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Approach
[QUOTE=Jlart123;5342319]In my eyes the best approach is what I call the reverse bait & switch. These women play on our thirst for sex when they bait & switch us with false ads and pics hoping that the thirst will win out and we stay and settle since we are already there. We need to do the same thing to them and use the thirst they have against them when it comes to the money. Texting a girl or calling her blind when she has no idea who is on the other line for BB is probably going to lead to ghosting more time than not but if you approach it like a regular session and take a few extra bills with you to the appointment make it clear what you want there face to face and offer a little extra or none at all and hope that she agrees to the BBFS even if it something that is normally taboo because she doesn't want to see the money walk out the door!
This doesn't always work but it is a tactic that has worked for me in the past. Most mongers though especially if married or hobbying during a lunch break probably don't want to try this because they don't want to waste the limited time window they have and end up with blue balls if it doesn't work but the key to winning this game is patience and using the Big Head.[/QUOTE]You know what. You might be onto something there.
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[QUOTE=wpbdude;5345110]Looking at her pics I could swear I remember reading a report about her and a bf robbing people. Do your homework![/QUOTE]Did car date with her. Did not know her history. Will only do car dates in the future.
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[QUOTE=Ignoramus;5345356]I have seen her too. Only complaint (kind of a big one) is that Barry didn't tell us how rail skinny she was, and how candied up she has been getting. The pics don't show it.[/QUOTE]Was not aware.
I did car date. She was cool, no problems.
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Yes
[QUOTE=Jlart123;5342319]In my eyes the best approach is what I call the reverse bait & switch. These women play on our thirst for sex when they bait & switch us with false ads and pics hoping that the thirst will win out and we stay and settle since we are already there. We need to do the same thing to them and use the thirst they have against them when it comes to the money. Texting a girl or calling her blind when she has no idea who is on the other line for BB is probably going to lead to ghosting more time than not but if you approach it like a regular session and take a few extra bills with you to the appointment make it clear what you want there face to face and offer a little extra or none at all and hope that she agrees to the BBFS even if it something that is normally taboo because she doesn't want to see the money walk out the door!
This doesn't always work but it is a tactic that has worked for me in the past. Most mongers though especially if married or hobbying during a lunch break probably don't want to try this because they don't want to waste the limited time window they have and end up with blue balls if it doesn't work but the key to winning this game is patience and using the Big Head.[/QUOTE]I have done this before, and it does work sometimes but then you get the lackluster main event because she's not into it and you threw a curve-ball at her. I do the same thing I just do it over text. I would say 95% of the the BB ladies I've got said no at first, then I said "How about a little extra for it?" And that goes over well. Then she doesn't walk into something she wasn't prepared for and you get an honest session. I know the game is rigged against us, but a little honesty and kindness has gotten me alot of extra play and alot more repeat bb sessions. You really do catch more bees with honey. Do whatever works for you though and stay safe.
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Lol
[QUOTE=BarryMcKock;5346997]Was not aware.
I did car date. She was cool, no problems.[/QUOTE]Was it in the dark? Somewhere around 2 dozen track marks, AAA cups (maybe minus A), and the size of a toothpick. I agree, she was cool, and it was a good time, I'm just sayin!
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[QUOTE=Ignoramus;5348735]Was it in the dark? Somewhere around 2 dozen track marks, AAA cups (maybe minus A), and the size of a toothpick. I agree, she was cool, and it was a good time, I'm just sayin![/QUOTE]No, we did a car date in the middle of the day, in broad daylight.
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[QUOTE=BarryMcKock;5352006]No, we did a car date in the middle of the day, in broad daylight.[/QUOTE]Do you know if greek is on the menu too?
HolyDiver.
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[QUOTE=HolyDiver01;5352153]Do you know if greek is on the menu too?
HolyDiver.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure it was. Don't quote me on that though.
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Beauty
So was able to see Beauty. Texting was ok, setting up an outcall was alot of work she was super hesitant. But finally nailed it down. When she arrived she looks like her pics maybe a bit cuter, very slim. Definitely a spinner. Small tits. Average, like a 5. Did some small talk and she used the bathroom. After all the niceties we got to business. Oral was ok she was able to take it all, pretty good, bit of a gag reflex. After that she just scooted up beside and turned away from me. A little different but I went with it. Moved through several positions, no complaints. No strange odors outside of typical stuff. Can't really complain, she did just fine. Not the tightest in the world. Overall about a 6 or 7. She's not a model but she's decent looking, solid performance. $. 5 for 30 minutes. CIP. As always YMMV. Stay safe out there my friends.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/hello-love-my-name-is-beauty-b/563488514326[/URL]
This girl has agreed to BB but I haven't nailed it down yet if anyone has let me know:
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/wet-and-ready/501589345584[/URL]
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"Ava"
I don't know Leon, but if you manage to get a picture of her that is less than 5 years old, please post it. I have asked before but never received. Her ad hasn't changed since 2016 and that scares me to the point I haven't taken the leap yet.
