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[QUOTE=AmongP;6162582]Does this mean that we don't see girls that offer PSE as an upcharge past the 340 threshold? For example, CG roster all offer PSE as an option, but do they all fall under this "boycott list" of girls as well since they have this option? Thought this might be a gray area since I see most of these girls for CFS.
Whatever you guys think I will follow suit! Lets go.[/QUOTE]From 11/1 to 11/14 Just. Don't. Go.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6163102]The OP (Vulcan1009) wanted BBFS all inclusive rate to stay at 320. If this fails, look forward to new 340 BBFS all inclusive rate and upcharge girls will add 50 for CIP.
November 1 WKPTO means no Kpussy for first week.
After that, see BBFS inclusive girls if 320 or less, and for girls with upcharge options, see them at their base rate of 320 or less like you did for CFS. I am not the organizer or I would create the MADD thread to make everything clear.[/QUOTE]From 11/1 to 11/14 Just. Don't. Go.
You guys are going to dilute the impact with all the loopholes and exceptions being proposed. We need to grow a spine. It's really simple. From 11/1 to 11/14 Just. Don't. Go.
If we all do that, believe me, they will take notice.
[QUOTE=CaptCaveman99;6163108]They keep increasing prices because they can.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Just boycott it, esp. when you add to the fact that many are now charging extra for second shot in the one hour appt. WTF LOL.
[QUOTE=CaptCaveman99;6163108]They keep increasing prices because they can.[/QUOTE]It goes both ways. The problem lies with both girls and mongers IMO. They can keep increasing prices because a decent amount of mongers are still willing to pay. That's why drawing a line and making a concerted effort to voice and convey our displeasure at this juncture is so important. I can open a lemonade stand and sell it for $50 a cup because I can and will continue to do so as long as enough people keep buying to sustain the business and generate a profit.
You'll have outliers such as the complete newbies that will pay the prevailing rate because they don't know better or the apathetic monger that isn't financially restrained. But most of us don't fall into either category and have experienced the steady increase in price while only venting and complaining online. Taking action and protesting in this way will not only inform the former category about the situation but potentially change the trajectory of the ridiculous up charge and add-ons trend.
[QUOTE=Member#2210;6163268]Agreed. Just boycott it, esp. when you add to the fact that many are now charging extra for second shot in the one hour appt. WTF LOL.[/QUOTE]Not only that they are getting lazier. Why because old white guys keep tipping and believing that.
These chicks care about them. They are the ones that ruined it for everyone. I go 3-4 times a week.
I stopped. And bookers when they text me I know it's slow.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6163303]It goes both ways. The problem lies with both girls and mongers IMO. They can keep increasing prices because a decent amount of mongers are still willing to pay. That's why drawing a line and making a concerted effort to voice and convey our displeasure at this juncture is so important. I can open a lemonade stand and sell it for $50 a cup because I can and will continue to do so as long as enough people keep buying to sustain the business and generate a profit.
You'll have outliers such as the complete newbies that will pay the prevailing rate because they don't know better or the apathetic monger that isn't financially restrained. But most of us don't fall into either category and have experienced the steady increase in price while only venting and complaining online. Taking action and protesting in this way will not only inform the former category about the situation but potentially change the trajectory of the ridiculous up charge and add-ons trend.[/QUOTE]That's it BC. I make a point to remind the uninformed what the girls' *all inclusive* rates were in the Bay, before heading to LA. Currently 280 all-in, with LKS and their HYA / CYAs some how, some way, are still content with 260 all-in.
The market in the Bay increases their rates largely to prevent losing their girls to LA, and other markets. Whereas in LA, POs claim they have to raise non-upcharge rates to prevent losing their girls to upcharge orgs. For this reason, I would emphasize the role that LA POs / orgs / bosses play as well.
[QUOTE=CaptCaveman99;6163108]They keep increasing prices because they can.[/QUOTE]It's inflation. C'mon. Are y'all serious and can't see? Everything is more expensive and rising: gas, milk, eggs, EVERYTHING. This is including the cost of renting the apartments that the girls work out of, washing towels everyday, condoms, etc.
