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[QUOTE=Hitman13;4914727]Can anyone give more details about their experience with this provider. Thinking about taking the plunge.[/QUOTE]I've always wanted to see Alex but haven't pulled the trigger yet, waiting on reviews over here, anyone got reviews?
[QUOTE=Emmjay22;4917813]I've always wanted to see Alex but haven't pulled the trigger yet, waiting on reviews over here, anyone got reviews?[/QUOTE]I met with Alex about a year ago. It was pretty damn fun. She's pretty open minded. Got everything I wanted. BBBJ, easy BBFS with CIP. Not sure if she looks the same but when I saw her she didn't look too bad at all. Was a little thicker but she had a nice body. I was fond of her ass and legs. Again, its been a while since I saw her so I don't know if she looks the same or not. I think I still have video of our encounter somewhere. I'll share if I find it. Also, I think donation was 150 at the time, but don't remember exactly what it was.
I was seeing this young lady several years ago. Went by Kimmy. Just the random ad on CL that I replied to that came up a winner. Tall Latina, thick but not fat, great BBBJ, LFK, smoked the herb like it was going out of style. But she was also pleasant to talk to and had a gorgeous smile.
We met up several times, including a few overnights at local motels.
Sadly, we drifted apart with new phones and her ambitions elsewhere. But would love to re-connect with her and see what's new with her.
She apparently also had an account on Humaniplex that's now been deleted. So, if you had ever communicated with "AngeronaReborn" and now know her whereabouts, I'd appreciate a word with you.
The pics are not very clear and the glam shot is likely pretty dated. She advertises as a body rub gal but I saw one report that she does more. Anyone ever partake?
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I'd seen her ad for quite some time so I decided to TOFTT but not before I did some RnR with a few members of the forums. I called up her number and she told me that she'd send me info in a text after we hung up. She did, lead me to a motel in North Hills, right next to the big laundromat on Sepulveda. She only speaks Spanish which was sort of a struggle for me but I made it work.
Took an uber up there and walked called her before walking into the parking lot. She asked me what car I was in and I told her that I didn't drive there. At this point, I was standing in the parking lot (walked past the office and clearly the guy working there knows what's going on because he saw me and didn't even move an inch from where he was watching TV in the small office) and she said she still couldn't see me. I was wearing bright green shorts and clearly was lost, but she claimed she still couldn't see me. So she begins questioning me if I'm a cop to which I keep saying no. So, she finally gives me the room number, on the second floor of this place and I arrive at her door.
Curtains are drawn and she's keeping the place pretty dark so that you don't see her fully. Again, she asks me if I'm a cop and I tell her of course not. I take out the ben franklin for the half and she tells me to get comfortable and lay on the bed. At this point, she's still dressed and I can't see shit. So I ask her to open the curtains a bit or turn a lamp on. There's a back window, so she pulls that open. The photos are definitely her but they're taken in a way to where you can't really see how she actually looks. Face is okay, definitely a middle aged latina who looks like she's had a few kids. She was friendly enough and asked me about where I worked and what part of the valley I was living in. Funny enough, she told me she was looking for a new place and wanted to know if where I was at was looking for tenants. LOL.
Anyway. I'm on the bed and she asks me again if I'm a cop, holy shit. I ask her what I need to do to prove I'm not and she whips out her tits. I fondle them for a bit. Not the greatest but not the worst. She slips on a blanket and begins working my member with her mouth to get me going. I was already pretty hard just from getting naked in front of her, so she pulls off her shorts and asks me what I want to do. I start is mish, then we switch to doggy. I was pumping away and she starts telling me to focus. WTF? The whole time she is wearing her top, I try taking it off of her but she pulls it back down, her stomach definitely has the signs of a few children.
Finally, I switch to jockey because I'm getting close. I'm pumping away when I feel a snap. The cover broke, so I pulled out like a crooked candidate realizing he's going to lose an election and cum all over her thighs. It had been a while and she definitely wasn't happy that I drenched her legs in cum. She turns on a light and we're both inspecting to make sure nothing got in her v, which appears that nothing did. I get dressed and she tells me to come back again soon and that sometimes, she has a friend with her.
