in both TB and SP sections.
Had not been to the area in over twenty five years, we got in town late Jan., 21 stayed just over CCC in TB. First stop was Kim's spa in TB, they ask for membership #, "Ivy " cute younger Korean with nice attitude, hot sauna, nice TS, good massage, then on to 69. CBJ, Mish, $1. 8 , literally left with smile on my face.
Tourist stuff during the days, headed over to Atlantis in Largo Friday night, nice laid- back place, got a few dances then met a taller girl that promised I would leave happy, to the back for BBBJ $1. 6.
Won 1. 8 K at the casino the next day.
Sat. Thought I would check out Ocean massage in TB since it was close by, Crystal from NY gave a ok TS and massage then on to FS think it was $1. 6, probably would not return here.
Checked out a bunch of other clubs, stopped by Lipstixx, in TB place is a trip, the door was locked, I tried it again went inside, one girl dancing, got the prices, didn't stay long.
Drove over to mons venus, the first min. I was in the club a girl came running to the bounce complaining about a guy touching her in the "wrong place ". Still had fun here and 2001, small places.
Monday stopped by Ritz studio in TB, older lady (Nina) might have been worth the $1. 6 " full service pampering" they offer, left. Yoshiko spa was close, Sophia gave a nice TS and massage, she ask $. 8 for HJ, I countered with $ . 4 her attitude changed after this. Ended up paying. 6 since I forgot I left a. 2 on the table.
Tuesday was not sure where to try, ended up at the Pink Poney kinda early, 6-10 girls, half Cuban. " Jenny" a cute young Cuban girl came and sit with me grabbing my crotch asking about the private room, $2. 0 for twenty min. She said in broken English. Watched her and a few others dance, she came back over, I agreed to the private room, went to pay for the room, guy gave me a few free passes and told me "jenny" was drug and drama free.
Got a water, went to the room, she started with a few dances, her English got worst, ask if I wanted more, said it would be $3. 0 for FS, I countered with $1. 0 agreed on $2. 0.
Started with a nice long CBJ, CG, Then DS, she likes to put her hand around JR when hitting it DS, not cool. Still liked this place, the rooms are to much $ IMO.
Last day in town went back to 'old Reliable' Kim's, had my member # ready, hotttt sauna, TS, too 'pinchy' with the massage but a lot fun with "yume" 69. RCG, CG, DS she did not ask for money, I left $1. 6 on the desk when leaving. Introduced me to the other girl working.
Went to Oasis strip club in Clearwater a few times, like the place but had to wait over an hour for any girls to show up one night.
Will be back in a few months, thanks for all the reports.
Back in Ind. Now found a clean club with free cover, 3 dollar drinks & BBBJCIM for. 9 during the day, close to Chicago.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great visit. Stay safe.
I'm sure this has all been covered ad nauseoum before but I was surprised to learn this.
I've banged hookers all over the country and world, and honestly in the rare times I did BB a chick, or even from BBBJ, biggest concern other than herpes (which lets face it, most everyone has oral herpes since we all had cold sores on our mouths since 5 years old, probably from some nasty relative who gave a kiss hello) was just a case of the drip, which I've gotten from hookers in Mexico. Unless you're banging hookers bare back in Africa or Haiti, needles were never a concern for me, even in Los Angeles, the girls were fairly clean and drug use was not an issue that I was even aware of, not the pill needle kind anyways.
However since moving here, the needle use is unlike anything I've ever seen anywhere, so HIV or HEP see is a huge concern for me since pretty much all the BP and SW girls are needle users and pretty much most of them will do bareback everything. I know this because I have 2 test questions I ask all the girls, 1. Do you like to party? And then I found out what drugs they use. And 2 I always ask a girl if they will BB. That way I know what I'm getting into. The girls who just like party drugs like weed, Molly, Coke, etc I'll spend more time with and have bare backed them. Needle users I really try to avoid.
One girl I knew and banged before, and she even took the condom off me and stuck it in her bareback a year ago when I saw her, recently admitted to me she had Hep see (she's from Pasco, in and out and recently back in with uncle, names similar to nectar). But she said oh it's not easy to catch it from sex.