Even if they bumped everything up by $100 today, they are still providing a lower price with better service while being hotter than the white, latinas and black girls going for $500 and up on PD. I never understood why K-girls were less expensive when most of them blow the PD girls out of the water in terms of both looks and service.
MADD is a no for me dawg. If I feel like playtime Nov. 1st, I'm going. I'm sure most others will too.
[QUOTE=Bince33;6163624]It's inflation. C'mon. Are y'all serious and can't see? Everything is more expensive and rising: gas, milk, eggs, EVERYTHING. This is including the cost of renting the apartments that the girls work out of, washing towels everyday, condoms, etc.
Even if they bumped everything up by $100 today, they are still providing a lower price with better service while being hotter than the white, latinas and black girls going for $500 and up on PD. I never understood why K-girls were less expensive when most of them blow the PD girls out of the water in terms of both looks and service.
MADD is a no for me dawg. If I feel like playtime Nov. 1st, I'm going. I'm sure most others will too.[/QUOTE]Cost up and quality down across the k-girl orgs. And yeah, there is inflation. For anything I buy (well, almost anything) I'm looking at the value proposition and am more selective. With the current offerings the value just isn't there to justifity the price. It's a personal decision.
IMO the poor quality is the big problem and I don't see that being solved anytime soon. I can think of more than a few girls who I gave mediocre to poor reviews in the past who look pretty damn good when compared to the average offerings today. Sad state of affairs.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6163461]That's it BC. I make a point to remind the uninformed what the girls' *all inclusive* rates were in the Bay, before heading to LA. Currently 280 all-in, with LKS and their HYA / CYAs some how, some way, are still content with 260 all-in.
The market in the Bay increases their rates largely to prevent losing their girls to LA, and other markets. Whereas in LA, POs claim they have to raise non-upcharge rates to prevent losing their girls to upcharge orgs. For this reason, I would emphasize the role that LA POs / orgs / bosses play as well.[/QUOTE] Rent, food, supplies etc. are higher in the SF bay area with the exception of Kgirl pussy. So them holding the rates at 260 or 280 for everything BBFS MSOG included vs So Cal rates as high as 400 plus for the same services just doesn't add up.
[QUOTE=IAmGib1;6163708]Rent, food, supplies etc. are higher in the SF bay area with the exception of Kgirl pussy. So them holding the rates at 260 or 280 for everything BBFS MSOG included vs So Cal rates as high as 400 plus for the same services just doesn't add up.[/QUOTE]If that's the case, how are they able to sustain those rates? More volume to subsidize the cost? I wonder if LA has less volume so they jack up the cost to make up for lost volume. I always wanted to try the girls up there, but with the added cost of flight, car rental , added time to go up there and come back with everything esle, It'll be the same if not more.
[QUOTE=Bince33;6163624]It's inflation. C'mon. Are y'all serious and can't see? Everything is more expensive and rising: gas, milk, eggs, EVERYTHING. This is including the cost of renting the apartments that the girls work out of, washing towels everyday, condoms, etc.
Even if they bumped everything up by $100 today, they are still providing a lower price with better service while being hotter than the white, latinas and black girls going for $500 and up on PD. I never understood why K-girls were less expensive when most of them blow the PD girls out of the water in terms of both looks and service.
MADD is a no for me dawg. If I feel like playtime Nov. 1st, I'm going. I'm sure most others will too.[/QUOTE]You can't see because you simply don't know how much cheaply they charge in a more expensive city like San Francisco, if we all stop going for month or two believe me they would feel it and would lower their rates.
[QUOTE=IAmGib1;6163708]Rent, food, supplies etc. are higher in the SF bay area with the exception of Kgirl pussy. So them holding the rates at 260 or 280 for everything BBFS MSOG included vs So Cal rates as high as 400 plus for the same services just doesn't add up.[/QUOTE]I wonder why the girls even work in the Bay Area! IMHO the girls in the Bay Area are not as nice looking in general!
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6163717]If that's the case, how are they able to sustain those rates? More volume to subsidize the cost? I wonder if LA has less volume so they jack up the cost to make up for lost volume. I always wanted to try the girls up there, but with the added cost of flight, car rental , added time to go up there and come back with everything esle, It'll be the same if not more.[/QUOTE]In Bay Area, the bookers / owners take a smaller cut, so the girls make the same in LA and BA.
