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		[QUOTE=DTownFreak;5157251]Same. Were in the no aa phase again. Guess no other race does crime, so they just group us with the bad as one. Oh well. Telling them your in your 30's and not hood doesn't even matter. Haven't been able to see anyone lately. Hopefully that turns around soon.[/QUOTE]I'm in my early twenties, so I'm having an especially hard time. It is what it is, though. 
 
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		YMMV and Negotiating 
		[QUOTE=Power69;5156758]The one who recently posted she deserves 3 stimulus checks?
 
 Its ok, girls treat us poorly frequently. Sometimes karma flips and we wind up treating them poorly, sometimes unintentionally.
 
 Sometimes their poor treatment of us is in part or largely due to dope and bfs / pimps.
 
 Some guys may say I am a softie.
 
 BUT I agree with the price control policy of the previous poster.
 I do say lets bargain them down. Prices have gotten way too high. We should all knock off 20 to 25 percent from their rates on our offers. Unless a regular is already giving a 40 bj. Maybe SWers not so much, some are already 20 to 30[/QUOTE]I agree that everyone to some extent should try to negotiate with these girls. You always have to understand that you may not get the service or attitude that you may have gotten if you paid the extra $20-$40 dollars as well. There are so many girls out here to choose from and us on here are trying to figure out which ones are worth the time and money or not. Since most of us think with the little head, we usually forget that saying No Thank You and Leaving is an Option!
 
 I've been in the game for over 20 years and have paid $500 in Vegas, paid up to $300 here in the SC and paid as little as $20 for a SW. All in all the experiences were pretty much the same and I'm embarrassed admitting that I paid that much for P*why! Now that I'm somewhat more responsible and my time is a lot more important to me, I'm all about the best bang for the buck. That being said, I'm looking for the best body, freshest smelling kitty for the lowest price.
 
 The whole YMMV is absolutely true and even happens with the same provider every time that you visit them. These girls are very unstable, under the influence of many different substances and have handlers that usually just live off of them and put them through a lot more stress. You may have gotten XYZ for $$ the first time and now she's saying X is $$ Just like you may have gotten X for $$ and now she's offering XYZ for $$. So many different variables, especially depending on how much $ she needs for what at that very time.
 
 We have a great platform here to exchange our different encounters and conversations whether positive or negative to give us an idea on whether or not we may decide to take the plunge or not. No matter how many times you've seen the same provider, you must always treat it as your first time or you may be in for a bad surprise.
 
 I've reached out to a few of you during this COVID for suggestions and I appreciate the feedback! Thank you to everyone that shares your stories with us regardless of good or bad. I'm hoping to post some encounters soon, until then Stay Safe Everyone!
 
 
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		I was also interested 
		Haven't seen her so I am in the same boat as you.
 
 I asked a few months ago she said she is limiting things because of covid (no DFK).
 
 Contacted her this week and she said limited K (could be just LFK) and no DATY.
 
 I get that it's unsafe during COVID and I don't mean to minimize the risks involved, but typically the understanding is that she's a high end provider and is most likely uninfected. I am not at risk and I live alone so don't really mind taking the risk.
 
 Hence my hesitance to go forward especially since I'm spending a little more for GFE here.
 
 [QUOTE=Josh8;5157191][URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/vivienne-leigh-escort-detroit-377704[/URL]#erotic.
 
 Any info on this one? Searched the forum. Couldn't find any reviews.
 
 Will TOFTT.[/QUOTE]
 
 
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		Prices 
		Someone aske how much I pay Shawna. First off I consider her much better than most these skanks that post on STG & LC and I've been seeing her for 2-3 Years now. With than said, I've seen her for 50-120 $ sometimes just a BJ sometimes FS sometimes anal the duo cost me 120. She has never denied any request from Me & I've seen her at her resident mine car date different motels. Different prices different times but always worth it & never no bullshit. 
 
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		Anyone have any info 
		Anybody have any interaction with this one??
 
 [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/57648834/7342887902[/URL]
 
 
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		[QUOTE=DownRiverRat;5157667]Someone aske how much I pay Shawna. First off I consider her much better than most these skanks that post on STG & LC and I've been seeing her for 2-3 Years now. With than said, I've seen her for 50-120 $ sometimes just a BJ sometimes FS sometimes anal the duo cost me 120. She has never denied any request from Me & I've seen her at her resident mine car date different motels. Different prices different times but always worth it & never no bullshit.[/QUOTE]I second that. I too have been seeing her since 2017. Saw her again last night for similar rate and I still consider her the best I've seen bar none. Never had one complaint with her. Well worth the donation and the drive wherever she might be. 
 
