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Burn
This might be surprising to some, but I just had a terrible experience with Nicole. It was my personal worst AMP experience.
After the many glowing reviews, I planned to go check out Nicole. I called probably six times this week, but never got through. It was a hike to get there, so I was nervous to just walk in without an appointment. From reading other reviews, it seemed like she doesn't answer the phone. I crossed my fingers and drove there.
When I got there, she seemed annoyed when I asked for an appointment. Thought that was a bad sign. She was young and had a nice body, but not the bubbly, fun attitude I had heard about. She was jaded and grumpy. Someone came in while I was getting the massage and she went out and just yelled that they were busy. She slammed the office door but had to go back to answer his questions. He just wanted to know when to come back. I thought her loud, exasperated groan as she came back was a little much. I tried to make small talk but she wasn't interested. The whole massage was basically in silence.
The massage was tedious. She spent too much time in each spot. I was bored. I gave her all the signals, but she bolted out the door after the massage with a 'Done! I sat there for a couple minutes thinking she would come back. She peeked in again to tell me I was done. I asked if there was more and she laughed a "No" at me. I think I was shocked the whole thing went so sideways from my expectations. I'm a decent looking guy in good shape. Did I just come on a really bad day? What the hell happened? I walked out without tipping her. I have never done that. I'm usually overly generous. I'm never going back, so no loss to me. If you have a long drive here, I would look elsewhere.
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Burn
[QUOTE=Marsh1515;5589489]This might be surprising to some, but I just had a terrible experience with Nicole. It was my personal worst AMP experience.
After the many glowing reviews, I planned to go check out Nicole. I called probably six times this week, but never got through. It was a hike to get there, so I was nervous to just walk in without an appointment. From reading other reviews, it seemed like she doesn't answer the phone. I crossed my fingers and drove there.
When I got there, she seemed annoyed when I asked for an appointment. Thought that was a bad sign. She was young and had a nice body, but not the bubbly, fun attitude I had heard about. She was jaded and grumpy. Someone came in while I was getting the massage and she went out and just yelled that they were busy. She slammed the office door but had to go back to answer his questions. He just wanted to know when to come back. I thought her loud, exasperated groan as she came back was a little much. I tried to make small talk but she wasn't interested. The whole massage was basically in silence.
The massage was tedious. She spent too much time in each spot. I was bored. I gave her all the signals, but she bolted out the door after the massage with a 'Done! I sat there for a couple minutes thinking she would come back. She peeked in again to tell me I was done. I asked if there was more and she laughed a "No" at me. I think I was shocked the whole thing went so sideways from my expectations. I'm a decent looking guy in good shape. Did I just come on a really bad day? What the hell happened? I walked out without tipping her. I have never done that. I'm usually overly generous. I'm never going back, so no loss to me. If you have a long drive here, I would look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]That most definitely doesn't sound like Nicole, I just can't see that.
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Broad St Manchester
Saw Hannah again a few days ago. She gave a hard massage with her feet which I liked. HJ + prostate massage afterwards, fun!
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Me too
Been trying to call and set up an appointment for 2 days without luck. Drove over 30 minutes to find that they were closed at 8 pm. Knocked on door, heard someone inside but never answered. Went down the street to silver since it was my closet option.
[QUOTE=Marsh1515;5589489]This might be surprising to some, but I just had a terrible experience with Nicole. It was my personal worst AMP experience.
After the many glowing reviews, I planned to go check out Nicole. I called probably six times this week, but never got through. It was a hike to get there, so I was nervous to just walk in without an appointment. From reading other reviews, it seemed like she doesn't answer the phone. I crossed my fingers and drove there.
When I got there, she seemed annoyed when I asked for an appointment. Thought that was a bad sign. She was young and had a nice body, but not the bubbly, fun attitude I had heard about. She was jaded and grumpy. Someone came in while I was getting the massage and she went out and just yelled that they were busy. She slammed the office door but had to go back to answer his questions. He just wanted to know when to come back. I thought her loud, exasperated groan as she came back was a little much. I tried to make small talk but she wasn't interested. The whole massage was basically in silence.
