General Reports

There are several reasons someone may post a review and not post contact info. I will only go into a few reasons and let others chime in if they want.

On the Sugar Baby Thread, those girls are usually part of a pay to view website. Most of those girls want someone to "take care of them" and aren't necessarily looking for a high volume dates. They generally (ideally) want to establish a longer term relationship and be showered with high dollars and gifts. Members post about those girls so that OTHERS who subscribe to some of those same sites may have interest in meeting a specific girl or be warned about a specific girl because there are lots of scammers. Very often there are links provided but if you don't pay to view the website, you won't see it any way. I don't partake in that arena so I don't usually even read the Thread. Those girls usually don't want their numbers out there without them agreeing to share.

The UTR girls are just that. MOST of them do not or no longer advertise so they DON'T want their contact info posted for the general population. There are numerous reasons these girls don't want to advertise. Usually it's for privacy and safety. A lot of them don't want face pics posted. It's the ideal gig for many of them because they can do the amount of volume they want and NOT have to go through the hassle of weeding out the guys from an ad. Guys contact them and it's usually people that have already been screened or they already know. It's hard work for a provider to run an ad based service. For many, if she is a legit provider, works hard, her hope is to earn the ability to be on easy street so to speak. All her johns are part of her circle. Why post about them then? Well, many times the UTR wants to expand her contacts to others that she can trust. She may need more cash in tough times. She may not be seeing as many as she needs to pay the bills, men come and go. A lot of reasons. She relies on her current roster to help her find new forum members or others guys they know. That's where sometimes a forum member will share with KNOWN guys on the forum through a private message. Known in this case is being defined as has a reputation through any number of channels of being fair and treats girls right. Read that as someone that doesn't act like an ass. When a UTR number is given out, 99 times out of 100 the UTR gave permission for the member to share and the recipient of the number will use the name of the person that gave them the number. That number or contact info WON'T be openly shared on the thread. One reason is you can't post actual numbers and the other reason is she has no ad. If she does, she is NO LONGER a UTR provider. If a member that currently sees a UTR shares numbers with out permission, I can assure you that they will no longer see that UTR by her choice and guys on here will not share with that person any longer because they violated the circle of trust. It's like a club. It's not that hard to get in with some, you just have to have some creds first. Guys will help screen by looking at your posts and reviews. Also known providers will share who is a jerk or who isn't with other guys. It all gets back around. Some do post to brag but that's part of life. Another advantage of these posts can also be that you can and will find that SOME of them actually do advertise and can see them.

If you are posting about an advertiser, YES, usually it would be common to post a link to the ad. Not required but usually happens to allow others to contact them. Besides, they are advertising openly so it's not a big deal.

If someone is posting about a Massage Parlor, the info you need is usually the name of the business. If it's a private provider, the rules apply same as above if they advertise openly or not.

If it's a SW, they rarely keep phones so it just doesn't matter posting contact info.

That's enough from me for now. I will let others add to this if they want.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=AlexKx93;5056111]Then what's the point of writing a review here and showing pics to everyone? Just to show off the girl they found? It's rather inane.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;5056253]I am not yet a senior member, so am thankful for any information someone is willing to share.

While I agree that if someone is not willing to share contact information at all, they should not leave a review. I do understand being selective with who you share the information with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;5043118]Small petite latina with dragon tattoo on her ass cheek. Quoted 200 hh 300 hh, incall near the airport. HJ to get you up, no BJ, CG with latina riding twerking skills, no GFE no kissing tits, mish, k9 seems open to positions but YMMV. FYI her handlers are a hispanic gang. She was bored and uninterested and fake moaning and asking to hurry up. Won't repeat
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/3212604802[/QUOTE]I forgot about the bad reviews posted and decided to see her the other night. ALL of the posts about her pretty much resemble my experience. I started to follow her on SNAP and man she's a cutie and something about that ass had me wanting to get a peek. She kept posting very enticing vids and pics on her snap so I showed up at the agreed time and she goes silent for an hour. In the meantime I am going back and forth with several girls from the other sites and they were all scams. One of the scammers had me show up to the hotel and then when I get there she asks me to send her 50 on cashapp for a deposit. I told her to quit wasting peoples time and then blocked her. I didn't care since I was already in the area but can you imagine a monger coming from the other side of town? I googled the number and a few hits popped up but no good links. 717 area code. Tried Sophia, Natasha, and many others and nobody around for anything.