Can we get back to reviews and start a different thread talking about dollars and cents!
I've suggest 2 weeks to get them real anxious. Do a month and see them in panic mode. It's all about whether horndogs will stay united or you'll get the one's that undermine the cause and screw it up. If 70% to 90% of the horndogs would hold out for the month the hotrain and the bookers will come to realization and perhaps the scales of greed will tip in the favor horndogs.
[QUOTE=Kaamper;6163185]You guys are going to dilute the impact with all the loopholes and exceptions being proposed. We need to grow a spine. It's really simple. From 11/1 to 11/14 Just. Don't. Go.
If we all do that, believe me, they will take notice.[/QUOTE]
I hear a lot of Kgirls complain about clients in LA compared to other cities.
Hmmmm I wonder why??
[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6163929]I hear a lot of Kgirls complain about clients in LA compared to other cities.
Hmmmm I wonder why??[/QUOTE]LOL, they're free to go elsewhere to work.
[QUOTE=RickySharp;6163804]Can we get back to reviews and start a different thread talking about dollars and cents![/QUOTE]Well, us contributing posters won't be having new reviews due to the current topic in hand. I'm sure you've gained alot from not only my posts, but many of the other posters as well. Feel free to post a review of someone who hasn't been posted or some information we don't know about. I'm always open to anything beneficial for the entire community.
[QUOTE=RickySharp;6163804]Can we get back to reviews and start a different thread talking about dollars and cents![/QUOTE]If price lowers, there will be many more reviews in the future, this boycott has great importance.
[QUOTE=Kaamper;6163185]You guys are going to dilute the impact with all the loopholes and exceptions being proposed. We need to grow a spine. It's really simple. From 11/1 to 11/14 Just. Don't. Go.
If we all do that, believe me, they will take notice.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on this, there are guys fighting in wars right now around the world that don't get to see pussy for months, 2 weeks of not going should be easy enough.
[QUOTE=Bince33;6163624]It's inflation. C'mon. Are y'all serious and can't see? Everything is more expensive and rising: gas, milk, eggs, EVERYTHING. This is including the cost of renting the apartments that the girls work out of, washing towels everyday, condoms, etc.
Even if they bumped everything up by $100 today, they are still providing a lower price with better service while being hotter than the white, latinas and black girls going for $500 and up on PD. I never understood why K-girls were less expensive when most of them blow the PD girls out of the water in terms of both looks and service.
MADD is a no for me dawg. If I feel like playtime Nov. 1st, I'm going. I'm sure most others will too.[/QUOTE]It's definitely not inflation. It only takes 1 monger to book 1 hour to pay the water bill for the entire month. Lets say rent went up 1 k per month vs last year, even then, that extra cost would be offset after 3 mongers booking 1 hour sessions. So really, half a day of appointments from just 1 girl would offset inflation. And most apartments have 2 girls, so even rules out inflation even more.
The price increase is just because they can and they want to. Wealthy mongers are ruining it for us less wealthy mongers because the price increase doesn't effect them and they keep going and keep paying and bookers just keep raising prices because business isn't slowing.
[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6163929]I hear a lot of Kgirls complain about clients in LA compared to other cities.
Hmmmm I wonder why??[/QUOTE]That complaint about LA goes back at least 12 years that I know of!
LA guys are cheap, rough, come in drunk, force themselves, come in 15 -20 minutes late expecting to get the full hr, come in high, dudes letting there bro's come in, etc.
I've heard that from Kgirls going back 12 years.
[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6163929]I hear a lot of Kgirls complain about clients in LA compared to other cities.
[/QUOTE]I was with a non Kgirl Service Provider in O. C. And she was complaining how awful most men in O. C. Were compared to her normal hangout in San Diego. She liked me just fine though, I'm from out of state.
[QUOTE=Bince33;6163624]It's inflation. C'mon. Are y'all serious and can't see? Everything is more expensive and rising: gas, milk, eggs, EVERYTHING. This is including the cost of renting the apartments that the girls work out of, washing towels everyday, condoms, etc.
Even if they bumped everything up by $100 today, they are still providing a lower price with better service while being hotter than the white, latinas and black girls going for $500 and up on PD. I never understood why K-girls were less expensive when most of them blow the PD girls out of the water in terms of both looks and service.