Needless to say, I won't be going back. The whole thing was weird with her asking if I was a cop and it wasn't quite a bait and switch but beware that those photos of her are from a certain angle. Went and got tested the next day because of the faulty cover and was happy to see that I was clean. Be safe out there gents!
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[QUOTE=RockNRoll72;4961823][URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/WomenSeekMen/bp/9705601.html[/URL]
Saw Gabi. Safe to say I won't see her again....[/QUOTE]Damn, that was an exceptionally written review. Good stuff, man!
I went ahead and saw Alex a while back. First visit she just flaked. Second visit I was able to see her. After a considerable wait. If you guys think those pics of her are anything close to recent, I have a bridge I would like to sell you. She is overweight and looks considerably more than the 45 she advertises. She was mechanical and a clock-watcher. In my humble opinion, not worth the trip.
[QUOTE=RockNRoll72;4961823][URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/WomenSeekMen/bp/9705601.html[/URL]
I'd seen her ad for quite some time so I decided to TOFTT but not before I did some RnR with a few members of the forums. I called up her number and she told me that she'd send me info in a text after we hung up. She did, lead me to a motel in North Hills, right next to the big laundromat on Sepulveda. She only speaks Spanish which was sort of a struggle for me but I made it work.
Took an uber up there and walked called her before walking into the parking lot. She asked me what car I was in and I told her that I didn't drive there. At this point, I was standing in the parking lot (walked past the office and clearly the guy working there knows what's going on because he saw me and didn't even move an inch from where he was watching TV in the small office) and she said she still couldn't see me. I was wearing bright green shorts and clearly was lost, but she claimed she still couldn't see me. So she begins questioning me if I'm a cop to which I keep saying no. So, she finally gives me the room number, on the second floor of this place and I arrive at her door.[/QUOTE]Definitely there with you, I saw her when she was called Linda in the same spot you mentioned, definitely as you described but for me she got naked actually and she didn't ask me if I'm a cop not even a single time LOL, but she freaked me the fuck out after I came she kept riding hard as I'm coming out the cover got stuck inside her and I slipped one time inside her because of her grinding so I just pushed off like stop I told you I'm done!! I went immediately the very next day and came back clean. Fuck that since then never been back there.
[QUOTE=Emmjay22;4967769]Definitely there with you, I saw her when she was called Linda in the same spot you mentioned, definitely as you described but for me she got naked actually and she didn't ask me if I'm a cop not even a single time LOL, but she freaked me the fuck out after I came she kept riding hard as I'm coming out the cover got stuck inside her and I slipped one time inside her because of her grinding so I just pushed off like stop I told you I'm done!! I went immediately the very next day and came back clean. Fuck that since then never been back there.[/QUOTE]Whoa! That's crazy. Safe to say I won't repeat. Though I did find a pretty hot BBW today in Sherman Oaks. Safe to say I'll be going to her and my usual girl for the foreseeable future.
[QUOTE=RockNRoll72;4968197]Whoa! That's crazy. Safe to say I won't repeat. Though I did find a pretty hot BBW today in Sherman Oaks. Safe to say I'll be going to her and my usual girl for the foreseeable future[/QUOTE]Mind sharing or pming me some info? Been looking for a nice bbw around sfv! Thanks!
Any intel on this hx 1 BuxomBeauti, bbfscip? Bbj? Clock watcher or not? Any reviews here?
Seeing a lot of Asian ads on bedpage & harlothub for SFV, obviously the pics might be fake but anyone knows if these ads are real or scam / cop?
For example:
[URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/Escorts/van-nuys-northridge-van-nuys/9702398.html[/URL]
[URL]https://harlothub.com/united-states/california/san-fernando-valley/female-escorts/747-206-3988-2602880.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=BoskHomes;4969849]Seeing a lot of Asian ads on bedpage & harlothub for SFV, obviously the pics might be fake but anyone knows if these ads are real or scam / cop?