By the way this was in the Idrive area, a ghost town right now.

Anyway back to the Adriana girl. Horrible comms and she finally tells me where to meet her at. I show up early and see her with a handler. Didn't see any others and I was not concerned. She wants 200 and we agree to another figure for her being late. Cahs up front no exceptions with her. She got a little nasty but I deflated it all. She has some Puerto Rican spice to her and I can see how things could easily escalate like the other monger said. Absolutely nothing GFE about this gal LOL. The only good part about the dream was when I had her K9 and saw that nice, soft ass bouncing on my dick. I wanted to just jam my fingers in her asshole but then who knows what would have been waiting for me outside. We chatted a little bit and I had no issues with her. If her service was better then she would be my new go to. Would not recommend or repeat just because for her rates there are way better options. She claims she only does 200 dates. Right. You can negotiate if you want, def YMMV.

[QUOTE=Grain56;5056664]There are several reasons someone may post a review and not post contact info. I will only go into a few reasons and let others chime in if they want.

On the Sugar Baby Thread, those girls are usually part of a pay to view website. Most of those girls want someone to "take care of them" and aren't necessarily looking for a high volume dates. They generally (ideally) want to establish a longer term relationship and be showered with high dollars and gifts. Members post about those girls so that OTHERS who subscribe to some of those same sites may have interest in meeting a specific girl or be warned about a specific girl because there are lots of scammers. Very often there are links provided but if you don't pay to view the website, you won't see it any way. I don't partake in that arena so I don't usually even read the Thread. Those girls usually don't want their numbers out there without them agreeing to share.

The UTR girls are just that. MOST of them do not or no longer advertise so they DON'T want their contact info posted for the general population. There are numerous reasons these girls don't want to advertise. Usually it's for privacy and safety. A lot of them don't want face pics posted. It's the ideal gig for many of them because they can do the amount of volume they want and NOT have to go through the hassle of weeding out the guys from an ad. Guys contact them and it's usually people that have already been screened or they already know. It's hard work for a provider to run an ad based service. For many, if she is a legit provider, works hard, her hope is to earn the ability to be on easy street so to speak. All her johns are part of her circle. Why post about them then? Well, many times the UTR wants to expand her contacts to others that she can trust. She may need more cash in tough times. She may not be seeing as many as she needs to pay the bills, men come and go. A lot of reasons. She relies on her current roster to help her find new forum members or others guys they know. That's where sometimes a forum member will share with KNOWN guys on the forum through a private message. Known in this case is being defined as has a reputation through any number of channels of being fair and treats girls right. Read that as someone that doesn't act like an ass. When a UTR number is given out, 99 times out of 100 the UTR gave permission for the member to share and the recipient of the number will use the name of the person that gave them the number. That number or contact info WON'T be openly shared on the thread. One reason is you can't post actual numbers and the other reason is she has no ad. If she does, she is NO LONGER a UTR provider. If a member that currently sees a UTR shares numbers with out permission, I can assure you that they will no longer see that UTR by her choice and guys on here will not share with that person any longer because they violated the circle of trust. It's like a club. It's not that hard to get in with some, you just have to have some creds first. Guys will help screen by looking at your posts and reviews. Also known providers will share who is a jerk or who isn't with other guys. It all gets back around. Some do post to brag but that's part of life. Another advantage of these posts can also be that you can and will find that SOME of them actually do advertise and can see them.

If you are posting about an advertiser, YES, usually it would be common to post a link to the ad. Not required but usually happens to allow others to contact them. Besides, they are advertising openly so it's not a big deal.

If someone is posting about a Massage Parlor, the info you need is usually the name of the business. If it's a private provider, the rules apply same as above if they advertise openly or not.

If it's a SW, they rarely keep phones so it just doesn't matter posting contact info.

