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[QUOTE=Fubar57;2771852]Hope you have success with that battle. So far I'm OH for many times.[/QUOTE]Thanks I'm just so tired of them, only good thing us I didn't smoke in house so w the cold weather it helps you to cut back, you should try it, the patches help a lot too. Some guys think it's got I been told I guess in a trashy raunchy way, I can see it.
[QUOTE=EGrayUpState;2773159]One of Joe's gangbang's definitely increases the Eskimo Brotherhood.[/QUOTE]Went again today, good time again with a sweet little spinner.
It's a dynamic that takes some getting used to.
Peace.
PK.
I figured you'd like my post!
[QUOTE=LokiPk;2773151]You really know how to fuck up a good thing don't ya!
PK.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LokiPk;2773702]Went again today, good time again with a sweet little spinner.
It's a dynamic that takes some getting used to.
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]Man, I give you credit. I think I'd crack under the pressure of having to perform publicly! LOL. Like you said, probably just something you'd have to get used to.
Hello all I am looking for a safe clean girl for some fun. Anal is a must. I'm new to this and I hear alot about Kira does she offer escort services or just body rubs. Any info would help. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Outlaws1756;2774260]Hello all I am looking for a safe clean girl for some fun. Anal is a must. I'm new to this and I hear alot about Kira does she offer escort services or just body rubs. Any info would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hey if you want, I can give you the combination to my safe, the keys to my house, my social security number and my mother's maiden name. Just let me know.
Well your a dick thanks. I would love the keys to your house I'll have your wife and your money.
[QUOTE=Outlaws1756;2774260]Hello all I am looking for a safe clean girl for some fun. Anal is a must. I'm new to this and I hear alot about Kira does she offer escort services or just body rubs. Any info would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry babe, but I don't meet the qualifications.
The members may nit provide info until you place some reviews or contribute a bit more to the community, just a heads up. If you didn't hear this already.
[QUOTE=Outlaws1756;2774260]Hello all I am looking for a safe clean girl for some fun. Anal is a must. I'm new to this and I hear alot about Kira does she offer escort services or just body rubs. Any info would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Its been a while since I actually took the time to say this, but 'READ THE FUCKING FORUM DUDE!!!!"
More than enough info around here to get you started.
PK.
[QUOTE=Outlaws1756;2774260]Hello all I am looking for a safe clean girl for some fun. Anal is a must. I'm new to this and I hear alot about Kira does she offer escort services or just body rubs. Any info would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Come on man, I'm new too but that's not how this works. Asking for trouble.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
[QUOTE=Outlaws1756;2774654]Well your a dick thanks. I would love the keys to your house I'll have your wife and your money.[/QUOTE]Great second post! You're off to a wonderful start.
I've been playing in the snow in NYC lately but I'm back from my hiatus on day one I check our favorite site to go shopping and see an add for a kitten named Ally. Anyone got the scoop on the ad? Pictures are more than likely fake. I called the number she told me she was booked. And to call back later let me know what's up guys.
And you wonder why the girls try and screen you. Don't complain.
[URL]http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/9268112-story[/URL]
[QUOTE=FloydMay22;2778516]And you wonder why the girls try and screen you. Don't complain.
[URL]http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/9268112-story[/URL][/QUOTE]Expect nothing less from Detroit. Providers should always be cautious. Most of us are considerate to these providers but it only takes one creep!
[QUOTE=JRod125;2778645]Expect nothing less from Detroit. Providers should always be cautious. Most of us are considerate to these providers but it only takes one creep![/QUOTE]I am surprised more providers don't screen. Most of the providers I have gotten to know well have pretty nasty tales of customers raping them, having knives at their throats, guns at their heads, being beaten up and being robbed. That has been across the board from"upscale" providers to streetwalkers. And then there are the verbally abusive ones. I do think there are considerate hobbyists but probably far less than you think. I think this business tends to bring out the worst in nearly all who participate on either side of the transaction.
What we don't hear is the other story.
As shady as this lifestyle is, there is always the other side.
Granted, nobody should be murdered but, it's part of the game.