[QUOTE=Leon3798;5359853]So was able to see Beauty. Texting was ok, setting up an outcall was alot of work she was super hesitant. But finally nailed it down. When she arrived she looks like her pics maybe a bit cuter, very slim. Definitely a spinner. Small tits. Average, like a 5. Did some small talk and she used the bathroom. After all the niceties we got to business. Oral was ok she was able to take it all, pretty good, bit of a gag reflex. After that she just scooted up beside and turned away from me. A little different but I went with it. Moved through several positions, no complaints. No strange odors outside of typical stuff. Can't really complain, she did just fine. Not the tightest in the world. Overall about a 6 or 7. She's not a model but she's decent looking, solid performance. $. 5 for 30 minutes. CIP. As always YMMV. Stay safe out there my friends.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/hello-love-my-name-is-beauty-b/563488514326[/URL]
This girl has agreed to BB but I haven't nailed it down yet if anyone has let me know:
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/wet-and-ready/501589345584[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Saw her
[QUOTE=Ignoramus;5361256]I don't know Leon, but if you manage to get a picture of her that is less than 5 years old, please post it. I have asked before but never received. Her ad hasn't changed since 2016 and that scares me to the point I haven't taken the leap yet.[/QUOTE]I finally saw her. She's a bit taller, probably 5' 9" or so. She had some new pics on STG that were pretty spot on but they've since vanished and she's back to the typical 3. Her face is a bit worn and she has some baby damage but she's still got a decent form. Wore street clothes. I give her an average 5. Boobs are still nice, hairy pussy. She was at a decent hotel when I took her back actually. Take that how you will. Her attitude was pleasant and she was fine with me. Only complaint is oral was quick. Once you're mildly aroused she's ready to get started. So if you're really into BJ's may want to look elsewhere. I like the main event as most of us do I suspect so small gripe for me. Eyes closed the whole time but she does seem to genuinely enjoy it. She feels ok. Nothing to write home about but was solid. I give the whole thing a 5. Everything was average. Might see her again if I'm in a pinch. CIP. As always YMMV. Stay safe gents.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/62573203/[/URL]
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RE: Ava
[QUOTE=Leon3798;5368540]I finally saw her. She's a bit taller, probably 5' 9" or so. She had some new pics on STG that were pretty spot on but they've since vanished and she's back to the typical 3. Her face is a bit worn and she has some baby damage but she's still got a decent form. Wore street clothes. I give her an average 5. Boobs are still nice, hairy pussy. She was at a decent hotel when I took her back actually. Take that how you will. Her attitude was pleasant and she was fine with me. Only complaint is oral was quick. Once you're mildly aroused she's ready to get started. So if you're really into BJ's may want to look elsewhere. I like the main event as most of us do I suspect so small gripe for me. Eyes closed the whole time but she does seem to genuinely enjoy it. She feels ok. Nothing to write home about but was solid. I give the whole thing a 5. Everything was average. Might see her again if I'm in a pinch. CIP. As always YMMV. Stay safe gents.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/62573203/[/URL][/QUOTE]What was the damage with CIP?
HolyDiver.
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Met Alexxa agaij
As some of you may know, Alexxa Nicole is my goto gal for rimming and BBBJ / BBFS. Ever since she's moved to her house in Durham, getting a hold of her has been a pain. I've gotten ghosted at least twice by her on account of her family not allowing her to pursue these activities, go figure. Anyway caught a lucky break and managed to finally see her last week for some carplay. Took her to a seclude location and hopped into the back seat for some awesome BBBJ and rimming, man she really gets all the way in your junk. Then a little cowgirl action where I couldn't control myself and busted inside of her. We both cleaned up and drove her back home, no fuss. Wish all my dreams with her could be this smooth but alas.
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New BB scam
Had this happen specifically by the Craigslist ad girl in New Hill, but also by a couple other girls in Durham on Hwy 55.
They agree to a creampie when you're negotiating the deal and then when you get there and go to have sex, they tell you to out on a condom and claim they didn't realize what a creampie is. They also try to gaslight you and act like of course they would never do a creampie, that's unsafe and it's actually your fault for asking for something they wouldn't do. And then they won't refund money because according to them you should've known they would never do bare.