The massage was tedious. She spent too much time in each spot. I was bored. I gave her all the signals, but she bolted out the door after the massage with a 'Done! I sat there for a couple minutes thinking she would come back. She peeked in again to tell me I was done. I asked if there was more and she laughed a "No" at me. I think I was shocked the whole thing went so sideways from my expectations. I'm a decent looking guy in good shape. Did I just come on a really bad day? What the hell happened? I walked out without tipping her. I have never done that. I'm usually overly generous. I'm never going back, so no loss to me. If you have a long drive here, I would look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BigBang2;5589947]That most definitely doesn't sound like Nicole, I just can't see that.[/QUOTE]I swear I read another post here of an almost identical experience happening with her, can't find it though. I wonder if she is getting burnt out.
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[QUOTE=LowAndSlow;5590495]I swear I read another post here of an almost identical experience happening with her, can't find it though. I wonder if she is getting burnt out.[/QUOTE]Me too, been to Burn one time and it was nothing special didn't get Nicole but given the 50/50 on her attitude.
I am not making a special trip.
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Well, I'm the new guy on the block, I'm sure I'll step on toes, so here we go.
I have seen Nicole a few times. She's a cute kid, nice body, nice attitude, did what I requested. Repeat visits, simple, I didn't ask for anything, she just does it. I'll return.
Let's not be like bees when the hive is destroyed. Or vultures eating a dead animal on the side of the road.
Put yourself in her shoes. Guys come in, treat her like a blow up doll. Maybe she had a bad day, rent went up, she was hungry, who knows. She's smart and a decent person. Think of it this way. If your experience was poor. Maybe, just maybe she was telling you something.
Since C-19, market conditions have changed. We have more AMPs. The rotation of providers change almost weekly, hard to keep providers happy. Not easy industry.
Let's keep things positive. If you guys have someone better, tells us so we can compare. For some members it's a special AMP for some it's not. IMO. Enjoy.
For the members I haven't responded, clear in box.
[QUOTE=Marsh1515;5589489]This might be surprising to some, but I just had a terrible experience with Nicole. It was my personal worst AMP experience.
After the many glowing reviews, I planned to go check out Nicole. I called probably six times this week, but never got through. It was a hike to get there, so I was nervous to just walk in without an appointment. From reading other reviews, it seemed like she doesn't answer the phone. I crossed my fingers and drove there.
When I got there, she seemed annoyed when I asked for an appointment. Thought that was a bad sign. She was young and had a nice body, but not the bubbly, fun attitude I had heard about. She was jaded and grumpy. Someone came in while I was getting the massage and she went out and just yelled that they were busy. She slammed the office door but had to go back to answer his questions. He just wanted to know when to come back. I thought her loud, exasperated groan as she came back was a little much. I tried to make small talk but she wasn't interested. The whole massage was basically in silence.
The massage was tedious. She spent too much time in each spot. I was bored. I gave her all the signals, but she bolted out the door after the massage with a 'Done! I sat there for a couple minutes thinking she would come back. She peeked in again to tell me I was done. I asked if there was more and she laughed a "No" at me. I think I was shocked the whole thing went so sideways from my expectations. I'm a decent looking guy in good shape. Did I just come on a really bad day? What the hell happened? I walked out without tipping her. I have never done that. I'm usually overly generous. I'm never going back, so no loss to me. If you have a long drive here, I would look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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Marsh
[QUOTE=ChadZ1212;5590778]Well, I'm the new guy on the block, I'm sure I'll step on toes, so here we go.
I have seen Nicole a few times. She's a cute kid, nice body, nice attitude, did what I requested. Repeat visits, simple, I didn't ask for anything, she just does it. I'll return.
Let's not be like bees when the hive is destroyed. Or vultures eating a dead animal on the side of the road.
Put yourself in her shoes. Guys come in, treat her like a blow up doll. Maybe she had a bad day, rent went up, she was hungry, who knows. She's smart and a decent person. Think of it this way. If your experience was poor. Maybe, just maybe she was telling you something.
Since C-19, market conditions have changed. We have more AMPs. The rotation of providers change almost weekly, hard to keep providers happy. Not easy industry.
Let's keep things positive. If you guys have someone better, tells us so we can compare. For some members it's a special AMP for some it's not. IMO. Enjoy.
For the members I haven't responded, clear in box.[/QUOTE]Marsh We are going to put you in the Burn Hall of Fame. After 5 years of positive Nicole posts an experiences you had a terrible one.
