Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;6294488]Anyone know of this place personally and if it is a flat rate all inclusive? I have driven by there and the address says nothing about massage.

Would appreciate it.

- Baggens.

[URL]https://us-orangecounty.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/310-n-tustin-ave-santa-ana/22584592.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, it's been discussed here, I forgot the name of the place, or what search term is best, but memory tells me that the prior reviews reference the shell station.

I've been there, services rendered fully.

However, a bit mechanical, not old hags, but I don't think I will return, it wasn't all that impressive.

Good in a clutch, I was a walk in. Better can be had with a bit of planning.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6287197]You are correct. The CAMTC site will tell you what city they're working in. IF you know their real name, and IF they're actually licensed, and IF they update their info when they change shops. Few of the girls in shops mentioned in this forum are actually licensed. CAMTC does not recognize foreign massage schools and only accepts credentials from US based massage schools that give classes in English, so if it's a girl that speaks little to no English there is almost zero chance she has a valid license. They rarely update their info when they move shops until their license is up for renewal, which is every two years. The licenses do not list the name of the shop they're working in, just the city. So for purposes of this forum, searching that site is useless.

Some of the places have licenses displayed on the wall in the lobby. Just for kicks and grins I've randomly run some of the names on those licenses. Almost without exception they're expired, non-existent, or revoked for misconduct.

Bottom line is there's no way to find them by looking it up on any database.[/QUOTE]The california massage board, CAMTC will revoke a license just for advertising on any "erotic" website. If they cross reference a masseuse, and there's evidence of Rubmaps or Backpage or Craigslist associated with that address, they can pull the license, never to be re activated again.

A few girls whom I know well have asked me to help with that stuff, and I can tell you, it's impossible to deal with the application process especially if the girl has had any kind of ticket.

I wish things would go back to the way it was when Jerry Moonbeam allowed parlours to flourish for a short number of years. That's when they just exploded. More competition means more poontang, better service for a monger like me.

[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6294430]She does Russian behind curtains? I don't understand the concept there, how they offer these services if there is no rooms there.[/QUOTE]There are rooms with solid walls at L and L.

Beware of new IG nuru providers account. I DMed 1 provider and she quoted me $100 for nuru for 1 hr -private location and no house fee. But she wanted $50 deposit. I was going to send payment, but her IG account is now deactivated / banned? Probably scam. Never send deposit!

[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6294430]She does Russian behind curtains? I don't understand the concept there, how they offer these services if there is no rooms there.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you get the massage but I am in rooms with mia.

Do fees include everything or is there up sell I. E. BBBJ etc.?

[QUOTE=Taws6;6294526]Yeah, it's been discussed here, I forgot the name of the place, or what search term is best, but memory tells me that the prior reviews reference the shell station.

I've been there, services rendered fully.

However, a bit mechanical, not old hags, but I don't think I will return, it wasn't all that impressive.

Good in a clutch, I was a walk in. Better can be had with a bit of planning.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

How would you rate prostate game in Bali and how much they charge?

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;6294784]Do fees include everything or is there up sell I. E. BBBJ etc.?[/QUOTE]Sakura spa. I posted about this earlier. There'll be some upselling. The ad looks like the price for fs

Went to see Kiki again at AirBody. . 35+. 6. Her tease game is on point. Massage was good, she steps on your back. On the flip her HJ is fairly standard but my stamina this time was too much for her. So she got tired and asked me to finish. I'm pretty sure she got man made tits since last time I saw her over a year ago. They're not bad. She actually showed them this time. Last time she wouldn't even lift her shirt.

Top 10.

Saw Tiffany there. She's fairly cute. Older than Kiki for sure. Massage was okay. On the flip, she was okay with. 4 tip after. 35 house fee. Didn't want to be touched or show anything. Finish was not bad. No tease really.

Happy SA.

Saw Lisa here. She's mature but not old. Natural big breasts, maybe a good C or D. Not really sure. Not petite but not chubby either. I forgot the house fee but most are within standard. On the flip CBJ finish in hat. Tip. 6.

