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If you guys are wondering, I found it / her.
She is in Lake Mary area, in-call her place.
My 3rd. trip to see Trish.
My limit is usually 2.
This lil firm tanned body feels and moves soo gooooood.

She is unemployed for now and needs help.

She will require a pic from you before meeting or don't waste her time.

As usual Sr. Members PM for info.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]The situation with Amber taking money from Samuelsmith hurts us all. It brings about distrust and makes us start to question each other. Amber has the opportunity to make it right and restore that trust. Let's hope that is what she does.

A few years back I was in Tampa and called upon a well-known young lady and star of a few featured films to join me at my hotel. We got along great so I asked her to stay a few more hours informing her that I was a little short on funds and would need to make a bank run later. She said no problem. Later I went to the ATM and the florist. She appreciated the roses and I appreciated her trust in me.

A couple years later I was back in Tampa and stopped at one of those lingerie places in Drew Park. Who comes out but the same girl. A new born baby and a few more pounds, but the same girl. She starts apologizing about her appearance (she had acne from changes in her hormones) and I cut her off. She indeed was the same girl to me. The one who had trusted me. That is the girl I saw.[/QUOTE]First, in the spirit of the Samuelsmith's report; Post #1141. Which initiated this string of replies; my empathy for the situation that you experienced. Back in the mid-1990s, prior to access of the collective knowledge and experience of USASG, a friend of mine also experienced that familiar scam. "help pay for the room, get a discount, etc", with an itinerant entertainer. Though his contribution and loss wasn't a great as Samualsmith's, one of many valuable lessons and scams was learned after that one episode. Hopefully others will learn and recognize this and similar scams. In addition, in the temporal circle that we play in, seniority and experience is no guaranteed protection against scams. Both illegal and legal.

Second, Goddess's contribution; Post #1119; shows that unethical behavior can/does occur against entertainer's also. Here's to hoping that everyone puts a security code on their phone. Whether it's a power-on code, or "access tools. I. E. Phone book, I'm, VM, etc" code. With the prevelant use of phones as daytimer, contact, net access, GPS; it would be in one's best interest to protect this valuable resource from illicit prying/browsing.

Finally, a common theme among the above referenced posts, in addition to ExecT's quoted post is "trust". Genuine or perceived. Though both Samualsmith and Goddess experienced this breach in trust; from both sides of the fence; ExecT's experience displayed the trust that can be experienced between participants when "trust" is coupled with respect.

Thanks for contributing to the collective experience and knowledge.

"Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none." William Shakespeare/Playwright

"Remember, there are no mistakes, only lessons. Love yourself, trust your choices, and everything is possible." Dr. Cherie-Carter Scotts/Motivational Speaker

"Few delights can equal the mere presence of one whom we trust utterly." George MacDonald/Theologian

Good luck to all as we make our way in this interesting world!

[QUOTE=Samuelsmith]Just wanted to give you a heads up on a real deal. Saw Vanessa recently, and she is the real deal. Everything with gusto and truly enjoys her work. Also has advertisement under Eros (Eva), but better price through CL.

[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ads/1412049848.html[/url]

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

(The above quote is from the Real Deal thread, I moved the quote here because I do not want to add to Real Deal clutter)

SS, would you please describe this woman's appearance in detail? The reason I ask this is because last week, a glowing review was written about her on TER. Because of that review, I called the number and made an appointment with "Vanessa." I put her name in quotes because the woman I saw did not match the review. I think they are switching out different women and calling them all Vanessa. The one I got was beautiful, so I stayed. It was a mostly positive experience, but nothing like the review. I was dissapointed becuase I wanted to see the woman and have the experience that was described in the TER review.

"Vanessa" also advertises on BP. After my visit, I did some searching there and saw several ads using that name and phone number, some for a woman with dark hair, some for a woman with blonde hair. I now think some (if not all) of the photos are fakes.

[QUOTE=Warpfactor69](The above quote is from the Real Deal thread, I moved the quote here because I do not want to add to Real Deal clutter)

SS, would you please describe this woman's appearance in detail? The reason I ask this is because last week, a glowing review was written about her on TER. Because of that review, I called the number and made an appointment with "Vanessa." I put her name in quotes because the woman I saw did not match the review. I think they are switching out different women and calling them all Vanessa. The one I got was beautiful, so I stayed. It was a mostly positive experience, but nothing like the review. I was dissapointed becuase I wanted to see the woman and have the experience that was described in the TER review.

"Vanessa" also advertises on BP. After my visit, I did some searching there and saw several ads using that name and phone number, some for a woman with dark hair, some for a woman with blonde hair. I now think some (if not all) of the photos are fakes.[/QUOTE]

I think Warp brings up excellent points. Vanessa does not show her face in the ad posted by Sam Smith. How do we know if the pic is accurate, or if it is even the same girl?