[QUOTE=Matt574;2778735]I am surprised more providers don't screen. Most of the providers I have gotten to know well have pretty nasty tales of customers raping them, having knives at their throats, guns at their heads, being beaten up and being robbed. That has been across the board from"upscale" providers to streetwalkers. And then there are the verbally abusive ones. I do think there are considerate hobbyists but probably far less than you think. I think this business tends to bring out the worst in nearly all who participate on either side of the transaction.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Outlaws1756;2774654]Well your a dick thanks. I would love the keys to your house I'll have your wife and your money.[/QUOTE]I think you mean "YOU'RE", right?
I have been doing this kinda shit for a LONG time and have met some very interesting people.
I guess I'd just like to say how really great it is to meet 'like minded' individuals who KNOW how things ought to be.
Seeing some new faces and having 'hobby related' discussions is a great extra dynamic that I'm really enjoying as of late. There are so many more dudes out there that read but don't post, who 'GET IT' and can have a normal convo regarding this sport-fucking we all enjoy!
Sometimes, it feels almost lonely because you can't really talk to the people around you about the new 'adventures' you have been having. But I'm telling you there are plenty of us out there doing this and having a fucking blast!
The consensus seems to be ... 'if you are POLITE, CLEAN, COURTEOUS, and COOL' things will go well for you!... You'll make friends and influence people, who will share information with you if you are giving of your own.
Act like a DICK, and that's how you'll be treated!
If you are new, show the vets some respect and they will help you along.... Contempt will be met with contempt, plain and simple.
It's really not too difficult, but some folks just make it that way--TOO BAD for them!
To all the buds I've broken Bush with this week and last, KEEP IT UP! !!! 'cause it must be hard to stuff Mr. Softee into that pretty pink poon! ;)
GOOD TIMES!
Peace
PK.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;2779886]I have been doing this kinda shit for a LONG time and have met some very interesting people.
I guess I'd just like to say how really great it is to meet 'like minded' individuals who KNOW how things ought to be.
Seeing some new faces and having 'hobby related' discussions is a great extra dynamic that I'm really enjoying as of late. There are so many more dudes out there that read but don't post, who 'GET IT' and can have a normal convo regarding this sport-fucking we all enjoy!
Sometimes, it feels almost lonely because you can't really talk to the people around you about the new 'adventures' you have been having. But I'm telling you there are plenty of us out there doing this and having a fucking blast!
The consensus seems to be 'if you are POLITE, CLEAN, COURTEOUS, and COOL' things will go well for you! You'll make friends and influence people, who will share information with you if you are giving of your own. Act like a DICK, and that's how you'll be treated! If you are new, show the vets some respect and they will help you along. Contempt will be met with contempt, plain and simple.
It's really not too difficult, but some folks just make it that way--TOO BAD for them!
To all the buds I've broken Bush with this week and last, KEEP IT UP! 'cause it must be hard to stuff Mr. Softee into that pretty pink poon!
GOOD TIMES!
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]I've bern in the business for decades from coast-to-coast and I have to say that contempt is a pretty common attitude. I continue to try to be as pleasant as I can but providers can be pretty contemptuous. The adage that you get what you put out does necessarily apply. Even if they don't openly express it I believe that more often than not, that is how they feel. On the flip side, I think most men feel the same way towards providers. I think the business is rife with contempt. Having said that, I don't believe in openly acting in a contemptuous manner with rare exceptions. Not being argumentative. Just not sure if I agree with you 100% on this one.
[QUOTE=Matt574;2779895]I've bern in the business for decades from coast-to-coast and I have to say that contempt is a pretty common attitude. I continue to try to be as pleasant as I can but providers can be pretty contemptuous. The adage that you get what you put out does necessarily apply. Even if they don't openly express it I believe that more often than not, that is how they feel. On the flip side, I think most men feel the same way towards providers. I think the business is rife with contempt. Having said that, I don't believe in openly acting in a contemptuous manner with rare exceptions. Not being argumentative. Just not sure if I agree with you 100% on this one.[/QUOTE]I have found that to be an exception, not the rule, in my endeavors.
If you think that is 'prevalent' then, maybe you need to see different providers. Also, why would you think 'most men' feel contempt for providers?
