The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

Any intel on this one is appreciated.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9283c04e-81c2-42d3-bb36-126396f0986a[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3351460]I have found that agreeing on an arrangement right after or at the end of the m / g works best for me. If you go to the fc without an arrangement in place then the girl will have that on her mind during the fc. Plenty of girls have been scammed and taken by guys who do this. If your determining their worth an7 d they have no say in it then your taking advantage of it. No BP or utr hgirl wouldx allow you to do that. These girls are there for mostly financial help, they can be fucked for free by anyone they choose. Lots of guys claim that they do this but you never see a profile link to these girls that blindly get fucked but have no idea as to what they will receive.[/QUOTE]Of course no BP or UTR girl would allow me to do that which is why the bowl allows me to eliminate the professionals. IMHO I believe that bc they don't know the amount and it is on their mind is why they go all out to impress me with their skills during that very first FC romp. Also, it may work for me bc at the m & g I don't come across as a scammer. I give the POT a copy of my most recent STD report and my vasectomy report. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=ManishRaleigh;3351563]Any intel on this one is appreciated.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9283c04e-81c2-42d3-bb36-126396f0986a[/URL][/QUOTE]I am really surprised I don't recognize her page. I worked GSO quite a bit last summer. TBH it all starts with getting the POTs phone number when you encourage them to text you off the SA site by listing your cell number on the 2nd or 3rd message. If they don't get the hint then say "if you don't mind lets switch to text". Then put the number into the FB browser and see if you get lucky.

I am transitioning away from my # 2 in my current rotation so I can just spend time once a week with my # 1. She can host and lives in the Chapel Hill / Durham area, in the 25 - 30 age range. PM me for details.

Any intel on BlancaLove on SA? Feel free to share here or thru PM. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3354406]I am transitioning away from my # 2 in my current rotation so I can just spend time once a week with my # 1. She can host and lives in the Chapel Hill / Durham area, in the 25 - 30 age range. PM me for details.[/QUOTE]Is she looking for more partners? I'm interested depending on her menu!

[QUOTE=RduDude;3354524]Any intel on BlancaLove on SA? Feel free to share here or thru PM. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Yea, I know about her, but you have need provided any info. I. E your first post. Her is just a taste, she is 31, not 25 and is GPS.

[QUOTE=Bb211;3355613]Is she looking for more partners? I'm interested depending on her menu![/QUOTE]Menu? Haha, I can tell you have been with the BP girls too long. I was in that scene for 2 years prior to the Bowl. SBs don't have menus LOL. That's the beauty of the bowl.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3359018]Menu? Haha, I can tell you have been with the BP girls too long. I was in that scene for 2 years prior to the Bowl. SBs don't have menus LOL. That's the beauty of the bowl.[/QUOTE]ST, you're right on that. You should assume GFE. To me that's the point. Based on my own experience and what I read on these blogs, the main questions regarding SBs are whether they wish to do bareback sex (BBBJ is a given. If a "SB" doesn't, she's probably a pro) and / or anal. In my limited experience, POTs have specifically said so at the M&G (usually diplomatically) when they don't care for the latter.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3359100]ST, you're right on that. You should assume GFE. To me that's the point. Based on my own experience and what I read on these blogs, the main questions regarding SBs are whether they wish to do bareback sex (BBBJ is a given. If a "SB" doesn't, she's probably a pro) and / or anal. In my limited experience, POTs have specifically said so at the M&G (usually diplomatically) when they don't care for the latter.[/QUOTE]100% concur on all of this. I'd add that a lot of the girls I've met don't want to think of this as "transaction" so framing the conversation like "what are you in to" works well. I think I saw someone else say say this earlier, but I always show up with recent std screenings and offer to let them see it (with personal info redacted). Almost none of them have more than glanced but I know that's helped grease the wheels some. If I'm meeting with a college student I tend to emphasize consent: ask if it's OK to give them a hug, make clear statements about wanting her to feel safe and empowered. It would be super manipulative if I didn't mean it. But consent has been re-framed as "sexy" in recent years.

So, yeah. Don't approach this lIke a BP encounter. The closest experiences I cam draw on is how Charity Bangs runs her meets or a shorter tinder date.

Any Intel on Scarlett fever in CH? She's de-emphasized her face in pics and the language makes her almost sound more open. Thought I'd see if any of you have experience.

