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[QUOTE=SimpleHuman;5213002]Personally I don't think there is a cookie cutter answer to your questions. I know what you're trying to find out and the best thing I can tell you is that it depends. Some will want a paid meet and greet. Some will be more reasonable and be okay if you just paid for the food and drinks. Some won't need a meet and greet at all. The negotiation is a wild card. You have to stumble through that yourself to figure out what works for you.

Do I hang out with the lady outside of the bedroom? I have with some. It depends on what your relationship is like. Same with the last two questions. It depends.

Just remember that it's not an escort site.[/QUOTE]I do understand that it's not really an escort site. The problem is that it's not really a dating site either. Of course, maintaining maximum shades of gray and plausible deniability has an upside too. I have lurked enough here and there to feel like I know (mostly) how things worked pre-pandemic, but normal isn't so normal these days, hence the inquiry.

At any rate, thanks for the info.

Are there any more pearls of wisdom folks care to share?

[QUOTE=Uffitze;5212527]Hey fellas.

Particularly during this pandemic, what is your experience with Seeking like?

- Do ya'all still do meet'and'greets? In other words, what does the vetting / negotiation process look like?

- Do you date / hang out with your ladies outside of the home / bedroom?

- As a corollary, what are the ladies' expectations in this regard?

- Is there a typical financial consideration?[/QUOTE]Bouncing off what was said below, be clear about expectations. Some women assume you'll pay them just for a meet-and-greet, and some are happy to make it a simple date the first time around. Be upfront and ask what their expectations are before meeting. One of my most uncomfortable situations happened when I didn't do as much.

Most women on SA want an allowance and a rigid structure on how much time you spend with them. Some don't have a concern about how you want to spend your time, and others want it to be a lot more like dating than a FWB. Again, be clear and ask questions until you get a clear picture of what she's looking for.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8429768b-34d8-407a-a617-344b061c98f4[/URL]

I don't mind leaving a link for this one. Another one who will never meet. Promises the world. Says she likes to start her arrangements with a paid video and then you can come pick her up for some "real" fun.

You know something's wrong when they don't even ask to see your pics before they start making promises.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3e9ed041-e744-48ad-b4a8-cc768d0ff8e8[/URL]

She comes off as very nice and chill at first, she will even give it up for you, but when you let your guard down and take a shower. She will clean your place out of anything valuable. Then you find all the personal info she gave you is bogus and even her Instagram page is a shell. However, this site has mostly been really good to me, I have some names of worthwhile girls I am pretty much finished up with but could be new and fun to someone else. If you have something to trade that'd be welcome too.

[QUOTE=PnwPdxMan;5272335][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3e9ed041-e744-48ad-b4a8-cc768d0ff8e8[/URL]

She comes off as very nice and chill at first, she will even give it up for you, but when you let your guard down and take a shower. She will clean your place out of anything valuable. Then you find all the personal info she gave you is bogus and even her Instagram page is a shell. However, this site has mostly been really good to me, I have some names of worthwhile girls I am pretty much finished up with but could be new and fun to someone else. If you have something to trade that'd be welcome too.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the alert. Helpful to all of us.

So, I've been paying attention to the other Portland forums, but I have really been paying attention to this one as much as I should be, and I might have myself a sugar baby.

Quick question: What are the red flags I should look out for so that I don't end up robbed? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.

[QUOTE=RamblinJavlin;5277747]So, I've been paying attention to the other Portland forums, but I have really been paying attention to this one as much as I should be, and I might have myself a sugar baby.

Quick question: What are the red flags I should look out for so that I don't end up robbed? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Anytime you bring someone home there is a risk. I keep my wallet in the safe and just have cash and my I'd for things like that.

Start with the simple things, do multiple searches on her name. If things don't check out ask why, if the explanation doesn't check. Put just walk. I lost a couple thousand to a sugar baby that was a bad liar but the pussy was so good I didn't want to believe what I was seeing.

[QUOTE=RamblinJavlin;5277747]So, I've been paying attention to the other Portland forums, but I have really been paying attention to this one as much as I should be, and I might have myself a sugar baby.

Quick question: What are the red flags I should look out for so that I don't end up robbed? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.[/QUOTE]If you have a 'sugar baby' my advice is be upfront about terms.

Be clear that you're able to provide $x for x-visits per month / week / whatever, and she agrees that xyz is involved. All to often, guys end up being taken advantage of. Sometimes it's innocent because things just flow and you don't really worry about it much, but some girls are trying to squeeze you. It's just better to be clear about expectations, for both of you.

[QUOTE=Mizunate;5279144]If you have a 'sugar baby' my advice is be upfront about terms.