Most of the guys I know feel empathy, sympathy and a degree of gratitude for the girls who provide for us.
Regardless, My OP was referring to the discussions I've had with fellow mongers in recent days / weeks. Not really about the chicks.
I've spent several hours in the past two weeks talking to a handful of hobbyists, face to face, about our favorite sport;) That was my 'take-away' from those discussions.
Straight-up.
Peace.
PK.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;2780299]I have found that to be an exception, not the rule, in my endeavors.
If you think that is 'prevalent' then, maybe you need to see different providers. Also, why would you think 'most men' feel contempt for providers?
Most of the guys I know feel empathy, sympathy and a degree of gratitude for the girls who provide for us.
Regardless, My OP was referring to the discussions I've had with fellow mongers in recent days / weeks. Not really about the chicks.
I've spent several hours in the past two weeks talking to a handful of hobbyists, face to face, about our favorite sport;) That was my 'take-away' from those discussions.
Straight-up.
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]Years ago, on the West Coast, I paid my way through college partly through driving for a couple of agencies. I met many different providers from every corner of the globe. Different ages, colors, economic background, etc. Some were well-established with wealthy clientele, others were starting out. Some last a couple of days, others had been doing it for a long time and were investing in Silicon Valley stocks. The full gamut. I would get to hear the stories and the walls would come down at 3:00 am and the truth would bubble out. There was one common denominator for all of them and that was the contempt they felt for their customers. Sometimes it was virulent, other times mild, but it was always there.
Now, having said that, I am sure that there are providers who don't feel that way. Of those, I think there are some who are looking for a savior. I am sure there are other motivations, attitudes and perceptions as well.
When I say that I believe that most hobbyist feel the same way its for a number of reasons namely that so many providers have told me they feel it. Secondly from the things I've read on various around the country. Fourth, have you ever been around a guy who fell in love with a provider and it ended badly? The suppressed contempt explodes in a way on a different level from your ru-of-the-mill bad break-up. Finally, is paying someone to let them allow you to piss on them, cum on their face, or fuck them hard in the ass an act of respect? At best its playing out a fantasy with mutual agreement and terms but I am going to make a big leap and say there is a fundamental lack of respect there. Its debatable, I will grant you that.
I want to be clear I am expressing this in the spirit of discussion, conversation and acknowledge that I could be wrong. Not an attack on you or anyone else. And I am not holding out myself as a paragon of virtue. I had to laugh at myself just writing that LOL.
With respect.
[QUOTE=Matt574;2780418]Years ago,.........
........I want to be clear I am expressing this in the spirit of discussion, conversation and acknowledge that I could be wrong. Not an attack on you or anyone else. And I am not holding out myself as a paragon of virtue. I had to laugh at myself just writing that LOL.
With respect.[/QUOTE]OUTSTANDING!
Points well made and well taken! :)
Peace.
PK.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;2780564]OUTSTANDING!
Points well made and well taken! :)
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]Well now you're making me blush. 😉128521;128521;.
I don't normally post much as I prefer to remain low key, even though I have been in this hobby for more than 3 decades I have to say I really enjoy reading your comments and do agree with both of you. Respect goes a long way even if you don't get it in return, treat these girls as you would your wives and you will get more out of most of these ladies.
[QUOTE=BoxTop51;2780672]I don't normally post much as I prefer to remain low key, even though I have been in this hobby for more than 3 decades I have to say I really enjoy reading your comments and do agree with both of you. Respect goes a long way even if you don't get it in return, treat these girls as you would your wives and you will get more out of most of these ladies.[/QUOTE]I would take it one step further and say treat them as human beings because once you step into that room with a provider you are on the very same level as they are. Its not just an issue of treating them well to get more out of them. None of us are better or worse in any fundamental way than the provider we just paid. I don't care if they have the worst habits on the planet there is no moral superiority in that room (or car).
[QUOTE=Matt574;2781056]I would take it one step further and say treat them as human beings because once you step into that room with a provider you are on the very same level as they are. Its not just an issue of treating them well to get more out of them. None of us are better or worse in any fundamental way than the provider we just paid. I don't care if they have the worst habits on the planet there is no moral superiority in that room (or car).[/QUOTE]Man that is so true. I couldn't agree more.
