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I have been on SA for about 3 weeks and it is going OK. I am getting a bunch of numbers but haven't yet made a connection in person. Definately some hotties and I amam eager to see if this provides more of the connection I am looking for that I don't get with the shops or BP. Membership is a little pricey.
[QUOTE=DrPotato;2649111]First things first, because I've already gotten like 10 PMs asking me about it, I'm posting the info here so I don't have to respond to 100 PMs asking me the same questions that I'm answering here. Only my good buddies on here can PM me for juicier details (they know who they are).
This is a sugar daddy website. You have to pay to join, but it's free to peruse to see all the girls. It's not for cheapskates, so if you're looking for cheap deals it ain't like that. While you will see a few BP girls on here, these are non pro girls, and they are unbelievably hot. Model hot girls. Some not so much, you'll come across some trailer trash and fatties, but mostly hot girls. A lot of dancers too.
There are different levels of what kind of arrangement the girls are looking for, from extremely high, to minimal and negotiable. Most list that in their profile, so I don't contact a girl who is expecting like $2000+ a month.
I've found and met a couple girls (and I'm not sharing that info) so far who will provide all night GFE service for a little more than a higher end escort charges for an hour and one girl who will for much less than that.
Just like anything, everything is YMMV. It depends on you, what you look like, your personality, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2677127]I have been on SA for about 3 weeks and it is going OK. I am getting a bunch of numbers but haven't yet made a connection in person. Definately some hotties and I amam eager to see if this provides more of the connection I am looking for that I don't get with the shops or BP. Membership is a little pricey.[/QUOTE]It is actually worth the membership. I have met a few females on there and have run into a couple profiles I know in real life.
[QUOTE=FuzzyChest;2690508]It is actually worth the membership. I have met a few females on there and have run into a couple profiles I know in real life.[/QUOTE]Yes, it was worth the price of membership. They have a phone app too which works great and you can keep up on the messages from the ladies and search while on the go. I met a 22 y / o blonde that came over and spent a few hours with me, met at a public place first and then back to my place. Also met a 29 year old cutie who can't get enough. I have been seeing now and then, we keep in touch through text. I did get a bunch of numbers, but pretty much 75% of them were asking too much, made plans and then cancelled last minute, or just stopped replying to the texts. I stopped my membership for a while, it was getting too crazy and distracting for me, and it seems that there were only a few new girls in the area each week. Plus it's most of them only seemed happy with a first date donation of. 3 - that's just too much considering the other options out there. Back to my scouring CL and FB searching phone numbers for the meantime for my amusement. At least it's free!
[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2677127]I have been on SA for about 3 weeks and it is going OK. I am getting a bunch of numbers but haven't yet made a connection in person. Definately some hotties and I amam eager to see if this provides more of the connection I am looking for that I don't get with the shops or BP. Membership is a little pricey.[/QUOTE]SA? Only thing I can come up with is Sex-aholics Anonymous. Are you trolling Sex-aholics Anonymous looking for pussy? If so, hats off to you. That's hilarious. If SA means something else in this context, please enlighten me.
[QUOTE=Member#1658;2693461]SA? Only thing I can come up with is Sex-aholics Anonymous. Are you trolling Sex-aholics Anonymous looking for pussy? If so, hats off to you. That's hilarious. If SA means something else in this context, please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangements but I like your thinking LOL.
[QUOTE=NephriteJade;2693746]Seeking Arrangements but I like your thinking LOL.[/QUOTE]I've been clean and sober for decades now but I remember going to crossover meetings with sex addicts. All I can say is just because your sober doesn't mean your not still an asshole. We always chatted them up to see how strong their commitment was.
[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2693256]Yes, it was worth the price of membership. They have a phone app too which works great and you can keep up on the messages from the ladies and search while on the go. I met a 22 y / o blonde that came over and spent a few hours with me, met at a public place first and then back to my place. Also met a 29 year old cutie who can't get enough. I have been seeing now and then, we keep in touch through text. I did get a bunch of numbers, but pretty much 75% of them were asking too much, made plans and then cancelled last minute, or just stopped replying to the texts. I stopped my membership for a while, it was getting too crazy and distracting for me, and it seems that there were only a few new girls in the area each week. Plus it's most of them only seemed happy with a first date donation of. 3 - that's just too much considering the other options out there. Back to my scouring CL and FB searching phone numbers for the meantime for my amusement. At least it's free![/QUOTE]You said asking too much, mind giving a better idea of rate?
