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The police are uneducated ignorant scumbags! They are the guys that were bullied in high school or bullied other kids. And ANY monkey can get a Criminal justice degree.[/QUOTE]
If what you say is true, and I doubt it is, then these "ignorant scumbags "could also easily be attorney's, or Catholic priests.
[QUOTE=Rjinstpete]The power of Law Enforcement is a 100% illusion. Please remember, the police are ALLOWED to lie! And if they KNEW the answer, they wouldn't be asking! So when asked a question, your response is: "Am I being detained or am I free to go? " Anything except a yes or no answer is irrelevant. Repeat the question until you get an answer. So if asked "What are you doing at an establishment known for prostitution, your response is "Am I being detained or am I free to go? " If you are being detained, you gain NOTHING by speaking to the police or answering any questions whatsoever. Your response should be "My attorney's name is Roger Futermann (or your favorite attorney). Please direct all your questions to him. "
Remember, take your hands and plant them FIRMLY FLAT against the side of your body. A common SCUMBAG police tactic is to walk into your hand and then threaten you with assaulting an officer. The police are uneducated ignorant scumbags! They are the guys that were bullied in high school or bullied other kids. And ANY monkey can get a Criminal justice degree.[/QUOTE]And you should NEVER incriminate yourself! Even if you're with a bisch and she tells the cops you're her 'date'! Stick to your story: you were NOT there to pick up a hoor! You were giving her a ride ONLY! She asked you for a ride and you complied. That's all! If they didn't catch you in the act of an illegal act (pants down, etc), stick to your story. Sure they'll be pissed and very pushy. Don't fall for their bullshit! Until YOU supply them with an admission, they have NOTHING concrete! Even if they tell you you're gonna (or could get) a ticket for any number of traffic/ vehicular violations. Take the ticket (s) threat ANYDAY over incriminating yourself into a misdemeanor solicitation rap! They probably won't issue that ticket anyways? Either way, it's a lot cheaper and less time consuming than making a solicitation charge go away! The last time I was lighted up in SP behind the Gateway was instructive. A 40ish James Caan looking po po tryed every damn tactic in the book to have me admit I had Sara Holl**** in my van for prostitution. It was the week after her birthday (8/16) and my story was we were going to Salem's for lunch. He went on and on and on. Even bringing in my wifey would love to know, etc. ! He also informed me I could get a citation for failure to signal and running a stop sign. Even though I did signal and didn't 'run' the stop sign, I did not argue with him. After trying everything, but water boarding, he gave up and sent me on my way with no tickets ans a typical you should know better lecture. BLAH BLAH BLAH! I politely absorbed his informative lecture with a # of affirmative nods of the head, then got Salem's and HEAD! NEVER incriminate yourself!
Hey you guys..
For all of you guys who have seen her I thank you for showing her we are a bunch of real guys with some morals. She has nothing but great things to say about you all. For that to be said about this hobby its a rare delicacy for my 20 years of doing the hobby stroll down memory lane.
I don't know of any girl who looks better than her out there right now. If you do please let me know. I know way to many girls, as my ho phone fills up way to much on vm that aren't half the women Melanie is.
If you haven't seen her and I know you b/c me and I will send them to you,.
Thanks for keeping it real guys..
Happy New Year 2009
Another happy guy here, and big respect to RC for spreading the cheer at this time of year. Thanks again man.
She is one great girl. Treat her azz well!
[QUOTE=Legalize it]I have a question for the group. I've had a couple of near meetings with uncle LEO after leaving an AMP or lingerie shop.[/QUOTE] Really? I haven't, but then I may just be lucky.
[QUOTE=Legalize it] I haven't got in trouble yet, but I'm a little nervous about what I should say if I get stopped and he starts asking me a lot of questions like "What are you doing in a place known for prostitution?"[/QUOTE]
"Oh my god, are you serious? I thought that was a legitimate business. In fact, I got exactly what was advertised and was not offered anything else."
[QUOTE=Legalize it] or "You have no good reason for being here" etc.[/QUOTE]"I am on my way to/from a local business." If he asks which business, name the actual business. If he responds with
[QUOTE=Legalize it]"What are you doing in a place known for prostitution?"[/QUOTE]
"Oh my god, are you serious? I thought that was a legitimate business. Can you recommend a legitimate place to get a massage?"
Basically, be as truthful as possible without admiting to anything illegal.