[QUOTE=Matt574;2781056]I would take it one step further and say treat them as human beings because once you step into that room with a provider you are on the very same level as they are. Its not just an issue of treating them well to get more out of them. None of us are better or worse in any fundamental way than the provider we just paid. I don't care if they have the worst habits on the planet there is no moral superiority in that room (or car).[/QUOTE]Perfectly said. This is my vice. , not a day goes by that I hope to never do this again, but I'm hooked. We are no better or worse.
[QUOTE=Matt574;2781056]I would take it one step further and say treat them as human beings because once you step into that room with a provider you are on the very same level as they are. Its not just an issue of treating them well to get more out of them. None of us are better or worse in any fundamental way than the provider we just paid. I don't care if they have the worst habits on the planet there is no moral superiority in that room (or car).[/QUOTE]Well said! !!
Too bad some are not as smart as you, fortunately some are tho, they are the ones I choose to see. It can be quickly figured out who is who.
There is nothing sexier then a man w a brain.
[QUOTE=KiraXXX;2782730]Well said! !!
Too bad some are not as smart as you, fortunately some are tho, they are the ones I choose to see. It can be quickly figured out who is who.
There is nothing sexier then a man w a brain.[/QUOTE]I am a man of "Very Little Brain".
[QUOTE=DsjForever;2586930]What happened to Destiny? Is she gone for good? Dead? I must have missed what happened.[/QUOTE]Several months back she told me that at some point she intended to move to Florida at some point.
She is retired.
I came across her profile on Facebook once. She had on her shirt showing where she now works.
Good for her for getting out. From what I was told she did this to support her college education. When she finished, she got out.
[QUOTE=StemCells;2786235]Several months back she told me that at some point she intended to move to Florida at some point.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SnakePliskin1;2789513]She is retired.
I came across her profile on Facebook once. She had on her shirt showing where she now works.
Good for her for getting out. From what I was told she did this to support her college education. When she finished, she got out.[/QUOTE]That partly agrees with what I heard. I thought she moved away to rejoin her family at the end of the semester in Jan 2015, but perhaps had to continue college there because she didn't say whether she would have her degree by then. She and the family lived far apart and really missed each other.
She planned to stay in the business after moving because she was not only paying for college but also supporting her family, who were down with it and "don't mind the money at all" as George Jones says. She hoped she could work more anonymously in the new place. Maybe now a year later she's got the degree required for the new career but, again, I don't know whether that means she'd drop the old one.
All-time sweetest sweetie, plus looks and brains. (But why'all know that.) She had this amazing discipline such that she seemed always at the top of her game without letting the work grind her down, and always the eye on the prize. Whatever she does, she'll succeed.
Carl Sandburg wrote a poem about it:
"GONE. ".
EVERYBODY loved Chick Lorimer in our town.
Far off.
Everybody loved her.
So we all love a wild girl keeping a hold.
On a dream she wants.
Nobody knows now where Chick Lorimer went.
Nobody knows why she packed her trunk. A few old things.
And is gone.
Gone with her little chin.
Thrust ahead of her.
And her soft hair blowing careless.
From under a wide hat.
Dancer, singer, a laughing passionate lover.
Were there ten men or a hundred hunting Chick?
Were there five men or fifty with aching hearts?
Everybody loved Chick Lorimer.
Nobody knows where she's gone.
[QUOTE=PolyKarp;2789969]That partly agrees with what I heard. I thought she moved away to rejoin her family at the end of the semester in Jan 2015, but perhaps had to continue college there because she didn't say whether she would have her degree by then. She and the family lived far apart and really missed each other.
She planned to stay in the business after moving because she was not only paying for college but also supporting her family, who were down with it and "don't mind the money at all" as George Jones says. She hoped she could work more anonymously in the new place. Maybe now a year later she's got the degree required for the new career but, again, I don't know whether that means she'd drop the old one.
All-time sweetest sweetie, plus looks and brains. (But why'all know that.) She had this amazing discipline such that she seemed always at the top of her game without letting the work grind her down, and always the eye on the prize. Whatever she does, she'll succeed.