That's enough from me for now. I will let others add to this if they want.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]I can only comment on the SD thread. On that site I try to find the girls that just want to hang out, have a drink and then fuck. The others that want allowances and all that I just block to not waste time. Some of my best finds took many hours, cash, and patience to score so I would def not share the info especially to a guy that has less than a handful of solid reviews. With that being said I won't post a detailed 2 page review either unless I am going to give out contact details. Another reason I don't post reviews of my keepers are because I am bombarded by PM's constantly from guys looking for freebies. You need to put some work in fellas LOL.

I tried calling the Geneva motel and it was a recorded message talking about mask requirements.

[QUOTE=Bertil;5057358]I can only comment on the SD thread. On that site I try to find the girls that just want to hang out, have a drink and then fuck. The others that want allowances and all that I just block to not waste time. Some of my best finds took many hours, cash, and patience to score so I would def not share the info especially to a guy that has less than a handful of solid reviews. With that being said I won't post a detailed 2 page review either unless I am going to give out contact details. Another reason I don't post reviews of my keepers are because I am bombarded by PM's constantly from guys looking for freebies. You need to put some work in fellas LOL.[/QUOTE]This post and the one below by Grain56 are good reads by those expecting everything on this forum to be provided on a silver platter. It really doesn't matter whether someone is new or experienced, there is a wealth of info on this forum but one should not expect it to be an online grocery shopping experience where you just pick things and place in your shopping cart. Over time, you should contribute and be recognized by the members as such and things will definitely come your way. I have received many prime UTR's, and passed along many also, that wanted to stay low volume and therefore are hardly advertised on here if at all. But, the key thing is this forum allows for this to happen.

If someone just wants easy, drive the Trail, or look at other advertising forums, but then you are taking a chance. A chance on quality of service, and the risks of being robbed or LEO.

Stick to the long term here, there is nothing against putting the work in and contributing instead of coming on here expecting a shopping experience.

[QUOTE=Bertil;5057336]I forgot about the bad reviews posted and decided to see her the other night. ALL of the posts about her pretty much resemble my experience. I started to follow her on SNAP and man she's a cutie and something about that ass had me wanting to get a peek. She kept posting very enticing vids and pics on her snap so I showed up at the agreed time and she goes silent for an hour. In the meantime I am going back and forth with several girls from the other sites and they were all scams. One of the scammers had me show up to the hotel and then when I get there she asks me to send her 50 on cashapp for a deposit. I told her to quit wasting peoples time and then blocked her. I didn't care since I was already in the area but can you imagine a monger coming from the other side of town? I googled the number and a few hits popped up but no good links. 717 area code. Tried Sophia, Natasha, and many others and nobody around for anything.

By the way this was in the Idrive area, a ghost town right now.

Anyway back to the Adriana girl. Horrible comms and she finally tells me where to meet her at. I show up early and see her with a handler. Didn't see any others and I was not concerned. She wants 200 and we agree to another figure for her being late. Cahs up front no exceptions with her. She got a little nasty but I deflated it all. She has some Puerto Rican spice to her and I can see how things could easily escalate like the other monger said. Absolutely nothing GFE about this gal LOL. The only good part about the dream was when I had her K9 and saw that nice, soft ass bouncing on my dick. I wanted to just jam my fingers in her asshole but then who knows what would have been waiting for me outside. We chatted a little bit and I had no issues with her. If her service was better then she would be my new go to. Would not recommend or repeat just because for her rates there are way better options. She claims she only does 200 dates. Right. You can negotiate if you want, def YMMV.[/QUOTE]So $$ for .5 hour and the menu had only a HJ and CFS? Any other restrictions not yet mentioned? I've got her on Snap and may go for it. Thanks.

General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]If a chic let me smash raw that would be my assumption too. It's polite to ask but that would be my thought process. Most let us know what the deal is pre fuck.

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]It's sort of on both of you. She should have told you to pull out, but you should have asked if it was OK.

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]There's this thing called premature ejaculation, where some cum dripples out of a mans cock before the real climax nut blow, and I've been told these dudes are the strongest swimmers, silly girl.

My view is to ask, but I usually go do you cim or cip? But I don't do FS with a provider and definitely not bare FS.

On the daddy thing, if you don't want to be one go the vasectomy route. Just my personal opinion.