Be clear that you're able to provide $x for x-visits per month / week / whatever, and she agrees that xyz is involved. All to often, guys end up being taken advantage of. Sometimes it's innocent because things just flow and you don't really worry about it much, but some girls are trying to squeeze you. It's just better to be clear about expectations, for both of you.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Because things are moving along fairly fast, and so far terms have been defined, but no set amount.

I am a newbie here. I have some experience in TandA but lately the standards are going downhill and no longer fun. So I am looking at other options and found out about these two websites: seeking. Com and secretbenefits. Com and this thread. I need the experts help on which one is better. Feel free to DM me if you would like to discuss in private. I'll be happy to share any info about my other encounters in return.

SA (SeekingArrangement).

- has a monthly subscription.

- lot of active members in Portland area. Are all those real profiles or is the website creating any bots kind of profiles to attract new subs?

- many members are fb / insta verified.

- I am thinking to try a 1 month subscription and talk to members and get their contact info. Question is are the members really active and respond to messages?

- Any tips to identify the fake profiles in this website?

- Do you guys upload profile photos or send photos only when you get a response? With the subscription, I can send messages without a profile photo but wondering if I will get any responses because the SB's might think it is a flake.

SB (SecretBenefits).

- credits based subscription.

- Subscription model looks very good because the credits never expire.

- After few days of signup, I received a lot of admirers. Is this all fake and the website bot is doing these to attract new subs?

- There is very less info (only mandatory fields) on my profile and no profile photos. But received a lot of messages from many SB's and requires credits to see the message content. Is it worth seeing those messages for credits or are those messages auto generated by bots?

- Any tips to identify the fake profiles in this website?

[QUOTE=TPhilips123;5280967]I am a newbie here. I have some experience in TandA but lately the standards are going downhill and no longer fun. So I am looking at other options and found out about these two websites: seeking. Com and secretbenefits. Com and this thread. I need the experts help on which one is better. Feel free to DM me if you would like to discuss in private. I'll be happy to share any info about my other encounters in return.

SA (SeekingArrangement).

- has a monthly subscription.

- lot of active members in Portland area. Are all those real profiles or is the website creating any bots kind of profiles to attract new subs?[/QUOTE]I don't have any experience with SB but from what I've heard, SA gets better results for the money. It is expensive though. And there are a lot of fake profiles to weed through. But I'm thinking that's true with both sites. They're pretty easy to figure out though.

There are a lot of girls in the area who are active on SA. From shy introverts to boisterous party girls. Just remember, regardless of what is actually happening or being discussed, they don't want to be treated like an escort.

I've been hanging out with the same woman for over a year now. Any other long termers?

[QUOTE=SimpleHuman;5287501]I don't have any experience with SB but from what I've heard, SA gets better results for the money. It is expensive though. And there are a lot of fake profiles to weed through. But I'm thinking that's true with both sites. They're pretty easy to figure out though.

There are a lot of girls in the area who are active on SA. From shy introverts to boisterous party girls. Just remember, regardless of what is actually happening or being discussed, they don't want to be treated like an escort.[/QUOTE]Escorts. If a woman expects money in return for her time with you (sexually or not) then she's an escort. If she fucks you in return for that money, she's a prostitute. They can try to euphemize their way around it with words like "companion" all they want but they can't hide from the truth about what they are when they engage in pay-for-play activities. Don't allow yourself to be fooled into thinking otherwise.

I have a buddy on SB as he got the boot from SA and says it's sucks. I use SA and travel four different states and it is a gold mine for pussy, but I also have some game, and fun to hang out with and semi good looking.

I know this is true as the girls I pay to fuck tell me so.

[QUOTE=TPhilips123;5280967]I am a newbie here. I have some experience in TandA but lately the standards are going downhill and no longer fun. So I am looking at other options and found out about these two websites: seeking. Com and secretbenefits. Com and this thread. I need the experts help on which one is better. Feel free to DM me if you would like to discuss in private. I'll be happy to share any info about my other encounters in return.

SA (SeekingArrangement).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MeeLikeeAsians;5293691]Escorts. If a woman expects money in return for her time with you (sexually or not) then she's an escort. If she fucks you in return for that money, she's a prostitute. They can try to euphemize their way around it with words like "companion" all they want but they can't hide from the truth about what they are when they engage in pay-for-play activities. Don't allow yourself to be fooled into thinking otherwise.[/QUOTE]You definitely have to keep your wits about you and not fool yourself into think there's something there that's not. I have newly acquired my first SB, and it looks like it'll be long term. She's sweet and very affectionate, but I take everything she says with a load of skepticism.

As far as whether or not it's worth it: only time will tell.