Carl Sandburg wrote a poem about it:
"GONE. ".
EVERYBODY loved Chick Lorimer in our town.
Far off.
Everybody loved her.
So we all love a wild girl keeping a hold.
On a dream she wants.
Nobody knows now where Chick Lorimer went.
Nobody knows why she packed her trunk. A few old things.
And is gone.
Gone with her little chin.
Thrust ahead of her.
And her soft hair blowing careless.
From under a wide hat.
Dancer, singer, a laughing passionate lover.
Were there ten men or a hundred hunting Chick?
Were there five men or fifty with aching hearts?
Everybody loved Chick Lorimer.
Nobody knows where she's gone.[/QUOTE]You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Date: 2-9-16.
Provider: Natalia.
Phone: 347-830-3206.
URL / Website: none.
City: Albany.
State: New York.
Address: Albany, near Washington Park.
Appointment Type: Incall.
Did the Appointment take place at the agreed-upon time?: Yes.
Activities: Nipple sucking (mutual), HJ, CBJ, CG, mish.
Session Length: 30.
Fee: 100.
Hair Length and Color: long dark brown.
Age: 25.
Smoking Status: I Couldn't Tell.
Ethnic Background: Hispanic.
Physical Description: Mid-20's, 5'6, 140 lbs, Hispanic, brown eyes, long dark brown hair, beautiful all natural see-cups.
So on the advice of a friend, paid Natalia a visit today. She's advertised on BP in the past, but according to my friend would now like to see customers via word of mouth only, as she's tired of the whole BP / Bitcoin thing. Easy set-up through text and arrived on time and horny at her downtown Albany residence. We walk up a flight of stairs and enter her small yet functional apartment. My initial impression of her was although very casually dressed, she definitely had a very sexy and exotic look to her. Long dark brown hair and sexy brown eyes, she had a nice medium build with curves where they should be. Natalia mentioned to me she's originally from Puerto Rico. I kept thinking she looked a little like Lisa Bonet from the Cosby Show, and possessed a very polite and respectful demeanor. I inquire as to what's on the menu and she informs me for the 100 HH everything is covered. Kissing, DATY, and BBBJ are available but are extra. I was OK with the bare-bones menu, as she was hot and I so wanted to fuck her. I will say right now if you're looking for a GFE on the cheap you'll have to look elsewhere. So we strip down in her living room and I get hard almost right away at the sight of her nice, chunky see-cup titties. Beautiful large, responsive nips with medium sized areolas. I grab the goods and start working them with my lips, tongue and teeth. Nothing like a good mouthful of womanly goodness to run your tongue over. We stand there naked for a few minutes so I can kiss and caress her shoulders, neck and chest area to my heart's content. I'm rock hard at this point and we move to the couch. I lie down and she begins kissing my neck, working slowly down to my nipples, pausing for a minute to squeeze, lick and suck. She works my member nicely with her hand as she kisses further down towards my lower stomach. She then applies the cover (bring your own, guys, as she didn't have any) and she proceeds with a perfectly adequate CBJ. Although it was a bit mechanical, in all fairness to her I was already looking past this part in anticipation of the main event, so I didn't give any direction or special requests which may have improved her technique. Told her to hop on shortly thereafter, as the last thing I wanted to do was come during the BJ without having experienced FS. So she gets on CG style and we settle in to a nice rhythm. Nice soft noises from her as I pull her in close and thrust hard and fast, occasionally pausing to suck on her breasts. Almost lost it a few times as I frequently had to slow myself down. Wanted to finish in mish so I flipped her over and pounded away like a kid in a candy store. She was pretty quiet, but I was definitely OK with that as I'm not a loud guy myself. As I rocked her world in mish, she kept busy with more nipple pinching and sucking, which felt great. Finally I couldn't hold out any longer and came hard deep inside her pussy. Totally drained, we cleaned up and got dressed. Some more chit chat and then out the door I went. Since she's no longer on BP and semi-UTR, I have no pics to share, but will ask for some and if it's OK with her, will post. Would absolutely repeat.
Hot off the presses.