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		Vivienne Leigh 
		[QUOTE=Josh8;5157191][URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/vivienne-leigh-escort-detroit-377704[/URL]#erotic.
 
 Any info on this one? Searched the forum. Couldn't find any reviews.
 
 Will TOFTT.[/QUOTE]She posts on EROS also. Different number that on Erotic Monkey.
 
 I've tried to contact her several times but we've never heard back from her. I'd be interested in seeing here.
 
 
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		Tgtbt? 
		[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/57635613/2488978951[/URL]
 
 Looks to good to be on there. Any input?
 
 
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		[QUOTE=BramStroker;5157650]Haven't seen her so I am in the same boat as you.
 
 I asked a few months ago she said she is limiting things because of covid (no DFK).
 
 Contacted her this week and she said limited K (could be just LFK) and no DATY.
 
 I get that it's unsafe during COVID and I don't mean to minimize the risks involved, but typically the understanding is that she's a high end provider and is most likely uninfected. I am not at risk and I live alone so don't really mind taking the risk.
 
 Hence my hesitance to go forward especially since I'm spending a little more for GFE here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Info.
 
 I agree with you. I reached out to her and haven't heard back yet. Will update if I have any info.
 
 
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		Anne 
		[QUOTE=RockHard403;5157721]I second that. I too have been seeing her since 2017. Saw her again last night for similar rate and I still consider her the best I've seen bar none. Never had one complaint with her. Well worth the donation and the drive wherever she might be.[/QUOTE]When she was having boy problems I was helping her out and was getting it for nothing I miss her but her boy won't let me see her she was great back then hope for the best for her be safe. 
 
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		Dior 
		[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/57659993/6788069804[/URL]
 
 Saw a review on D awhile back and have to say the review is totally accurate. Cute girl and set-up was easy. Covered everything and more rules than what I would prefer but all in all not bad. For my visit she had the personality of watching paint dry so definitely not GFE friendly. Will probably give her a second chance but given the original review, I'm not expecting much will change.
 
 
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		Search for Ava 
		You'll find at least one review. I saw her a month or two ago.
 
 Summary: She is fully GFE, but looks entirely different in person. She is tall but quite chubby. Face looks chubbier and so does her body. Her in call was in a messy hotel room with a cat that totally ruined the experience. It's not a notel but it isn't a luxury upscale place either. Not sure if she has moved since, I doubt she has. She is up for mostly everything but if she was a little more honest about her appearance and had a nicer, less messy place minus the cat it would be at least worth spending that much.
 
 [QUOTE=WolfenJ;5157750][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/57635613/2488978951[/URL]
 
 Looks to good to be on there. Any input?[/QUOTE]
 
 
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		Any contact details? 
		I apologize if I missed the details in the thread. If you have link or contact info, I would be interested. PM if easier. Thanks for the assist.
 
 [QUOTE=NockUowt;5143480]Any further details on T? Contact info? Ad with picture?[/QUOTE]
 
 
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		Identical experience 
		Saw her around two weeks ago and I have to say the monger who posted his detailed experience that I think you are referencing, was spot on.
 
 It was a little head moment for as I was texting two other providers. I had nailed down this other chick that had decent reviews but her place was super sketchy and her motel had that green light thing going on so I ditched her. The other girl I had considered seemed less attractive compared to Dior so I chose her. Boy was that a mistake!
 
 If there was an award for mechanical / dead fish (which I think is the reference), Dior would come first.
 
 I legit agree with the first guy, I literally could not get hard with her since she made zero effort. She would not do anything and would make you do all the heavy lifting. I wish I could have backed out of it but it was too late the moment I handed her the money.
 
 What's crazy is that all reviews on LC on her are positive. It's getting to a point that none of those reviews can be trusted.
 
 I would not repeat and would not recommend to anyone.
 
 [QUOTE=CrossHairs;5158091][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/57659993/6788069804[/URL]
 
 Saw a review on D awhile back and have to say the review is totally accurate. Cute girl and set-up was easy. Covered everything and more rules than what I would prefer but all in all not bad. For my visit she had the personality of watching paint dry so definitely not GFE friendly. Will probably give her a second chance but given the original review, I'm not expecting much will change.[/QUOTE]
 
 
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		Viviane. 
		[QUOTE=Robxx;5157749]She posts on EROS also. Different number that on Erotic Monkey.
 
 I've tried to contact her several times but we've never heard back from her. I'd be interested in seeing here.[/QUOTE]I've seen her twice. She looks exactly like her pics! Very hot. Tits are great. She's a bit space cadet-ish. I haven't seen her in about a year. She was a lot of fun tho and a good personality. I went for a third time but she ghosted me when I got in the parking lot. She's in a nice place in Canton.