I've been tested several times since then as I do about every 3 months and I'm clean. I was surprised when I actually researched it that it is indeed not easy to transmit HEP see sexually and according to one study only 1 in 190,000 cases in it transmitted sexually.
I also recall reading that it was extremely difficult for a guy to get HIV from a girl. I'll research that a bit more again. Of course this is all assuming you both don't have open bloody sores all over your genatalia.
I'm not saying this makes it safe or safer to bang hookers bareback especially known needle users but I'm always so paranoid about putting my penis in a providers vagina or ass without a a condom I expect it to just fall off the next day. I know we all play the odds with this, just wanted to share this report since I think most of the girls probably have HEP see at the very least whether we want to admit it or not.
[URL]http://www.healthline.com/health/hepatitis-c-sexual-transmission[/URL]#Transmission2.
[QUOTE=DrPotato;2799678]I'm sure this has all been covered ad nauseoum before but I was surprised to learn this.
I've banged hookers all over the country and world, and honestly in the rare times I did BB a chick, or even from BBBJ, biggest concern other than herpes (which lets face it, most everyone has oral herpes since we all had cold sores on our mouths since 5 years old, probably from some nasty relative who gave a kiss hello) was just a case of the drip, which I've gotten from hookers in Mexico. Unless you're banging hookers bare back in Africa or Haiti, needles were never a concern for me, even in Los Angeles, the girls were fairly clean and drug use was not an issue that I was even aware of, not the pill needle kind anyways.
However since moving here, the needle use is unlike anything I've ever seen anywhere, so HIV or HEP see is a huge concern for me since pretty much all the BP and SW girls are needle users and pretty much most of them will do bareback everything. I know this because I have 2 test questions I ask all the girls, 1. Do you like to party? And then I found out what drugs they use. And 2 I always ask a girl if they will BB. That way I know what I'm getting into. The girls who just like party drugs like weed, Molly, Coke, etc I'll spend more time with and have bare backed them. Needle users I really try to avoid.
One girl I knew and banged before, and she even took the condom off me and stuck it in her bareback a year ago when I saw her, recently admitted to me she had Hep see (she's from Pasco, in and out and recently back in with uncle, names similar to nectar). But she said oh it's not easy to catch it from sex.
I've been tested several times since then as I do about every 3 months and I'm clean. I was surprised when I actually researched it that it is indeed not easy to transmit HEP see sexually and according to one study only 1 in 190,000 cases in it transmitted sexually.
I also recall reading that it was extremely difficult for a guy to get HIV from a girl. I'll research that a bit more again. Of course this is all assuming you both don't have open bloody sores all over your genatalia.
I'm not saying this makes it safe or safer to bang hookers bareback especially known needle users but I'm always so paranoid about putting my penis in a providers vagina or ass without a a condom I expect it to just fall off the next day. I know we all play the odds with this, just wanted to share this report since I think most of the girls probably have HEP see at the very least whether we want to admit it or not.
[URL]http://www.healthline.com/health/hepatitis-c-sexual-transmission[/URL]#Transmission2.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dr. Potato for the info. I take it you're not a real doctor, but just play one on USASG, LOL. But it's great that you did some research (maybe you are a doctor!) I have had concerns of my own, dating back to the '80's when I barebacked a Mons dancer (in the club no less!) And some years later, after posting my adventure on a blog, got responses that I must have been crazy, I may be dead soon, etc. I know the girl was a crack smoker, but not sure about needles. I did have several tests with good results over the years since then--it was almost 30 years ago it happened. And then later, I was at Ybor Strip getting a BBBJ in the back room from a gorgeous blonde named Candy--she was their website cover girl for years. After some fine sucking, she turned around and offered her pussy to me doggy style and said "you know what I want!" My cock was less than an inch away when I remembered a post from a guy named Bart (anyone remember him and his Bartmobile?) who freaked after doing bareback in the same club. I backed off, and a few weeks later found out this girl had AIDS! She died shortly after that and I breathed a huge sigh of relief! Recently, in a Pasco club I was daty-ing a girl in the back and straightened up to find Mr. Happy right at the honey hole, and, yes, he did take a short trip inside, but I quickly pulled out. I admit that bb is an attraction for me, as I do not like condoms, but I try to keep it under control. This article you posted will give me something to think about.