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Scam
Because a lot of times the handler is the one you are communicating with and they are telling you anything to get you there because it up's the odds that you won't leave. Then the girl has no idea of said conversation.
[QUOTE=BarryMcKock;5377429]Had this happen specifically by the Craigslist ad girl in New Hill, but also by a couple other girls in Durham on Hwy 55.
They agree to a creampie when you're negotiating the deal and then when you get there and go to have sex, they tell you to out on a condom and claim they didn't realize what a creampie is. They also try to gaslight you and act like of course they would never do a creampie, that's unsafe and it's actually your fault for asking for something they wouldn't do. And then they won't refund money because according to them you should've known they would never do bare.[/QUOTE]
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Confirm
[QUOTE=Kurt309;5377742]Because a lot of times the handler is the one you are communicating with and they are telling you anything to get you there because it up's the odds that you won't leave. Then the girl has no idea of said conversation.[/QUOTE]One thing I've gotten in the habit of doing is once you're both present I always confirm. XYZ, bb right? If they refuse or look confused I'll try to remind them and if they still refuse then I end the date. No donation or 'gas' Try to scam me then you can F off. Unless I've seen them previously this has become pretty automatic for me.
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[QUOTE=Leon3798;5378259]One thing I've gotten in the habit of doing is once you're both present I always confirm. XYZ, bb right? If they refuse or look confused I'll try to remind them and if they still refuse then I end the date. No donation or 'gas' Try to scam me then you can F off. Unless I've seen them previously this has become pretty automatic for me.[/QUOTE]Smart. Going to do that in the future. Once you give them the money it's all over.
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Another to avoid
Yikes. Demons galore. 60 qv, 80 hhr.
Arrived, her legs are covered with marks.
Was smart this time and made sure she was going to deliver on promises before giving money. We had agreed on BBFS, she asked if I had a cover. Then she tried upping the price. I was looking for an excuse to leave so that was the perfect opportunity. She then texting me a series on rants that continued into this morning. Insane and disgusting.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-get-naughty/446259016984[/URL]
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Sorry
[QUOTE=BarryMcKock;5396011]Yikes. Demons galore. 60 qv, 80 hhr.
Arrived, her legs are covered with marks.
Was smart this time and made sure she was going to deliver on promises before giving money. We had agreed on BBFS, she asked if I had a cover. Then she tried upping the price. I was looking for an excuse to leave so that was the perfect opportunity. She then texting me a series on rants that continued into this morning. Insane and disgusting.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-get-naughty/446259016984[/URL][/QUOTE]Yea sometimes its like but good on you to confirm what was agreed upon. Nope, then breeze out of there. Sucks but you saved your money. Use it on a good BB provider. Stay safe.
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Star Scammer
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/wish-upon-a-shooting-star/39735297[/URL]
She quoted price and I asked if that included creampie (my normal move). She said yes. Because if recent experiences I have out girls on the spot and asked what a creampie is to ensure we are on the same page. Star said a creampie is either c*mming on her face or peeing on her.
So had I not verified I would have gotten there, paid my money, and then been told she doesn't do bareback or allow CIP.
This is the new game they're playing. If you do not specifically verify a CIP she is going to rip you off.
Anyone has any strategies for how to bring it up?
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Strats
[QUOTE=BarryMcKock;5410032][URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/wish-upon-a-shooting-star/39735297[/URL]
She quoted price and I asked if that included creampie (my normal move). She said yes. Because if recent experiences I have out girls on the spot and asked what a creampie is to ensure we are on the same page. Star said a creampie is either c*mming on her face or peeing on her.
So had I not verified I would have gotten there, paid my money, and then been told she doesn't do bareback or allow CIP.
This is the new game they're playing. If you do not specifically verify a CIP she is going to rip you off.
Anyone has any strategies for how to bring it up?[/QUOTE]There is no perfect go-to for this. Some providers provide BBFS with no CIP. For me BBFS is good enough. I just can't get there with the cover but busting on the outside is fine. But yea just do what you're doing. Just be polite and ask. My rule is be polite, but don't be a pushover and get scammed.
