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Hey Guys, I need your help. I am not that knowledgeable about how some scams work and may just be overly cautious. I am back on Ashley and had a good experience with one gal who travels and others are responding but it always a slog to filter through. Virtually everyone who responds wants to immediately jump on WA or TG. I've used them for some international communication but of course as myself. Here's my question:

What are the scam possibilities of giving my WA number other than the obvious being able to look up my business and have it route back to me? What are your suggestions? Am I being too paranoid?

Thanks in advance.

Soca.

[QUOTE=Soca99;7275198]Hey Guys, I need your help. I am not that knowledgeable about how some scams work and may just be overly cautious. I am back on Ashley and had a good experience with one gal who travels and others are responding but it always a slog to filter through. Virtually everyone who responds wants to immediately jump on WA or TG. I've used them for some international communication but of course as myself. Here's my question:

What are the scam possibilities of giving my WA number other than the obvious being able to look up my business and have it route back to me? What are your suggestions? Am I being too paranoid?

Thanks in advance.

Soca.[/QUOTE]I thought WhatsApp uses your pone number- I used it before. Unless I did something wrong.

[QUOTE=Soca99;7275198]Hey Guys, I need your help. I am not that knowledgeable about how some scams work and may just be overly cautious. I am back on Ashley and had a good experience with one gal who travels and others are responding but it always a slog to filter through. Virtually everyone who responds wants to immediately jump on WA or TG. I've used them for some international communication but of course as myself. Here's my question:

What are the scam possibilities of giving my WA number other than the obvious being able to look up my business and have it route back to me? What are your suggestions? Am I being too paranoid?

Thanks in advance.

Soca.[/QUOTE]I don't like it because it links your real name with it. I never give these girls any real info about myself. Yes, WhatsApp is good for international texting but I'm not seeing girls internationally. It's my opinion that the less real info you give out the safer you are in the hobby. I've gotten by for years just using TextNow as my burner number. I delete the app when I don't need it and reinstall when I do. You can't be anonymous Joe with WhatsApp.

Duck.

[QUOTE=DuckMam;7276327]I don't like it because it links your real name with it. I never give these girls any real info about myself. Yes, WhatsApp is good for international texting but I'm not seeing girls internationally. It's my opinion that the less real info you give out the safer you are in the hobby. I've gotten by for years just using TextNow as my burner number. I delete the app when I don't need it and reinstall when I do. You can't be anonymous Joe with WhatsApp.

Duck.[/QUOTE]Textnow uses WiFi unless you buy the SIM card. If someone wants to find you, they can, unless you're bouncing around a couple of VPNs.

[QUOTE=Soca99;7275198]Hey Guys, I need your help. I am not that knowledgeable about how some scams work and may just be overly cautious. I am back on Ashley and had a good experience with one gal who travels and others are responding but it always a slog to filter through. Virtually everyone who responds wants to immediately jump on WA or TG. I've used them for some international communication but of course as myself. Here's my question:

What are the scam possibilities of giving my WA number other than the obvious being able to look up my business and have it route back to me? What are your suggestions? Am I being too paranoid?.[/QUOTE]TLDR: Do not give them your WhatsApp or Telegram.

WhatsApp: Uses your real phone #.

Telegram: Will try to require you to connect your phone address book. The app is very limited if you don't do this, and on Android you literally cannot add users any other way. They have to add you.

AM seems to be inundated with fake profiles now, constantly winking, sending "pay to open" messages, etc. And if you do respond, most immediately want to take you to WhatsApp, Telegram or others. I think most of this is a scam, and you can usually tell by the poorly translated English, so my advice is to keep them in AM for several conversations before you exit. Ask them local geography questions and other uncommon questions to get a feel for their English Language skills.

The scammers want to reverse link your number to Facebook or Social Media if they can, and expose your true identity, and then extort you, in my cynical opinion. I had it done to me once through Skype.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;7277247]If someone wants to find you, they can[/QUOTE]Please explain how.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;7277247]Textnow uses WiFi unless you buy the SIM card. If someone wants to find you, they can, unless you're bouncing around a couple of VPNs.[/QUOTE]I'm never on wifi when I'm using it, always when I'm away from the house / office. I delete it from my phone when I'm not mongering, so not sure what you're trying to tell me. I use an android device.

Does anyone have any info on her? I can only find one review and its basically. "Pretty but bad performance".

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[QUOTE=HouseOfLeaving;7278110]Does anyone have any info on her? I can only find one review and its basically. "Pretty but bad performance".

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/183395671[/URL][/QUOTE]Good communicating but that's the only thing she's good at. Mechanical, uninterested attitude. I would not repeat.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;7278130]Good communicating but that's the only thing she's good at. Mechanical, uninterested attitude. I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]I'll second that motion. I could never figure out what all the hype was with her, P.S. She not in all that great shape, she has a poochy. Croutch.

[QUOTE=DuckMam;7277770]I'm never on wifi when I'm using it, always when I'm away from the house / office. I delete it from my phone when I'm not mongering, so not sure what you're trying to tell me. I use an android device.[/QUOTE]I'm just reading what the app says when I download it.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;7278130]Good communicating but that's the only thing she's good at. Mechanical, uninterested attitude. I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]Yeah that about tracks. Thanks I may still try her, not sure. I'm not really afraid of boring sex as opposed to getting stung. Just paranoid.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;7278130]Good communicating but that's the only thing she's good at. Mechanical, uninterested attitude. I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]Very uninterested but sometimes that's ok. Those are pretty current pictures. When she's in Kenwood it's typically a 5 min drive so I'm good with that in a pinch.

Thanks I really appreciate the feedback. Seems legit. Need to think if there's better options. Blue Ash is better than driving to the hood LOL.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;7278869]Very uninterested but sometimes that's ok. Those
are pretty current pictures. When she's in Kenwood it's typically a 5 min drive so I'm good with that in a pinch.[/QUOTE]

I've been talking with her but not sure she is legit. Anyone know her.

[QUOTE=FirmButts;7278893]I've been talking with her but not sure she is legit. Anyone know her.[/QUOTE]P.S. I have seen her in pictures with ashley. The known thief. Doesn't mean she is. Doesn't mean she is can't be or worse yet LEO.

There are so many free WiFi connections out there now. Almost all fast food joints, even hospitals. Just pull in the lot and connect, but I also NEVER connect to the internet without my VPN connected. Mullvad VPN is the best I've found, and it's $5 a month. They don't auto bill you, so if you take a break for a month or 3, you don't have to pay. Just load up your account when you're ready again.

COULD someone track you down while using those 2 things? I supposed if the CCP or NSA was all that interested in your mongering habits, yeah, but BCSO doesn't have THAT kind of tech.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;7278383]I'm just reading what the app says when I download it.[/QUOTE]

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Milford area. Incall in trailor park. She still is good looking but not as good as she use to be back in her EE days. I've seen here on and off for years. She kinda has a bad rep but I have never had problems with her. Good head and decent pussy. $100 BBFS cip.

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Milford area. Incall in trailor park. She still is good looking but not as good as she use to be back in her EE days. I've seen here on and off for years. She kinda has a bad rep but I have never had problems with her. Good head and decent pussy. $100 BBFS cip.[/QUOTE]Isn't this the girl someone was just saying is working with a boyfriend ripping people off?

If you don't mind me asking, do you or anyone else know anyone good / clean who operates out of an apartment? I haven't done anything with an SP in the country before and the Cincinnati news part of this site is full of people doing undercover police stings in hotel parking lots in the Blue Ash area. Apparently they don't even need to watch the money exchange hands now. Not trying to freak anyone out, just trying to stay out of trouble.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;7278130]Good communicating but that's the only thing she's good at. Mechanical, uninterested attitude. I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CincyPipeMan;7278205]I'll second that motion. I could never figure out what all the hype was with her, P.S. She not in all that great shape, she has a poochy. Croutch.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GinCincy;7278939]Isn't this the girl someone was just saying is working with a boyfriend ripping people off?[/QUOTE]Don't think so.

[QUOTE=GinCincy;7278939]Isn't this the girl someone was just saying is working with a boyfriend ripping people off?[/QUOTE]Yes check SlamT's report on the latest page of the Cincinnati Ripoff Reports thread post #1880 you'll see the picture with the flower tattoo on her ass. I'm not sure how to post a link to the post.

Check the Cincinnati Ripoff Reports thread on the latest page report #1880 SlamT reports on her. He also included pictures showing that flower tattoo on her ass.

[QUOTE=GinCincy;7278939]Isn't this the girl someone was just saying is working with a boyfriend ripping people off?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CrazySteve45;7279038]Don't think so.[/QUOTE]

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Milford area. Incall in trailor park. She still is good looking but not as good as she use to be back in her EE days. I've seen here on and off for years. She kinda has a bad rep but I have never had problems with her. Good head and decent pussy. $100 BBFS cip.[/QUOTE]

DS,

Thank you for the response and detail. Just poking around, with an Android, I was able to set up a second TG acct with an option not to include (my network) phone numbers but it seems like just another place to text since I am not trying to do video calls. I set it up with my Text Now #. I try to get a sooner than later f2 f meet or pass. WA needs real numbers (not text now) but will take Google numbers. Soooo I know but will not do more because it just doesn't pass the sniff test as to why.

I had a UTR a few years back. Somehow I got sniped by someone in a Nigerian internet cafe according to my UTRs nephew who happened to be in the NSA world who traced everything back. Somehow he blew them up, wiped from my phone what he thought was a virus from an airport charging station. The detail they knew was getting scary and the extortion was close to triggering from the tone of the comments so anything sketch or illogical I try to avoid.

Thanks for the all the help from others as well.

[QUOTE=DaveSalem;7277710]TLDR: Do not give them your WhatsApp or Telegram.

WhatsApp: Uses your real phone #.

Telegram: Will try to require you to connect your phone address book. The app is very limited if you don't do this, and on Android you literally cannot add users any other way. They have to add you.

AM seems to be inundated with fake profiles now, constantly winking, sending "pay to open" messages, etc. And if you do respond, most immediately want to take you to WhatsApp, Telegram or others. I think most of this is a scam, and you can usually tell by the poorly translated English, so my advice is to keep them in AM for several conversations before you exit. Ask them local geography questions and other uncommon questions to get a feel for their English Language skills.

The scammers want to reverse link your number to Facebook or Social Media if they can, and expose your true identity, and then extort you, in my cynical opinion. I had it done to me once through Skype.[/QUOTE]

Don't do it! Incall west side I want in. House was filthy with no power. She claimed she was the only one there. Went in sat on the bed. Laid the donation on the dresser. She got up looking for batteries for her flashlight. Walked out the room. Old black dude walked in. Didn't say much maybe he was scared because I was twice his size. I went in the living room where he was and he tried to tell me he was the only one there. And I shouldn't be in his house I said I wasn't leaving till I got my money back. After about 30 minutes she comes jumping out from the other room threatening me and shoved me out the door. I didn't sat in the driveway and refused to leave until she gave me my money back. Eventually, I just left. Stay away.

[QUOTE=Jdhf92;7281130]Don't do it! Incall west side I want in. House was filthy with no power. She claimed she was the only one there. Went in sat on the bed. Laid the donation on the dresser. She got up looking for batteries for her flashlight. Walked out the room. Old black dude walked in. Didn't say much maybe he was scared because I was twice his size. I went in the living room where he was and he tried to tell me he was the only one there. And I shouldn't be in his house I said I wasn't leaving till I got my money back. After about 30 minutes she comes jumping out from the other room threatening me and shoved me out the door. I didn't sat in the driveway and refused to leave until she gave me my money back. Eventually, I just left. Stay away.[/QUOTE]You should post this in the rip off reports, also, picpress picture of ad and lady in ad if possible and still up.

[QUOTE=Jdhf92;7281130]Don't do it! Incall west side I want in. House was filthy with no power. She claimed she was the only one there. Went in sat on the bed. Laid the donation on the dresser. She got up looking for batteries for her flashlight. Walked out the room. Old black dude walked in. Didn't say much maybe he was scared because I was twice his size. I went in the living room where he was and he tried to tell me he was the only one there. And I shouldn't be in his house I said I wasn't leaving till I got my money back. After about 30 minutes she comes jumping out from the other room threatening me and shoved me out the door. I didn't sat in the driveway and refused to leave until she gave me my money back. Eventually, I just left. Stay away.[/QUOTE]Is there a link to an ad so we can figure out who she is? I see that this is your first post on this site. I hope that wasn't your first monger experience. If so, wow, what a shitty way to start.

[QUOTE=Jdhf92;7281130]Don't do it! Incall west side I want in. House was filthy with no power. She claimed she was the only one there. Went in sat on the bed. Laid the donation on the dresser. She got up looking for batteries for her flashlight. Walked out the room. Old black dude walked in. Didn't say much maybe he was scared because I was twice his size. I went in the living room where he was and he tried to tell me he was the only one there. And I shouldn't be in his house I said I wasn't leaving till I got my money back. After about 30 minutes she comes jumping out from the other room threatening me and shoved me out the door. I didn't sat in the driveway and refused to leave until she gave me my money back. Eventually, I just left. Stay away.[/QUOTE]If you bother to read through this forum it is stated over and over again to never pay until the deed is done. Never, ever lay your money on the dresser that's a sure way to never see it again. Use this as a learning experience.

[QUOTE=Jdhf92;7281130]Don't do it! Incall west side I want in. House was filthy with no power. She claimed she was the only one there. Went in sat on the bed. Laid the donation on the dresser. She got up looking for batteries for her flashlight. Walked out the room. Old black dude walked in. Didn't say much maybe he was scared because I was twice his size. I went in the living room where he was and he tried to tell me he was the only one there. And I shouldn't be in his house I said I wasn't leaving till I got my money back. After about 30 minutes she comes jumping out from the other room threatening me and shoved me out the door. I didn't sat in the driveway and refused to leave until she gave me my money back. Eventually, I just left. Stay away.[/QUOTE]Poor Megan looks like Bevis. Stay away and never pay first!

"I am Cornholio! I need TP for my Bunghole. ".

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Anyone seen her. She looks familiar, might have gone by a different name before.

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I have a feeling this is who he was talking about.

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[QUOTE=Jdhf92;7281130]Don't do it! Incall west side I want in. House was filthy with no power. She claimed she was the only one there. Went in sat on the bed. Laid the donation on the dresser. She got up looking for batteries for her flashlight. Walked out the room. Old black dude walked in. Didn't say much maybe he was scared because I was twice his size. I went in the living room where he was and he tried to tell me he was the only one there. And I shouldn't be in his house I said I wasn't leaving till I got my money back. After about 30 minutes she comes jumping out from the other room threatening me and shoved me out the door. I didn't sat in the driveway and refused to leave until she gave me my money back. Eventually, I just left. Stay away.[/QUOTE]

On a whim texted her # to see if she was in town and w / in 10 minutes got response of yes. Some questions back-forth describing ourselves and we agreed to get together the next day.

She asked that I text an hour ahead, which I did, and I was on the way. Arrived at decent hotel and holy crap. She was on time and ready!!

She's mature and petite, except for the man-mades. A bit of chit chat (we're similar in age so easy to get comfortable) and off to the races. Lot of fun and I think we wore each other out.

Will definitely repeat.

Comms were great; hotel fine; experience 7/10. If you like older and willing try her out.

She goes back and forth to Florida so a bit of hit and miss.

[QUOTE=Tukoo;7281498]Anyone seen her. She looks familiar, might have gone by a different name before.

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To anyone who has been seeing or wanted to see Saffy, unfortunately she OD'd and has passed away.

[QUOTE=Seething;7282342]To anyone who has been seeing or wanted to see Saffy, unfortunately she OD'd and has passed away.[/QUOTE]Oh, wow! I only saw her once and it was quite a while ago but I always thought she was kind of cool, but in a weird sort of way. It's sad how these girls mess their lives up.

[QUOTE=Seething;7282342]To anyone who has been seeing or wanted to see Saffy, unfortunately she OD'd and has passed away.[/QUOTE]If true, unfortunately no surprise.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;7282446]Oh, wow! I only saw her once and it was quite a while ago but I always thought she was kind of cool, but in a weird sort of way. It's sad how these girls mess their lives up.[/QUOTE]I never hooked up with Saffy, however I'm not surprised by this news. After reading all the recent ads that stated she nodded out during appointments it seems like this was inevitable. It's sad that with all the help available today that these folks can't overcome this tragic lifestyle. I am particularly saddened because of all the comments that she was a nice lady and was very personable. Sincere condolences to her family and friends. Sad, sad, sad indeed! RIP.

[QUOTE=Seething;7282342]To anyone who has been seeing or wanted to see Saffy, unfortunately she OD'd and has passed away.[/QUOTE]Very sad. I saw her multiple times but not recently since her new place. She was always really nice to me and I enjoyed myself. Everyone is fighting demons- just a sad reality when something like this happens. My condolences to anyone who may be affected by her passing.

Wow, I have known her for 3-4 years and seen her about 6 times. I always had a good time. We are both from Dayton and I saw her up here as well, 000000000000000 when she visited her dad and brother. I drove her back and forth several times. I think, but could be wrong that she just recently got into the hard stuff. Years ago she just smoked pot with me and I saw no other signs of anything else. And, I do search these girls apartments from time to time. I also have quite the photo / video collection of her. Back then, her body was rocking. She had put on some weight recently. My guess is she started doing meth / fetty and having little experience with it, overdosed herself. Does anyone have any real details? I know her real name, hell, I have been to her Dads house. I just don't see anything on the internet. God bless her soul, she was kind and nice. Her look was just a facade to who she really was.

[QUOTE=Seething;7282342]To anyone who has been seeing or wanted to see Saffy, unfortunately she OD'd and has passed away.[/QUOTE]Oh man, this one really hits home. I liked Saffy a lot and wish I had seen her more. We always vibed and it felt better than your typical BnG.

This one to me is a real tragedy.