Hearing all the glowing reports, I decided to give OK a try. Was met by Tammy, but mamasan did the TS.
Then, on to the massage, with lots of get-to-know you chat. She started talking about her "friend" Mimi, who may be Penny, and how she wants a boyfriend so she can stop working. Then, on to discussions about extras. She offered a twofer massage but the price quoted was $$.2 and she wouldn't budge. I settled for a single.
After we negotiated, we had a decent conversation which turned to 69 subjects, then to cowgirls and finally missions.
I still had time and she brought in Mimi to demonstate her massage skills. I tipped Mimi .2 for the rubdown.
All and all, it wasn't bad, but not so great.
I think its safe to we had a heck of a good year in the hobbying lifestlye. Met some new ho's and had a blast along the way.
Let's hope 2009 is filled with more adventures than 2008. Stay safe tonight and since I like to say New Years Eve is amateur night. Be very careful if you drink and drive or LEO will be in your rear view mirror.
Happy New Year 2009..............
[QUOTE=Dragster]Good post Ram[/QUOTE]
I've been stopped by the cops twice for picking up a girl. The first time I went to jail. I'm not going to talk about the specifics of that, but it was a very long time ago.
The second time I got smart and said two magical words: "Fifth Amendment". They took my name, took her into custody, and let me go with a stern warning. I never heard about it again.
Folks, you don't have to talk to the police. You don't have to say anything at all. You don't even have to make up a story to stick to. In fact, I imagine that's more annoying to them than just coming out with "Fifth Amendment". They know what you were doing. You know what you were doing. By saying "Fifth Amendment," you're doing the most honest thing you can do: letting them know you aren't going to admit to anything. I imagine they find this much less annoying than some bullshit story. It also lets them know that you know how the game is played. If it goes to trial — which is highly unlikely — they have absolutely nothing. Not even a bullshit story. Because they know this, they are very unlikely to arrest you if you say "Fifth Amendment". Many people are unwilling to say the two magical words because they think it's a kind of admission of guilt. It is, in a way, but that's why it's magical: Because it's an admission of guilt they can do absolutely nothing with.
My advice: Don't bother with bullshit stories. End things right away with the two magical words.
[QUOTE=TampaDave]She started talking about her "friend" Mimi, who may be Penny, and how she wants a boyfriend so she can stop working. [/QUOTE]
Hey Dave, you wouldn't have a photo of Mimi/Penny would you??
I can be her boyfriend but she'd still have to work!
Thanks for this video reminder. The most important takeaway for me was that NOTHING you say to uncle leo can help you, only get you closer to an extended stay in the Hanoi Hilton.
Nervous relatively inexperienced mongers like myself thank you for your public service announcement.
[QUOTE=Gixxer1000]Rjinstpete just posted the best possible advice probably ever written here.
Everybody owes it to themselves to watch this video (there are two parts, the second is arguably more valuable).
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik[/url]
Most people go to jail because the incriminate themselves. Keeping your cool and knowing your rights WILL save your ass someday.[/QUOTE]
The exact Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
I think I can use this when the SO starts asking me to many questions also. I think it would be best for me to know nothing about nothing. Seems to work for Sgt. Schultz.. I see nothing... I know nothing... LOL!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlmz7omnM-E[/url]
Happy Hunting..
[QUOTE=Tampa Monger]I've been stopped by the cops twice for picking up a girl. The first time I went to jail. I'm not going to talk about the specifics of that, but it was a very long time ago.
The second time I got smart and said two magical words: "Fifth Amendment". They took my name, took her into custody, and let me go with a stern warning. I never heard about it again.
Folks, you don't have to talk to the police. You don't have to say anything at all. You don't even have to make up a story to stick to. In fact, I imagine that's more annoying to them than just coming out with "Fifth Amendment". They know what you were doing. You know what you were doing. By saying "Fifth Amendment," you're doing the most honest thing you can do: letting them know you aren't going to admit to anything. I imagine they find this much less annoying than some bullshit story. It also lets them know that you know how the game is played. If it goes to trial — which is highly unlikely — they have absolutely nothing. Not even a bullshit story. Because they know this, they are very unlikely to arrest you if you say "Fifth Amendment". Many people are unwilling to say the two magical words because they think it's a kind of admission of guilt. It is, in a way, but that's why it's magical: Because it's an admission of guilt they can do absolutely nothing with.