[QUOTE=EdenSparko;2693256]Yes, it was worth the price of membership. They have a phone app too which works great and you can keep up on the messages from the ladies and search while on the go. I met a 22 y / o blonde that came over and spent a few hours with me, met at a public place first and then back to my place. Also met a 29 year old cutie who can't get enough. I have been seeing now and then, we keep in touch through text. I did get a bunch of numbers, but pretty much 75% of them were asking too much, made plans and then cancelled last minute, or just stopped replying to the texts. I stopped my membership for a while, it was getting too crazy and distracting for me, and it seems that there were only a few new girls in the area each week. Plus it's most of them only seemed happy with a first date donation of. 3 - that's just too much considering the other options out there. Back to my scouring CL and FB searching phone numbers for the meantime for my amusement. At least it's free![/QUOTE]In my opinion, SA is definitely worth the membership cost. I've been on SA for 3 years on and off. The idea is to get a bunch of numbers / potentials, at least a couple dependable arrangements set up, and let your membership lapse. Give the market time to replenish itself with new talent (3-6 months), rinse, repeat.
The price of membership is a bit higher than a QV to a BP girl, but that puts literally hundreds of ladies from 18-40+ on your radar, each of which is competing to catch the eye of one or more daddies where the average ratio is something like 20 babies to 1 daddy. None of them are "sure things" compared to a dependable professional provider, and some level of wooing may be required in addition to meeting their desired sugar level, but mostly this means don't be a complete douche nozzle and treat them like a human. There are a lot of time wasters, fakes, scammers willing to string you along without delivering any goods, and basket cases who are just seeking some validation of their own worth with no intention of meeting a daddy, but many of these can be weeded out.
The Richmond VA forum has a thread for Sugar discussion and it's got literally thousands of useful posts of information. They've even indexed some of the more useful posts in another thread. I've started posting there.
For those new to sugaring, I highly recommend you read through the indexed posts. They will save you countless hours and dollars worth of learning the hard way.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL]
As it seems like sugaring is getting more popular with the mongers / hobbyists in this area, it would be great if we could a thread started on the subject either here or in the Tampa forum. It would give us locals a place to post warnings about scammers and time wasters as well as sharing our collective experience and knowledge. As I'm not a senior yet, I'm not sure how one starts a new thread, but I'd be happy to participate if someone steps up.
-Colo.
[QUOTE=Chumm;2694199]You said asking too much, mind giving a better idea of rate?[/QUOTE]There's a lot of GPS going on, especially with the younger girls on SA. Too many of them have seen documentaries about the sugar game and all of them think they have what it takes to land a $10 k a month allowance.
Out of the 25 or 30% that are real and reasonable, desired remuneration varies considerably with age, race, and attractiveness. And unlike professionals where the rate is usually the rate unless you're a well-known regular, many of these ladies will alter their requirements if you are attractive to them on one or more levels. My current #1 baby accepted an arrangement with me for roughly 25% of what she was originally hoping for due to our shared interests and the fact that I made her feel comfortable during the negotiation period. Many veteran babies know that the average sugar daddy is not a trust-fund baby, self-made millionaire, or investment genius and their expectations are adjusted accordingly. There's a ton of info in the Richmond thread about negotiation tactics and the psychology of the sugar game, so I won't rehash that here, just point you that way.
The guys in Richmond suggest that a gift of $$ per meeting is on the high end for their region, with $ or $. 50 being more reasonable. HYB or HYCB (hot young babes, hot young college babes) can often command more, but finding a non-flaky 18-21 year old is tough, so a lot of potential daddies (myself included) target the mid-20's girls. Almost as hot a body, a lot more realistic in their expectations and attentive in their ministrations. Still, the better your looks and your game, the better the likelihood of landing one of those hot young model-quality college girls. I'm seeing similar numbers here.
You asked for hard numbers. I've got the following arrangements set up:
1. A set arrangement for $$. 5 a week, we see each other an average of 2 nights a week. Planning on keeping her around long term both due to the value and due to the chemistry we have.
2. One who hasn't asked for anything but to "be taken care of". To me, this means anywhere from $. 5 to $$. 5. Those amounts have made her happy. She's insanely sexual, and very kinky. More of a casual "lets hook up when we can" thing rather than the ongoing and steady thing with #1. She's great fun, but I'd bet if I cut the 'gift" down to the per-meeting rate for baby #1 we'd see less of each other.