[QUOTE=Righton1960;3360269]Any Intel on Scarlett fever in CH? She's de-emphasized her face in pics and the language makes her almost sound more open. Thought I'd see if any of you have experience.[/QUOTE]I don's see a scarlet fever in CH on SA.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3362574]I don's see a scarlet fever in CH on SA.[/QUOTE]Stormy,

He probably means this one:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/850050d5-8769-4f8f-ae1b-94bd9c6e852b[/URL]

I couldn't find it by searching but ran across it when I was browsing the Raleigh area profiles tonight.

RWA

[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3369546]Stormy,

He probably means this one:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/850050d5-8769-4f8f-ae1b-94bd9c6e852b[/URL]

I couldn't find it by searching but ran across it when I was browsing the Raleigh area profiles tonight.

RWA[/QUOTE]Yep, sorry. I replied to stort directly but forgot to say so here. I messaged her but she never replied. She's on all the time so I presume I wasn't to her liking and moved on.

A recent number I got turned out to be a thread that linked at least 4, maybe more local SBs as all friends. It might be worth noting so you don't get caught up in anything messy while messaging POTs that are (apparently as she admitted to me via text) hanging out at the time. The up side is some will connect with others, so doubles are on the table.

PM me for the details.

Anyone seen this one? K_jayyyy.

Threesome potential here, listed in Greensboro, but are from Burlington. A bit on the higher end of the allowance scale, very direct and straight forward communication. I'm a little reluctant.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3370903]Anyone seen this one? K_jayyyy.

Threesome potential here, listed in Greensboro, but are from Burlington. A bit on the higher end of the allowance scale, very direct and straight forward communication. I'm a little reluctant.[/QUOTE]She got pissed at me when I turned down her out of the blue suggestion that we "meet tonight. ".

Also, I've noticed a wave of steadily increasing expectations. Coming out of the gate at a minimum of $$ sometimes $$ higher. Are they all back-channel communicating about us? Hah.

[QUOTE=Tomas247;3317807]Do you guys even bother with the girls who have written in their profiles that they have no desire for a sexual arrangement? I tend to not even bother with them, but I'm starting to wonder if I should.[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same thing.

I'm brand new to this game and feel like using WYP might be worth it. I've set up my profile to pretty much explain exactly what I'm looking for and expecting as opposed to just meeting together or a lunch or meal. I didn't spell out specifically what I want, but I worded it so that I'm basically looking for some fun between two consenting adults over a glass a of wine that might result in a pillow fight. I've received two offers so far, but I've never used the site, so I'm a little unsure of how it works. If anyone could PM me and fill me in with suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. How does it all work? If they send me an offer and I accept it, do I then have to pay credits to be able to chat?

Another question I wondered about was that I read where the WYP site advises to give 50% of the date donation in the beginning and the remainder at the end of the date. Are the ladies typically ok with that? I guess I just need some pointers on how to approach using that site. Does Uncle LEO use that site? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=Righton1960;3370995]She got pissed at me when I turned down her out of the blue suggestion that we "meet tonight. ".

Also, I've noticed a wave of steadily increasing expectations. Coming out of the gate at a minimum of $$ sometimes $$ higher. Are they all back-channel communicating about us? Hah.[/QUOTE]Yes, willing to meet immediately and no small talk made me suspicious. Claims they will do and be into just about anything, but I've got a nose for TGTBT. Maybe not, that is why I was hoping someone has seen them. And you $$ for both? Hell, that would be great. I'm way above that in our special talks. LOL.

Sorry, that should have been four $s and then add two more to that. Like, a bunch of them. Maybe I just look like a mark, or some high rollers have moved to town recently.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3371219]Yes, willing to meet immediately and no small talk made me suspicious. Claims they will do and be into just about anything, but I've got a nose for TGTBT. Maybe not, that is why I was hoping someone has seen them. And you $$ for both? Hell, that would be great. I'm way above that in our special talks. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3371219]Yes, willing to meet immediately and no small talk made me suspicious. Claims they will do and be into just about anything, but I've got a nose for TGTBT. Maybe not, that is why I was hoping someone has seen them. And you $$ for both? Hell, that would be great. I'm way above that in our special talks. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yea was one of those types who just messages out of nowhere " free tonight?" No face pics is always suspicious for me.

Anyone have any intel on this person? SpicyGelatin. Exchanged a few messages, appears to be a big time rookie, says doing it for concert tickets and some guy scammed her before by saying she'd get an allowance, but blocked her.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b60794e7-d3ab-4989-91cc-a8f587b89d00[/URL]

[QUOTE=Aswerty9111;3371463]Yea was one of those types who just messages out of nowhere " free tonight?" No face pics is always suspicious for me.

