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[QUOTE=Crism080;4654740]A girl like Nina is making around 8-9 k a week. The average punter in this forum makes that in 3 months.

I get your point about the tipping, but I would say the average person on this site makes much more than $32 to $36,000 a year. No way someone making in that range has the ability to fork out $260 to see kgirls on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]That would be about 50 to 60 customers a week or eight to nine customers a day at the percent of the donation that they keep. I don't think anyone is putting in those kind of hours. I know I've spoken to some girls who have said they have had as many as 10 customers in a day but not near that on a regular basis. If they take any more than their 15 minute break between customers and have something to eat to sustain their energy there wouldn't be enough hours in the day. Even Nina.

[QUOTE=SteveJoe;4654650]Can you tell me who's offer BBFS CAUSE I CHECK AND I DON'T WHO OFFER BBFS.[/QUOTE]If you don't know then you probably aren't known to those bookers and will not get a response from them.

[QUOTE=Crism080;4654740]A girl like Nina is making around 8-9 k a week. The average punter in this forum makes that in 3 months.

I get your point about the tipping, but I would say the average person on this site makes much more than $32 to $36,000 a year. No way someone making in that range has the ability to fork out $260 to see kgirls on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]Well, if our price is 220. I wouldn't have to visit the bay often.

[QUOTE=Toungsten;4655090]If you don't know then you probably aren't known to those bookers and will not get a response from them.[/QUOTE] Meanwhile, props to noobs initiating themselves by TOFTT, or simply sharing more information than they ask.

[QUOTE=Crism080;4654740]A girl like Nina is making around 8-9 k a week. The average punter in this forum makes that in 3 months.

I get your point about the tipping, but I would say the average person on this site makes much more than $32 to $36,000 a year. No way someone making in that range has the ability to fork out $260 to see kgirls on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]I make around 200 k a year have private delights I get 2 of them a week, then mix in BBFS 3 times a week don't tip anyone they doing there job just because I like a specific chick all it means she gets a second meeting that's her tip. Come on newbies. They blowing and acting nice to everyone that's there job hello!

The price of gas, a plane ticket, and food is more than 40 for a trip to the Bay. I get keeping prices down, but if you can afford 250, then plus or minus 20 shouldn't break the bank. You'd only see a difference after 12 trips.

[QUOTE=RawrHard;4655692]The price of gas, a plane ticket, and food is more than 40 for a trip to the Bay. I get keeping prices down, but if you can afford 250, then plus or minus 20 shouldn't break the bank. You'd only see a difference after 12 trips.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the price hike? The price difference right now we talking about is 50 to 100 dollars good sir. Not a measly plus or minus 20. LOL. Some girls charging 300 to 350 so trip to Bay area still better. For me at least. Girls prices there are cheaper also, 180 to 240 at most. Plus you get to see sites of Frisco. Just went there last year and had wide variety of girls to choose from. All below 250.

I think some of you guys have it all wrong on the tipping. If you have extra money and had a good time with a provider, what's so hard about forking out extra cash to show appreciation? It's american culture to tip. Of course, if you have a below average time with a below average girl I don't think there is a need to tip. But if you had a better than average time with a cute girl and have cash to spend, then I say tip the girl to keep them happy and help keep them working in LA.

[QUOTE=LastCall;4654195]Good information, I have been pissing money away with tips that are totally disregarded. I doubt they will ever list "gratuity included" for punters like me. In some countries tipping is even an insult, but in places like Thailand everybody has their hand out. I really thought 15 to 20 percent was standard here so thanks for straightening me out! Whether it's true or not, according to wick the reasons for tipping are.

Showing off.

To supplement the server's income and make them happy.

For improved future service.

To avoid disapproval from the server.

A sense of duty.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimThome;4657315]I think some of you guys have it all wrong on the tipping. If you have extra money and had a good time with a provider, what's so hard about forking out extra cash to show appreciation? It's american culture to tip. Of course, if you have a below average time with a below average girl I don't think there is a need to tip. But if you had a better than average time with a cute girl and have cash to spend, then I say tip the girl to keep them happy and help keep them working in LA.[/QUOTE]I always said tipping is for low wage earners. Waiters and waitresses, delivery boys, etc. Not for someone making $150/ hour. Do we tip our doctors, dentists or lawyers for doing a good job? A $20 tip for someone making over $150/ hour could be looked at as insulting at worst or inconsequential at best.

[QUOTE=JimThome;4657315]I think some of you guys have it all wrong on the tipping. If you have extra money and had a good time with a provider, what's so hard about forking out extra cash to show appreciation? It's american culture to tip. Of course, if you have a below average time with a below average girl I don't think there is a need to tip. But if you had a better than average time with a cute girl and have cash to spend, then I say tip the girl to keep them happy and help keep them working in LA.[/QUOTE]My man over here the hi roller I'm talking about. Hey, like I said more power to you if you making them big bucks. For me though, I'd spend that tip with another girl if I could. Just like previous poster mentioned though, I thinks tips are more for the waitresses, bellboys, car washers. I categorize escorts as dentists and doctors cause they already making the big bucks. As a side note, most kgirls tour. So they be travelling in and out of LA whether you tip them or not.

[QUOTE=Toungsten;4657441]could be looked at as insulting at worst or inconsequential at best[/QUOTE]However we may think that the girls will see at the notion of receiving a tip, no one would mind extra $. Especially these girls. If mongers can do it, so be it, their prerogative. Hope they are ready for when standard rates go much higher for not better service and mediocre looking girls.

[QUOTE=Toungsten;4657441]I always said tipping is for low wage earners. Waiters and waitresses, delivery boys, etc. Not for someone making $150/ hour. Do we tip our doctors, dentists or lawyers for doing a good job? A $20 tip for someone making over $150/ hour could be looked at as insulting at worst or inconsequential at best.[/QUOTE]If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit. TBH, I rather you not tip so there's less likelihood of more diseased cocks all up in these chicks. Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.

Nothing against tipping but to those that complain about price increases or get mad at those who can afford to tip, you guys sound like cheap fucks and that shit makes you weak as shit. Save up to see your favorite girl, find someone cheaper or get yourself another hobby altogether. And to those complaining about the price discrepancy between LA and SF and how it's cheaper over there, that there is more suppose BB and whatever dick sucking praise you give to the orgs operating there, move your ass up to that City and stay there if it means that much.

[QUOTE=KGirlAddict;4657651]If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit.Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KGirlAddict;4657651]If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit.Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]None of the above make the $150 and more per hour and more that a provider makes. Add to that my personal experience and it has been rare for a good number of years that I would have to use a cover. Just saying.

[QUOTE=KGirlAddict;4657651]If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit. Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]That's a long rant about tipping LOL. So for short, tipping to you is a sense of duty for extra service kinda like what I said about nuru menu. Aight. I get what you saying. Like I said though. Not many have deep pockets as you. The problem of tipping right now is it justifies the these agencies to hike their prices. Well as you mentioned agree to disagree. My main point and some others here is that tipping have high chance of driving cost up, which is happening already. In any case, as long as their are alternatives like Bay area and OC, I'm good.