"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

No_Gag_Maddy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a857c467-1ae5-4299-9db0-ae80d517e4c0[/URL]

Easy enough to move from the site to snap. Seems real, and was very upfront about sex. We tried to get together to hook up but couldn't make the timing work as she's near Griffin and doesn't have a car. Reached out again to schedule something and she blocked me. Not sure what went wrong. Easy to get nudes / vids from though, I'll post the jpgs. She also sent a few solo vids. Seemed like a fun time.

We never settled on $. She never brought it up directly, and our sexting was so hot and she seemed so horny I thought maybe she'd jump in to the sack just to get some w / o an amount. Just curious if anyone else has already smashed. Was open to BBJ and CIP / CIM, no anal. Cannot host.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6311544]WYP pricing model never made any sense to me. It's a bit like the SecretBenefits model which is a total scam site now. I checked out SDM yesterday, it seems they've done some software updates since I last logged on over a year ago. SDM also requires a live cell phone # (not a voip or other easily faked #) to verify you are legit which honestly can filter scammers better than any other verification method. I don't like having to give them my real cell phone number to verify my account but maybe it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Lately, I've had some girls tell me right off the bat that they need a real number as soon as I send them a fake one, and their rationale has been "well I gave you my real number, why can't I have yours?" I rarely answer with the real reason, which is that some SBs go bat shit crazy and try to ruin a guys life when they don't get their way. Conversely the same rarely happens with SDs getting clingy and trying to ruin a reputation that the SB doesn't have in the first place.

Question is, does a pre-paid burner phone show up in their searches as a "real number" as opposed to a fake one? What I care about mostly is they can't just put my number into an app and get my real name instantly.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6311994]Lately, I've had some girls tell me right off the bat that they need a real number as soon as I send them a fake one, and their rationale has been "well I gave you my real number, why can't I have yours?" I rarely answer with the real reason, which is that some SBs go bat shit crazy and try to ruin a guys life when they don't get their way. Conversely the same rarely happens with SDs getting clingy and trying to ruin a reputation that the SB doesn't have in the first place.

Question is, does a pre-paid burner phone show up in their searches as a "real number" as opposed to a fake one? What I care about mostly is they can't just put my number into an app and get my real name instantly.[/QUOTE]This is the site asking for your cell phone number upon signup, and it doesn't get published anywhere else to my knowledge. A burner phone is tied to a real SIM card, so that should be perfectly fine. You can't use a VOIP number though. It's simply a way to block scammers / fraudsters / fakes from signing onto the site is my guess.

And how does a SB know if your number is VOIP or not? If she is doing a lookup, run for the hills. No SB should be doing that ever, period b / c of the reasons you stated. It's also super weird, and likely a dude pimp/scammer in Eastern Europe / Africa you are talking to.

SBs can't be blackmailed, but we sure can.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6286451]Damn, that second one is stunning. Totally my type. Was that a SB or escort and how much was ppm / donation? Share some more pics of her in the "Greatest Hits" thread, if you like.[/QUOTE]I have another. This is the photo of the girl when she appeared in Playboy when she was 20. I met her when she was around 40 (listed 30 on her SA profile, no problem for me), and still she was smoking.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6311985]No_Gag_Maddy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a857c467-1ae5-4299-9db0-ae80d517e4c0[/URL]

Easy enough to move from the site to snap. Seems real, and was very upfront about sex. We tried to get together to hook up but couldn't make the timing work as she's near Griffin and doesn't have a car. Reached out again to schedule something and she blocked me. Not sure what went wrong. Easy to get nudes / vids from though, I'll post the jpgs. She also sent a few solo vids. Seemed like a fun time.

We never settled on $. She never brought it up directly, and our sexting was so hot and she seemed so horny I thought maybe she'd jump in to the sack just to get some w / o an amount. Just curious if anyone else has already smashed. Was open to BBJ and CIP / CIM, no anal. Cannot host.[/QUOTE]I'm from down there and still visit as I have fam there. I may hit her up and see what gives next time I'm heading down.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c6867b35-34e5-4010-85d6-648b5ca28fec[/URL]

Ok, this is slightly off topic, because this girl is in Wisconsin, but had to share the profile, because of the crazy face tattoo. That is one of the most obvious and glaring red flags, for me. It makes it seems like the girl is a gang member, or at the very least just extremely unstable, if not batshit crazy. And she looks really pretty in the pics that must have been pre-ink.

I have a thing for pregnant sb's though, so probably good she doesn't live here, or I might be tempted to put myself in danger.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6312031]This is the site asking for your cell phone number upon signup, and it doesn't get published anywhere else to my knowledge. A burner phone is tied to a real SIM card, so that should be perfectly fine. You can't use a VOIP number though. It's simply a way to block scammers / fraudsters / fakes from signing onto the site is my guess.

And how does a SB know if your number is VOIP or not? If she is doing a lookup, run for the hills. No SB should be doing that ever, period b / c of the reasons you stated. It's also super weird, and likely a dude pimp/scammer in Eastern Europe / Africa you are talking to.

