I agree, keep everything hidden
[QUOTE=TenIsEnough;2539043]Never ever for any reason no matter what never never never give anything up front before the job is finished. Not a dollar, not even a cigarette (keep those hidden), or you will likely lose it. If you compromise you will certainly lose the control posture and it can quickly go to shit from there. Better to be an asshole like me. You may have heard: Some chicks like that.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that it is wise to be an asshole sometimes or at least be on guard at all times. Even good providers will capitalize on an opportunity to get additional money. After receiving some good service from a provider she asked me to give her a ride to the store to get some cigarettes. I said sure after such good service but when we got to the store she said she did not have I'd could I go in and pick up the smokes. I know now that was a rookie move because I made the purchase and went on my way thinking it was a good day. A few days later I look in my console for a ring I got when I was working at a D2 University and they won the football national championship. It is gone forever, keep everything hidden.
Keep it safe.
When you're right you're right
[QUOTE=CantB1;2540687]All man you having all kinds of trouble with the ladies. Jen2 is a nice girl but this ain't the first time I heard of her taking cash that was left up for grabs. I say it that way because I'm not sure of she can pass up the opportunity to take money. It's like not going for seconds at a buffet. Always keep your eyes on a SW. And that never give them time to search through your ride. Gas up before or after the scoop. Even after your experience I would still scoop her. And I'm almost sure you would too. Give it some time.[/QUOTE]Yeh it was my fault. Can't stay mad at that set of attributes and skills, dammit! Just got to be smarter.
JTM, I absolutely agree about not paying upfront, however
[QUOTE=JaxTantricMan;2576517]Thanks ST for sharing your story.
The moral of this and many other similar stories, NEVER PAY UPFRONT, NEVER!
I don't give a rats ass what they say, demand or threaten to do or not do.
If they don't like my rules on not EVER paying upfront, I walk. Period, end of story.[/QUOTE]
I guess my question is, are you guys saying keep the money in your pocket from start to finish then give it to her afterwards? The reason I ask this question is because, as you are aware, there are characters out there who will take advantage of this type of thing. Get the s-x then make an excuse why they will not be paying (knowing all along they don't have the money anyhow).
That said, I don't blame a girl for not agreeing to this. What I think would be fair is showing her that you do have the donation then telling her you'd like to place it out of the way in a neutral location in the room- like a table that's not immediately close to either of you. Then tell her when the session is over, she can get up to get the donation first. Even though the guy can still get up and get it before her, at least she knows it's there. Anyway, I just think both parties should reasonably agree to something that won't hurt them in this transaction. If she disagrees to this, WALK! You are, however, correct, NEVER pay upfront and allow them to tuck your donation away! Once they tuck it away, then comes the attitudes! I will tell you one problem with this whole thing; in one sense, the lady has the ups on us. How? As you are aware, a lot of these girls have nothing to lose (but we have a lot to lose; well, some of us). If we do try to take our donation back, all they have to do is cry rape and it's a wrap! Or call their pimp like someone did on me when she tried to cut back on the services she was to offer. That's why I say, before handing over donation, I like to ask them if they are agreeable to my terms of placing donation in neutral location and if not, I have option to leave- with donation in hand, of course!
Good questions and analysis
[QUOTE=YoungRestless;2579809]I guess my question is, are you guys saying keep the money in your pocket from start to finish then give it to her afterwards? The reason I ask this question is because, as you are aware, there are characters out there who will take advantage of this type of thing. Get the s-x then make an excuse why they will not be paying (knowing all along they don't have the money anyhow).
That said, I don't blame a girl for not agreeing to this. What I think would be fair is showing her that you do have the donation then telling her you'd like to place it out of the way in a neutral location in the room- like a table that's not immediately close to either of you. Then tell her when the session is over, she can get up to get the donation first. Even though the guy can still get up and get it before her, at least she knows it's there. Anyway, I just think both parties should reasonably agree to something that won't hurt them in this transaction. If she disagrees to this, WALK! You are, however, correct, NEVER pay upfront and allow them to tuck your donation away! Once they tuck it away, then comes the attitudes! I will tell you one problem with this whole thing; in one sense, the lady has the ups on us. How? As you are aware, a lot of these girls have nothing to lose (but we have a lot to lose; well, some of us). If we do try to take our donation back, all they have to do is cry rape and it's a wrap! Or call their pimp like someone did on me when she tried to cut back on the services she was to offer. That's why I say, before handing over donation, I like to ask them if they are agreeable to my terms of placing donation in neutral location and if not, I have option to leave- with donation in hand, of course![/QUOTE]I never pay upfront, ever. I have sometimes showed a new girl I have the funds but have never handed it over and yes, I am prepared to and have walked, without incident. For my ATF's, they know I'm good for it and therefore it's not an issue. And for my UTR MILF's, they're free!!
I understand some girls do get ripped off by those who come to see them for time and companionship only and while I sympathize with the stellar providers, whether or not they have ever gotten ripped off before is not my concern, so I'm not paying for somebody else's issues, behavior and problems.
First and foremost is personal safety, fiscal and physical.
Agency list LE capture. Could it happen on USASG?
I am trying to catch up on old posts in multiple threads so as to educate myself and avoid the newbie traps and stupid questions about already previewed providers.
Anyhow, I am reading how mongers who sign up with escort agencies run the risk of having their info made public when LE takes down an agency and reports the info to the various puritan / hypocrite shame walls that modern America pelts it's fornicators on.
If an agency's member info can be made public, can member info on USASG be publicly displayed the same way?
[blue]For all of you guys wondering about this stop and think. What info do you give us? A user name and an email address, nothing more. Anybody can be hacked and that includes us. We protect you guys by not collecting anything.
Who gives a shit if somebody releases that the User Iluvpussy has an email iluvpussy at gmail.
If you are using your real email here then you're as stupid as guys who are too cheap to buy a burner phone.
It should be one you check, but not one that has your real name.
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Any members here been stung?
Without giving ANY specifics, names or dates, has any member here suffered a ride downtown? What did you do wrong, and how could you have avoided it?
FWIW. I have read a LOT of info on the various threads here, and see a lot of good, common sense advice, but I want to know how the application of given specific advice helped anyone squeeze out of the noose. I am truly terrified about suffering a ride.
I have read a few lucky escape stories so far, but I know there is more wisdom out there to share.