For example:
[URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/Escorts/van-nuys-northridge-van-nuys/9702398.html[/URL]
[URL]https://harlothub.com/united-states/california/san-fernando-valley/female-escorts/747-206-3988-2602880.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Not sure about these ones but wouldn't be surprised if they are legit. These have been popping up a lot recently in Reseda. If I were you I would check out the one in the first link. If you do, try to come back with some Intel, if you would be so kind.
Got in touch with her yesterday. $800 for hr and $500 for hhr. Anyone want to throw some bills my way so I can report back.
If any of you fellas see her, give us all the details!
RnR.
[QUOTE=RockNRoll72;4972905]Got in touch with her yesterday. $800 for hr and $500 for hhr. Anyone want to throw some bills my way so I can report back.
If any of you fellas see her, give us all the details!
RnR.[/QUOTE]I saw her a year or two ago when she was in LA. She is really nice but very business like. BBBJ was okay but everything else is covered. I think I did the hour but she was trying to get me out way before that. Body is incredible but not worth it in my opinion.
Anyone had luck / intel on this place?
[URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/Escorts/san-fernando-valley-818-794-9991-36dd-pretty-korean-model-nuru-middot-bbbj-amazing-vip-service-round-and-soft-breast/9699677.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Dreven71;4975429]Anyone had luck / intel on this place?
[URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/Escorts/san-fernando-valley-818-794-9991-36dd-pretty-korean-model-nuru-middot-bbbj-amazing-vip-service-round-and-soft-breast/9699677.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Not to be "that guy", but I get a strong trafficking vibe off that ad.
Hit up Rosa in Van Nuys also goes by Bella on them and Sara on twitter. Asked if she did BBBJ, she said yes. I'd already seen here rates posted so I didn't ask, my mistake. Made the appointment and headed over.
When I got there she quoted 130 for quickie and 160 for half. Higher than what I had seen posted. Told her just the blow job and she acted like she didn't understand and said quickie or half. So I gave here the 130 for the quickie. After getting naked and on the bed she garbed a condom and I said no just a BBBJ, to which she said $1000. For anything bare. Needles to say I had a lame CBJ, her pussy was tatted, fat, wet and loose, but I was irritated so just finished quickly and left. She on list crawler 7162.
[QUOTE=Heyou66;4982620]Hit up Rosa in Van Nuys also goes by Bella on them and Sara on twitter. Asked if she did BBBJ, she said yes. I'd already seen here rates posted so I didn't ask, my mistake. Made the appointment and headed over.
When I got there she quoted 130 for quickie and 160 for half. Higher than what I had seen posted. Told her just the blow job and she acted like she didn't understand and said quickie or half. So I gave here the 130 for the quickie. After getting naked and on the bed she garbed a condom and I said no just a BBBJ, to which she said $1000. For anything bare. Needles to say I had a lame CBJ, her pussy was tatted, fat, wet and loose, but I was irritated so just finished quickly and left. She on list crawler 7162.[/QUOTE]The second they start balking over price, it's time to pocket the cash, turn around, and walk away.
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Saw Bella in Sherman Oaks by Ventura & Sepulveda. Been seeing her ad for a while so decided to TOFTT. Her photos are definitely her BUT they are definitly old. She's a brazilian BBW, exactly my type. Great ass and rack. Wore a mask the whole time and made me wear one too. Everything was covered and had a good time. Hoping to see her again at some point. She said she was going to have surgery, so was going to take time off and would resume at some point in December. Her ad was still being posted this weekend, so if. You're going to do it, do it now!
RnR.
[QUOTE=BoskHomes;4969849]Seeing a lot of Asian ads on bedpage & harlothub for SFV, obviously the pics might be fake but anyone knows if these ads are real or scam / cop?
For example:
[URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/Escorts/van-nuys-northridge-van-nuys/9702398.html[/URL]
[URL]https://harlothub.com/united-states/california/san-fernando-valley/female-escorts/747-206-3988-2602880.html[/URL][/QUOTE]The first one is legit. I visited last week. Typical Chinese trick pad with rotating girls. I will say this one had much more attractive girls than these usually do. The girl I had was early 20's, skinny, nice tits, and smiled a lot. I saw two other girls on the way out and they were cute early 20's too.
