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[QUOTE=HappyEnding20;1648111]Thanks for the advice HollywoodGuy. I just signed up today. Let me ask you do you usually talk about the amount before a M&G? I use to waste a lot of time meeting women on CL in person and not mentioning cash before. Then when I would say $ they immediately got turned off and left.[/QUOTE]I always get the price down immediately or the rest would or could be a waste of time. Usually get it all confirmed the first day. My biggest problem lately is location. The burbs are rockin but I am in hollywood, Tonite I went with my home girl in k-town for. 6 for the works. I can pick her up in under 10 minutes. I hate driving as I work from home. If I was willing to go 30 to 45 minutes I can get a lot more action. But to get back to the point, just get to the point with these girls as fast as possible. I never ask for FS on the first date, but get it most of the time.
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[QUOTE=HappyEnding20; 1648104]Thanks for the advice SubCmdr. I just signed up this morning. What do you mean by developing a intro letter? You mean when you first message someone? Also, do you usually try to do a M&G right away or do you just e-mail them first back and forth for a couple weeks until they're comfortable?
Also, do you have a picture up? For me, I want to be as discreet as possible. I don't want my picture going around. Do you think these ladies care?[/QUOTE]Girls want to see your pic. If you can't do that you are killing your chances. A BP girl could care less. But a non pro at $ does care.
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Small World
Hit Dog Rice's SB1
Sexy Body,
Great Attitude. After the first bust in her mouth she asked "How did that feel?" When getting ready for FS she tells me: "You can do anything to me. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it". After second bust in her mouth and I'm screaming "Oh Fuck!". She says "I like to hear that."
Flaky on schedule (child care issues)
DFK, FS, BBBJCIMWS x 2;
Excellent Skills, Sexy Body; Great Attitude; Value: Priceless
Available in SD North County & OC.
YMMV. PM for details.
SubCmdr out!
[QUOTE=Dog Rice; 1646354]Want to report and share some of my experience after been in the Sugar Bowl for 3 months.
SB1. MILF and no show for twice. I tried one more time, and it got paid off pretty good. At the end of the 1st meeting, she was BBBJCIMWS in my car. .40 2nd meeting, met her in a motel. CFS-like a dead fish. .2nd shot. BBBJCIMWS was awesome. Since is too far way from me, and FS is not that great, and she can't host (I can't host) , so cut her loose.
SB2. Late-20s blonde with awesome coke bottle figure. She can host (awesome). For the first several meetings, she did not want any sugar. Gave me BBBJCIM DT (Super). No swallow though. Later, she needs $, so I offer $ per week. Deal. Is still going strong with her (1 month now).
SB3. Young blonde. M&G back 2 months ago and still not able to get our first meet. Just before the scheduled date, always come up with excuse. Is still talking with her, but (as how Cmdr mentored me, don't let SBs impact me.) I just play along with her and see whether I can really get together with her.
There are other one-time non-repeater SBs, but not worth to mention here.
Still learning a lot of from Cmdr. The respond rate I am getting from Sugar Bowl is still very low (<1%). (definitely lower than Cmdr even in the same city, San Diego). From my experience, seems that SDFM has a bit higher respond rate than SA. (just me of course) [/QUOTE]
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Striking out
Well, I went through the site messaging about 20 girls. There were 5 that responded. Only 2 of them gave me their numbers. Here's what happened:
SB1: She was a 18 year old african american girl. We messaged each other back and forth and I think we had good chemistry. She asked for a pic so I sent her my pics. We agreed to meet this morning. Well, I wake up this morning to see in my inbox that she doesn't want to meet tomorrow. She says it's not her and she can't go through with it. .
SB2: This girl was pretty hot. I would say probably a 9. I probably should've known she would accept more than $ for her time. Well we messaged each other back and forth. We agreed to meet this afternoon. I was reading some of the Richmond threads and this thread and decided to ask what compensation she was expecting. I didn't want to waste my time driving so I offered $. She messaged me back saying she is use to more from other daddies. So I stopped messaing her.