After 2 days of working my way down this list of other providers with no responses:
Ann - [URL]http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/dd-milf/17541244[/URL].
Natalay - [URL]http://www.************.com/albany/classifieds/ad/56bbdc95581cb-k9sytaPY3X5ZL-hkaSNyhCRR2-GqjdF2eg9s/[/URL].
Brittany - [URL]http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/brand-new-busty-babe-brittany-and-here-just-for-you/18535000[/URL].
Tried this one (Dee) too, also with no response. I don't remember seeing her here. Anybody tried her? Looks like fun - [URL]http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-new-newtattooed-and-pierced-wild-and-crazy-dee-lets-play-now-100hh-specials/19218234[/URL].
I finally got an answer from Lauren - [URL]http://www.************.com/albany/classifieds/ad/56bbdc9428657Q-efeK__d-4OGxZ2wz5GczaqqzHZyDGHXyzZe/[/URL].
Texted her a couple times on Wednesday with no response. Tried her again yesterday morning and finally got a response asking if I was looking for a body rub. I asked if anything else was on the menu and she offered a BBBJ for $. 6 saying that she wasn't doing FS for a couple days. Hint taken! She was conveniently 5 minutes from me at an in-call near the Latham circle. She needed time to shower, can't complain about that, and got back to me 40 minutes later with the room number telling me she was ready. Room was typical, not great, not awful, no funky smells. TKB, down she went and I left satisfied. Would repeat, especially when you factor in the proximity convenience. The.
She did ask if she could take a call just as she started. Set up the next appointment and right back to business. She said that she only sees a couple people / day because her phone starts driving her crazy and she turns it off, hence the difficulty reaching her. I tried to reach out to her again after I got back home to see what else would have been on the menu if not for being temporarily limited. As of yet I haven't gotten a response, and I doubt if I will.
[QUOTE=Matt574;2783342]I am a man of "Very Little Brain".[/QUOTE]Thats not true of you.
[QUOTE=Rdavis1972;2794562]After 2 days of working my way down this list of other providers with no responses:
Ann - [URL]http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/dd-milf/17541244[/URL].
Natalay - [URL]http://www.************.com/albany/classifieds/ad/56bbdc95581cb-k9sytaPY3X5ZL-hkaSNyhCRR2-GqjdF2eg9s/[/URL].
Brittany - [URL]http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/brand-new-busty-babe-brittany-and-here-just-for-you/18535000[/URL].
Tried this one (Dee) too, also with no response. I don't remember seeing her here. Anybody tried her? Looks like fun - [URL]http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-new-newtattooed-and-pierced-wild-and-crazy-dee-lets-play-now-100hh-specials/19218234[/URL].
I finally got an answer from Lauren - [URL]http://www.************.com/albany/classifieds/ad/56bbdc9428657Q-efeK__d-4OGxZ2wz5GczaqqzHZyDGHXyzZe/[/URL].
Texted her a couple times on Wednesday with no response. Tried her again yesterday morning and finally got a response asking if I was looking for a body rub. I asked if anything else was on the menu and she offered a BBBJ for $. 6 saying that she wasn't doing FS for a couple days. Hint taken! She was conveniently 5 minutes from me at an in-call near the Latham circle. She needed time to shower, can't complain about that, and got back to me 40 minutes later with the room number telling me she was ready. Room was typical, not great, not awful, no funky smells. TKB, down she went and I left satisfied. Would repeat, especially when you factor in the proximity convenience. The.
She did ask if she could take a call just as she started. Set up the next appointment and right back to business. She said that she only sees a couple people / day because her phone starts driving her crazy and she turns it off, hence the difficulty reaching her. I tried to reach out to her again after I got back home to see what else would have been on the menu if not for being temporarily limited. As of yet I haven't gotten a response, and I doubt if I will.[/QUOTE]$. 6 for head only? Yikes!
[QUOTE=Freedom2B;2794828]$. 6 for head only? Yikes![/QUOTE]I know, but I'd been drawing blanks for 2 days and don't care for street walker roulette. She answered and she was close. I was gone from the office all of 20 minutes. There's something to be said for the convenience factor.