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The point in referencing vouches from other provider's gives you the sense of the client PRIOR to meeting him.

Just as in reversal, the ladies reviews validate them Prior to you meeting them.

Both have a meeting of the minds equal in a level of comfort.

I know several ladies who have used license check as a reference and been attacked after.

A license tells nothing of who the client is. It only offer's his legal name.

I also know ladies that have been busted in stings after checking the license.

It gives a false sense of security and I hate ladies who are learning to screen to read this and use it as a referencing tool.

It is ineffective.

Yes if he does something to you, then you will have his legal name.

However, I thoroughly suggest screening the client by other methods than to rely on this one.

I have said it time and time again to ladies who have learned the hard way and take my advice with a grain of salt.

Ladies:

If it sounds too good to be true- It usually is.

Not all money is good money and being greedy is when you get in trouble.

If he is a problem on the phone or email. He will be worse in person!

If he is asking you for things you do not provide on the phone or email. Why do you think he will not try it in person.

Avoid problems by foreseeing them prior to the appointment, let the thought of the money fade to the priority of your safety.

Gentlemen:

Respect a ladies screening process. Although you may not agree with it, this is her comfort zone so that she can be a pleasant enjoyable provider.

A nervous provider = A bad date.

If you don't want to provide the things she requests then keep it moving.

When you argue with a lady about her screening, it makes you appear aggressive and will send the lady running!

Ok;

Basic information protection rules.

1) Never ever give or show a provider your licence. (If one is requested have a fake one on hand.)

2) Never use a check, screening, or validation site. (They are all ripoffs or LEO.)

3) Never give out your cell phone. (IF you want to talk via cell to provider make sure it is a trhow away that does not have your real address.)

4) If they ask to meny questins LEAVE! (GET AWAY!)

[QUOTE=Mister Pickles; 1273728]What extra measure of protection does knowing a client's last name, work info or seeing his driver's license provide? I'm being serious here. I've noticed that whenever the "safety versus privacy" discussion as it pertains to screening comes up providers tend to paint it as screening versus not screening and hobbyists paint it as common sense screening versus overly invasive screening. I'm in favor of common sense screening and I don't see the common sense in showing my identification or telling a provider where I work, much less giving her the phone number to human resources along with my extension. That's fucking nuts.

I've heard the talking points;"you should be happy that we screen, we do it for your safety as well, why don't you go get a SW, they don't screen, bla bla bla". As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong) the purposes of screening from a provider's perspective are to (1) ensure that the client is who he says he is, (2) to ensure that the client is not LEO or someone who wants to harm you and (3) to ensure that the person who knocks on the door is the same person who made the appointment, sent the emails, chatted on the phone etc. And all of this is supposed to keep you safer (ie not raped, robbed, killed or arrested). Got it. I completely understand, respect and sympathize with the provider's point of view.

Here's my point of view.

And let me stress again (so that it doesn't get conveniently overlooked) , [b]I am in favor of common sense screening[/b].

If membership on a verification site ensures the client is who he says he is, provider references ensure that the client is not LEO or a psycho, and a safe word ensures that the person who knocks on the door is the same person who made the appointment, sent the emails, chatted on the phone etc, then what extra measure of protection does a provider get from seeing a client's driver's license or knowing he's the electronics department manager at Wal-Mart? The driver's license part baffles me even moreso than the work info. If a guy is already in your room and presumably within arm's reach then he's already in a position to do whatever harm he intends to do. What is being accomplished by asking for his identification?

I'm relatively new and I'd really like a non-grand standy un-snarky answer. I'm not trying to be a jackass but I am not understanding the logic of super screeners.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Webebad; 1273609]I actually have appreciated your posts and think the world of your opinion. I was afraid somebody may have stolen your good name and photo and be trying to use it to get themselves business. And knowing you probably still looked here or had friends who looked I wanted to make sure it was you and not somebody sullying your good name. I apologize it I offened you and I know it's none of my business. If it was anyone else I would'nt care but over the time I have been here I have enjoyed your info and posts!

Sorry again. I'll keep to myself.

WBB.[/QUOTE]Well thank you WBB. I appreciate the posts of many here as well. Sometimes, however, one question often turns into a non-stop forum of B. S. And non-sense. I can always be reached via PM, email, phone, fb, twitter. LOL. You get the drift.

