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Thanks! Definitely agreed. However, is much more difficult to get respond or M&G with 18-22. They are often flake or just MIA while texting. Way too many are looking for just video / phone arrangement.

[QUOTE=Cubico;4459823]Haha, seriously? Can't believe she'd think someone will offer her 500 to watch her eat. The best advice I got here for SA was from hollywoodguy in the LA thread who said to not even look for women over 20 or 22 as they have more needs, like rent, school or kids, and will ask way more for offering less. After being on SA for 2 years, I agree 100%, women over 22 are a waste of time, younger ones are cheaper and more eager to please.[/QUOTE]

Has anybody had any good times with Ashley Madison? Yes, some of the girls do want an affair or SD, but there are others, even young girls, who are looking for P4 P. I'm about ready to take the plunge and try it out, but wanted to get some feedback for anyone with experience with AM. Thanks.

A hot 28 yo blonde contacted on my SA. We hit off pretty well, and did not talk about sugar particularly. We had a lunch date, and still was pleasant. After we departed, GPS bombs started hitting my phone. Need 3 k until by end of Sept, and can see her in the next 2-3 months. Blah blah blah. Sigh. Sad but I had similar encounter 8 years ago. Of course, as a rookie, I gave in. And GPS went MIA. Not going to make the same mistake. Just want to vent it out a bit.

Hey guys,

First of I want to know what you guys think of [URL]Secretbenefit.com[/URL]. Second had this older woman contact me. She was quiet forward and wanted right off the bat for me to come meet her at her place. That just set off a number of bells. Anyone that can get back to me is appreciated.

[QUOTE=DogRice;4463822]A hot 28 yo blonde contacted on my SA. We hit off pretty well, and did not talk about sugar particularly. We had a lunch date, and still was pleasant. After we departed, GPS bombs started hitting my phone. Need 3 k until by end of Sept, and can see her in the next 2-3 months. Blah blah blah. Sigh. Sad but I had similar encounter 8 years ago. Of course, as a rookie, I gave in. And GPS went MIA. Not going to make the same mistake. Just want to vent it out a bit.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. Kind to share her Handle on SA?

[QUOTE=AeroStartC;4463058]Has anybody had any good times with Ashley Madison? Yes, some of the girls do want an affair or SD, but there are others, even young girls, who are looking for P4 P. I'm about ready to take the plunge and try it out, but wanted to get some feedback for anyone with experience with AM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've had the WORST luck with that site compared to say SA. I bounced between the two for several years and it was pretty much a big fat zero. I signed up on AM as a girl to see what I was up against and with no photo, and like one sentence I had over 200 messages in less than 8 hours. It's like 1 gal for every 200 guys. If you're lucky to get your message read and move to a texting platform, they are usually talking to 5 other guys there and the chances of getting that first date are pretty rare. In the 3 years I was on there, I maybe met 3 women and all were a bust honestly. I'd stick to SA where the odds are way more in our favor and the options are plenty. Of course this is in Denver where I live so your experience may be different in SD, but just sharing my experience. Funny thing is most the profiles on AM seem fake and the few who I did make it to texting with always gave the same excuse when it came time to meet after stringing me along for several weeks. I've already met someone I like now. I suspect they are paid employees to keep men interested each time and have you think, I was so close this time. It took so much time and effort to meet the few women I did, I gave up on it. One week on SA and I've got 4 dates lined up. If you do it and have any luck, would love to hear your experiences.

So, this GPS msg me saying that 300 per date is fine. However, I have some 19-22 pots lining up for meet. 28 yo has missed the boat and all the GPS kills my mood.

[QUOTE=DogRice;4463822]A hot 28 yo blonde contacted on my SA. We hit off pretty well, and did not talk about sugar particularly. We had a lunch date, and still was pleasant. After we departed, GPS bombs started hitting my phone. Need 3 k until by end of Sept, and can see her in the next 2-3 months. Blah blah blah. Sigh. Sad but I had similar encounter 8 years ago. Of course, as a rookie, I gave in. And GPS went MIA. Not going to make the same mistake. Just want to vent it out a bit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AeroStartC;4463058]Has anybody had any good times with Ashley Madison? Yes, some of the girls do want an affair or SD, but there are others, even young girls, who are looking for P4 P. I'm about ready to take the plunge and try it out, but wanted to get some feedback for anyone with experience with AM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've had success on AM over the years, mostly married women in their 30's-40's, attractive, looking for an affair. I've seen providers who have profiles on there but never approached any of them on there. If you're married or have a SO there is more potential for drama because they aren't providers and come to the dance with their own SOs.