Sam seems like a ncie guy, but he comes off like an easy grader. When he says someone is a real deal, that does not mean much to me, because he has endorsed other ladies that I think are more raw deal than real deal.

It would be nice to get at least two positive reports on a provider before bumping her automatcally to real deal. It is an insult to actual real deal ladies like Hanna, Kelly, Nikki, Autria, Jenna, Goddess, Saphire, Tinaa and others to lump providers like Vanessa in with them. We need some quality control.

[QUOTE=Otwist]I think Warp brings up excellent points. Vanessa does not show her face in the ad posted by Sam Smith. How do we know if the pic is accurate, or if it is even the same girl?

Sam seems like a ncie guy, but he comes off like an easy grader. When he says someone is a real deal, that does not mean much to me, because he has endorsed other ladies that I think are more raw deal than real deal.

It would be nice to get at least two positive reports on a provider before bumping her automatcally to real deal. It is an insult to actual real deal ladies like Hanna, Kelly, Nikki, Autria, Jenna, Goddess, Saphire, Tinaa and others to lump providers like Vanessa in with them. We need some quality control.[/QUOTE]

If I posted in the wrong forum I apologize. I was just trying to provide some information to the group without exposing the girl to having too much information out there. I saw in prior posts that people were criticized for giving too much information rather than too little.

I can tell you that Vanessa (the girl who I have seen - now twice) provides most acronyms with gusto. I cannot comment about Greek as I do not partake. As for her photos, don't know if the CL photo is accurate but those on Eros (Eva), I believe, are her. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I'll let you decide for yourself if Vanessa is right for you. If you have more personal questions please feel free to pm me.

[url]http://www.erostampa.com/files/132156.htm[/url]

As for me being an easy grader, I try to be selective, so most of my comments are indeed positive. I can say that I do not necessarily agree with all picks in the real deal section as being right for me -- but tastes, requests and preferences are purely subjective.

Next time, I'll list in the CL reviews section when a girl is first being posted on here. Perhaps that's the better choice. Waiting for 2 reviews from different posters before posting in the Real Deal section sounds like a good idea to me.

I've now moved my post to the CL reviews section - hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Samuelsmith]If I posted in the wrong forum I apologize. I was just trying to provide some information to the group without exposing the girl to having too much information out there. I saw in prior posts that people were criticized for giving too much information rather than too little.

I can tell you that Vanessa (the girl who I have seen - now twice) provides most acronyms with gusto. I cannot comment about Greek as I do not partake. As for her photos, don't know if the CL photo is accurate but those on Eros (Eva), I believe, are her. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I'll let you decide for yourself if Vanessa is right for you. If you have more personal questions please feel free to pm me.

[url]http://www.erostampa.com/files/132156.htm[/url]

As for me being an easy grader, I try to be selective, so most of my comments are indeed positive. I can say that I do not necessarily agree with all picks in the real deal section as being right for me -- but tastes, requests and preferences are purely subjective.

Next time, I'll list in the CL reviews section when a girl is first being posted on here. Perhaps that's the better choice. Waiting for 2 reviews from different posters before posting in the Real Deal section sounds like a good idea to me.

I've now moved my post to the CL reviews section - hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

SS, I was not critisizing you for posting in Real Deal. I brought my question here instead of there because Real Deal is only for recommendations, not questions, comments, or follow up posts.

I had a question, so I posted it here.

And my question is: In your own words, please describe the appearance of the woman you saw. You know...how old, how tall, color and length of hair, etc. I'll post the description of the "Vanessa" I saw after you do. If they are switching out women, then we all need to know it. I did notice some of the BP ads list Altamonte and Downtown Orlando, so they may be using two locations (most of the BP ads have been removed). Please post your reply here. You can also PM if you wish, but I would like the post describing her to be here, so everyone will be in the loop.

Back to the Real Deal thing...If you feel she met the criteria, there is nothing wrong with you posting there. The woman I met was beautiful and had a nice body, but it was not the woman described in the TER review and I did not have the experience that the reviewer had. It pisses me off that they may be switching out different women.

Real Deal criteria:

As pictured or described
warm personality with no attitude
professional in appearance, surroundings, cleanliness, etc.
respect for time

[QUOTE=Samuelsmith]If I posted in the wrong forum I apologize. I was just trying to provide some information to the group without exposing the girl to having too much information out there. I saw in prior posts that people were criticized for giving too much information rather than too little.

I can tell you that Vanessa (the girl who I have seen - now twice) provides most acronyms with gusto. I cannot comment about Greek as I do not partake. As for her photos, don't know if the CL photo is accurate but those on Eros (Eva), I believe, are her. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I'll let you decide for yourself if Vanessa is right for you. If you have more personal questions please feel free to pm me.