[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6295043]How would you rate prostate game in Bali and how much they charge?[/QUOTE]They'll all stick a finger up your ass put Yoyo was the only one that had any finesse. BW has a reputation for walnut work. Amy at Sakura in Garden Grove. Helen at SH on Magnolia.

Dang she showed full boobs full frontal? Used to be you can only see from behind. Wonder if she opened up her menu finally! She's probably the hottest MT out there and only doing HJ. What a tease.

[QUOTE=Gulongitlog;6295061]Went to see Kiki again at AirBody. . 35+. 6. Her tease game is on point. Massage was good, she steps on your back. On the flip her HJ is fairly standard but my stamina this time was too much for her. So she got tired and asked me to finish. I'm pretty sure she got man made tits since last time I saw her over a year ago. They're not bad. She actually showed them this time. Last time she wouldn't even lift her shirt.

Top 10.

Saw Tiffany there. She's fairly cute. Older than Kiki for sure. Massage was okay. On the flip, she was okay with. 4 tip after. 35 house fee. Didn't want to be touched or show anything. Finish was not bad. No tease really.

Happy SA.

Saw Lisa here. She's mature but not old. Natural big breasts, maybe a good C or D. Not really sure. Not petite but not chubby either. I forgot the house fee but most are within standard. On the flip CBJ finish in hat. Tip. 6.[/QUOTE]

What days does she work there?

[QUOTE=Gulongitlog;6295061]Went to see Kiki again at AirBody. . 35+. 6. Her tease game is on point. Massage was good, she steps on your back. On the flip her HJ is fairly standard but my stamina this time was too much for her. So she got tired and asked me to finish. I'm pretty sure she got man made tits since last time I saw her over a year ago. They're not bad. She actually showed them this time. Last time she wouldn't even lift her shirt.

Top 10.

Saw Tiffany there. She's fairly cute. Older than Kiki for sure. Massage was okay. On the flip, she was okay with. 4 tip after. 35 house fee. Didn't want to be touched or show anything. Finish was not bad. No tease really.

Happy SA.

Saw Lisa here. She's mature but not old. Natural big breasts, maybe a good C or D. Not really sure. Not petite but not chubby either. I forgot the house fee but most are within standard. On the flip CBJ finish in hat. Tip. 6.[/QUOTE]

I stopped in a week or two ago as a walk-in.

Flat rate, full menu, Yoyo was fairly hot and young and fairly mechanical.

Not so much a MP as a jack shack.

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;6294488]Anyone know of this place personally and if it is a flat rate all inclusive? I have driven by there and the address says nothing about massage.

Would appreciate it.

- Baggens.

[URL]https://us-orangecounty.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/310-n-tustin-ave-santa-ana/22584592.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CJung78;6295610]What days does she work there?[/QUOTE]Are you getting a 30 minute massage for $35? The hour rate is $45 at both Air Body and Top 10.

[QUOTE=SlappySalami;6294661]The california massage board, CAMTC will revoke a license just for advertising on any "erotic" website. If they cross reference a masseuse, and there's evidence of Rubmaps or Backpage or Craigslist associated with that address, they can pull the license, never to be re activated again.

A few girls whom I know well have asked me to help with that stuff, and I can tell you, it's impossible to deal with the application process especially if the girl has had any kind of ticket.

I wish things would go back to the way it was when Jerry Moonbeam allowed parlours to flourish for a short number of years. That's when they just exploded. More competition means more poontang, better service for a monger like me.[/QUOTE]Yep, you're correct. There's also a growing faction of politicians that wants California to go to a full on state license and state massage board like 48 other states have. Most of the legit industry is against it for a variety of reasons, mostly bureaucratic red tape that would creep into the industry that we don't need. If it happens, and it might within the next few years, it will be bad news for erotic MPs and make things much more restrictive than they are now. The way it works now with cities regulating massage establishments, certain cities more or less look the other way by their choice. Downey for example. Last I checked there were about 6 erotic MPs there, and most of them have been in business for 25-30 years or more. The city knows full well what happens in there, but they also know that it's contained and harmless. If they bust those places all they will do is drive it underground where it's harder to monitor and causes even more problems. With a state license and state board it opens the door for state LE authorities to do raids and crackdowns in areas where these shops have been doing their thing for many years. So for the sake of the hobby, hope that CAMTC remains a thing for the foreseeable future. They do a good job at what they do. The shops providing erotic services don't need licenses other than for the optics of having licenses posted in the lobby.

