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[QUOTE=Smashing1979;6883863]What do you mean big change to the AMP scene?[/QUOTE]Korean AMPs have the best providers locally. They are the prettiest and best service, in my opinion, they are pulling up steaks locally because of pressure from le. I hope my source is wrong but I'm expecting one more to leave beginning tomorrow. So if you have a favorite k spa I would go today because it may not be here tomorrow. The workers don't even know. But they will be shipped elsewhere.
SN.
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6884037]Korean AMPs have the best providers locally. They are the prettiest and best service, in my opinion, they are pulling up steaks locally because of pressure from le. I hope my source is wrong but I'm expecting one more to leave beginning tomorrow. So if you have a favorite k spa I would go today because it may not be here tomorrow. The workers don't even know. But they will be shipped elsewhere.
SN.[/QUOTE]Well just come out and say it. All Green is done for.
I saw cops in their parking lot this afternoon.
[QUOTE=Smashing1979;6884051]Well just come out and say it. All Green is done for.
I saw cops in their parking lot this afternoon.[/QUOTE]Local PD is posted up in the parking lot now.
So who is still left that does FS. Is Star still going?
[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;6884279]So who is still left that does FS. Is Star still going?[/QUOTE]Stay tuned. New list coming.
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6884305]Stay tuned. New list coming.[/QUOTE]Please include street address.
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6884309]Please include street address.[/QUOTE]No. Googlemaps is your friend.
Waiting for a courtroom verdict on All Green. The jury has been deliberating for just 12 hours.
You never came back sexy girl, it breaks my heart.
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6884392]No. Googlemaps is your friend.
Waiting for a courtroom verdict on All Green. The jury has been deliberating for just 12 hours.[/QUOTE]Somebody actually went through a jury trial on this?
[QUOTE=IWannaHaveFun6;6884735]Somebody actually went through a jury trial on this?[/QUOTE]I meant the "monger jury" to confirm they are open or closed after LEO activity in the parking lot.
[QUOTE=IDime;6882535]Do anyone know of a place in the Metro Detroit Area that provides the Lingam service? Edging and Control: Where the practitioner may use techniques such as "edging," which involves bringing the recipient close to climax and then backing off, to prolong the pleasure and build arousal gradually. Looking for the provider to prove the service for and 45-90 minutes.[/QUOTE]After reading the above, I realized that I was about due to get another Lingam massage. If you have never had one, you should schedule an appointment soon. Nothing is comparable to having a very slow, meticulous, teasing of your tool. Soft fingertips working their way up and down like a clarinet player. Soft caresses of your foreskin and balls. This can last several minutes to an hour. The pleasure is incredible. The release is intense. I just booked mine for today.
https://us-detroit.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/downriver/23185609.html
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6884309]Please include street address.[/QUOTE]I would love to drive down for Star or the MH parlor tomorrow, unless I am asking for trouble.
[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;6885026]I would love to drive down for Star or the MH parlor tomorrow, unless I am asking for trouble.[/QUOTE]8 star and goldstar are Detroit. Not aware of trouble. All green is Beverly Hills. Risky.
All Care is Dearborn.
Not aware of any FS places in Madison Heights.
[QUOTE=ElectricEyes;6884399]You never came back sexy girl, it breaks my heart.[/QUOTE]Great first post. I'm sure she will respond here.
Gentlemen, it's been awhile since I've posted. Health reasons and this thing called "life" has interfered with my pursuit of debauchery and happy endings. I tried to make an appt with my go-to at Van Born and was told they were closed for "remodeling". Now anyone who has been there knows the place hasn't been remodeled since the Egyptians built the pyramids so I immediately came here to find lots of reports of LE activity and closures of some of our monger staples. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether or not Van Born has been hit as well?
Is Victoria the girl in the add? Did it sound like more than HJ was available?