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Ahna
Just got done plowing the hell out of this girl and loved every minute of it. YMMV but I found her extremely attractive. She's a curvy snowbunny and looks just like her pics. Little slow on the reply from my texts but once she did was responsive. Once she arrived it was typical small talk, but she was well mannered and well spoken. No demons. Absolutely GREAT tits. Clothes come off and she's what you'd expect from a bigger girl, but she smelled amazing, hairy pussy, smooth skin. Oral was totally on point. I'm not much for 'playing with the boys' (solid movie reference) but she was all for it. For some reason I was totally into her, for 30 mins bb is $. 5 but I paid extra for her to stay longer and just continued. We did everything except anal. Oral on each other, Russian, every position. After I unloaded my soul into her we sat and talked alot while she massaged my back and then she laid on my chest for awhile before she finally left. Not everyones cup of tea and I'm typically not really into bigger girls any more than the average guy but this girl was great to me, and the first I paid to stay longer. I cannot stress enough, YMMV, but wow I cannot say enough good things. Only slight knock is she's not the tightest. Other than that gripe I LOVED HER. Already have plans for another date. I recommend. If you like big girls I HIGHLY recommend. Solid 9 looks and 9 date for me. If she was tighter I'd give her a 10. She knows her craft. CIP, but CIM is definitely an option. I hate when guys say 'treat her well' because its lame but I want her to stick around here so lets treat her well.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/63966623[/URL]#.
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Question
[QUOTE=Leon3798;5423592]Just got done plowing the hell out of this girl and loved every minute of it. YMMV but I found her extremely attractive. She's a curvy snowbunny and looks just like her pics. Little slow on the reply from my texts but once she did was responsive. Once she arrived it was typical small talk, but she was well mannered and well spoken. No demons. Absolutely GREAT tits. Clothes come off and she's what you'd expect from a bigger girl, but she smelled amazing, hairy pussy, smooth skin. Oral was totally on point. I'm not much for 'playing with the boys' (solid movie reference) but she was all for it. For some reason I was totally into her, for 30 mins bb is $. 5 but I paid extra for her to stay longer and just continued. We did everything except anal. Oral on each other, Russian, every position. After I unloaded my soul into her we sat and talked alot while she massaged my back and then she laid on my chest for awhile before she finally left. Not everyones cup of tea and I'm typically not really into bigger girls any more than the average guy but this girl was great to me, and the first I paid to stay longer. I cannot stress enough, YMMV, but wow I cannot say enough good things. Only slight knock is she's not the tightest. Other than that gripe I LOVED HER. Already have plans for another date. I recommend. If you like big girls I HIGHLY recommend. Solid 9 looks and 9 date for me. If she was tighter I'd give her a 10. She knows her craft. CIP, but CIM is definitely an option. I hate when guys say 'treat her well' because its lame but I want her to stick around here so lets treat her well.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/63966623[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]She "arrived" to you? Did you pick her up b / c she told me she doesn't drive.
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Craigslist girl?
[QUOTE=Leon3798;5423592]Just got done plowing the hell out of this girl and loved every minute of it. YMMV but I found her extremely attractive. She's a curvy snowbunny and looks just like her pics. Little slow on the reply from my texts but once she did was responsive. Once she arrived it was typical small talk, but she was well mannered and well spoken. No demons. Absolutely GREAT tits. Clothes come off and she's what you'd expect from a bigger girl, but she smelled amazing, hairy pussy, smooth skin. Oral was totally on point. I'm not much for 'playing with the boys' (solid movie reference) but she was all for it. For some reason I was totally into her, for 30 mins bb is $. 5 but I paid extra for her to stay longer and just continued. We did everything except anal. Oral on each other, Russian, every position. After I unloaded my soul into her we sat and talked alot while she massaged my back and then she laid on my chest for awhile before she finally left. Not everyones cup of tea and I'm typically not really into bigger girls any more than the average guy but this girl was great to me, and the first I paid to stay longer. I cannot stress enough, YMMV, but wow I cannot say enough good things. Only slight knock is she's not the tightest. Other than that gripe I LOVED HER. Already have plans for another date. I recommend. If you like big girls I HIGHLY recommend. Solid 9 looks and 9 date for me. If she was tighter I'd give her a 10. She knows her craft. CIP, but CIM is definitely an option. I hate when guys say 'treat her well' because its lame but I want her to stick around here so lets treat her well.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/63966623[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Potential overlap with [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5891-Craigslist-Advertiser-Reviews&p=5422782&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5422782 ?
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Raelyn
Saw this one last night for an incall romp. I was quoted QV BBFS 175 or QV BBFSCIP for 200. I took the CIP option. She put her hair up in a pony tail and we both got undressed fairly quickly. Got right into K9 and plowed the shit out of her and unloaded inside her. Since it was a QV, I didn't even bother trying to go slow and blew in about 10 minutes. I was there about 20 minutes total. She looks like her pics, nice looking, decent tits, pussy tight enough. I would repeat.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/intriguingcleanclassydiscreetr/129840430188[/URL]
HolyDiver.