[QUOTE=Backs;6295381]Dang she showed full boobs full frontal? Used to be you can only see from behind. Wonder if she opened up her menu finally! She's probably the hottest MT out there and only doing HJ. What a tease.[/QUOTE]LOL my thoughts exactly. It was a nice surprise. Hopefully there's more in the future.

Also for the other question. Not sure what days, I just texted the number to check if she's available. This was on a Thursday.

[QUOTE=OCRanger;6294699]Beware of new IG nuru providers account. I DMed 1 provider and she quoted me $100 for nuru for 1 hr -private location and no house fee. But she wanted $50 deposit. I was going to send payment, but her IG account is now deactivated / banned? Probably scam. Never send deposit![/QUOTE]Yipe agree. I learned the hard way. I send a $25 deposit then she went MIA immediately.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6295811]Yep, you're correct. There's also a growing faction of politicians that wants California to go to a full on state license and state massage board like 48 other states have. Most of the legit industry is against it for a variety of reasons, mostly bureaucratic red tape that would creep into the industry that we don't need. If it happens, and it might within the next few years, it will be bad news for erotic MPs and make things much more restrictive than they are now. The way it works now with cities regulating massage establishments, certain cities more or less look the other way by their choice. Downey for example. Last I checked there were about 6 erotic MPs there, and most of them have been in business for 25-30 years or more. The city knows full well what happens in there, but they also know that it's contained and harmless. If they bust those places all they will do is drive it underground where it's harder to monitor and causes even more problems. With a state license and state board it opens the door for state LE authorities to do raids and crackdowns in areas where these shops have been doing their thing for many years. So for the sake of the hobby, hope that CAMTC remains a thing for the foreseeable future. They do a good job at what they do. The shops providing erotic services don't need licenses other than for the optics of having licenses posted in the lobby.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the discussion gents. I was considering opening a self service "tanning and shower" place where dudes might pay for a room to change clothes, a locker, robe and towel to shower. The an attendant is there to help you dry off or maybe soap or shampoo the client, and discreetly provide a blow job either in the shower area or room. Then the girl helps the customer get dressed and stuff.

Would do this as a silent partner. Wondering if this would legal be outside the scope of the massage enforcement umbrella.

The benefit for me would be, hiring and auditioning the talent and saving on my monger budget.

Years ago there was a "Shower and Tan" on Euclid Hazard anybody remember?

[URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bts/d/la-habra-manscaping-by-mary/7575353310.html[/URL]

Has anyone seen her? Extras available?

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[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6274050]At Haven.

I found her to have GND looks with soft small facial features with a sloping nose that makes her looks very picturesque. 5'4", waist length black wavy hair, a pair of lovely D tits that are shapely and perky although man made, phat ass, shaven pussy. She has fair skin tone and no tattoos that I could see. Curvy physique, not as muscly as Tessa and not has thicc as Ramona, a good compromise between the two.

Decent talker and pleasant personality. Massage was better the average talent I've seen at Haven. Good pressure and contact on the extremities and nude body slides interspersed throughout. Allowed roaming but no FOV. Teasing was just OK for me. She tends to want to sit on your chest while giving you a HJ which made it difficult to breath so I can her stand next to me while giving me access to her tits and ass. Says she doesn't do extras.

Overall, Adalyn looks the most normal of the girls I've seen at Haven. Not overly caked in makeup or heavily inked. It's an almost jarring juxtaposition when I first saw her. Massage was decent and she looks very good. I would repeat.

65 to the house for an hour and 160 tip.[/QUOTE]Replying to a mish mash of stuff in the forum. But first.

I ended up at Haven today and on the way out, I saw this really cute petite latina (making her way through the hall in a robe. Dark brown hair put up and very fair skin. I should have stopped and asked for her name but didn't. I asked the girl in the reception and asked, "Who's the little short Latina?" she says could be Adalyn or Charisma. Seeing your report, I'm thinking maybe not Adalyn in the hall way. Even with a robe on, she looked really petite. Does Adalyn have fair skin?