Xoxoxoxox.

Jenna

I have a question for all of you. I have talked to a couple providers here when I actually had a job about meeting sometime, but I lost my job, and they require screening now as far as I've seen. What does one do, if they do NOT have any experience, any references, and actually want to talk with one of the better ladies I have seen within this board. Because I would rather go see one of the ladies here than take a risk. SO what does one do? And that's when I get another job.

I have to agree with MP, Carlosa, Otwist and PeterPiper52. If any Provider feels so threatened for their safety that they must ask for real names, driver's license, real work phone numbers; etc, then by all means they must be prepared to reciprocate with like information about themselves, to include real home address that can be verified, since they are demanding enough information to easily gather our residential address. And why shouldn't they be offering the same info to us that they demand, since there are many reports of mongers getting robbed, blackmailed, or worse, physcially beaten! To say that the exchange of such vital and personal info should only be a one-way trip from the monger to the provider is insanity! For those mongers who foolishly gave such important information to an illegal business owner, and did not incur any bad repercussions, you were very lucky! Ever heard the phrase of "A woman scorned."? You better hope you never piss off any Provider that you gave such vital info to, or that the Provider is a loving mother who got busted and is threatened with her kids being takened away forever if she doesn't give up names. What mother would give up her children to keep her client's names safe? Come on, get real!

I've seen the LuvsGFE women, and at no time did I ever give anything other than my Profile name, Profile email address, phone number of my monger phone, and another Provider as a reference in order to get a first visit. For all Newbies, you can find a "first-time Provider" that won't ask for such invasive info, and once you've established a good trusting relationship with her (more than just a couple visits) , she will vouch for you when you encounter a Provider that wants additional info before seeing you. Once in a Blue Moon you might run across a very special Provider where she feels so close to you that she lets you into her personal life and shares everything with you, and you do the same with her. That is, at least, keeping things balanced and building a trust with each other over time. But there's no way anyone should be expected to give such personal info for a first meeting! Don't let the little head steer you to do something that could destroy not only your life, but the lives of your family as well.

Be Safe & Have Fun!

GM.

[QUOTE=Mister Pickles; 1273728]What extra measure of protection does knowing a client's last name, work info or seeing his driver's license provide? I'm being serious here. I've noticed that whenever the "safety versus privacy" discussion as it pertains to screening comes up providers tend to paint it as screening versus not screening and hobbyists paint it as common sense screening versus overly invasive screening. I'm in favor of common sense screening and I don't see the common sense in showing my identification or telling a provider where I work, much less giving her the phone number to human resources along with my extension. That's fucking nuts.

I've heard the talking points;"you should be happy that we screen, we do it for your safety as well, why don't you go get a SW, they don't screen, bla bla bla". As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong) the purposes of screening from a provider's perspective are to (1) ensure that the client is who he says he is, (2) to ensure that the client is not LEO or someone who wants to harm you and (3) to ensure that the person who knocks on the door is the same person who made the appointment, sent the emails, chatted on the phone etc. And all of this is supposed to keep you safer (ie not raped, robbed, killed or arrested). Got it. I completely understand, respect and sympathize with the provider's point of view.

Here's my point of view.

And let me stress again (so that it doesn't get conveniently overlooked) , [b]I am in favor of common sense screening[/b].

If membership on a verification site ensures the client is who he says he is, provider references ensure that the client is not LEO or a psycho, and a safe word ensures that the person who knocks on the door is the same person who made the appointment, sent the emails, chatted on the phone etc, then what extra measure of protection does a provider get from seeing a client's driver's license or knowing he's the electronics department manager at Wal-Mart? The driver's license part baffles me even moreso than the work info. If a guy is already in your room and presumably within arm's reach then he's already in a position to do whatever harm he intends to do. What is being accomplished by asking for his identification?

I'm relatively new and I'd really like a non-grand standy un-snarky answer. I'm not trying to be a jackass but I am not understanding the logic of super screeners.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Carlosa; 1273982]Ok;

Basic information protection rules.

1) Never ever give or show a provider your licence. (If one is requested have a fake one on hand.)

2) Never use a check, screening, or validation site. (They are all ripoffs or LEO.)

3) Never give out your cell phone. (IF you want to talk via cell to provider make sure it is a trhow away that does not have your real address.)