[QUOTE=UltraFind77;6868192][URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/3155568[/URL]
Victoria is very pleasant 200 is steep for topless massage with HE BUT she was amazing at the massage and HE. I guess she has other girls there as well. Great area.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Telecaster;6884081]Local PD is posted up in the parking lot now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Telecaster;6884081]Local PD is posted up in the parking lot now.[/QUOTE]This is very interesting. Either a unreal coincidence or I tipped le off with my post yesterday. I was there in the morning and had a VIP experience with Soda, the provider. In getting to know her after the massage, I asked how long she would be there, she hesitated and said she would be going back to texas tomorrow. We chatted more and said "don't tell Mama but they close here tomorrow, this last day for spa. Then she asked if there were other k spas that offer FS. I said yes and she seemed surprised and asked where. So that's where my Intel came from and she stressed " don't tell Mama" on my way out.
Looks like I dodged a bullet by not going later in the day.
Stay safe mongers.
SN.
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6885143]This is very interesting. Either a unreal coincidence or I tipped le off with my post yesterday. I was there in the morning and had a VIP experience with Soda, the provider. In getting to know her after the massage, I asked how long she would be there, she hesitated and said she would be going back to texas tomorrow. We chatted more and said "don't tell Mama but they close here tomorrow, this last day for spa. Then she asked if there were other k spas that offer FS. I said yes and she seemed surprised and asked where. So that's where my Intel came from and she stressed " don't tell Mama" on my way out.
Looks like I dodged a bullet by not going later in the day..[/QUOTE]I started asking my sources. They said the girls and mamma-san got out of there before LEO stormed them. Not sure why she would stress "don't tell mamma. " They all work at the same damn place LOL. Did she want mamma to get caught and not her? And how would your provider know about the LE coming, but still be lackadaisical about it, still providing service and planning to leave the next day?
Here is another bit of info: they closed down a week because of LE but figured the heat was down and that's why they re-opened. But LE was planning to check up on them soon after, so those who went the week after they re-opened (but didn't get caught) are extremely lucky.
Something is really fishy here.
Texted for an appt and they claim they are closed for remodeling and to try back next week. Have you been there recently? Wondered if they have any new girls. Is Lily still there?
[QUOTE=CarmeloJoe35;6881006]Looks like this is closed for some reason. Anyone know the dealio?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6885055]8 star and goldstar are Detroit. Not aware of trouble. All green is Beverly Hills. Risky.
All Care is Dearborn.
Not aware of any FS places in Madison Heights.[/QUOTE]NM I found a review that was less than appealing. Any apartment or hotel FS providers active?
Maybe he thought he was on craigslist's missed connections.
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6885056]Great first post. I'm sure she will respond here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BornSinner;6880851]Recently seen this girl and had a good time. She's an AA female with a nice body. She has a goofy, fun and loving personality. She has a studio but also works out of her apartment, which is both in Southfield. Massage was topless. 120 hh and Nuru was. 180 hh. I opted for the. 120 hh just for the first visit. Sidenote, all her pictures on the page are not her, and I explained to her how that can be a red flag. She's new to this posting part but she says she's been around for over four years so just trying to figure out how to navigate so I gave her a lot of suggestions and tips. She's has potential and her prices are on the low end so get her now before it goes up. Overall I give her a 7/10 with potential. Dm with any more questions.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/169028154[/URL][/QUOTE]Tried these guys. Was at one of the tall apartment buildings near former Northland. Must be a few girls working. I drew Shy. A cute Carmel colored AA. Prices seem to range from 120--200. FS is availableavailable. Nuru was ok but not nearly long enough. Shy had rules about what could be touched etc. Even though I pays for an hour I was out in 30. I know better. Regardless cute girl with a little tummy had some fun. Might repeat at hhr if the price is right and the girl looks good. They will send a pic of your gal.
Also obviously another woman was in second bedroom. Apartment was not really furnished so I don't think anyone is staying there but could be wrong.
[QUOTE=Smashing1979;6885156]I started asking my sources. They said the girls and mamma-san got out of there before LEO stormed them. Not sure why she would stress "don't tell mamma. " They all work at the same damn place LOL. Did she want mamma to get caught and not her? And how would your provider know about the LE coming, but still be lackadaisical about it, still providing service and planning to leave the next day?
Here is another bit of info: they closed down a week because of LE but figured the heat was down and that's why they re-opened. But LE was planning to check up on them soon after, so those who went the week after they re-opened (but didn't get caught) are extremely lucky.
Something is really fishy here.[/QUOTE]Yes extremely luck is needed. That place has tons of camera in the parking at front, upon entrance and at the hallway. I'd be very worried if that place really got busted. Pretty sure LE know who you are, your plate number and why you're there.