Anyways. My first visit to Haven. Booked through IG, Wendy (Min). She's got a freaking hot skinny body. Full bubble butt, fake C's, but not too fake feeling. And I love that tattoo on her butt. She's got to be in her upper 30's possibly even a little more? Perhaps even some work on her face. Lots of makeup, but her body is smoking hot for my tastes. Huge accent, not much of a conversationalist, but just love her straddling on top, reverse and grabbing onto her tits. And she cuddles too. Her massage not that great. She likes to go straight to body on body and sticking her mouth right up to her ear, though I would like more massage. 45 min, 55 door, tip $. 60.

When she first came into the room and immediately bolted a hotel travel lock onto the door, I thought oh. FS will be on the table? Further into the sesh, she got me freaking horny as hell and I asked her for something more. She said, not on the first time. Can't give it away the first time, else you'd never come back. She kept wanting to me to come back to see the other 4 or 5 girls on her team rather than seeing her. Lynn (Nabi), Kelly? Ramona? Lisa? I don't remember but she said they are all Viet cept for one? And the dual name thing. Wendy (Min). Lynn (Nabi). I don't get it. She said, "call me Wendy Min!

Regarding those posts that talked about Krystal's network.

They are trying to build a up a network, where they rather refer clients to each other (and perhaps a small kick back), rather than the clients jumping to the next random girl outside of their ring and spa and no one gets anything. I also regularly see one of the girls which Krystal promotes, but as an independent, never through Krystal. Min said she never met that girl, but since Krystal promotes her, her clients are good, and I'm more than welcome. That independent I've been seeing, I've seen a few of her partners, and because I see that main girl, the other girls let me in without hesitation.

Back to the visit.

Entering the place was pretty hilarious. A granny sat behind the reception eating her food. Gave me a big smile and motioned for the granddaughter aged girl to come and help me. The granddaughter. Was all business, big accent, and seemingly not enthused of the family business. Tet is coming up. Be hilarious if I brought grandma some mandarins or some other new years type of gift. Anyways. Grandma bumped into me a couple of times I was here, shuttling me here and there, cleaning up the bathroom for me, always smiling and enthusiastic.

I usually see independents or go overseas for activities, so this Viet spa and another recent spa was a nice change. I'm starting to see the appeal of these places and easier to setup than independents. When an independent doesn't respond or ghosts you, you're SOL. Good luck trying to find another girl you've been verified with and is working that same afternoon in short notice. Just more options with these spas.

Now I just want to go back next week and book Charisma to see if she's really that girl I saw. Petite girls with dark hair and fair skin really get me excited.

[QUOTE=OCTatts;6296548]Thanks for the discussion gents. I was considering opening a self service "tanning and shower" place where dudes might pay for a room to change clothes, a locker, robe and towel to shower. The an attendant is there to help you dry off or maybe soap or shampoo the client, and discreetly provide a blow job either in the shower area or room. Then the girl helps the customer get dressed and stuff.

Would do this as a silent partner. Wondering if this would legal be outside the scope of the massage enforcement umbrella.

The benefit for me would be, hiring and auditioning the talent and saving on my monger budget.

Years ago there was a "Shower and Tan" on Euclid Hazard anybody remember?[/QUOTE]Interesting question. I'll post my answer in Rants since it isn't really relevant here.