140 hh + 20 for BBBJ. She quoted 40 extra but I talked her down to 20.
Oh and if you text them, they're going to give you a fake address. When you pull up and tell them you've arrived, they'll send the real one half a block away.
[QUOTE=ShinichiOta;4993483]The first one is legit. I visited last week. Typical Chinese trick pad with rotating girls. I will say this one had much more attractive girls than these usually do. The girl I had was early 20's, skinny, nice tits, and smiled a lot. I saw two other girls on the way out and they were cute early 20's too.
140 hh + 20 for BBBJ. She quoted 40 extra but I talked her down to 20.
Oh and if you text them, they're going to give you a fake address. When you pull up and tell them you've arrived, they'll send the real one half a block away.[/QUOTE]I went to (949) 617- number in one of those ads last weekend. They texted me an address to go to and asked me to text when I got there for the actual address. It was the same address. Maybe she messed up. Face was a 6, but body was an 8. Nice C's that looked natural, but I could then feel the implants. Not being outrageous they still felt nice. Ad said BBBJ and CIM or COF, but when I asked for BBBJ she looked horrified and said no like how dare I ask. $1. 4 for half h, $1. 6 for full h, and $2. 0 for full h with 2 pops. Having been a while I went with 2 pops. She had no energy and no enthusiasm. When she was performing, I had her stop as I was getting close. She looked at me like she didn't know what I was meaning (yeah right) and more vigorously worked him. Nice try. She wouldn't get on top saying I was too big. I'm thick, but come on, it shouldn't be a problem with all they take. I asked to finish Russian, and she obliged, but build a wall of paper towels at her neck that it took a lot of the visual appeal away. I would repeat, but with a different person though.
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I was looking for an older milfy type and saw her ad. Hit her up and met at a motel in North Hills. Rates were 170 hhr /220 hr. Her ad says she's 46, but she's definitely around 55. Got to the room and it smelled like pot and cigs. She says the previous trick smoked her out. She has me go wash up and when I come back she starts complaining about her life and such. I could tell this was not going to go well. Finally after getting past her tribulations, she has me sit while she gets on her knees. She pulls out some fruity oral sex gel and pours it on my member. Ok, let's play along. It just wasn't working. I figured she would be older, but not this old. She's like that rocker chick in high school back in the 80's who just didn't make it too far. I'm not even erect and she says time's up. At this point, I just want to gtfo so goodbye Amber! Not recommended.
Didn't see much talk about this group elsewhere, it makes sense why now. Chinese group out of a house in Van Nuys. Nice attractive girl, OK experience. Their menu is $. 40 hh $. 60 hr, $$. 60 "intimate" hr, duos are $$. 80 hhr, $$ 20 hr. I did the "intimate" hr but based on the intimacy level on offer I can't imagine it was worth the up charge. Based on the k-agency reports I've read, seems substandard for the price, but I walked away happy anyway.
HOWEVER, my main motivation was getting a network rating on HX, which they did after a quick PM. And there was no screening process to speak of -- they responded right away and told me where to go. So for any fellow newbies out there, might be worth it.
[QUOTE=Eponymously;5001204]Didn't see much talk about this group elsewhere, it makes sense why now. Chinese group out of a house in Van Nuys. Nice attractive girl, OK experience. Their menu is $. 40 hh $. 60 hr, $$. 60 "intimate" hr, duos are $$. 80 hhr, $$ 20 hr. I did the "intimate" hr but based on the intimacy level on offer I can't imagine it was worth the up charge. Based on the k-agency reports I've read, seems substandard for the price, but I walked away happy anyway.
HOWEVER, my main motivation was getting a network rating on HX, which they did after a quick PM. And there was no screening process to speak of -- they responded right away and told me where to go. So for any fellow newbies out there, might be worth it.[/QUOTE]The Chinese houses are really hit-and-miss. I've had some pretty awful experiences (had a gal steal my booking, pretending to be the one I had arranged to meet), while others report having the time of their life.