Also working on several others in various stages of messaging / scheduling a meet and greet, and negotiating. Sometimes it takes more than one meeting to get to the FC (fuck chamber) as the guys from Richmond call it.
"Never provide the sugar before you're getting the honey" is the best advice I've heard. If a baby says she needs time to get to know you before she's ready to get intimate, then you need some time to get to know her before you're ready to be generous. Simple. Even simpler, just walk away. There's more of them than there are of us, the odds are in your favor. Most veteran guys say don't even discuss the arrangement until after the hookup, and just give what you feel like. If you insult them with that amount, chances for repeats are low, but hey, there's plenty more babies in the sugar bowl. More likely, that amount serves as a starting point for any future negotiations, and you're in the drivers' seat.
Hope some of this helps.
-Colo.
[QUOTE=Colonoscopy;2694506]There's a lot of GPS going on, especially with the younger girls on SA. Too many of them have seen documentaries about the sugar game and all of them think they have what it takes to land a $10 k a month allowance.
Out of the 25 or 30% that are real and reasonable, desired remuneration varies considerably with age, race, and attractiveness. And unlike professionals where the rate is usually the rate unless you're a well-known regular, many of these ladies will alter their requirements if you are attractive to them on one or more levels. My current #1 baby accepted an arrangement with me for roughly 25% of what she was originally hoping for due to our shared interests and the fact that I made her feel comfortable during the negotiation period. Many veteran babies know that the average sugar daddy is not a trust-fund baby, self-made millionaire, or investment genius and their expectations are adjusted accordingly. There's a ton of info in the Richmond thread about negotiation tactics and the psychology of the sugar game, so I won't rehash that here, just point you that way.
The guys in Richmond suggest that a gift of $$ per meeting is on the high end for their region, with $ or $. 50 being more reasonable. HYB or HYCB (hot young babes, hot young college babes) can often command more, but finding a non-flaky 18-21 year old is tough, so a lot of potential daddies (myself included) target the mid-20's girls. Almost as hot a body, a lot more realistic in their expectations and attentive in their ministrations. Still, the better your looks and your game, the better the likelihood of landing one of those hot young model-quality college girls. I'm seeing similar numbers here.
You asked for hard numbers. I've got the following arrangements set up:
1. A set arrangement for $$. 5 a week, we see each other an average of 2 nights a week. Planning on keeping her around long term both due to the value and due to the chemistry we have.
2. One who hasn't asked for anything but to "be taken care of". To me, this means anywhere from $. 5 to $$. 5. Those amounts have made her happy. She's insanely sexual, and very kinky. More of a casual "lets hook up when we can" thing rather than the ongoing and steady thing with #1. She's great fun, but I'd bet if I cut the 'gift" down to the per-meeting rate for baby #1 we'd see less of each other.
Also working on several others in various stages of messaging / scheduling a meet and greet, and negotiating. Sometimes it takes more than one meeting to get to the FC (fuck chamber) as the guys from Richmond call it.
"Never provide the sugar before you're getting the honey" is the best advice I've heard. If a baby says she needs time to get to know you before she's ready to get intimate, then you need some time to get to know her before you're ready to be generous. Simple. Even simpler, just walk away. There's more of them than there are of us, the odds are in your favor. Most veteran guys say don't even discuss the arrangement until after the hookup, and just give what you feel like. If you insult them with that amount, chances for repeats are low, but hey, there's plenty more babies in the sugar bowl. More likely, that amount serves as a starting point for any future negotiations, and you're in the drivers' seat.
Hope some of this helps.
-Colo.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Thanks for all the information. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Member#1658;2693461]Are you trolling Sex-aholics Anonymous looking for pussy?[/QUOTE]This inspired me. Looking up local meetings as we speak!
-Colo.
[QUOTE=Chumm;2694199]You said asking too much, mind giving a better idea of rate?[/QUOTE]Most were looking for about $$ some were asking for $$ and we're not super hot and / or young.
Lots of good information and links from Colo on SA, wish I had read them before I started playing. A forum for SA is a great idea, maybe HawaiianD can tell us how to get it started. I think he is a mod for a forum on here.
One girl is like a decoy.