My advice: Don't bother with bullshit stories. End things right away with the two magical words.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=R Consultant]The exact Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
I think I can use this when the SO starts asking me to many questions also. I think it would be best for me to know nothing about nothing. Seems to work for Sgt. Schultz.. I see nothing... I know nothing... LOL!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlmz7omnM-E[/url]
Happy Hunting..[/QUOTE]
And of course, the relevant part for us is "No person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself". In other words, don't say anything! No bullshit stories, nothing. ALL cops are aware of the Fifth Amendment.
[QUOTE=Tampa Monger]And of course, the relevant part for us is "No person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself". In other words, don't say anything! No bullshit stories, nothing. ALL cops are aware of the Fifth Amendment.[/QUOTE]
In general, the courts have stated that a cop can't detain you at a traffic stop beyond a "reasonable amount of time" which is generally held up to be 20 minutes. At the 20 minute mark, start asking the cop "am I free to go or am I being legally detained for questioning". That will usually make them sh*t or get off the pot.
Or, just point out the number of SW that have walked by that you're missing out on because they're holding you up..... ;)
No, i don't, I didn't think of it. She did give a pretty good massage though.
[QUOTE=Drew Park]Hey Dave, you wouldn't have a photo of Mimi/Penny would you??
I can be her boyfriend but she'd still have to work![/QUOTE]
Have been reading this forum for years.
You all have been a wealth of info. I thank all of you! If I may, I think you should all watch this little clip:
[url]http://www.wimp.com/coprule/[/url]
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it in the [u]Police Tactics and Legal Issues [/u] thread in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]
Watch this clip:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA&feature=related[/url]
They really make you you think.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it in the [u]Police Tactics and Legal Issues [/u] thread in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]
There is a lot of talk in this forum about cop stops. Check this out...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA&feature=related[/url]
JT
I need a little help here. Someone here must have seen this provider.
Just want to find out if the pics match the person and if the service is good. You can send me a P.M. if you want too. I've seen her Ads for a while but haven't found any reviews for her. Help please before my other head makes me go! LOL
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Simply put not her in the picture. I tried her last week. Incall spot off Gandy. Cute girl, but not that hot ass body in the picture at all. Petite chick, ok build, totally quiet and lazy lay. Kind of creeped me out. Almost left, she kept staring at me when I walked in, and I told her she was creeping me out. Then after she got naked, I felt a little more comfortable but she kept starring. Really creepy IMO.
[QUOTE=SirLickaLot]I need a little help here. Someone here must have seen this provider.
Just want to find out if the pics match the person and if the service is good. You can send me a P.M. if you want too. I've seen her Ads for a while but haven't found any reviews for her. Help please before my other head makes me go! LOL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AlterdBeast]Simply put not her in the picture. I tried her last week. Incall spot off Gandy. Cute girl, but not that hot ass body in the picture at all. Petite chick, ok build, totally quiet and lazy lay. Kind of creeped me out. Almost left, she kept staring at me when I walked in, and I told her she was creeping me out. Then after she got naked, I felt a little more comfortable but she kept starring. Really creepy IMO.[/QUOTE]
Glad to see these reviews. I was thinking about checking her out. Thanks for saving me the effort.
[QUOTE=AlterdBeast]Simply put not her in the picture. I tried her last week. Incall spot off Gandy. Cute girl, but not that hot ass body in the picture at all. Petite chick, ok build, totally quiet and lazy lay. Kind of creeped me out. Almost left, she kept staring at me when I walked in, and I told her she was creeping me out. Then after she got naked, I felt a little more comfortable but she kept starring. Really creepy IMO.[/QUOTE]Again, TGTBT or, when will these girls ever learn? Real pics & real reviews by hobbyists will result in a profitable situation. Otherwise, scams will be exposed and the real providers benefit.
Sean Let*** a 5'3" 200lbs bowling ball po po was arrested yesterday with his lovely drunken sister. SPTimes had nice popofile on him and his adorable sister. Sheriff somehow screwed up (I think) and put his home address on rap sheet. Looks like he's either an Eagles or Ravens fan! LOL! Have to give his bosses at PP po po central credit for NOT trying to cover it up (avoid the arrest, etc)as they usually do? Still, by FAR, Clearwater is the worst po po agency in these parts!
