The Massholes

A2 I believe you said we can vent on here? Ugg. If so, here it goes. A potential new client made an appointment with me, not an exact time, but a sometime Monday morning appointment to see me. We've been pming up and back and I really like him. He asked me one time only, on Saturday at 8 pm to email recent pics of myself to him. I had forgotten to send them, but remembered 9 am this morning. The same time I was sending the pics, he pmed me on here telling me he's upset with me and I'm showing what my character is like but not sending the pics like he asked. He said something like "I made other plans, and as far as seeing you, thanks, but no thanks." So I emailed him back profusely apologizing for forgetting to send the pics earlier and offered him 50 % off the appointment. I sent him another email telling him that the money doesn't matter, so he can name his price. I didn't hear from him, figuring he must be really upset, I told him I"the see him for free. He sent me an email just recently telling me how upset he is with me, that I'm irresponsible and prefer posting on this board than tending to my responsibilities. I only posted once after 8 pm on Saturday when he requested the pics. Well I don't know what you all know about escorts businesses, but we get a shit load of calls, emails texts to wade through. I try my best to try to accomodate (can't' spell this damn word) everyone and if I fuck up I offer 50 % or free services depending on how bad the mistake is and how upset the guy is. Now I read on the other board about an escort who charges a fee if a client cancels on her 24 hours! Wow. I think she charges him for the entire session! A guy who saw her asked what everyone thought about her cancelling on him at the last min. And should he be compensated somehow (given a discounted session) and all the escorts said no. Here I am concerned about not sending pics earlier, I'm offering him a free session, and that's not compensation enough? I don't get it. Is he right and I'm not viewing this situation objectively? But I don't know any escort, especially on backpage, who'd give a rats ass over how they've inconvenienced you. Geeze. Ok, rant over. I would like to think I'm not a bad escort, but if this is a biggie mistake I again apologize for the error and sorry he won't give me a chance. Not like I need the money, I just like to treat people well and also want them to be satisfied. Any pms or comments here would be appreciated. Also can you all suggest how I can make it up to him. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2097403]I would like to think I'm not a bad escort, but if this is a biggie mistake I again apologize for the error and sorry he won't give me a chance. Not like I need the money, I just like to treat people well and also want them to be satisfied. Any pms or comments here would be appreciated. Also can you all suggest how I can make it up to him. Thanks.[/QUOTE]He needs to unbunch his panties. Forgetting to send pics is an error but it's not like missing an appointment. A sincere "sorry about that" covers this. If a 50% discount doesn't cover it fuck him. He'll be more trouble IF you see him.

One of the things I like about my job is I don't have to be nice to assholes. Some douchebag sent me an email the other day. "Tell me about your advertising" nothing more. No, "Hello, we are thinking..." or "Hi could you please send us info about..." just "Tell us about your advertising." Normally I do into detail about the sizes of ads, costs, impressions, ect. But for this douchebag I answered "when you figure out how polite people make a request, write me back." He responded by calling me an asshole (can't blame him) so I told him to fuck off.

Assholes that don't use common politeness are always more trouble than they are worth. Most of our advertisers have been with us a long, long, LONG fucking time and I don't want to deal with an asshole for the next couple years.

A2.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2097403]A2 I believe you said we can vent on here? Ugg. If so, here it goes. A potential new client made an appointment with me, not an exact time, but a sometime Monday morning appointment to see me. We've been pming up and back and I really like him. He asked me one time only, on Saturday at 8 pm to email recent pics of myself to him. I had forgotten to send them, but remembered 9 am this morning. The same time I was sending the pics, he pmed me on here telling me he's upset with me and I'm showing what my character is like but not sending the pics like he asked. He said something like "I made other plans, and as far as seeing you, thanks, but no thanks." So I emailed him back profusely apologizing for forgetting to send the pics earlier and offered him 50 % off the appointment. I sent him another email telling him that the money doesn't matter, so he can name his price. I didn't hear from him, figuring he must be really upset, I told him I"the see him for free. He sent me an email just recently telling me how upset he is with me, that I'm irresponsible and prefer posting on this board than tending to my responsibilities. I only posted once after 8 pm on Saturday when he requested the pics. Well I don't know what you all know about escorts businesses, but we get a shit load of calls, emails texts to wade through. I try my best to try to accomodate (can't' spell this damn word) everyone and if I fuck up I offer 50 % or free services depending on how bad the mistake is and how upset the guy is. Now I read on the other board about an escort who charges a fee if a client cancels on her 24 hours! Wow. I think she charges him for the entire session! A guy who saw her asked what everyone thought about her cancelling on him at the last min. And should he be compensated somehow (given a discounted session) and all the escorts said no. Here I am concerned about not sending pics earlier, I'm offering him a free session, and that's not compensation enough? I don't get it. Is he right and I'm not viewing this situation objectively? But I don't know any escort, especially on backpage, who'd give a rats ass over how they've inconvenienced you. Geeze. Ok, rant over. I would like to think I'm not a bad escort, but if this is a biggie mistake I again apologize for the error and sorry he won't give me a chance. Not like I need the money, I just like to treat people well and also want them to be satisfied. Any pms or comments here would be appreciated. Also can you all suggest how I can make it up to him. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If it would make you feel any better, you could give me the free session that he doesn't seem to want.

[QUOTE=SMS54;2097770]If it would make you feel any better, you could give me the free session that he doesn't seem to want.[/QUOTE]Yeah me too!

There's no pleasing some people. He probably saved you alot of aggravation by not accepting your offer. (Accommodate, 2 Cs & 2 Ms).

Deb,

You sell and you provide the service you sell. You seem to have your shit together better than a lot of SP's, for sure. All that said, there is something you need to learn about the sales part of your business. Are you ready? What I am about to share salesmen pay thousands to hear. So, this is a vital part of selling. Here it is. A pearl of wisdom that you should live by. So:

There is nothing wrong with losing a sale but there is everything wrong with not knowing why you lost the sale.

That's it. Words to live by. Words that will help you sleep at night. So, this guy was an asshole, but that is not why you lost the sale. This guy was unreasonable but that is not why you lost the sale. No, you lost the sale because he had an expectation of service and you disappointed him. Period. Plain and simple. Nice try for a save by apologizing and offering the discount but, frankly, at that point it didn't matter because you had already lost the sale and he had already made a decision to go a different direction. