Co-operating with LE and wires
I received reliable intel. from another SM that a regular we all know had blabbed to him about her court date coming up - and about girls being asked to wear a wire. Now I wasn't going to broadcast it and get everybody worried, but as now have a very similar report coming from another SM, I am thinking that the Richmond LE are trying a new tactic.
Even though word would spread on this board real fast if a certain girl we all know is wearing a wire -- it would efectivly taint every "regular" and get us all scared.
I know I for one that I will be keeping real clear !!! Anybody got any suggestions about how we should combat this new tactic -- do we need to pat the girls down for a wire BEFORE saying anything that might incriminate ourselves?
GW
[QUOTE=Member #3308]I saw Nina last night for a short appt. [url]http://richmond.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real_sensual_treat_22/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1220282[/url]
$80q, 150hh, 200h. She has several pics posted in different ads on Backpage. She has a face pic if you search and that is definitely her. Her stats are accurate, 5'8 about 140lbs. She's a cute girl, a solid 6. The ass shown in the pics is hers. Had a good quickie session, CBJ and Doggie to finish. More interesting though is some info that I got from her.
She was ultra paranoid about me being LE on the phone and after I got there. We went through the std touch-me, touch-you routine. After she calmed down some I asked if she had had problems with LE recently. Apparently she got busted a couple of days after she got to Richmond. She has a court date coming up very soon. After she got clipped her attorney and the RPD asked her if she would be willing to work with the dept. She said that she declined, which was obvious by what she was willing to do yesterday. She has several charges that resulted from the bust, including some sort of possession charge. I'm not sure what she is facing, but who knows if she'll be offered the opportunity to work with LE again. I'm not sure but I wanted to give folks a heads up. Don't want to disparage her, in fact I'd recommed her, however, if anybody decides to take the plunge you may want to keep this in mind. Of if you don't see her posting for a few weeks you'll know why.
Safe hunting[/QUOTE]
Avoiding stings and busts
[QUOTE=Superman06]Personally, I think if we know of any provider helping LE in trade of lesser charges we should publish their names.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but by the time it's published, the damage is done and the info is a dinosaur.
I'm sensing paranoia creeping in here..
Of course, if you stick to seeing well reviewed providers, especially those who screen their customers (or work for an agency that does), you'll miss out on 99.5% of the stings. In organized stings, LE likes to control the situation from start to finish. They set up fake ad, get a motel room under surveill, use female LEO as decoy, and reel in the mongers in one after the other. The other 0.5% is that rare situation where the lady is busted and is pressured to flip on the spot to give up her appointments for later that same day or the next. LE loses a lot of control and this just isn't the normal way it goes down.. Further, if the lady does flip, she's have to know that her "career" is over.. So that'd be a really desperate move, especially for a well reviewed provider, who is more career minded then a typical unreviewed CL or BP girl. LE are generally not in the business of busting and then recruiting local providers to wear wires. They have plenty of trained female cops to do this when they really want to go after the monger crowd.
By the way, the whole bit of getting into a room and then "proving" you're not LE by stripping down or groping something is really silly.. Guys or gals, understand that once you are inside a room with LE, you are going to get arrested. They will simply log their arrest and let the rest of the legal system determine if you are guilty or not. More than the eventual conviction or acquittal, the mere fact that you got arrested is probably enough to ruin most folks' day.
Stay safe.
Just showing up means you could be going downtown
[QUOTE=Max Steel]Would it be feasible to not say anything at all?
For instance, putting the money down, letting her count (or whatever), and then getting into it without saying a word? This would be a pain in the ass, but rather that than having to deal with LE.
They can't go after people for "merely" having sex.[/QUOTE]"Having sex" isn't the crime.. It's solitication. Offering to pay for it. You don't actually get to have sex with the female LEO before she busts you. Just showing up is "furtherance" of intent to commit a crime.
So, Yes, if you see the ad, make the appointment, show up to the room, knock on the door, have a pile of cash in your pocket, and it's a LE sting.. You are going to get arrested, yes, EVEN IF YOU DON'T SAY A WORD at that point.
The fake ad does a lot of the talking (to the jury). Your confiscated cell phone's call records will do more talking (to the jury). You weren't entrapped, you showed up, you had a wad of cash in your pocket.. There's very little left to the imagination.
If you were on the jury, what would you conclude? You showed to pay to play and yes, that's enough to convict.
LE's job is just to make the arrests and not screw up the evidence. The court system will take the next steps.
Again, it's not the eventual judgement as to guilt or innocence, it's the arrest. The search, the cuffs, the miranda, the trip downtown for a booking and a call to your lawyer, the mug shot, the media coverage if you are a high profile community member, bail, explaining it to your SO, the embarassment, perhaps troubles at work, the losses are potentially staggering just for the ARREST.
Do your homework before making the call!
Are you guys talking about "Nina"?
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She is advertising outcalls. If they are doing that, isn't that pretty much no chance shes compromised, or no?