[QUOTE=LuvQuality;4464488]I've had the WORST luck with that site compared to say SA. I bounced between the two for several years and it was pretty much a big fat zero. I signed up on AM as a girl to see what I was up against and with no photo, and like one sentence I had over 200 messages in less than 8 hours. It's like 1 gal for every 200 guys. If you're lucky to get your message read and move to a texting platform, they are usually talking to 5 other guys there and the chances of getting that first date are pretty rare. In the 3 years I was on there, I maybe met 3 women and all were a bust honestly. I'd stick to SA where the odds are way more in our favor and the options are plenty. Of course this is in Denver where I live so your experience may be different in SD, but just sharing my experience. Funny thing is most the profiles on AM seem fake and the few who I did make it to texting with always gave the same excuse when it came time to meet after stringing me along for several weeks. I've already met someone I like now. I suspect they are paid employees to keep men interested each time and have you think, I was so close this time. It took so much time and effort to meet the few women I did, I gave up on it. One week on SA and I've got 4 dates lined up. If you do it and have any luck, would love to hear your experiences.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice review. I will still check it out and report back. There is also Secret Benefits. This is probably very similar to SA or run by the same people.

I reported 2 cases to SA about fake pictures. I detected those pictures are from the China web and SA does not have any actions against them even I sent my proofs. Their profiles are JUDY138 and Lily.

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I exchanged some messages w / JUDY138. Very fake and asking 300/2 hrs. Good Catch, Walker!

[QUOTE=JWalker350;4469632]I reported 2 cases to SA about fake pictures. I detected those pictures are from the China web and SA does not have any actions against them even I sent my proofs. Their profiles are JUDY138 and Lily.

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[QUOTE=JWalker350;4470577]These are either escorts or GPS. Their asking range is from 300-500.

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[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2d2f932e-da07-410f-b7bd-6fea3fdf0632[/URL][/QUOTE]Agree, it's getting to be a tough road to Hoe these days. Maybe it's the good economy, other guys out there over paying, GPS, etc. My general take is when they ask for 500 or tell you that is what they got in the past, I don't buy it because 9 times out of ten they will immediately drop to 400. With a little bit of protesting, I commonly get them to 300. Here is where negotiating gets tough. For me to agree to 300, they better be something exceptional, looks, figure, smile, personality. Performance on the other hand you never know until you get to the FC, but then that's when you decide if it's worth a repeat. Recently, one little tart that lived close by, we texted a bit, met for a M&G. Essentially played out as above. I decided to go with the 300, she said she would consider 250 if we met more in the future. Haha, like I believed that. Went to my place after the M&G, she was cute, tight little body. Got down to business, made her come with oral and then after the first round of mish. Then she started telling me to hurry up and come. I said only after you come 5 more times, and was doing her from multiple positions. In between her moaning she said she's not going to have sex for 2 hours, I said you need to find out the things that please me. That stepped up her efforts, and eventually finished. She got up, and wanted to know if I would see her again. Gave a lukewarm answer and said it was fun for the short time she was here. The following day she texted and wants to meet again, promises to spend more time. Claimed I really knew how to make her come and wants some more. I assume that means allowance. Haha. I've been holding out, said I will do 200 since she just wants to come by, take care of business and leave asap and no msog. I may agree to a little more knowing she realizes she has to work at pleasing me.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;4470577]These are either escorts or GPS. Their asking range is from 300-500.

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[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2d2f932e-da07-410f-b7bd-6fea3fdf0632[/URL][/QUOTE]Yep, take a look at the sugarlifestyle board on Reddit, these girls claim 1500-5000/ month, I think it bull. In my 5 years on SA (upstate NY), had 11 SBs, 9 are / were BBFSCIP always, one I got tired of waiting for her to change her mind about BBFS and the last was lunch dates only (ditched her fast). Ages 22-45 black and white girls. Got another one on the hook now, my usual is $150/ meet for BBFSCIP and I make it clear. I suspect that guys on SA may overestimate that there are SDs in their area that will pay enormous sums.

I make it clear up front what I do PPM (in terms of paying and its $150 max) and what I expect, so it's take it or leave it as far as I'm concerned. That has worked for me. Now if you are looking for eye candy to go out with and wine and dine, maybe it's going to cost more, but that's not what I look for.

I'm an average old guy with a pretty good personality and can talk easily to these girls. I'm direct and don't waste time. By meeting #2 (after a no-pay meet and greet for coffee), I expect to be balls deep in them and leave them a gift inside. Oh yes. And I verify that they are on contraception and clean.

The girls on Reddit seem to be looking for a relationship. Not what I want. Just fun, take a look at that board and you will laugh hard.

So for these "GPS" girls. Tell them what you offer and if they give you a line that other SDs have given them a large amount of money weekly / monthly / PPM, just say "good for you, thanks" and move on. Plenty of fish in the sea guys.

GG.

I got some of their messages and they definitely either escorts or UTR.

I have just re-joined the bowl a little bit over 1 week, and tons of Pros and "just online crap" (or just platonic). For 500 ppm, there are some very high-end escort out there in that price range and no need to deal w / SB trouble (hosting, blah blah blah). Is not looking good in this city.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;4470577]These are either escorts or GPS. Their asking range is from 300-500.

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