[QUOTE=Alowicious;6288077]Ocean: This is a no-frills FS jack shack, straight up. Walked in, late-20's / early-30's Mexican-seeming Asian girl took me to the room, took my $40 for 30 minutes, and the moment my bills landed in her hand she asked me, making the boom-boom motion at the same time, "here for fuck?" Confirmed. Asked for 180, I stood firm with 120, she relented. Once she came back it was down to business, which is to say it was definitely a business to her and she seemed to want me to know it. I did get her to cum, but otherwise she was just there to be pounded, and definitely not to ride. I didn't bother getting her name, as I had no intentions of coming back. Her looks and body and fun parts were average all around, though she definitely had a hell of a Bush (I like Bush, but hers was borderline jungle) . There was one other girl there, who I could sorta see on my way out, and looked around the same age but a little heavier. Would not recommend, unless you're looking for a no-frills sure thing. Don't know how long they'll last, what with taking zero precautions to filter out uncle LEO.[/QUOTE]Both of my regulars were unavailable yesterday, so I tossed a coin and ended up at Ocean Spa. Mostly because a monger in another post had suggested he was offered BBFS, which intrigued me, since that is pretty rare in a parlor that isn't granny central. I got the same girl as Allowicious, with nearly an identical experience. Everything was covered and all business, too. And that jungle Bush of hers is certainly out there. Moreover, she is skinny-fat, not toned at all, stretch marks on her nips and somewhat saggy tits, and an ass that is giving in to gravity. We started in mish, with her horizontal on the massage table, and after getting bored, I flipped her to doggy. Didn't stay in the position long, because she has a distracting hemorrhoid on her starfish. No bueno. Flipped her back on her back, lying down completely on the table, and drilled some more. Not too satisfying, so I got off of her, pulled off the cover and had her finish me with jackhammer HJ. She nearly bruised my balls from stroking me so hard, but I finally nutted and departed.

The place is permanently crossed off my list. Live and learn.

Luvies on Beach in HB does decent manscaping.

[QUOTE=OCTatts;6296548]Thanks for the discussion gents. I was considering opening a self service "tanning and shower" place where dudes might pay for a room to change clothes, a locker, robe and towel to shower. The an attendant is there to help you dry off or maybe soap or shampoo the client, and discreetly provide a blow job either in the shower area or room. Then the girl helps the customer get dressed and stuff.

Would do this as a silent partner. Wondering if this would legal be outside the scope of the massage enforcement umbrella.

The benefit for me would be, hiring and auditioning the talent and saving on my monger budget.

Years ago there was a "Shower and Tan" on Euclid Hazard anybody remember?[/QUOTE]I don't remember such a place, but I would certainly frequent it if one opens up!

I do remember hearing about a tanning salon where the reception girl would give BJs. I don't think it was set up as such, I think she was just freelancing and making a bit extra on the side.

[QUOTE=Dorkenetre;6293135]I'm working on this side of town for the next 2 weeks. Anyone know any good nuru spots?[/QUOTE]You can try out the shops owned by a group who owned the original Honey location at 440 Fair. While that place isn't open anymore, they have shops at 5 different locations in.

Orange: Health & Beauty Center, Pearl Spa.

Westminster: Bliss Wellness Spa.

Garden Grove: Pure Relaxation.

Santa Ana: Haven.

With Haven being the most popular one. I think the info above is accurate.

Another group of stores is owned by idk who, but they're all sister spas.

Newport Beach: Newport Nuru.

Laguna Hills: Laguna Nuru.

Santa Ana: Nuru 17.

And they're a few single shops, one in Brea where an old store LF109 had to move to, and two more in Lake Forest, Sensation and Nuru Stars.

All advertise on IG so if you have one you can look at lineups and book appointments there. All the account info should have been posted here previously.

For me, I've been more into the girls at the 3 sister spas. Haven is good too. Walk-ins are accepted, but I rec to look on IG to schedule a time with a girl based off of the ad pic.

The ad pics will never be the girl, it is just there to give you an idea of the ethnicity of the girl and her build.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Amilici69;6296599][URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bts/d/la-habra-manscaping-by-mary/7575353310.html[/URL]

Has anyone seen her? Extras available?[/QUOTE]Did you try her, she's cute, I'd go if there's extras.

Also, anyone try this one:

[URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bts/d/garden-grove-oc-buzzcuts-15-full-body/7577787595.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6297928]Did you try her, she's cute, I'd go if there's extras.

Also, anyone try this one:

[URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bts/d/garden-grove-oc-buzzcuts-15-full-body/7577787595.html[/URL][/QUOTE]This place sux.

Haircut is the worst.

The body scrub is a joke and the girls will uo sell like your a millionaire.

I will say the girls that I saw are cute and in their early 20's.

Will never repeat, not even remotely worth it.