I echo other poster. That just does not sound like Nicole. Since April the phone is not answered regularly That may have to do with an.
Massuse shortage leaving no one at the phone. Some like Burn Some like Silver. But lets try an keep things positive. Just my 2 cents.
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Imo
I've seen Nicole twice. I see why she has a good reputation. Good looking girl and good technique. But I understand where the original poster is coming from. My second visit, she seemed disinterested. I felt like I was forcing a good experience. I was very respectful and tried small talk incase she was having an off day. I know these girls get burnt out in that environment. But I don't think it's wrong to be considerate of your own needs too. Or to be honest that your situation wasn't the same. I have a feeling others here haven't spoke up because they didn't want to be the person who stood out in the group. The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
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[QUOTE=ChadZ1212;5590778]Well, I'm the new guy on the block.[/QUOTE]Doubtful based on previous posts.
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I have offered a couple of the glowing reviews, but I can see how this could happen. Nicole is very emotional. I connected with her early on, and it seemed to put her in a good mood when she saw me. (LIke you, I tend to tip a bit more than others, and I'm sure she remembered that). If she is in a good mood, she is extremely playful and fun. But I can imagine her being in a shitty mood and showing it. Clearly, she was feeling put upon about something when you saw her. And it probably was not something you did.
Having said that, you are certainly right not to return. And I think the facility is deteriorating.
[QUOTE=Marsh1515;5589489]This might be surprising to some, but I just had a terrible experience with Nicole. It was my personal worst AMP experience.
After the many glowing reviews, I planned to go check out Nicole. I called probably six times this week, but never got through. It was a hike to get there, so I was nervous to just walk in without an appointment. From reading other reviews, it seemed like she doesn't answer the phone. I crossed my fingers and drove there.
When I got there, she seemed annoyed when I asked for an appointment. Thought that was a bad sign. She was young and had a nice body, but not the bubbly, fun attitude I had heard about. She was jaded and grumpy. Someone came in while I was getting the massage and she went out and just yelled that they were busy. She slammed the office door but had to go back to answer his questions. He just wanted to know when to come back. I thought her loud, exasperated groan as she came back was a little much. I tried to make small talk but she wasn't interested. The whole massage was basically in silence.
The massage was tedious. She spent too much time in each spot. I was bored. I gave her all the signals, but she bolted out the door after the massage with a 'Done! I sat there for a couple minutes thinking she would come back. She peeked in again to tell me I was done. I asked if there was more and she laughed a "No" at me. I think I was shocked the whole thing went so sideways from my expectations. I'm a decent looking guy in good shape. Did I just come on a really bad day? What the hell happened? I walked out without tipping her. I have never done that. I'm usually overly generous. I'm never going back, so no loss to me. If you have a long drive here, I would look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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Useful post. Info we all can use.
[QUOTE=Woody50;5591201]Doubtful based on previous posts.[/QUOTE]
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I realize your opinion. It's the inconsistency that I see as the issue. Yes, sometimes members get hammer for speaking up. It seems when negative press is posted about certain providers, members jump on the wagon, and pounce. If members had a bad experience with Nicole, what wait to post? Let the truth be told, the negativity about Nicole is simple, members didn't get laid, so they criticize her and her techniques.
It will be interesting if members who had positive experience with Nicole step up and defend her. We will see gents.
[QUOTE=OffTheGrid860;5590975]I've seen Nicole twice. I see why she has a good reputation. Good looking girl and good technique. But I understand where the original poster is coming from. My second visit, she seemed disinterested. I felt like I was forcing a good experience. I was very respectful and tried small talk incase she was having an off day. I know these girls get burnt out in that environment. But I don't think it's wrong to be considerate of your own needs too. Or to be honest that your situation wasn't the same. I have a feeling others here haven't spoke up because they didn't want to be the person who stood out in the group. The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrMike1952;5591302]I have offered a couple of the glowing reviews, but I can see how this could happen. Nicole is very emotional. I connected with her early on, and it seemed to put her in a good mood when she saw me. (LIke you, I tend to tip a bit more than others, and I'm sure she remembered that). If she is in a good mood, she is extremely playful and fun. But I can imagine her being in a shitty mood and showing it. Clearly, she was feeling put upon about something when you saw her. And it probably was not something you did.