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]I prefer to cover up but sometimes the little head wins the battle, however whenever I didn't, I've opted to not CIP. Also I never ask for bare, if the motions go that way then hey LOL. But one instance the provider said not to CIP so it was clear ahead of time. But In generally If its not spoken I would assume they're on BC and are okay with it. Also I'd like to assume most guys announce they're about to Cum so if they aren't cool with it that would be the time to push you away LOL. Don't have that much experience with CIP so this probably doesn't help much.

[QUOTE=Bjceb;5057663]My view is to ask, but I usually go do you cim or cip? But I don't do FS with a provider and definitely not bare FS.

On the daddy thing, if you don't want to be one go the vasectomy route. Just my personal opinion.[/QUOTE]Curious, just based on your number of post, you've been here for a while and haven't engaged in FS. Ever? LOL.

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bjceb;5057663]My view is to ask, but I usually go do you cim or cip? But I don't do FS with a provider and definitely not bare FS.

On the daddy thing, if you don't want to be one go the vasectomy route. Just my personal opinion.[/QUOTE]Just because a chick will do bare FS doesn't mean she's cool with CIP, two different things. Though, like Bjceb said, I'm hesitant to go bare with a provider anyway, just too many bad things that can come of that. That's another reason to use this forum, if a provider has a few reviews, you pretty much know what's on the menu going in. Though with the SA chicks, there may be less information readily available.

My take is you should ask first, either agree before you begin the sex act or ask well before you actually let one loose inside of her. Here's an easy way to address it during the act. Before you are going to cum, ask her where she'd like you to cum. She may be really into you and be more willing to allow and want to feel the sensation. If she says "anywhere you want", you are home free. If she says "anywhere, BUT. " you now have a restriction and you should respect it. Many times they will say across the stomach, on the face or in the mouth. I ask every time even with a condom. I pull off the condom before I cum most every time so I always ask.

I've had a few handfulls of girls over the years who are actually turned on by CIP. At least they were when I saw them. Once it was a snow bunny type in Tennessee that actually wanted to be F'ed in a certain position, gave me directions on how to move and position myself, she grinded the hell out of me as I was behind her and she was flat on the bed holding on to the sheets and flat out yelled for me to cum inside of her. She had a huge O as I did and started quivering like a cold Eskimo. The bed had a wet spot as big as I've ever seen afterwards so I am guessing she squirted all over the bed as well. Another was just recently where she asked for me to do it inside of her.

Most of these girls deal with pregnancy risks daily and some are really paranoid and some don't care. A college girl with her life ahead of her and hasn't become a crack-head yet is NOT going to want it. A SW who just wants it over with to get her next fix doesn't give a shit. The scary thing is that, if they get pregnant and have the child, you could be on the hook legally if it gets to that. Even scarier is that today a person can take their DNA to one of the ancestry sites and using their extensive DNA database COULD actually implicate YOU as a relative and, with just a little more testing, can prove paternity. That means that 5, 10,20, 30+ years from now some kid could search you out and find you by their DNA. Imagine THAT. I can see someone in their retirement rocking chair with their significant other sitting beside them knitting, when a 25 year old shows up at the door and calls you DADDY! Plus has the papers to prove it.

My. 02 is don't do it when it's not wanted and when it is wanted, know there are risks involved from multiple angles.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TungstenHP;5057605]General question, is it wrong of me to cum inside a girl without asking if she's letting me hit it raw?

So the little back story is I found a young college tight body on SA and had a date where we fucked with no condom. I nutted inside of her and she was not very happy about it. I said, "Uhh you let me go bare so I'm assuming you were good with that" and she responded "Yeah but that doesn't mean you can just cum inside me without asking".

I was dumbfounded, I've always been under the impression that if a girl let's you go bare she's not scared of having cum inside her.

So just curious what you guys think? Am I an asshole for assuming? Or am I going to be a daddy now? Hahah. But for real she wasn't on BC that's why she's mad.[/QUOTE]I got a vasectomy and tell them upfront. This way there are no worries about getting pregnant. Most are cool with it and prefer the CIP. Next time just ask before you bust LOL.