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I agree with a lot of people that the hit rate on SA recently has been noticeably worse for me. I have had most of my success in the last year or so by just cold texting and reconnecting with old SBs, even one from 5+ years ago. The best thing about that is they all just continue at the rate from way back then versus the inflated rate today. Might be worth a shot for some who have been doing this awhile.
I think I am done with seeking. I just don't get it. Seems a few guys had fun with this girl on this board. She gave me her real number and real phone number. Took me to what seemed like her real residence. Pics matched her. I broke the cardinal rule and paid upfront. She took the money and told me to wait for her to get her place ready. Maybe I am an easy target. Sucks! Happy to give her phone number out if anyone wants to fuck with her. Really disappointed. Didn't think with the right head since I was attracted to her.
I have to agree with the cost of time to find someone on this app. It is excruciating. I did find that some things helped though:
1) Mention intimacy to some degree in your profile but don't be explicit about it. This ruled out all of the "I'm only looking for a platonic relationship" crazies in the app.
2) Don't drag the conversation for too long on the app. I found out that most women will ghost you after a certain point. I usually talk to them about something on their profile or their experiences on the app. By message 5 ask for their number. If they don't have a number is probably a scam.
3) As soon as you are texting, ask that you want to meet. Don't say sex or anything yet, unless you know for sure they are dtf on the first date. Some women can be very upfront but many times those are scammers. If they ask for money just say that drinks are on you but no money until you meet in person.
It is a number game after all. From around 100 people I contacted in one month:
- around 40 replied.
- 9 did not have a number or wanted money for online content.
- 3 were very clearly escorts (they usually sent their rates on the first couple of texts and asked if I was available now. Some used the same number as their listings).
- 1 deactivated their account or blocked me before I got their number.
- 5 ghosted while messaging in app.
- 10 did not want to meet after talking about expectations (money, sex, location, my time availability, etc).
- 6 I have met with.
- 1 said she only wanted something platonic (I changed my process after this).
- 1 wanted me to invest in her business and only then would consider intimacy.
- 1 I traveled to Fredericksburg to see and it was totally worth it but that was a one and done.
- 3 I keep in my hoetation.
I was very careful at only talking to people in a 20 mile radius who had good pictures and information on their profile. The one exception is the Fredericksburg girl who really talked me up and looked extra fine in her pictures.
[QUOTE=FogHorn1;6440844]About the dinner. That can get sideways quickly. When I first started in the bowl I had no idea what I was doing and maybe the second or third person I met was Nothing like her pics. Not even sure it was her TBH. But I got there first, and had already ordered a drink and started a tab and the had to suffer through dinner with her. It was miserable. I learned a lesson from that. Don't start a tab before you see her so you can simply bail if needed, etc. I will also always get there first, and let the server know it's a blind date and that I might have to bail without notice. I typically slip them a 20 and let them know it's a tip just in case I walk out when she walks in. In any case, agreeing to dinner for a M&G is risky, even if she looks like her pics, she could just be an awful human and dinner can be expensive AND annoying.[/QUOTE]Doesn't anybody do phone calls w / POTs? Surely some of that 'awful human' stuff would be detected in a phone call. Another reason to do one. There are plenty of young ones who think they can do an arrangement, but don't actually have the guts. Those lead to no-shows at the M&G. That is why I always do a call first. If I cannot get a girl to agree to talk to me on the phone, why would I expect her to get in her car and drive someplace to meet me?
[QUOTE=DCKing;6441301]I think I am done with seeking. I just don't get it. Seems a few guys had fun with this girl on this board. She gave me her real number and real phone number. Took me to what seemed like her real residence. Pics matched her. I broke the cardinal rule and paid upfront. She took the money and told me to wait for her to get her place ready. Maybe I am an easy target. Sucks! Happy to give her phone number out if anyone wants to fuck with her. Really disappointed. Didn't think with the right head since I was attracted to her.[/QUOTE]Wow. I've been texting with her on and off for weeks but she's been flakey af. We were actually supposed to meet up today but she wanted me to come to Manassas but I told her nah, I'd rather Uber her to me. She said fine but then she just went dark on me but I couldn't figure out WTF her deal was. Maybe that's why. If I don't come to her she can't run her little scam.
[QUOTE=Tophat31;6441196]This is crazy, its never been this bad. If your are paying for this garbage then stop. You are ruining it.[/QUOTE]Lmao. Talk about the epitome of a bullshit cut and paste response. She's got that one saved to her Notes app on her phone.
[QUOTE=DCKing;6441301]I think I am done with seeking. I just don't get it. Seems a few guys had fun with this girl on this board. She gave me her real number and real phone number. Took me to what seemed like her real residence. Pics matched her. I broke the cardinal rule and paid upfront. She took the money and told me to wait for her to get her place ready. Maybe I am an easy target. Sucks! Happy to give her phone number out if anyone wants to fuck with her. Really disappointed. Didn't think with the right head since I was attracted to her.[/QUOTE]I too had a bad experience and posted about her. But then another member on here saw her. So it kind of is strange. Wonder what is the criteria.