Can someone DM me the phone number for Laguna Hills Nuru? I cannot find it anywhere.

Thanks and stay safe!

[QUOTE=PhilAShow;6297451]Luvies on Beach in HB does decent manscaping.[/QUOTE]Did you get a BBBJ or just a HJ?

[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6297928]Did you try her, she's cute, I'd go if there's extras.

Also, anyone try this one:

[URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bts/d/garden-grove-oc-buzzcuts-15-full-body/7577787595.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I hope at least a HJ with her?

[QUOTE=IAmTheQ;6296924]Replying to a mish mash of stuff in the forum. But first.

I ended up at Haven today and on the way out, I saw this really cute petite latina (making her way through the hall in a robe. Dark brown hair put up and very fair skin. I should have stopped and asked for her name but didn't. I asked the girl in the reception and asked, "Who's the little short Latina?" she says could be Adalyn or Charisma. Seeing your report, I'm thinking maybe not Adalyn in the hall way. Even with a robe on, she looked really petite. Does Adalyn have fair skin?

Anyways. My first visit to Haven. Booked through IG, Wendy (Min). She's got a freaking hot skinny body. Full bubble butt, fake C's, but not too fake feeling. And I love that tattoo on her butt. She's got to be in her upper 30's possibly even a little more? Perhaps even some work on her face. Lots of makeup, but her body is smoking hot for my tastes. Huge accent, not much of a conversationalist, but just love her straddling on top, reverse and grabbing onto her tits. And she cuddles too. Her massage not that great. She likes to go straight to body on body and sticking her mouth right up to her ear, though I would like more massage. 45 min, 55 door, tip $. 60.

When she first came into the room and immediately bolted a hotel travel lock onto the door, I thought oh. FS will be on the table? Further into the sesh, she got me freaking horny as hell and I asked her for something more. She said, not on the first time. Can't give it away the first time, else you'd never come back. She kept wanting to me to come back to see the other 4 or 5 girls on her team rather than seeing her. Lynn (Nabi), Kelly? Ramona? Lisa? I don't remember but she said they are all Viet cept for one? And the dual name thing. Wendy (Min). Lynn (Nabi). I don't get it. She said, "call me Wendy Min!

Regarding those posts that talked about Krystal's network.

They are trying to build a up a network, where they rather refer clients to each other (and perhaps a small kick back), rather than the clients jumping to the next random girl outside of their ring and spa and no one gets anything. I also regularly see one of the girls which Krystal promotes, but as an independent, never through Krystal. Min said she never met that girl, but since Krystal promotes her, her clients are good, and I'm more than welcome. That independent I've been seeing, I've seen a few of her partners, and because I see that main girl, the other girls let me in without hesitation.

Back to the visit.

Entering the place was pretty hilarious. A granny sat behind the reception eating her food. Gave me a big smile and motioned for the granddaughter aged girl to come and help me. The granddaughter. Was all business, big accent, and seemingly not enthused of the family business. Tet is coming up. Be hilarious if I brought grandma some mandarins or some other new years type of gift. Anyways. Grandma bumped into me a couple of times I was here, shuttling me here and there, cleaning up the bathroom for me, always smiling and enthusiastic.

I usually see independents or go overseas for activities, so this Viet spa and another recent spa was a nice change. I'm starting to see the appeal of these places and easier to setup than independents. When an independent doesn't respond or ghosts you, you're SOL. Good luck trying to find another girl you've been verified with and is working that same afternoon in short notice. Just more options with these spas.

Now I just want to go back next week and book Charisma to see if she's really that girl I saw. Petite girls with dark hair and fair skin really get me excited.[/QUOTE]QUOTE].

I did mention in my post that Adalyn has fair skin. See Charisma and report back how it went.

[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6297928]Did you try her, she's cute, I'd go if there's extras.

Also, anyone try this one:

[URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bts/d/garden-grove-oc-buzzcuts-15-full-body/7577787595.html[/URL][/QUOTE]OC Barber and Day Spa is 99% legit.