MADD is a no for me dawg. If I feel like playtime Nov. 1st, I'm going. I'm sure most others will too.[/QUOTE]They're always going to be folks who cross the pussy picket line.
[QUOTE=Rollory;6164218]They're always going to be folks who cross the pussy picket line.[/QUOTE]Condoms?! Don't bring that dirty word to this forum. Bareback for life son!
[QUOTE=Goku17;6164112]It's definitely not inflation. It only takes 1 monger to book 1 hour to pay the water bill for the entire month. Lets say rent went up 1 k per month vs last year, even then, that extra cost would be offset after 3 mongers booking 1 hour sessions. So really, half a day of appointments from just 1 girl would offset inflation. And most apartments have 2 girls, so even rules out inflation even more.
The price increase is just because they can and they want to. Wealthy mongers are ruining it for us less wealthy mongers because the price increase doesn't effect them and they keep going and keep paying and bookers just keep raising prices because business isn't slowing.[/QUOTE]The price bumps are not correlated to inflation. Thank you for posting what I wanted to say earlier today.
Comes down to the simple idea of supply and demand.
[QUOTE=Kaamper;6163177]From 11/1 to 11/14 Just. Don't. Go.[/QUOTE]I can get behind this. Don't over complicate the issue. Almost every agency is employing a few girls who are upcharging. Keep it simple and toss out the exceptions. Going without for two weeks [B]should not[/B] pose a problem for any one of us.
[QUOTE=HongKongBoy;6163776]I wonder why the girls even work in the Bay Area! IMHO the girls in the Bay Area are not as nice looking in general![/QUOTE]The client pool. Apparently it's pretty large compared to LA / OC. You have a much better chance to fill up your day / pussy.
[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6163929]I hear a lot of Kgirls complain about clients in LA compared to other cities.
Hmmmm I wonder why??[/QUOTE]It's service work; handling and dealing with troublesome clients is part of their job. The girls can just refuse to see the problematic mongers or request a BL from the booker. If the bookers are doing their part, they should be weeding out mongers or give warnings that can lead to BL for clients that frequently get complaints.
I don't think complaining about price means we're worse than other cities considering the Bay guys complained long before us and kept price down. I am just not that interested in paying upcharges, PSE girls over 320, or cheap BB specials. Some Kgirls said I am one of the top 1% nicest client. Anyone nicer than me is either a doormat or can shower them with money and expensive things.
[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6163929]I hear a lot of Kgirls complain about clients in LA compared to other cities.
Hmmmm I wonder why??[/QUOTE]
Bookers know what I want. They can milk me dry if they give me what I want. Here is my latest review for M Mila. Now who want to convince me SFK Eva is younger hotter than pics?
[QUOTE=RickySharp;6163804]Can we get back to reviews and start a different thread talking about dollars and cents![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6161937]BC already wrote a great review [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31533-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=6154840&viewfull=1#post6154840](click here)[/URL]. CG Mira / M Mila already had 155 TER reviews [URL=https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=363942](click here)[/URL]. Real photoshop pics. I have nothing new to add except to say her best pic is the one with her tits popping out. Those delicious tits are [b]TNT[/b] (Top Natural Tits) for BonerAppetitty. Tits look just as good as pics and soft and youthful like a baby bottom.
Great attitude. Good service. She's among the top tier in looks for me currently. My Tier A. Looks better and younger than Mini but YMMV. Mini's rate is better tho.
Her contact: [URL=https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/mira](click here)[/URL] 5'3" 32C natural 103lbs[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6164285]I can get behind this. Don't over complicate the issue. Almost every agency is employing a few girls who are upcharging. Keep it simple and toss out the exceptions. Going without for two weeks [B]should not[/B] pose a problem for any one of us.[/QUOTE]All you guys who think that this boycott will have any impact are like climate change activists. Won't do a damn thing. Stop telling other people what to do or how much to spend. You think they'll roll back prices to pre-pandemic? Keep dreaming.
[QUOTE=Bince33;6163624]It's inflation. C'mon. Are y'all serious and can't see? Everything is more expensive and rising: gas, milk, eggs, EVERYTHING. This is including the cost of renting the apartments that the girls work out of, washing towels everyday, condoms, etc.