[QUOTE=FaceSpace;6881128]I pass this place a few times a week going to work. Does anyone have any intel? Is it legit or are there extras to be had?[/QUOTE]Seen this post and wanted to stop by since I was coming from Livingston county but there was the infamous Highland Twp Deputy in the parking lot he drives the black and white Tahoe that man is all business so I kept it moving ya'll stay safe.
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6885375]Yes extremely luck is needed. That place has tons of camera in the parking at front, upon entrance and at the hallway. I'd be very worried if that place really got busted. Pretty sure LE know who you are, your plate number and why you're there.[/QUOTE]In there to get a massage at a licensed business. They can't arrest you for being there, or walking in there can they?
[QUOTE=RWhite;6885418]Seen this post and wanted to stop by since I was coming from Livingston county but there was the infamous Highland Twp Deputy in the parking lot he drives the black and white Tahoe that man is all business so I kept it moving ya'll stay safe.[/QUOTE]Are you talking the place by the Lift and old CVS or rebalance off Milford Rd? If LEO is in the driveway of rebalance that would be concerning.
[QUOTE=Softailrider;6885746]In there to get a massage at a licensed business. They can't arrest you for being there, or walking in there can they?[/QUOTE]They can call or question you why you're there. Not sure about being arrested. I stopped going few weeks ago.
But hey let's get that FS list so we can googlemaps.
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6885375]Yes extremely luck is needed. That place has tons of camera in the parking at front, upon entrance and at the hallway. I'd be very worried if that place really got busted. Pretty sure LE know who you are, your plate number and why you're there.[/QUOTE]I didn't get the impression that she knew they were getting busted. I thought she was saying that the handler (Mama's boss) didn't want mama to know that they were not going to re-open the next day. I don't think she knew what was coming. How could she know? That's why in my last post I thought, what a huge coincidence 🤔. Anyhow, stay safe out there.
SN.
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6886282]I didn't get the impression that she knew they were getting busted. I thought she was saying that the handler (Mama's boss) didn't want mama to know that they were not going to re-open the next day. I don't think she knew what was coming. How could she know? That's why in my last post I thought, what a huge coincidence 🤔. Anyhow, stay safe out there..[/QUOTE]My guess is the owner must've known the bust was coming the next day and only told the provider that it would close, nothing more, to avoid panic. However, word must've leaked that the bust would come that afternoon and that's why they got the girls and mamma out of there fast.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is why they would want to keep it from Mamma while telling only the girls. That serves no purpose at all. She would have found out within the day (and as it turns out, that afternoon) anyway so there is probably more to the story.
[QUOTE=HughJorganJk;6885139]Is Victoria the girl in the add? Did it sound like more than HJ was available?[/QUOTE]Is she running the luxe in roch?
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6885143]This is very interesting. Either a unreal coincidence or I tipped le off with my post yesterday. I was there in the morning and had a VIP experience with Soda, the provider. In getting to know her after the massage, I asked how long she would be there, she hesitated and said she would be going back to texas tomorrow. We chatted more and said "don't tell Mama but they close here tomorrow, this last day for spa. Then she asked if there were other k spas that offer FS. I said yes and she seemed surprised and asked where. So that's where my Intel came from and she stressed " don't tell Mama" on my way out.
Looks like I dodged a bullet by not going later in the day.
Stay safe mongers.
SN.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know if Soda has worked at any other spas in the area under a different name?
[QUOTE=JAsian;6886379]Does anyone know if Soda has worked at any other spas in the area under a different name?[/QUOTE]I think she would have been raved about if so. She had the most amazing body I have had. Seriously flawless skin, ass was really perfect, bolt ons were perfect c / d cup. Model type waist. Beautiful face, I was in heaven in my session with her. She would have been the talk of town once he word got out. I popped once doggy, then again from oral. And I was spent but she was still ready for more. She is from Dallas and that's where she said she was going back to. She said that was her first day at all green but I didn't ask if she had worked at another local spa.
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6886241]They can call or question you why you're there. Not sure about being arrested. I stopped going few weeks ago.
But hey let's get that FS list so we can googlemaps.[/QUOTE]It's a massage establishment, you're there to get a massage. Unless they see you do something or see you have involvement in something that's not legal, I'm not getting what the problem would be.