The most important thing is if she is demanding it or you give it on your own accord. In my experience if the girl is insisting, it is almost guaranteed she is a rinser or a professional M&Ger. I have done it few times when I was a newbie, never worked in my favor. Actually it is counter-productive. But, I occasionally give a gift or gas money or baby sitting fees if I knew for sure she drove long distance or had to get a babysitter. But never more than 50. Speaking of gas money, about 2 months ago, I met a girl for the first time who refused the gas money I offered. I cast a wide net, she was 3 hr drive away. We agreed to meet half-way location. She didn't ask for anything. I was planning a possible FC session after M&G although it was not clearly communicated to her. We met for a coffee, she is a cute 25 old, much better looking than her profile pictures. We connected immediately (despite 35 year age difference) talked for about an hour. She said she was going to hang out with a friend that day, but agreed to meet next weekend. She was willing to drive to my house for 3 hrs for meet ups (after I mentioned I hate hotel scene) . I gave her $30 for the gas, but she refused it right away. Her reasoning was that she was going to meet her friend anyway, so spending for gas for the drive was on her and her car has good gas milage. I was thinking WTF, where is the catch. Fast forward we have met about 6 times so far at my house. She spends the night. Best sex I have ever had with a SB. And my offer for 300 per meet, she accepted without hesitation. I am still scratching my head wondering where the catch is. She is 8/10 both looks and body, clean, nice smelling, loves sex, and most of all minimum chat between meets. She works two jobs, has a nice car, and on time arrival. I never believed in Unicorns. May be I have found one. Guys, keep on hunting, be smart and most off all be positive and treat the girls well. Listening to them and taking interest of their life and offering some honest advice go a long way. But keep your distance so that they don't catch feelings. And, they don't like clingy old men.
Play Safe.
Dr. S.
[QUOTE=SupplyCloset;6440142]I know the general wisdom is not to pay for a meet & greet date, but has anyone ever done it anyway and ended up in a solid, consistent arrangement? There are a few potentials that I'd really like to meet but they want 1-200 to meet for dinner first. They can't all be scammers, can they?[/QUOTE]
Was it this chick?
FlirtyLover.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bc5d5423-50bd-4267-9cce-866cc7f786a9[/URL]
[QUOTE=Ichrequiend;6441352]I have to agree with the cost of time to find someone on this app. It is excruciating. I did find that some things helped though:
- 1 I traveled to Fredericksburg to see and it was totally worth it but that was a one and done.
I was very careful at only talking to people in a 20 mile radius who had good pictures and information on their profile. The one exception is the Fredericksburg girl who really talked me up and looked extra fine in her pictures.[/QUOTE]
Gents, I'm not sure what to say. She's real, lives in Manassas and was dtf with me. Although she's a one and done for me, I enjoyed the "one". She's not new to the game. Seemed mechanical and semi-pro. I guess this is what YMMV means.
[QUOTE=DCKing;6441301]I think I am done with seeking. I just don't get it. Seems a few guys had fun with this girl on this board. She gave me her real number and real phone number. Took me to what seemed like her real residence. Pics matched her. I broke the cardinal rule and paid upfront. She took the money and told me to wait for her to get her place ready. Maybe I am an easy target. Sucks! Happy to give her phone number out if anyone wants to fuck with her. Really disappointed. Didn't think with the right head since I was attracted to her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dimples572;6441393]Wow. I've been texting with her on and off for weeks but she's been flakey af. We were actually supposed to meet up today but she wanted me to come to Manassas but I told her nah, I'd rather Uber her to me. She said fine but then she just went dark on me but I couldn't figure out WTF her deal was. Maybe that's why. If I don't come to her she can't run her little scam.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JonFisher;6441456]I too had a bad experience and posted about her. But then another member on here saw her. So it kind of is strange. Wonder what is the criteria.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6441384]Doesn't anybody do phone calls w / POTs? Surely some of that 'awful human' stuff would be detected in a phone call. Another reason to do one. There are plenty of young ones who think they can do an arrangement, but don't actually have the guts. Those lead to no-shows at the M&G. That is why I always do a call first. If I cannot get a girl to agree to talk to me on the phone, why would I expect her to get in her car and drive someplace to meet me?[/QUOTE]I'm not one for a phone call or video call. Nothing that can be recorded. Before anyone says "just don't talk about anything explicit" well of course not. But, you can't stop a girl on a phone or video call from asking something like "So what about my profile on SA did you like?" or "How much allowance are you willing to pay?" or some shit like that. I just don't ever want to be in a position that I have to explain why I was on a call with a 22 why / o from what is basically a SW site. It's just not a good look (for me).
If a call works for others, right on and to your point I can see the value in it. It's just not something I'm comfortable doing, the risk isn't worth it. To me.
Anyone have any info on this one? Asking price seems to be a little high but I think I can get her down. Cautious she might be bigger than her pics. Any info is appreciated.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0bf6eb93-9456-4dff-a8e7-4e744178c981[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ab17d46-8faa-4c8d-9771-95c49030ab85[/URL]
Sexyblondeee.
Chatted for a bit. Went to text. Says she wants the arrangement to start virtual so she can be more comfortable. Next.
[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6441728]Was it this chick?
FlirtyLover.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bc5d5423-50bd-4267-9cce-866cc7f786a9[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, just FYI those pictures are old and she is bigger now. Still had fun with her though.
Has anyone met wit this hottie?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4674f70a-fab9-4eea-9d69-29b884ac1efa[/URL]