Anyone have any intel on this person? SpicyGelatin. Exchanged a few messages, appears to be a big time rookie, says doing it for concert tickets and some guy scammed her before by saying she'd get an allowance, but blocked her.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b60794e7-d3ab-4989-91cc-a8f587b89d00[/URL][/QUOTE]Ohh and avoid this person, total fake pics. Person here had a proifle before, probably got reported so created a new one.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8c144a55-ebfd-4663-bd7d-1ef982152238[/URL]

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3370903]Anyone seen this one? K_jayyyy.

Threesome potential here, listed in Greensboro, but are from Burlington. A bit on the higher end of the allowance scale, very direct and straight forward communication. I'm a little reluctant.[/QUOTE]Yeah she wanted threesome with me as well. I rejected because not a good idea to have threesome when it is the first time you are meeting.

[QUOTE=ManishRaleigh;3372481]Yeah she wanted threesome with me as well. I rejected because not a good idea to have threesome when it is the first time you are meeting.[/QUOTE]Oh really Manish haha. I have done it several times and would highly recommend it for those who can handle an fmf. Just sayin'.

Any intel on this one please:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/50823f43-afc6-b016-caf7-627097621bf1[/URL]

Have an M&G tonight. She looks more like 35 (definitely not 25), so I am just half-hearted.

I am lining something up with Samantha the next few days but can't find anything on her yet. Has anyone chatted with her or better yet done an M & G / FC? Not looking to monopolize her as I am just looking for someone extra to fill in while I stay weekly with my # 1.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3377170]I am lining something up with Samantha the next few days but can't find anything on her yet. Has anyone chatted with her or better yet done an M & G / FC? Not looking to monopolize her as I am just looking for someone extra to fill in while I stay weekly with my # 1.[/QUOTE]I've messaged with her but could never actually get out of her what she actually wanted in an arrangement. She just recently messaged me after going silent for a month or so. I may try again with her to have a meet and greet.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/38725e86-051a-4739-914e-1bd99a25714b[/URL]

Careful boys she's young and tight but she tried to scam me and 5 minutes after getting to her place she said her brother was in the way. Is nobody honest anymore?

[QUOTE=FrenchAy;3383316][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/38725e86-051a-4739-914e-1bd99a25714b[/URL]

Careful boys she's young and tight but she tried to scam me and 5 minutes after getting to her place she said her brother was in the way. Is nobody honest anymore?[/QUOTE]Profile gone, do you remember the username?

[QUOTE=Aswerty9111;3383721]Profile gone, do you remember the username?[/QUOTE]I think it was Makayla D. A number. You can PM me if you want better details.

Shoot me a PM if you have any intel on Atomic Blondie or BeckyBlueEyes.

Cheers: Thresh.

Someone had PMed me about a month ago regarding HannahLove20 but I can't remember who. Indicated she was a bit unpredictable. I actually had a M & G with her and a friend of hers last October when she first started. Started off well, took them both out to lunch, but went downhill from there. They both seemed uncomfortable and I was not feeling it as a result. But now she is messaging me again through SA, I had changed my profile name and page so she does not realize we have already met (I have her digits, real name, FB, etc. She is actually FB friends with some other SBs I know.) She is a cute spinner so I am thinking about replaying this.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3388445]Someone had PMed me about a month ago regarding HannahLove20 but I can't remember who. Indicated she was a bit unpredictable. I actually had a M & G with her and a friend of hers last October when she first started. Started off well, took them both out to lunch, but went downhill from there. They both seemed uncomfortable and I was not feeling it as a result. But now she is messaging me again through SA, I had changed my profile name and page so she does not realize we have already met (I have her digits, real name, FB, etc. She is actually FB friends with some other SBs I know.) She is a cute spinner so I am thinking about replaying this.[/QUOTE]Stormy,

I went back and forth with her as well. She also invited a friend and while they claimed to be experienced, I did not get that impression from how they appeared. In my case, she was suffering from a severe case of GPS.

Cheers: Thresh.

[QUOTE=FrenchAy;3383316][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/38725e86-051a-4739-914e-1bd99a25714b[/URL]

Careful boys she's young and tight but she tried to scam me and 5 minutes after getting to her place she said her brother was in the way. Is nobody honest anymore?[/QUOTE]Definitely a scammer. Now on her 3rd profile, she wants to connect and talks a lot about all the things she wants to do sexually. Except she'll ONLY meet at her place, and only late at night. Also, the "brother she sometimes stays with" is her boyfriend (And maybe "pimp".