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Uber
[QUOTE=VincentCor74;5423839]She "arrived" to you? Did you pick her up b / c she told me she doesn't drive.[/QUOTE]I uber'd her to me. Was like 15 bucks.
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Summer
Finally met with Sunmer tonight, and I'm sorry I didn't see her before. Nice personality, friendly service. Simple text setup. Met me outside her place and walked me to the room. Her mom had the kids. LOL. Some chatting, dfk, daty, good BBBJ, then she hopped on for BBFS cg with a cip. I was out in a half hr for 120. Definitely going to repeat.
Happy Mongering!
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[QUOTE=ClerksFan72;5427054]Finally met with Sunmer tonight, and I'm sorry I didn't see her before. Nice personality, friendly service. Simple text setup. Met me outside her place and walked me to the room. Her mom had the kids. LOL. Some chatting, dfk, daty, good BBBJ, then she hopped on for BBFS cg with a cip. I was out in a half hr for 120. Definitely going to repeat.
Happy Mongering![/QUOTE]Do you have a link by any chance?
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[QUOTE=ClerksFan72;5427054]Finally met with Sunmer tonight, and I'm sorry I didn't see her before. Nice personality, friendly service. Simple text setup. Met me outside her place and walked me to the room. Her mom had the kids. LOL. Some chatting, dfk, daty, good BBBJ, then she hopped on for BBFS cg with a cip. I was out in a half hr for 120. Definitely going to repeat.
Happy Mongering![/QUOTE]Do you have a link for summer.
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Summer link
[QUOTE=DelLuv;5428171]Do you have a link for summer.[/QUOTE]Sorry I forgot to add it.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/summer-is-always-in-season/199271996738[/URL]
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Summer
[QUOTE=ClerksFan72;5428442]Sorry I forgot to add it.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/summer-is-always-in-season/199271996738[/URL][/QUOTE]Summer was one of my favorite bb providers before she stopped doing outcalls. She has a slim frame, very tight. I know her little ones prevent outcalls now. Sigh. C'est la vie.
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Flaming hot
So saw this young lady a few days ago. Pretty easy to get hold of and responsive. Nailed down the outcall pretty quickly. When she arrived she looks like her pictures sans filters. Some light demons more evidence of self cutting in the past though. Nothing too extreme but you'll see it. She was friendly and polite. After some pleasantries we got down to business. She has some small tits but they're nice. Body is average. Solid oral with DT, got me going. Then onto the main event. She was tighter than I expected. Felt really good. Had no trouble running her through the rotation and she seemed into it and said she came a couple of times. She was feeling good so no problems getting to the finish line. Give her looks about a 6 and an 8 on performance. Solid DT and decently tight. Little pricey for BB at $$ but can't complain for what we ask for. CIP included. I'd recommend if you're looking for someone new to break the dry spell of BB girls lately.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/flaming-hot-new-in-town/381670926767[/URL]
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Summer
[QUOTE=ClerksFan72;5428442]Sorry I forgot to add it.
[URL]https://raleigh.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/summer-is-always-in-season/199271996738[/URL][/QUOTE]The link says she's only available midnight to 5 am, is that right?
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Doesn't like covers?
This one says in her ad that she doesn't like covers. Anyone have any dreams with her? Looks promising.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/64349860[/URL]#.
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[QUOTE=OldManRiver;5439217]This one says in her ad that she doesn't like covers. Anyone have any dreams with her? Looks promising.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/64349860[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Looks fake to me tbh.
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Fake
[QUOTE=OldManRiver;5439217]This one says in her ad that she doesn't like covers. Anyone have any dreams with her? Looks promising.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/64349860[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Fake as can be. She is listed thru out the state.
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Ginger Tops?
[QUOTE=OldManRiver;5439217]This one says in her ad that she doesn't like covers. Anyone have any dreams with her? Looks promising.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/64349860[/URL]#.[/QUOTE][URL]https://multi.xnxx.com/gallery/1203683/80e0/ginger_tops_gallery_4_15/5/[/URL]
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Nope, call her.
[QUOTE=CapsZ1965;5438727]The link says she's only available midnight to 5 am, is that right?[/QUOTE]Saw her tonight early evening. Call or text her.
She is a sweetie. Treat her right.
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Vickie
Saw her on Thursday in her new private location. Place is pretty bare, but service was great as usual. She does not stop from the time you get there until you leave.
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[QUOTE=HomerAnubis;5441318]Saw her tonight early evening. Call or text her.
She is a sweetie. Treat her right.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I sent a text yesterday, others mentioned she's not replying lately so I'll just wait for now.
I will treat her right (I let the providers run the show) and be generous with my tip.