Having said that, you are certainly right not to return. And I think the facility is deteriorating.[/QUOTE]So she sounds like a typical wife or girlfriend, good days an bad days. LOL.
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Pure
Went and checked it out last week. 2 girls working. One chunky spanish girl and an african american one. I chose the spanish one. 30 min was a 60 house fee and another 110 for a basic flip. Extra 50 to get her nude. Massage was terrible and touching was allowed but not worth the expense at all. Should have stayed home.
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Silver
Went to Silver Lane a few days back. Had Sue. Good experience overall. No problem with roaming. Massage was not good. She has very limited massage skills. She pushed down rather than actually massaging. ST was excellent. Sue is a little older (40 ish?) but body is in really good shape. Still attractive. Asked for some extras and got a no on that. Standard AMP experience.
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Burn 2. 0
I totally get it. It's very possible I did run into Nicole on an off day. (She did say her name was Nicole when I asked.) I imagine traffic has blown up there, and it would be easy to burn out if she's the only one working there regularly. Hoping for others it's just a one off.
Didn't mean to come off too harsh. It's rare that I get the chance to step out, and I was looking forward to meeting Nicole. It didn't help that I went out of my way to get there, so I think I was a little steamed after my less than stellar visit.
I've been more of a lurker on the site, but I've been trying to make helpful posts when I can. I thought I would post my unusual visit with Nicole, since I thought it could give another perspective. I know if I had read my review beforehand, I would not have risked a long drive.
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Ginza Stop Today
[QUOTE=OffTheGrid860;5588876]Great report, Severus. Will definitely stop by to meet them.[/QUOTE]I went there today and had Wendy. She is 38 yrs as you said nice ass and eraser nips on the B-cups. Very accommodating, got a HJ total nude with suckling and touching on the out side of the V. Damage was. 8 in addition to house fee. She wouldn't do BJ, but you can tell she hasn't been here long, country or Ginza. Lisa 42 yrs old is willing with the BJ, nice figure and Mimi is Mama-San so you deffently don't want her straight Mechanical HJ, she seems to have the other girls busy and only handles the over flow.
Stay Safe.
EG33.
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All we can do is post our experiences, good, bad or something in between. It must be almost 2 years I was having some great fun while others were not, so I'd see posts about taking my posts with a huge grain of salt. Don't let it sway what you write. I've met Nicole and had a wonderful time. For me the menu wasn't full enough so I moved on. I'm sorry your experience was a letdown, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't share. My 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Marsh1515;5592669]I totally get it. It's very possible I did run into Nicole on an off day. (She did say her name was Nicole when I asked.) I imagine traffic has blown up there, and it would be easy to burn out if she's the only one working there regularly. Hoping for others it's just a one off.
Didn't mean to come off too harsh. It's rare that I get the chance to step out, and I was looking forward to meeting Nicole. It didn't help that I went out of my way to get there, so I think I was a little steamed after my less than stellar visit.
I've been more of a lurker on the site, but I've been trying to make helpful posts when I can. I thought I would post my unusual visit with Nicole, since I thought it could give another perspective. I know if I had read my review beforehand, I would not have risked a long drive.[/QUOTE]
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CT Blvd
I've read some generic reviews, bad reviews and vague good reviews in the Hartford General thread, so I thought I'd post here as I find it more appropriate.
For those of you who've visited this place, please PM me some details regarding attitude, menu, tips, etc. I've had some great fun at AMPs in your area so I'm willing to travel if I find it worthwhile. I haven't visited AMPs in my area since my last visit to Laffy in Norwich with Nina. I haven't visited a MP that isn't Asian yet. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
[URL]https://hartford.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/come-relax/628128630199[/URL]
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CT Blvd
[QUOTE=Newbie58;5593326]I've read some generic reviews, bad reviews and vague good reviews in the Hartford General thread, so I thought I'd post here as I find it more appropriate.
For those of you who've visited this place, please PM me some details regarding attitude, menu, tips, etc. I've had some great fun at AMPs in your area so I'm willing to travel if I find it worthwhile. I haven't visited AMPs in my area since my last visit to Laffy in Norwich with Nina. I haven't visited a MP that isn't Asian yet. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
[URL]https://hartford.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/come-relax/628128630199[/URL][/QUOTE]Check PM.