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]Sean Let*** a 5'3" 200lbs bowling ball po po was arrested yesterday with his lovely drunken sister. SPTimes had nice popofile on him and his adorable sister. Sheriff somehow screwed up (I think) and put his home address on rap sheet. Looks like he's either an Eagles or Ravens fan! LOL! Have to give his bosses at PP po po central credit for NOT trying to cover it up (avoid the arrest, etc)as they usually do? Still, by FAR, Clearwater is the worst po po agency in these parts![/QUOTE]Looks like he is tased and confused in his booking photoshoot! LOL! Also po po removed his address yesterday and it's now listed as exempt- a typical po po privilege. Wonder what the hell he was drinking?
[QUOTE=Sir Eptishes]Looks like he is tased and confused in his booking photoshoot! LOL! Also po po removed his address yesterday and it's now listed as exempt- a typical po po privilege. Wonder what the hell he was drinking?[/QUOTE]According to the SPTimes, he was tased! I noticed he seems to write a lot of tickets in Pineapple Park. Looks like he got to see the other side of the law and took one for the po po team? ! LOL! Anyways, watch your speed in PP, make sure you have a valid registration and don't fail to yield. A few of his favorite citations. Oh yeah. His drink was allegedly a big COCKtail!
Don't forget Tiffany W is back out on the streets and this girl will take your money and wallet and anything else of value. I know plenty of guys who got robbed from her back before she went to prison.
Now shes back out and she is going to carry on her tradition as guys have been asking about her already. So if you run into her put your valuables away or she will be helping herself.
Happy Hunting..
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]Tiffany Hol**** won another 49th street hoor
makeover vacation. Don't think
she'll be missed at all? Too bad we can't trade in the worthless howers like her for the release of the Kimmies and Saras?[/QUOTE]
All over 4th street last night with a lot of cars being lighted up. Also a couple of walking WSW's stopped and chased around 9th ave north. 34th street was also hoppin' with bacon. Haines had sheriff prowling and parked. Looks like they're trying to keep our super bowl fans safe! LOL! Don't they realize many of the super bowl attendees like hoors too?
If you go on to the HCSO website and do searches for the past weel and do a online search of arrests by date and then click on summary report you will see a whole bunch of prositution arrests. If you copy and paste the booking number and do the arrest search again on another page you will see alot of familair faces off of CL. They are doing major stings right now! They were on Westshore and Cypress, then Cypress and Lois, then Boyscout and Lois, and now Courtney Campbell and Rocky Point.
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]Sean Let*** a 5'3" 200lbs bowling ball po po was arrested yesterday with his lovely drunken sister. SPTimes had nice popofile on him and his adorable sister. Sheriff somehow screwed up (I think) and put his home address on rap sheet. Looks like he's either an Eagles or Ravens fan! LOL! Have to give his bosses at PP po po central credit for NOT trying to cover it up (avoid the arrest, etc)as they usually do? Still, by FAR, Clearwater is the worst po po agency in these parts![/QUOTE]Looks like the fine City of Pineapple Park has placed him on PAID leave while they conduct an exhaustive investigation of Sean 'Puffy' Leconto. Rumour has it they've hired Reno 911's Lt. Dangle as a special master (bater) to assist with the probe. He'll likely be promoted to Chief of Po Po when it's all over! LOL!
I bet he will be fine he was just a little drunk and wanted to go a few rounds.Who hasn't let the loose lips go and talk to much crap and end up on their face a time or two.
Builds a little character and lets you know some guys can hit like mack trucks.
Happy Hunting..
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]Looks like the fine City of Pineapple Park has placed him on PAID leave while they conduct an exhaustive investigation of Sean 'Puffy' Leconto. Rumour has it they've hired Reno 911's Lt. Dangle as a special master (bater) to assist with the probe. He'll likely be promoted to Chief of Po Po when it's all over! LOL![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=R Consultant]I bet he will be fine he was just a little drunk and wanted to go a few rounds.Who hasn't let the loose lips go and talk to much crap and end up on their face a time or two.
Builds a little character and lets you know some guys can hit like mack trucks.
Happy Hunting..[/QUOTE]So it should be interesting. About a year ago, they tried to fire the city landscaper who occassionally appeared on Bubba the crud sponge's show!
Forget the dudes name, but I think he's still got his job in Pineappleville?
This has nothing to do with our hobby, but I like the Steelers 31 - 24..
I was just happy the Steelers won. It was making me a little worried at the end though. It was a good game and each team should be proud that they made it to the Super Bowl.