[QUOTE=Softailrider;6886407]It's a massage establishment, you're there to get a massage. Unless they see you do something or see you have involvement in something that's not legal, I'm not getting what the problem would be.[/QUOTE]Thats exactly right. You're there for a massage. Unless the provider says you are there for something else and there is footage, you have nothing to worry about. Never allow them to intimidating you into saying anything different. And if they say you're on tape, continue your denial and tell them to prove it (they are allowed to lie to you).
Just never admit to anything illegal.
I remember reading about a local raid a year or so ago where a monger was there at the time of the raid. They got him to admit to a h/e (are you kidding me). At that point there are charges but not without the admission of guilt.
Be smart gentleman.
[QUOTE=MisterPaul;6882388]I returned and was happy to spend some time with Tracy. I believe she is the girl I wrote of before. Her appearance is excellent. She speaks good English and her skills are quite good. I miss Lydia but Tracy is just as good. She is just a pleasure to be around.[/QUOTE]Mister Paul.
Clear your mailbox and please PM me.
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6886550]Thats exactly right. You're there for a massage. Unless the provider says you are there for something else and there is footage, you have nothing to worry about. Never allow them to intimidating you into saying anything different. And if they say you're on tape, continue your denial and tell them to prove it (they are allowed to lie to you).
Just never admit to anything illegal.
I remember reading about a local raid a year or so ago where a monger was there at the time of the raid. They got him to admit to a h/e (are you kidding me). At that point there are charges but not without the admission of guilt.
Be smart gentleman.[/QUOTE]I agree but would caution against talking to them at all.
Yes they can lie to you but never get into a debate with them like challenging them prove it or even deny it.
If they've stopped you and are questioning you, the ONLY thing to ask is, am I free to go or am I being detained? If they don't give a direct answer (and they won't) ask again. And continue to ask until they make it clear.
If you're not being detained FUCKING LEAVE.
If you are being detained, say I invoke my 5th ammendment right to remain silent and I WANT A LAWYER. And yes, the Supreme Court has said you have to say out loud that you invoke the 5th. And then for God's sake SHUT THE FUCK UP.
This is what they do for a living. If they can get you to start talking, that's half the battle.
If they have enough evidence to arrest you, you're not talking yourself out of it. Period.
There is absolutely NOTHING you can say that will ever help you.
As an attorney friend of mine is fond of saying, All of my clients have the right to remain silent. Few have the ability.
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6886550]Thats exactly right. You're there for a massage. Unless the provider says you are there for something else and there is footage, you have nothing to worry about. Never allow them to intimidating you into saying anything different. And if they say you're on tape, continue your denial and tell them to prove it (they are allowed to lie to you).
Just never admit to anything illegal.
I remember reading about a local raid a year or so ago where a monger was there at the time of the raid. They got him to admit to a h/e (are you kidding me). At that point there are charges but not without the admission of guilt.
Be smart gentleman.[/QUOTE]I posted about this the last time another facility got popped and I feel like I have to share this PSA every time this shit happens.
Guys, if you are EVER talking to cops. DON'T! Follow this script:
1) When being detained / stopped / propositioned by police you say: "Why are holding me here / stopping me / etc?" . They have to tell you why, otherwise it's illegal.
2) If they start asking questions about what you're doing there or where you're going or even who you are; you say "I'm not discussing my day / identifying myself to you. " The laws in Michigan clearly state that you do not have to identify yourself to a police officer UNLESS you are being arrested. Don't tell them or disclose SHIT! They're counting on you to volunteer info to incriminate yourself.
3) If they keep asking questions (or you just want to leave and know they don't have shit on you (because odds are they don't)); you say "Am I being detained, or am I free to go? They have to answer that question BY LAW otherwise it's illegal and can be considered entrapment.
4) If they say you are free to go, say nothing else and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE. If they say you are being detained; you say this "At this time I invoke my 5th amendment rights". You have to say this phrase specifically because then cops know they cannot ask you any other questions, full stop.