SBs can't be blackmailed, but we sure can.[/QUOTE]Lots of them do look ups these days, especially if they've been in the game for a while. All sorts of apps or websites out there that do it. I have the "Mr Number" app loaded on my phone, and most of the time it will reveal the name behind a non VOIP line. Sometimes it says "Suspected Spam", sometimes "Personal Line". But don't kid yourself that they're oblivious to these lookup mechanisms. These girls do network, they learn most of what they know from social media these days and most of them are very savvy at searching and figuring out how to verify as much as they can about a guy.

Now, in terms of the number of them that actually do it (versus the ones that know they can easily). The number of girls that actually complain about my fake number is maybe 1 out of 75 or so. Some of them don't really complain, they just say "is this your real number?" and I know they are fishing to see if I will lie or whatever. Why else would they ask that if they didn't already look it up? So I usually explain my reasons why they will not get my real number at first and most of them want an arrangement enough to just accept that and move on. The number of girls that do that (inquire about whether its my primary cell or not) is much higher. Like maybe 1 out of 15 or 20. So yeah, lots of them are looking up that number the very first thing when I send it to them on the site.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6312251][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c6867b35-34e5-4010-85d6-648b5ca28fec[/URL]

Ok, this is slightly off topic, because this girl is in Wisconsin, but had to share the profile, because of the crazy face tattoo. That is one of the most obvious and glaring red flags, for me. It makes it seems like the girl is a gang member, or at the very least just extremely unstable, if not batshit crazy. And she looks really pretty in the pics that must have been pre-ink.

I have a thing for pregnant sb's though, so probably good she doesn't live here, or I might be tempted to put myself in danger.[/QUOTE]Face tattoos AND a picture of her shooting a gun? Hard pass! Pregnant is sexy, but not sexy enough to die for. LOL.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6312251][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c6867b35-34e5-4010-85d6-648b5ca28fec[/URL]

Ok, this is slightly off topic, because this girl is in Wisconsin, but had to share the profile, because of the crazy face tattoo. That is one of the most obvious and glaring red flags, for me. It makes it seems like the girl is a gang member, or at the very least just extremely unstable, if not batshit crazy. And she looks really pretty in the pics that must have been pre-ink.

I have a thing for pregnant sb's though, so probably good she doesn't live here, or I might be tempted to put myself in danger.[/QUOTE]Funny thing is that she would be highly sought after in a bunch of areas.

I am a 'member' of the SA "Customer Advisory Council". They want me to do a survey on something they are planning called Activity Feed.

"the Activity Feed will provide a more dynamic and personalized experience, this way you can discover new members easier."

They want to interview me by phone.

This one asked about sensual fun service and said she gets paid after. Offline, she sent a list of "services" (her word) and prices without any prompting from me. She has asked me multiple times what "services" I want. It's odd and off putting. Pass for me. YMMV.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6b1c9d13-d7c5-4c89-a24b-2af73c22b3bf[/URL]

EDIT she sent another unsolicited message saying she needs a deposit because SA guys often dont show up. The scammer with this profile is dumb. I had already said I wasnt interested in a straight up transaction like she had offered. The communications felt off from the beginning. And then she confirmed she is in fact a scammer. My gut reaction was right.

Every now and then a woman messages me for the first time and it lands in the filtered out messages box instead of the inbox. Anyone know why? Does that mean the profile who sent the message is more likely a scam or something?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6312989]I am a 'member' of the SA "Customer Advisory Council". They want me to do a survey on something they are planning called Activity Feed.

"the Activity Feed will provide a more dynamic and personalized experience, this way you can discover new members easier."

They want to interview me by phone.[/QUOTE]That old ploy again. Tell them if you will provide feedback for lifetime, unbannable subscription.

[QUOTE=MrVmp;6312203]I'm from down there and still visit as I have fam there. I may hit her up and see what gives next time I'm heading down.[/QUOTE]She's real. Will do BBFS for $350 ppm. Wants a clean test beforehand.

I was ok with her until I asked for a better facial pic. I got one, & just not my type. Good body, but not a good enough face.

That's only my opinion, though. She's not a scammer & if her face is acceptable to you, I suspect a good time can be had.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6312349]Lots of them do look ups these days, especially if they've been in the game for a while. All sorts of apps or websites out there that do it. I have the "Mr Number" app loaded on my phone, and most of the time it will reveal the name behind a non VOIP line. Sometimes it says "Suspected Spam", sometimes "Personal Line". But don't kid yourself that they're oblivious to these lookup mechanisms. These girls do network, they learn most of what they know from social media these days and most of them are very savvy at searching and figuring out how to verify as much as they can about a guy.

Now, in terms of the number of them that actually do it (versus the ones that know they can easily). The number of girls that actually complain about my fake number is maybe 1 out of 75 or so. Some of them don't really complain, they just say "is this your real number?" and I know they are fishing to see if I will lie or whatever. Why else would they ask that if they didn't already look it up? So I usually explain my reasons why they will not get my real number at first and most of them want an arrangement enough to just accept that and move on. The number of girls that do that (inquire about whether its my primary cell or not) is much higher. Like maybe 1 out of 15 or 20. So yeah, lots of them are looking up that number the very first thing when I send it to them on the site.[/QUOTE]Any SB looking up your number is a seasoned pro, used up, and have no value. Probably a stupid GPS. Let them self filter themselves. I'm after UTR game.