Angelina at Haven is a super gorgeous babe with an absolutely insane body and super pretty face and a personality that matches. Used to go by Valentina at Lake Forest 109. She looks like a latina or possibly Italian, either way she's gorgeous and worth seeing. Sort of reminds me of the babe in The Warriors that ran with the orphans and ended up bopping with the warriors but with the most ridiculously killer body ever and an even prettier face. Massage on the back was actually really good, she hit all the spots and worked out a couple knots. Started nuru shortly after which I normally don't really care about on my back but her super perky tits felt great. Flip was ridiculous, like I can't emphasize how ridiculously gorgeous her entire figure is, she very clearly works out a bunch and it shows, couldn't keep my hands off her body. Technique is great, super sensual and genuinely into it the entire time, no rush and super intuitive to what my body was saying. She does femdom sessions too and I think feet stuff if that's your thing but don't quote me on the feet stuff I didn't directly ask, just think I remember that coming up the first time I saw her. Not sure what days she works, I saw her on a Sunday.

[QUOTE=IAmTheQ;6296924]Replying to a mish mash of stuff in the forum. But first.

I ended up at Haven today and on the way out, I saw this really cute petite latina (making her way through the hall in a robe. Dark brown hair put up and very fair skin. I should have stopped and asked for her name but didn't. I asked the girl in the reception and asked, "Who's the little short Latina?" she says could be Adalyn or Charisma. Seeing your report, I'm thinking maybe not Adalyn in the hall way. Even with a robe on, she looked really petite. Does Adalyn have fair skin?

Anyways. My first visit to Haven. Booked through IG, Wendy (Min). She's got a freaking hot skinny body. Full bubble butt, fake C's, but not too fake feeling. And I love that tattoo on her butt. She's got to be in her upper 30's possibly even a little more? Perhaps even some work on her face. Lots of makeup, but her body is smoking hot for my tastes. Huge accent, not much of a conversationalist, but just love her straddling on top, reverse and grabbing onto her tits. And she cuddles too. Her massage not that great. She likes to go straight to body on body and sticking her mouth right up to her ear, though I would like more massage. 45 min, 55 door, tip $. 60.

When she first came into the room and immediately bolted a hotel travel lock onto the door, I thought oh. FS will be on the table? Further into the sesh, she got me freaking horny as hell and I asked her for something more. She said, not on the first time. Can't give it away the first time, else you'd never come back. She kept wanting to me to come back to see the other 4 or 5 girls on her team rather than seeing her. Lynn (Nabi), Kelly? Ramona? Lisa? I don't remember but she said they are all Viet cept for one? And the dual name thing. Wendy (Min). Lynn (Nabi). I don't get it. She said, "call me Wendy Min!

Regarding those posts that talked about Krystal's network.

They are trying to build a up a network, where they rather refer clients to each other (and perhaps a small kick back), rather than the clients jumping to the next random girl outside of their ring and spa and no one gets anything. I also regularly see one of the girls which Krystal promotes, but as an independent, never through Krystal. Min said she never met that girl, but since Krystal promotes her, her clients are good, and I'm more than welcome. That independent I've been seeing, I've seen a few of her partners, and because I see that main girl, the other girls let me in without hesitation.

Back to the visit.

Entering the place was pretty hilarious. A granny sat behind the reception eating her food. Gave me a big smile and motioned for the granddaughter aged girl to come and help me. The granddaughter. Was all business, big accent, and seemingly not enthused of the family business. Tet is coming up. Be hilarious if I brought grandma some mandarins or some other new years type of gift. Anyways. Grandma bumped into me a couple of times I was here, shuttling me here and there, cleaning up the bathroom for me, always smiling and enthusiastic.

I usually see independents or go overseas for activities, so this Viet spa and another recent spa was a nice change. I'm starting to see the appeal of these places and easier to setup than independents. When an independent doesn't respond or ghosts you, you're SOL. Good luck trying to find another girl you've been verified with and is working that same afternoon in short notice. Just more options with these spas.

Now I just want to go back next week and book Charisma to see if she's really that girl I saw. Petite girls with dark hair and fair skin really get me excited.[/QUOTE]Out of their circle Tia / shai is my favorite. Ramona is also super fire thick latina babe. Adalyn does have fair skin and is pretty small but not like short, could be her. Other fit latinas there are Jazzy and Tessa. Not sure who Charisma is but based on what you're saying I think you'd dig Jazzy.