5) SHUT THE FUCK UP AFTER THIS!! Seriously SHUT THE FUCK UP! By invoking your 5th amendment rights you have signaled that you are remaining silent until either arrested or told that you are free to go. Do not give up any personal info unless you are told specifically that you are under arrest. Do not give into their game of "I'll let you go if you show me some I'd". No, fuck that. Keep on saying "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" until they tell you are free to go.
6) If arrested, STAY FUCKING SILENT until you speak to a lawyer. They can only hold you without evidence for up to 24 hours and unless there is some hidden security camera with clear ass audio specifically stating that you are exchanging sex for money, cops can do fuck all to prosecute you. They'll just hope you'll crack under the pressure and incriminate yourself by volunteering information. DON'T LET THEM WIN!!
In summary, here's the script:
"Why are you stopping me?
Cops ask questions: "I'm not discussing my day with you".
They ask more questions "Am I being detained or am I free to go?
Free to go? GET THE FUCK OUT AND DON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
Detained? "I invoke my 5th amendment rights at this time".
AND THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP until you are given clearance that you're free to go or you are able to speak to a lawyer (even a court appointed one).
Above all else. NEVER FUCKING TALK TO COPS. SERIOUSLY! FUCK THEM!
Please note that I am not a lawyer and for legal reasons my advice should not be taken as legal advice. However, my ex was a criminal defense attorney so take that for what you will.
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6886707]I posted about this the last time another facility got popped and I feel like I have to share this PSA every time this shit happens.
Guys, if you are EVER talking to cops. DON'T! Follow this script:
1) When being detained / stopped / propositioned by police you say: "Why are holding me here / stopping me / etc?" . They have to tell you why, otherwise it's illegal.
2) If they start asking questions about what you're doing there or where you're going or even who you are; you say "I'm not discussing my day / identifying myself to you. " The laws in Michigan clearly state that you do not have to identify yourself to a police officer UNLESS you are being arrested. Don't tell them or disclose SHIT! They're counting on you to volunteer info to incriminate yourself.
3) If they keep asking questions (or you just want to leave and know they don't have shit on you (because odds are they don't)); you say "Am I being detained, or am I free to go? They have to answer that question BY LAW otherwise it's illegal and can be considered entrapment.
4) If they say you are free to go, say nothing else and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE. If they say you are being detained; you say this "At this time I invoke my 5th amendment rights". You have to say this phrase specifically because then cops know they cannot ask you any other questions, full stop.[/QUOTE]People that get killed by the police almost always have one thing in common. "RESISTANCE". If a cop has stopped you and ask for your I. D then you should probably give it to them. Arguing your rights and being combative leads down a dark road. If your innocent its always best to cooperate if you have something to hide, they will almost always know it. Their lead questions are designed to lead them in a direction.
Now with that said I do agree with you on "DETENTION". Once detained, absolutely do not say a thing. Never admit to anything in the lead up investigation either. This does not just apply to mongering it applies to life in general. I have been stopped and questioned before right after a date. When asked why I was at the local massage place I just said I have a bad back. Every time they asked, they would ask differently but the truth is always the same, so yeah say nothing and admit nothing and deny everything. But never resist that will get your ass kicked or killed no matter your skin color. I'm white and I've had a cop beat my ass back in the 80's. I drove on a suspended license and was speeding was all I did. Well besides run my mouth to him about my rights.
[QUOTE=Tommy101;6886756]People that get killed by the police almost always have one thing in common. "RESISTANCE". If a cop has stopped you and ask for your I. D then you should probably give it to them. Arguing your rights and being combative leads down a dark road. If your innocent its always best to cooperate if you have something to hide, they will almost always know it. Their lead questions are designed to lead them in a direction.
[/QUOTE]No one on this board is looking for advice "if they are innocent".
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6886405]I think she would have been raved about if so. She had the most amazing body I have had. Seriously flawless skin, ass was really perfect, bolt ons were perfect c / d cup. Model type waist. Beautiful face, I was in heaven in my session with her. She would have been the talk of town once he word got out. I popped once doggy, then again from oral. And I was spent but she was still ready for more. She is from Dallas and that's where she said she was going back to. She said that was her first day at all green but I didn't ask if she had worked at another local spa.[/QUOTE]They were getting some hotties there towards the end. Interesting about Dallas. When Melon in Toledo was still open and had the previous owner, they used to get their K-Girls from Dallas and they were talented hotties too.