Now my question is this the right approach for SB2. Should I have asked her right away so I don't waste my time?
Thanks for all your help. Especially to Subcmdr and Hollywoodguy.
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[QUOTE=HappyEnding20; 1649310]Well, I went through the site messaging about 20 girls. There were 5 that responded. Only 2 of them gave me their numbers. Here's what happened:
SB1: She was a 18 year old african american girl. We messaged each other back and forth and I think we had good chemistry. She asked for a pic so I sent her my pics. We agreed to meet this morning. Well, I wake up this morning to see in my inbox that she doesn't want to meet tomorrow. She says it's not her and she can't go through with it. .
SB2: This girl was pretty hot. I would say probably a 9. I probably should've known she would accept more than $ for her time. Well we messaged each other back and forth. We agreed to meet this afternoon. I was reading some of the Richmond threads and this thread and decided to ask what compensation she was expecting. I didn't want to waste my time driving so I offered $. She messaged me back saying she is use to more from other daddies. So I stopped messaing her.
Now my question is this the right approach for SB2. Should I have asked her right away so I don't waste my time?
Thanks for all your help. Especially to Subcmdr and Hollywoodguy.[/QUOTE]I always always always get the price agreed upon upfront. Don't always get what I want on a first date. And sometimes get a lot more. Its a mixed bag. But worth it to me. Sometimes they are pros. Many times I am the first one. And everything in between. Once you have a few regulars it gets easier. When you have less desperation. LOL. Try messaging about 15 a week for the best results. That should get you at least one new girl a week. Thats 50 girls a year. 2 to 3 regulars should come out of that. At least. Those are very conservative estimates
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[QUOTE=HappyEnding20; 1649310]Well, I went through the site messaging about 20 girls. There were 5 that responded. Only 2 of them gave me their numbers. Here's what happened:
SB1: She was a 18 year old african american girl. We messaged each other back and forth and I think we had good chemistry. She asked for a pic so I sent her my pics. We agreed to meet this morning. Well, I wake up this morning to see in my inbox that she doesn't want to meet tomorrow. She says it's not her and she can't go through with it. .
SB2: This girl was pretty hot. I would say probably a 9. I probably should've known she would accept more than $ for her time. Well we messaged each other back and forth. We agreed to meet this afternoon. I was reading some of the Richmond threads and this thread and decided to ask what compensation she was expecting. I didn't want to waste my time driving so I offered $. She messaged me back saying she is use to more from other daddies. So I stopped messaing her.
Now my question is this the right approach for SB2. Should I have asked her right away so I don't waste my time?
Thanks for all your help. Especially to Subcmdr and Hollywoodguy.[/QUOTE]Also. A strikeout just puts you one swing closer to a homerun. And no one hits a home run everytime at bat. Thats why I just try to get on base for a first date and then go from there. I remember going to a m & g once at a starbucks and giving the girl. 4. All we did was talk and I was thinking this was a waste of time. 3 days later she calls me and tells me she thinks I. M hot. After that it turns out she will literally do anything I want for $. Probably did her 10 times after that before I moved on. So was my original. 4 a waste of time?
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1648959]Girls want to see your pic. If you can't do that you are killing your chances. A BP girl could care less. But a non pro at $ does care.[/QUOTE]I think it's understandable that some guys are going to be sensitive about their pic circulating, especially with tineye prowling. What I did was search until I found a similar-looking guy (portraits of white middle aged guys are easy to find) and I photoshopped it a bit to sandbag tineye, then I send that out. No one has said "hey you don't look like your pic!" and no one can trace that image back to any of my ON-the-radar accounts.
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SB1 Info Request
Trickin,
Clear your mailbox out.
SubCmdr out!