[url]http://www.erostampa.com/files/132156.htm[/url]

As for me being an easy grader, I try to be selective, so most of my comments are indeed positive. I can say that I do not necessarily agree with all picks in the real deal section as being right for me -- but tastes, requests and preferences are purely subjective.

Next time, I'll list in the CL reviews section when a girl is first being posted on here. Perhaps that's the better choice. Waiting for 2 reviews from different posters before posting in the Real Deal section sounds like a good idea to me.

I've now moved my post to the CL reviews section - hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone is looking for any grapic details in the open forum, that is usually best handled with PM's to only people you trust. Your original review is fine. I just think it is best if we have a few different posters writing positive reviews on a lady before she goes in the real deal section. The ladies I mentioned in my earlier post all are well reviewed many times.

Sam, you are right, we all have different tastes when it comes to women. I usually prefer women in their late twenties or older and I like them with a well developed figure. The young and skinny ones are not for me, but I understand the attraction that others have for them.

Real deal ladies can provide quality experiences to a wide range of clients. That is what makes them real deal. They come in all shapes and sizes, of all races and of varying ages. Being an escort is a very tough job. Often, the young ones will start out great, but the difficulties of the job will get to them and their performances will suffer.

That is what we have seen lately. Ladies not showing up, having their boyfriends texting clients to go on beer runs and stealing money. In each instance, the lady was a young provider in the real deal thread. It does not mean all young providers are bad. Nikki and Kelly are both young and are without question, surely are the real deal.

Made a hold today... However, she postponed it to tomorrow before I drove.
Hopefully, I can meet her.
Did any one have similar experience?
Thanks

Be safe

Haha99

Simply go to the RAW deal thread, search her name there and you can read about my experience (or lack, thereof) with her. Good luck seeing her, you'll need it.

[QUOTE=Warpfactor69]SS, I was not critisizing you for posting in Real Deal. I brought my question here instead of there because Real Deal is only for recommendations, not questions, comments, or follow up posts.

I had a question, so I posted it here.

And my question is: In your own words, please describe the appearance of the woman you saw. You know...how old, how tall, color and length of hair, etc. I'll post the description of the "Vanessa" I saw after you do. If they are switching out women, then we all need to know it. I did notice some of the BP ads list Altamonte and Downtown Orlando, so they may be using two locations (most of the BP ads have been removed). Please post your reply here. You can also PM if you wish, but I would like the post describing her to be here, so everyone will be in the loop.

Back to the Real Deal thing...If you feel she met the criteria, there is nothing wrong with you posting there. The woman I met was beautiful and had a nice body, but it was not the woman described in the TER review and I did not have the experience that the reviewer had. It pisses me off that they may be switching out different women.

Real Deal criteria:

As pictured or described
warm personality with no attitude
professional in appearance, surroundings, cleanliness, etc.
respect for time[/QUOTE]

Per your request, I have posted further details on Vanessa in the Craigslist section - thanks.

For those of you who know Katie. You might have heard that she "left town" or whatever. (See her website for this info.) Well, it's not true. I saw her on Friday night, and she's still the real deal. Young sexy smoking body, great attitude and great service. Senior Members can PM me for info on getting in touch with her, since her ads have pretty much disappeared. I'll attempt to relay messages to her for SMs only.

On her website it says that she decided to stay in Orlando but will only see those who she has already seen. Her words:

I have decided to stay in Orlando BUT only see my previous clients.

Please call me to set an appointment.

If you have my cell #.

Katie

Finally talked to Ariel. The business seemed busy.

When the door opened, WOW, she is so cute. I hope she is my gf.

She was very sensitive and got O quickly. Maybe in 1 min.

I will repeat due to her cute face.

Thanks for your recommendation.

Sorry for the late post. I saw her last week and she has moved. The new place is a definite upgrade from the house she was in. It's a townhouse in a gated community in Maitland. If you decide to pay her a visit parking will appear to be a problem. When you get to her place, just look to your right in between the two buildings in front of hers and your will see the visitors parking. She told me just to park in front of her place but the area is small, will partially block the drive through, and is much less discrete than the visitors parking area. Anyhow if you go see her you will see what I am talking about.

I have been seeing her for quite a while now so obviously I like what she is doing for me. Another thing is that every time I see her she has got something new or has done something to improve her situation. That is a plus for me as I think it says something about her character. I also think that the improved security at her new place may make her a little lees skiddish about meeting new people.

Anyhow, I'm out in Vegas. It's 3 am and I think I'll go out and prowl around for a bit. Good hunting and stay safe guys.

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Oh the humanity!!!