Contacted (818) 853-6321, snap chat juic_yjuicy on lostcrawler. Wanted payment in ebay gift cards. Had me drive to an address in san fernando and when I got there wanted pics of the cards. I sent them and then she wanted pics of the scratched codes. Nope. I suspected as much and should have known. Guess I'm ebay shopping. The ad has been pulled.
I've gone to 3 different agencies (I assume they're different because they had different ads with different set ups) on hart, welby, and platt. They all said BBBJ and listed 1. 4 for the half hour. 1 said no BBBJ when I was in the session and the other 2 said 2. For half hour with BBBJ.
Also the ads all say guan services offered for extra. (that's why I thought BBBJ would be included in the 140 since it didn't say for extra like the guan services) I asked the last girl what guan meant and she had no idea. Can any of you enlighten me?
[QUOTE=Blake4;5019632]I've gone to 3 different agencies (I assume they're different because they had different ads with different set ups) on hart, welby, and platt. They all said BBBJ and listed 1. 4 for the half hour. 1 said no BBBJ when I was in the session and the other 2 said 2. For half hour with BBBJ.
Also the ads all say guan services offered for extra. (that's why I thought BBBJ would be included in the 140 since it didn't say for extra like the guan services) I asked the last girl what guan meant and she had no idea. Can any of you enlighten me?[/QUOTE]Guan service is BBBJ / BBFS. Ask for it in the text exchange. My experience is that the Guan level service providers are mostly older gals.
[URL]http://www.eroticmonkey.ch/diana-escort-san-fernando-valley-864104[/URL]#erotic.
Anyone seen di before?
[QUOTE=Eponymously;5001204]Didn't see much talk about this group elsewhere, it makes sense why now. Chinese group out of a house in Van Nuys. Nice attractive girl, OK experience. Their menu is $. 40 hh $. 60 hr, $$. 60 "intimate" hr, duos are $$. 80 hhr, $$ 20 hr. I did the "intimate" hr but based on the intimacy level on offer I can't imagine it was worth the up charge. Based on the k-agency reports I've read, seems substandard for the price, but I walked away happy anyway.
HOWEVER, my main motivation was getting a network rating on HX, which they did after a quick PM. And there was no screening process to speak of -- they responded right away and told me where to go. So for any fellow newbies out there, might be worth it.[/QUOTE]Care share sig on hx for the newbie Chinese house?
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I'm interested in seeing this one and maybe inseminating her, wondering if any of you have got any reviews? She's very prompted with the responses so that's good. I'm curious if its real though.
[QUOTE=Megawil;5031005]Care share sig on hx for the newbie Chinese house?[/QUOTE]Sure, SugarAsianLA (it was in the title but had spaces between the words).
[QUOTE=Eponymously;5032412]Sure, SugarAsianLA (it was in the title but had spaces between the words[/QUOTE]SugarAsians also advertises on Adultsearch.
Curious if anyone has seen these girls? You might get an idea of my taste from these profiles. There are several other girls on PD in the valley but these to me are hot! BUT. I hate to waste money. And of course want to be safe. I'd love to know if anyone else has experience with them.
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Thousand-Oaks/Whitegurrl03[/URL]
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/RoseAngelina[/URL]
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Kenlani[/URL]
[QUOTE=BoulderBoy;5035636]Curious if anyone has seen these girls? You might get an idea of my taste from these profiles. There are several other girls on PD in the valley but these to me are hot! BUT. I hate to waste money. And of course want to be safe. I'd love to know if anyone else has experience with them.
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Thousand-Oaks/Whitegurrl03[/URL]
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/RoseAngelina[/URL]
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Kenlani[/URL][/QUOTE]Sent ya a pm.
[QUOTE=BoulderBoy;5035636]Curious if anyone has seen these girls? You might get an idea of my taste from these profiles. There are several other girls on PD in the valley but these to me are hot! BUT. I hate to waste money. And of course want to be safe. I'd love to know if anyone else has experience with them.