Let's do what The Boss said and go to Disney or at least OBT....LOL!
[QUOTE=lolligagger]This has nothing to do with our hobby, but I like the Steelers 31 - 24..[/QUOTE]
A great game, but really screwed up our hooring! Wonder how much overtime was paid to po po for the pre-bowl clean up effort? Hope the weather warms up so I can go on a hofari? Too bad they just don't make it a 'free hoor zone' for every super Bowl. That would get a lot of money circulating and surely stimulate both the economy and our pythons! A lot cheaper than anything I've seen congress gabbing about! LOL! They should morph 'TARP' (troubled asset recovery program) into 'TARP' (tasty ass reaming program) and stimulate street ho's. Sorta' like a 'let no ho be left behind'! COBRA would be another large part of the stimulus. 'comprehensive omnibus brothel rejuvination and assistance. Just say no to stings would be the monger mantra. Elliot Spitzer would then return to his glory days and be confirmed as Ho-land security Chief. There he would investigate illegal po po harassment of us hoorhounds and keep us informed of emerging talent! Oh yeah. The real bailout would be uncle sam bailing out all the good looking ho's from jail!
Have condoms with you when you monger : Robert Cam****!! You can look
his worthless azz up at Pinellas County Sheriff website. Don't know all the particulars of his crime, but I hope they give him an angry 400lbs cellmate.
He don't even need to go to trial!
Would it be asking too much for the city of SP to sponsor the AZZZ-parilla fest??!? We could be invaded by a pirate ship full of desperate hooors!
Lord knows we need both economic and python stimuli in this barren hoor-starved hotropolis!! I am willing to volunteer in this effort and would like to ask for other enlistees in the Pinellas python brigade to meat and greet the
swashbuckling hoors!!
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]But this is just way too kinky! George Bartusek was arrested a couple of days ago in Cape Coral. He was having simulated sex and masturbating with 2 blow up dolls inside his car at a Publix shopping center! Looks like he parked right in front of the store to show off his sexual prowess for the lucky viewers!
Google his name and the story will come up as well as pics of his beige lincoln! LOL! The really sad thing about all of this is that his blow up bisches look better than a lot of our scraggly street ho's here in SP!
And what is it about dipshits and Lincolns? Maybe we can get Chris a couple of blow up ho's?[/QUOTE]
to the term "blow job".... Thanks for posting. I haven't laughed this hard in months.
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]But this is just way too kinky! George Bartusek was arrested a couple of days ago in Cape Coral. He was having simulated sex and masturbating with 2 blow up dolls inside his car at a Publix shopping center! Looks like he parked right in front of the store to show off his sexual prowess for the lucky viewers!
Google his name and the story will come up as well as pics of his beige lincoln! LOL! The really sad thing about all of this is that his blow up bisches look better than a lot of our scraggly street ho's here in SP!
And what is it about dipshits and Lincolns? Maybe we can get Chris a couple of blow up ho's?[/QUOTE]
This should explain why I moved up here from Southwest Florida
As I was getting back home this evening I put on a little piece of a guitarists who is one of the best that ever lived in my eyes. Listen to him shred that guitar he really does make that guitar talk to you... Time to empty my bottle of Turkey.....
My favortie line is:
"You mess with her you'll see a man get mean"! -- as I'm sure is alot of folks.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIpIsM4KTLc[/url]
or
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuT9Q4VmR4E&feature=related[/url]
RIP Stevie Ray Vaughn
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]But this is just way too kinky! George Bartusek was arrested a couple of days ago in Cape Coral. He was having simulated sex and masturbating with 2 blow up dolls inside his car at a Publix shopping center! Looks like he parked right in front of the store to show off his sexual prowess for the lucky viewers!
Google his name and the story will come up as well as pics of his beige lincoln! LOL! The really sad thing about all of this is that his blow up bisches look better than a lot of our scraggly street ho's here in SP!
And what is it about dipshits and Lincolns? Maybe we can get Chris a couple of blow up ho's?[/QUOTE]This guy is really weird! I went on the Lee County Clerk of the Court site to check out his other citations, and he must be a big party boy! ? Dui, loud music, reckless driving, left of center, etc! I laughed my assss off at pics of his blow up hos and the reeses on the dash! A real fun fella! LOL!
the same lady? I find myself drawn to the CL poster.
Nemo
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/1014895721.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Peter Rammer]Kristina Cau[/QUOTE]