I visited the place probably for the last time. .6 + .9 + whatever else they ask for is a lot. Told them before leaving that this model is probably not sustainable. Of course they can do what they want and it's up to one's preference, but c'mon. Man, just under 200 for a tug? Also, got to know Blair isn't working there anymore.
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Ct blvd
[QUOTE=Newbie58;5593326]I've read some generic reviews, bad reviews and vague good reviews in the Hartford General thread, so I thought I'd post here as I find it more appropriate.
For those of you who've visited this place, please PM me some details regarding attitude, menu, tips, etc. I've had some great fun at AMPs in your area so I'm willing to travel if I find it worthwhile. I haven't visited AMPs in my area since my last visit to Laffy in Norwich with Nina. I haven't visited a MP that isn't Asian yet. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
[URL]https://hartford.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/come-relax/628128630199[/URL][/QUOTE]As most know you won't find any of the girls at the.
AboveSTG link. Overpriced an average looking girls there with usually poor service Lots of posts about this place in different thread General Reports
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Thanks Ron, I knew it was in the other thread and why I asked here instead. I've seen no good reviews really, thus the ask.
[QUOTE=RonOne;5593628]As most know you won't find any of the girls at the.
AboveSTG link. Overpriced an average looking girls there with usually poor service Lots of posts about this place in different thread General Reports[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CravenMorehed;5592130]So she sounds like a typical wife or girlfriend, good days an bad days. LOL.[/QUOTE]I had only good days with her.
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Ginza
Still had the itch, so I made a trip to Ginza. Read good things about Wendy, and I had a great time. Thanks for the tips!
Wendy was sweet and had a great attitude. She is late-30's and attractive. Got the nude HJ and left happy. Wasn't looking for more, and I didn't ask. Only negative was that the room was extremely dark, but that was a minor thing. I would go back.
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Ginza
[QUOTE=Marsh1515;5596689]Still had the itch, so I made a trip to Ginza. Read good things about Wendy, and I had a great time. Thanks for the tips!
Wendy was sweet and had a great attitude. She is late-30's and attractive. Got the nude HJ and left happy. Wasn't looking for more, and I didn't ask. Only negative was that the room was extremely dark, but that was a minor thing. I would go back.[/QUOTE]I saw Wendy at Ginza based off the recommendations. Pretty cute looking in person. Unfortunately, I didn't have a good experience. She asked if I wanted a soft or medium massage. I asked for medium, but a little strong in certain areas. She hammered my upper back to the point of discomfort. Not a good technique at all. I kindly asked to soften up. She responded nicely and continued. But spent way to much time in my shoulder area. It felt like she was burning out the clock. I asked if she can work other spots of my body. She moved lower and began with the tease. So I pretty much lost out on the full body massage. I felt like I had to provide a lot of direction during the session. But remained positive for the flip. She teased and asked if I wanted more. I said yes. She asked how much will I pay her. I said I will tip her good. She walked away, grabbed my pants, threw them on top of me, and asked me to pay upfront. Didn't say what I'd be getting. I've never had this happen before. It was very off putting. And my behavior would not indicate any suspicion. I've gone to Ginza plenty of times before. I wasn't aroused anymore and said I would be leaving. My back felt like shit for two days.
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251 Broad St
Had a session today with May. Overall, the best massage I have ever had! She is especially good at a foot massage, which I complimented her on and got an extra foot massage at the end.
Very sweet girl.
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New Oasis
Checked out New Oasis spa in Wethersfield today. Boy, is the layout bad. Anyone could walk straight in and get a peek of you in the act. Don't know who all I saw, but saw two ladies, both of them probably in their 60's. Too old for my liking. Ended up not going through and leaving after a nice little hi and bye. FS may be on the menu, but that just was not the place or providers for me.
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[QUOTE=Marsh1515;5596689]Still had the itch, so I made a trip to Ginza. Read good things about Wendy, and I had a great time. Thanks for the tips!
Wendy was sweet and had a great attitude. She is late-30's and attractive. Got the nude HJ and left happy. Wasn't looking for more, and I didn't ask. Only negative was that the room was extremely dark, but that was a minor thing. I would go back.[/QUOTE]Going to give Wendy a try just wondering if there is a table shower there?