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Thousand-Oaks/Whitegurrl03[/URL]
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/RoseAngelina[/URL]
[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Kenlani[/URL][/QUOTE]Please let me know if you pull the trigger on Rose! Been looking at her for a little bit as well!
[QUOTE=RockNRoll72;4961823[URL]https://sanfernandovalley.bedpage.com/WomenSeekMen/bp/9705601.html[/URL]
I'd seen her ad for quite some time so I decided to TOFTT but not before I did some RnR with a few members of the forums. I called up her number and she told me that she'd send me info in a text after we hung up. She did, lead me to a motel in North Hills, right next to the big laundromat on Sepulveda. She only speaks Spanish which was sort of a struggle for me but I made it work.Took an uber up there and walked called her before walking into the parking lot. She asked me what car I was in and I told her that I didn't drive there. At this point, I was standing in the parking lot (walked past the office and clearly the guy working there knows what's going on because he saw me and didn't even move an inch from where he was watching TV in the small office) and she said she still couldn't see me. I was wearing bright green shorts and clearly was lost, but she claimed she still couldn't see me. So she begins questioning me if I'm a cop to which I keep saying no. So, she finally gives me the room number, on the second floor othis place and I arrive at her door.Curtains are drawn and she's keeping the place pretty dark so that you don't see her fully. Again, she asks me if I'm a cop and I tell her of course not. I take out the ben franklin for the half and she tells me to get comfortable and lay on the bed. At this point, she's still dressed and I can't see shit. So I ask her to open the curtains a bit or turn a lamp on. There's a back window, so she pulls that open. The photos are definitely her but they're taken in a way to where you can't really see how she actually looks. Face is okay, definitely a middle aged latina who looks like she's had a few kids. She was friendly enough and asked me about where I worked and what part of the valley I was living in. Funny enough, she told me she was looking for a new place and wanted to know if where I was at was looking for tenants. LOL.Anyway. I'm on the bed and she asks me again if I'm a cop, holy shit. I ask her what I need to do to prove I'm not and she whips out her tits. I fondle them for a bit. Not the greatest but not the worst. She slips on a blanket and begins working my member with her mouth to get me going.[/QUOTE]I saw this provider recently. I had all the annoying problems you had with getting the room number out of her cause she's paranoid. Called when I got there and made her open the door and step out so I could see her and just walk up to the room. Once inside It was a bit dim but I could see clearly. She was a middle aged latina who was on the heavier side. Face wasn't much and she didn't speak English. But I since I was already there and super horny I decided to have some fun with this fat mom. I spent about fifteen minutes or so just on foreplay and playing with her fat ass and pussy. Took my time undressing her and feeling that fat ass and B size tits. She kept motioning for us to being but I don't like being rushed so I took my time and had some fun with her body. Made her such my dick and slapped my D all over face and tits for an additional ten minutes. I tried fingerings her ass but she wasn't into so I just teased her winker. Then I spent the last 15 ish ramming that pussy in every position. Butted in the cover and gtfo. Everything was covered always, I seriously don't do bare EVER.
[URL]https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sanfernandovalley/55647227/[/UR]
Kinda thinking of hitting this one any of you guys hit it yet? Any details would be great.
[QUOTE=ForgottenToast;5042772]I saw this provider recently. I had all the annoying problems you had with getting the room number out of her cause she's paranoid. Called when I got there and made her open the door and step out so I could see her and just walk up to the room. Once inside It was a bit dim but I could see clearly. She was a middle aged latina who was on the heavier side. Face wasn't much and she didn't speak English. But I since I was already there and super horny I decided to have some fun with this fat mom. I spent about fifteen minutes or so just on foreplay and playing with her fat ass and pussy. Took my time undressing her and feeling that fat ass and B size tits. She kept motioning for us to being but I don't like being rushed so I took my time and had some fun with her body. Made her such my dick and slapped my D all over face and tits for an additional ten minutes. I tried fingerings her ass but she wasn't into so I just teased her winker. Then I spent the last 15 ish ramming that pussy in every position. Butted in the cover and gtfo. Everything was covered always, I seriously don't do bare EVER.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had an overall better experience. Mine was weird to say the least.