[QUOTE=DowntownBrown5;6141428]Does anyone know if Jasmine retired or if she's working independently now?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen her for months, I usually went with Kate or Amanda. I met her once there, the massages was a 5 and the flip was a 8. Do you recommend her, any intel?

[QUOTE=FrankReynolds;6298961]Angelina at Haven is a super gorgeous babe with an absolutely insane body and super pretty face and a personality that matches. Used to go by Valentina at Lake Forest 109. She looks like a latina or possibly Italian, either way she's gorgeous and worth seeing. Sort of reminds me of the babe in The Warriors that ran with the orphans and ended up bopping with the warriors but with the most ridiculously killer body ever and an even prettier face. Massage on the back was actually really good, she hit all the spots and worked out a couple knots. Started nuru shortly after which I normally don't really care about on my back but her super perky tits felt great. Flip was ridiculous, like I can't emphasize how ridiculously gorgeous her entire figure is, she very clearly works out a bunch and it shows, couldn't keep my hands off her body. Technique is great, super sensual and genuinely into it the entire time, no rush and super intuitive to what my body was saying. She does femdom sessions too and I think feet stuff if that's your thing but don't quote me on the feet stuff I didn't directly ask, just think I remember that coming up the first time I saw her. Not sure what days she works, I saw her on a Sunday.[/QUOTE]What's the IG?

[QUOTE=NathanCross;6298856]OC Barber and Day Spa is 99% legit.[/QUOTE][URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/...575353310.html[/URL] How about her?

Hey mongers,

I'm new and want a nuru massage like those awesome videos (I know it'll likely cost). I saw a list of nuru providers but no contact info — and google hasn't helped with that. I'm in lake forest. Any nuru like those nearby? Please DM with info. Thanks!

I got a lead onto a massage parlor from someone who relocated to the IE and had experience w / Rainbow Spa. It is on Red Hill very near the I-5. If you google it, yelp says it is inside 7-11, but it is just next door. There is parking in the back but it is cramped and you need to maneuver around to get turned around to drive away. Not many spaces either.

I went in at 11:30 am, it was pretty quiet. Despite a wind chime on the front door, I wasn't attended to until I rang a bell inside. A youngish cute Asian girl came out, I told her I wanted a half hour ($40), and she took me to a room. The room was laid out like a pretty legit place, w / a table with a face cradle, soothing music playing, etc. Bars on the ceiling for back walking too. I did have lower back soreness I needed attended to. I got naked. After a bit of a wait, Shirley came in. She is a petite spinner around 30, bowl haircut, probably Bs, but I didn't get any more info about those. Not gorgeous, not ugly (not at all). Accented English, some things she said I didn't understand well. I told her I had back soreness and so she was going to work on that.

She got to work and did a pretty good legitimate massage on me. Back, and down the legs and up again. That included getting up on the table between my legs, which (of course) required me to spread them out a little bit. She started w / no oil or lotion. When she was going to work on my gluts, she did use some lubricant, IDK what, but it had no odor and it was in small amounts, which was just fine for me. She started circling my butt cheeks, and I had already kinda spread out and raised up, and this gave her a chance to reach underneath to junior and the boys. So IK it was on. She had a great touch, did that for a few minutes, but then went back to massage. Eventually, of course, she returned to that, and I decided to flip over myself b / c I didn't want to pop just from that. We began a hushed discussion / negotiation. So that suggests there is a veil of secrecy about what the girls are doing w / the customers in the room. I had a hard time hearing / understanding a lot of what she said. I do know she was offering to take her top off. I wasn't particularly in the mood for that but IK it is available. I made the sign for a HJ and said 40. She brought a pillow up from below the table so the face cradle was covered and I laid back and let her work. She was whispering in my ear while she stroked me but I don't know what she was saying really, it was so low. I found her HJ very sensual and when I popped it was very very intense.

This was my first time there, and my first time in a massage spa in at least 5 years. I would return under the right circumstances in the right mood.