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Lmp
Any Latina parlors in the Hartford county? Tired of driving down to Danbury.
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Jin is a gem and I believe 53. I never experienced Lisa there. Your concern about seeing into the rooms is unwarranted. You get in the room and the robe covers the window and the door is locked. Can't see shit.
[QUOTE=BLorenzo651;5598915]Checked out New Oasis spa in Wethersfield today. Boy, is the layout bad. Anyone could walk straight in and get a peek of you in the act. Don't know who all I saw, but saw two ladies, both of them probably in their 60's. Too old for my liking. Ended up not going through and leaving after a nice little hi and bye. FS may be on the menu, but that just was not the place or providers for me.[/QUOTE]
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Art of touch
[QUOTE=ChadZ1212;5564849]I don't know if extras are available. Never asked. She can crack a back. Let me know if they do.[/QUOTE]Went last week. Great massage from Melissa.
Sadly, place is very legit.
Too bad. The women there are really attractive.
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They are the real deal. Too bad Shannon's not around. She was very attractive.
[QUOTE=Joey1994;5600502]Went last week. Great massage from Melissa.
Sadly, place is very legit.
Too bad. The women there are really attractive.[/QUOTE]
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Like High School
Let's do this right. If you're not sure of age, don't speculate. One provider is 53 yo, the other is 48 yo. Both are nice providers. So what, someone sees you. Never got caught in high school. Locker room, backseat DeSoto, parent walking-in. Maybe they will learn something.
[QUOTE=BLorenzo651;5598915]Checked out New Oasis spa in Wethersfield today. Boy, is the layout bad. Anyone could walk straight in and get a peek of you in the act. Don't know who all I saw, but saw two ladies, both of them probably in their 60's. Too old for my liking. Ended up not going through and leaving after a nice little hi and bye. FS may be on the menu, but that just was not the place or providers for me.[/QUOTE]
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Like High School
Let's do this right. If you're not sure of age, don't speculate. One provider is 53 yo, the other is 48 yo. Both are nice providers. So what, someone sees you. Never got caught in high school. Locker room, backseat DeSoto, parent walking-in. Maybe they will learn something.
[QUOTE=BLorenzo651;5598915]Checked out New Oasis spa in Wethersfield today. Boy, is the layout bad. Anyone could walk straight in and get a peek of you in the act. Don't know who all I saw, but saw two ladies, both of them probably in their 60's. Too old for my liking. Ended up not going through and leaving after a nice little hi and bye. FS may be on the menu, but that just was not the place or providers for me.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BLorenzo651;5593513]Check PM.
Also, got to know Blair isn't working there anymore.[/QUOTE]She still works there, but she does charge extra now to let you touch her. (On top of the prices you quoted).
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[QUOTE=Rell1444;5601212]She still works there, but she does charge extra now to let you touch her. (On top of the prices you quoted).[/QUOTE]Good to know. Luna told me the last time when I asked for her that she doesn't work there anymore.
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[QUOTE=ChadZ1212;5600537]Let's do this right. If you're not sure of age, don't speculate. One provider is 53 yo, the other is 48 yo. Both are nice providers.[/QUOTE]My bad on jumping to conclusion. Lots of love for Jin, maybe I spoke too soon. Will visit again and post if I change my mind. End of the day, to each his own.
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Blair
[QUOTE=BLorenzo651;5593513]Check PM.
I visited the place probably for the last time. .6 + .9 + whatever else they ask for is a lot. Told them before leaving that this model is probably not sustainable. Of course they can do what they want and it's up to one's preference, but c'mon. Man, just under 200 for a tug? Also, got to know Blair isn't working there anymore.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to hear that she's gone, she had a great body and would have been the only reason I'd return.
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[QUOTE=BLorenzo651;5593513]Check PM.
I visited the place probably for the last time. .6 + .9 + whatever else they ask for is a lot. Told them before leaving that this model is probably not sustainable. Of course they can do what they want and it's up to one's preference, but c'mon. Man, just under 200 for a tug? Also, got to know Blair isn't working there anymore.[/QUOTE]I am not returning if Blair is gone, she was the only one that was worth it even if it was just for tug.