4) If they ask to meny questins LEAVE! (GET AWAY!) [/QUOTE]

Yes, a reality check is indeed in order.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;1273982]1) Never ever give or show a provider your licence. (If one is requested have a fake one on hand.)[/QUOTE]Thank you Matlock. You just advised advised your client to commit a [b]felony[/b], while already in the process of committing a misdemeaner. I suppose you tell some of your other clients to advertise as "body rubs" and "unlicensed massage" also? Our friends at UCF have been kind enough to provide a very clear and concise overview of the fake I'd laws in FLA. [url]http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~mwilliam/fake.html[/url].

If she insists on seeing I'd, either cover your address and name with a few fingers, or politely decline and leave. It is that simple.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;1273982]2) Never use a check, screening, or validation site. (They are all ripoffs or LEO.)[/QUOTE]What, exactly, is the basis of your statement? Certainly not facts. If you [b]choose[/b] Not to use them, don't [b]personally[/b] Trust them, etc, more power to you. But don't misrepresent them.

My personal experience with verification sites (including, but not limited to, Date-Check and P411) has neither proven to be a rip off, nor gotten me closer to Uncle. Plenty of other people can say the same thing, including more than a few of our fairer, female Forum members. In fact, these services have opened doors that might otherwise have remained closed.

The verification services simply provide another layer of protection for both parties. But like condoms, proper use of these sites helps you to be "safer", but not "safe". Like anything in this game, you still need to do your due diligence and research as there are always a few bad apples. Uncle LEO is always a risk, so long as dumbasses still buy into the fairy tale that they can cut you deals [b] (only DAs can) [/b] And offer to let them use their accounts under the misbegotten notion that it will get them out of trouble. Bad Interwebz security habits such as storing passwords without any security, etc also contributes to opportunities for misuse and abuse.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;1273982]3) Never give out your cell phone. (IF you want to talk via cell to provider make sure it is a trhow away that does not have your real address.)[/QUOTE]Reasonable advice. However, if you are not strictly and obsessively following burner phone protocol (cash only, dumping them regularly for new ones) , the protection this offers you from Uncle LEO begins to decline to the point of being moot. Wives and Significant Others, on the other hand, are only in the dark for as long as you can keep the phone a secret.

Not to mention with proper burner etiquette comes the added costs of constantly replacing your phone.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;1273982]4) If they ask to meny questins LEAVE! (GET AWAY!)[/QUOTE]Fair enough, though in all likelihood by the time you come to this conclusion you will either be frustrated from lack of sexual activity, or already getting personally acquainted with Uncle LEO. You can always lie, politely decline to answer, or simply ignore the questions. Personally, I would be looking to bail more for the fact she is either trying to burn the clock on me, or hustle more money because "we went over", than that she might be a bust.

[QUOTE=Makenzierae; 1273716]You really are a nice person aren't you. I was very polite to you in my message yet you personally attack me."I have alot to learn about security" and then you give all those circumstances. I never said it was 100% but no reason to attack my intelligence and what I do. However, did those ladies screen that had those unfortunate things happen to them? Most ladies who get into those situations do not screen. Just recently 2 girls in Orlando got attacked and guess what, they never screened! So you really can't use that as an example to flip back onto me.

Your question to me about asking if a guy would ask me. Just plain old stupid and you know that. AGAIN. All you guys act like I am asking for your life. Geez.

How many times do I have to repeat myself that I have gotten basic information and that is it. Of course, that is if they have references.

All these back and forth is just ridiculous and I just don't have time for anymore. Again, I respect other's points of views and opinions and I have mine. What I do has kept me safe AND I have never had an issue to date! Plus, my reputation means the world to me and I would never use information giving to me to hurt anyone AND I don't save information.

If a gentleman would like to see me. All they have to do is ask etc etc.

I wish all of you well and most importantly, don't attack someone. If you don't want to see someone because of their process then just move in. It's not worth all the back and forth. I am much more of an adult than to deal with this craziness anymore.

Please everyone have a great weekend.[/QUOTE]I perused my comments, and I don't see anywhere that I attacked YOU personally. As a matter of fact, I didn't attack anyone. I also wished you the best and hope that you make an abundance of money. If that's an attack, then I apologize. I merely mentioned that screening is not the "end all, be all" of safety for providers. There is information that would be just plain stupid to give out.