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I ike the photoshop idea
[QUOTE=Willie23;1650832]I think it's understandable that some guys are going to be sensitive about their pic circulating, especially with tineye prowling. What I did was search until I found a similar-looking guy (portraits of white middle aged guys are easy to find) and I photoshopped it a bit to sandbag tineye, then I send that out. No one has said "hey you don't look like your pic!" and no one can trace that image back to any of my ON-the-radar accounts.[/QUOTE]SD4ME won't let me put this generic pic I had as my main pic anymore
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Picture
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1651277]SD4ME won't let me put this generic pic I had as my main pic anymore[/QUOTE]When ever I am asked, as an old white guy, I say I look like Ben Franklin, usually works, if not, to bad, other fish in the sea for me.
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[QUOTE=HappyEnding20; 1649310]SB2: This girl was pretty hot. I would say probably a 9. I probably should've known she would accept more than $ for her time. Well we messaged each other back and forth. We agreed to meet this afternoon. I was reading some of the Richmond threads and this thread and decided to ask what compensation she was expecting. I didn't want to waste my time driving so I offered $. She messaged me back saying she is use to more from other daddies. So I stopped messaing her.
Now my question is this the right approach for SB2. Should I have asked her right away so I don't waste my time?
Thanks for all your help. Especially to Subcmdr and Hollywoodguy.[/QUOTE]The problem is you're treating her like an escort, when she's not an escort.
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Typical Response
Girl sends me a kiss on SD4ME. I send $ offer. Here is her response.
"Thank you I appreciate you going into details I'm completely on board with everything and I'm serious about meeting so I would prefer to call or text if that is possible? Also I agree with the arangement you have laid out but I hope it gets past that (:."
Meaning past the $ offer for a play date.... she is 19 and cute... not a prom queen but very doable. So bing bang and it's done. I could get one new one a day if i had the time or money. Usually get a few a week and make it to one new girl a week. With 4 regulars thats about all i can handle. But my pipeline is built up. This approach by far gets me the most positive responses.
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Don't sign up for SD4m!
Because if you do and you don't have the following experience, then I would feel terrible that I recommended the site to you.
I stumbled upon a 24/26 year old bisexual couple. They are both smoking hot solid 8's. Lipstick lesbians. Revealing outfits and four and five inch heels respectively. They decided they needed some money and some real dick. We had some conversation over wine. I told them, I felt more of a connection with the 26 year old, but I'd really like to have them both. They were like "let's go upstairs". Best threesome I've ever had in my life! And I've had a lot of threesomes. It's amazing the difference when the women are truly bisexual and into each other. It was a full on three hole affair with nothing off limits. Real kissing, pussy licking and orgasms all the way around. In fact, I made a real connection with the 26 year old. We took her partner home after round one and she came back to continue play time and spend the night. She is coming back over tonight sans partner. Chemistry is everything gentlemen. Don't ever discount it.
Now this was a pair of true sugar babies. They told me what their needs were before playtime. But said "we will not ask for money or tell you an amount because that would make us prostitutes. A Sugar Daddy gives what he wants to give." They get it. And even better I do too.
Chief of the Boat."Prepare to Dive."
SubCmdr Out!
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1652718]Girl sends me a kiss on SD4ME. I send $ offer. Here is her response.
"Thank you I appreciate you going into details I'm completely on board with everything and I'm serious about meeting so I would prefer to call or text if that is possible? Also I agree with the arangement you have laid out but I hope it gets past that (:."
Meaning past the $ offer for a play date. She is 19 and cute. Not a prom queen but very doable. So bing bang and it's done. I could get one new one a day if I had the time or money. Usually get a few a week and make it to one new girl a week. With 4 regulars thats about all I can handle. But my pipeline is built up. This approach by far gets me the most positive responses.[/QUOTE]I need to do this to weed out the ones with unrealistic expectations, like the UCLA coed who told me she wants a "401k" hahaa.
That story on NBC about the girls getting an average of $3000 per month keeps the unrealistic expectations going, especially in So Cal.
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Sugar Daddy Sites
Well I just heard about this over the radio on KFI AM640. The website they used was seekingarrangement. Well with all these reviews I'm going to try. I got an extra 400 a month and I don't know. I want to date an 18 year old.