Even if they bumped everything up by $100 today, they are still providing a lower price with better service while being hotter than the white, latinas and black girls going for $500 and up on PD. I never understood why K-girls were less expensive when most of them blow the PD girls out of the water in terms of both looks and service.
MADD is a no for me dawg. If I feel like playtime Nov. 1st, I'm going. I'm sure most others will too.[/QUOTE]Don't confuse price increases due to inflation and a la carte pricing due to greed. We are focusing and protesting the later. Think of it this way: I go to a dealership to get an oil change. It costs me $75 and includes fluid fill up, tire rotation, brake inspection, and oil change. The next time I go, it's still $75 but only includes brake inspection and oil change. If I want my fluids topped off and tires rotation, it's an extra $25. That is essentially what we are getting from Norcal transplants who were all inclusive up north and some local girls who charge extra for MSOG.
Kgirls have always been known for their better value proposition versus comparable peer groups. It's one of their core selling points. The model and efficiency it brings helps lower their price. And speculating here, their limited time here forces them to leverage lower prices get as much business as possible for the girls. Without sugarcoating it, the kgirl model is a pimp system applying lean and just-in-time manufacturing principles to the extreme.
I haven't confirmed yet but I think that's her. When LA had Hana, OC had Dahee / Kate. She was pretty popular at that time. I refused to pay 20 BB upcharge when I saw her tho.
[QUOTE=Cptrecinos;6164263]The price bumps are not correlated to inflation. Thank you for posting what I wanted to say earlier today.
Comes down to the simple idea of supply and demand.[/QUOTE]I disagree. Check out my previous posts on this issue to see why the base rate of kgirls right now are pretty much in line with what you should expect when adjusted for inflation. It's the a la carte style fragmentation of services which needs to be ridiculed and called out. It's just greed when such services were already there in the first place.
I say this in jest but how would you feel if they starting implementing a +$50 for BBBJ option. And for all you who are going to complain that I'm giving them kgirls horrendous ideas. Trust me, they already thought about it. They just didn't want to hang themselves while infuriating their clients. Who knows, maybe these up charges is a way to prime us to ultimately accept such an option. Protest now before we reach that point.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6164319]It's the a la carte style fragmentation of services which needs to be ridiculed and called out. It's just greed when such services were already there in the first place.
I say this in jest but how would you feel if they starting implementing a +$50 for BBBJ option. And for all you who are going to complain that I'm giving them kgirls horrendous ideas. Trust me, they already thought about it. They just didn't want to hang themselves while infuriating their clients. Who knows, maybe these up charges is a way to prime us to ultimately accept such an option. Protest now before we reach that point.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure we've seen upcharges for cip.
Guys, it is very simple, go see whatever you can get under 320 BBFS or CFS, once it goes over 320 with upcharge, add ons, MSOG, those are a no go.
It is all up to you, we want to start an idea, a collective effort instead just random stop, not here to argue as will it work or not.
Who ever felt the same way as I do, welcome to join hands.
Tired of explaining why we are doing this, you all know why, that feeling driving home. Not going to repeat myself.
Inflation? Trust me, inflation has nothing to do with it, SF living cost is way more but somehow cheaper pussy?
Once again, it is up to you my brother, we stop for two weeks, more pussy for you, yay!!
But remember what we said here when you drive home from a rebrand, ajumah, bad service, heavily photoshopped, bad attitude and out of shape chick that was 320 but you paid 420 for that BBFSCIP.
If there is no movement and collective effort, things will never change.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6164310]I haven't confirmed yet but I think that's her. When LA had Hana, OC had Dahee / Kate. She was pretty popular at that time. I refused to pay 20 BB upcharge when I saw her tho.[/QUOTE]Based on the stats and pic of her in the denim set, it sure looks like it. When she debuted in OC July 2020, she was 260+40 bb. A year later she raised into 280+100 bb.
[QUOTE=Goku17;6164079]I agree with you on this, there are guys fighting in wars right now around the world that don't get to see pussy for months, 2 weeks of not going should be easy enough.[/QUOTE]I bet Putin gets good pussy as he once said his country has the best hookers.