I asked "would you be willing to give the same info to me that I give to you?". Is that an attack? Is there a reason that a providers info is more important than my personal information? I respect your point of view, and hope that you respect mine. Hey, this is America. Everyone has an opinion. That's the beauty of this country, you can give your opinion without being jailed like they do in some countries that I've been in. I guess that you didn't like my opinion. That's cool. No problem here.

I have been in the security business for most of my life between the military and NSA. We were in positions where our anonymity had to remain sterile. So, I learned quite a bit about private info, and when to use it. Apparently, a lot of people agree with me.

Again, I did not mean to attack you or any other provider on this board. If you felt that I did attack you, then I'm man enough to apologize.

Hi gentlemen,

I'm Heaven Elise aka JuliaBabe. I wanted to introduce myself to you all because I'll be visiting you shortly. Any friendly advice for

When I get there? Besides the obvious, offer good service, be honest, and reliable and be smoking hot!

[QUOTE=Carlosa; 1273982]Ok;

Basic information protection rules.

1) Never ever give or show a provider your licence. (If one is requested have a fake one on hand.)

2) Never use a check, screening, or validation site. (They are all ripoffs or LEO.)

3) Never give out your cell phone. (IF you want to talk via cell to provider make sure it is a trhow away that does not have your real address.)

4) If they ask to meny questins LEAVE! (GET AWAY!) [/QUOTE]Respectfully I disagree. I use Datecheck. That shows the possible date that I am verified by 21 girls AND it verifies to me that they are OK if they are on Datecheck and another site. So the Datecheck thing helps me and it helps the girl as well.

Hello, Heaven Elise aka JuliaBabe! Only thing I can suggest is that you also post some photos and any link to your website here, and especially in the Escorts Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Commentaries or Reviews section of this forum, so that we may get an idea of what you look like and visit your ad for additional info.

Be Safe & Have Fun!

GM

[QUOTE=Heaven Elise; 1274626]Hi gentlemen,

I'm Heaven Elise aka JuliaBabe. I wanted to introduce myself to you all because I'll be visiting you shortly. Any friendly advice for

When I get there? Besides the obvious, offer good service, be honest, and reliable and be smoking hot![/QUOTE]

GMan ck report 1185 on the escort class. She has some nasty pic there! Man she has a huge dildo up her G.

YMWV

There you have "heaven Elise aka JuliaBabe"

Seems the Gatorgirls have found their way to our little hole in the wall. One of their new members posted on the classified section.

I met up with an old friends and we decided to play a little with his camera. Here are a few pics. Hope you guys enjoy them as much as I enjoyed taking them!

Jada69

[quote]S e x why Sk I l l e the & E x t are e m e l why A the the I see t I v e.

Have you been YEARNING for the company of a BEAUTIFUL WOMAN?

Allow me to ENTERTAIN your CURIOUSITY.

I have a hot body with TEMPTING CURVES.

Imagine getting lost in my CAPTIVATING hazel eyes or running your fingers across my SOFT SILKY SKIN.

My PROVOCATIVE SMILE & FLIRTATIOUS MOVES will AROUSE all of your DESIRES.

Something this SWEET & can be EXTREMELY ADDICTIVE.

HAILEY 407-301-9975.[/quote]I would be very wary of this post in the classified ad. No discussion section. The posters name is Britany, but her ad says Hailey. The phone number comes back to BUNCH of different names, pictures, posts, locations and services. Something is definitively not right here.

It seems to be tied into agatorgirls407, whatever that is. I don't know if its a service company or not, but its not something I would want to be bothered with.

If someone has more info please PM me. I would avoid this number and its related services.

Such a shame there are no reviews on the Brittany chick especially since she is sporting such nice Ta Tas.

[QUOTE=TruthSeaker; 1277883]I would be very wary of this post in the classified ad. No discussion section. The posters name is Britany, but her ad says Hailey. The phone number comes back to BUNCH of different names, pictures, posts, locations and services. Something is definitively not right here.

It seems to be tied into agatorgirls407, whatever that is. I don't know if its a service company or not, but its not something I would want to be bothered with.

If someone has more info please PM me. I would avoid this number and its related services.[/QUOTE]