I didn't fall for it, and sincerely hope no one else will or has either.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3388445]Someone had PMed me about a month ago regarding HannahLove20 but I can't remember who. Indicated she was a bit unpredictable. I actually had a M & G with her and a friend of hers last October when she first started. Started off well, took them both out to lunch, but went downhill from there. They both seemed uncomfortable and I was not feeling it as a result. But now she is messaging me again through SA, I had changed my profile name and page so she does not realize we have already met (I have her digits, real name, FB, etc. She is actually FB friends with some other SBs I know.) She is a cute spinner so I am thinking about replaying this.[/QUOTE]I know this girl, I met her when she was 18. I did an I'd check with her, I when out with her and her friend for dinner. Great M / G dinner which was a lot of fun. The next night she messages me needing money for her phone, yeah, right. She was unstable and need money for a fix. She got pissed when I wouldn't sent money that night. A week later she was in rehab. I believe she has been there a few times.

The good part is I when out with her better looking friend, who had another friend which were great dates with both of them.

My advice, move on with this one, she has demons, and not a SB.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3388445]Someone had PMed me about a month ago regarding HannahLove20 but I can't remember who. Indicated she was a bit unpredictable. I actually had a M & G with her and a friend of hers last October when she first started. Started off well, took them both out to lunch, but went downhill from there. They both seemed uncomfortable and I was not feeling it as a result. But now she is messaging me again through SA, I had changed my profile name and page so she does not realize we have already met (I have her digits, real name, FB, etc. She is actually FB friends with some other SBs I know.) She is a cute spinner so I am thinking about replaying this.[/QUOTE]FYI, she has been at this for years, she keeps changing profiles.

[QUOTE=Raltime;3388913]I know this girl, I met her when she was 18. I did an I'd check with her, I when out with her and her friend for dinner. Great M / G dinner which was a lot of fun. The next night she messages me needing money for her phone, yeah, right. She was unstable and need money for a fix. She got pissed when I wouldn't sent money that night. A week later she was in rehab. I believe she has been there a few times.

The good part is I when out with her better looking friend, who had another friend which were great dates with both of them.

My advice, move on with this one, she has demons, and not a SB.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the extra perspective. I will PM you with the humorous ending to this story.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3389634]Thanks for the extra perspective. I will PM you with the humorous ending to this story.[/QUOTE]Stormy PM me also as I've had some communication with her as well.

I messaged with her a few months ago but she disappeared after I shared my picture. Nice to know that I have a face even a junkie doesn't want!

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3389634]Thanks for the extra perspective. I will PM you with the humorous ending to this story.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone seen this girl?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4a382f7b-93da-457d-b7e7-bce438756b39[/URL]

I'm posting this experience here because there is no sugar discussion thread in Oregon or Portland. I wanted to see what other monger daddies thought of what happened to me last night. I've been seeing woman from SA for years, not new to the bowl, and have never been so sketched out.

Red flag 1: Her profile is over 2 years old, yet she is currently 19. [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06feb678-fac5-a515-e22c-b7b521e6f44e[/URL].

A profile with very hot pics 'favorited me' and after a few messages on SA we are texting. Her story is that her car got impounded yesterday and she needs money. She also said that her phone service is cut off and she can only text via a hotspot. She asked about allowance and I told her that I'm good for 200 if we play. She accepted. We agree to meet at 8:30 pm in front of a business that is open late into the evening. I'll pick her up and drive her back to my place.

She kept delaying the meet. Saying that she is doing her makeup, smoking weed, going to the bathroom, yada yada. Finally around 9 pm she is ready and I drive to the location. I arrive and park about 200' from the agreed upon business in an adjacent lot with view of the business entrance and parking lot. More delays from her.

Red flag 2: While waiting for her she continually asked for what my car make / color was, yet I told her to meet on the sidewalk in front of the business. Also, while waiting for her she asked for my photos again. I had shared my private pics with her on SA and I texted her the same pics hours ago. WTF?

Finally at about 10 pm she says that she walking over from the motel that is accross the street.

Reg flag 3: Why is a hot 19 yo in a motel on a Thursday night. I frequent the local provider boards and she is not a local ho, I would know.

I'm watching the lot and business front from my car, no girl has walked up, but a large white van with dark tinted windows pulls into the business' lot, parking across numerous parking spots. The passenger side and sliding doors open up but nobody gets out. 30 seconds after the van parked she texted me saying I'm here. I wait and watch for another minute or two. There is no girl in sight and still nobody has gotten out of the van. Too many negatives where adding up. I bolted.

Is the profile a punk kid fucking with people and the van was coincidence? Was it an LE set up? Is the profile attempting to rob guys in parking lots? Is the profile and girl real, just a super stoned girl? Am I just being paranoid?

Still scratching my head over this.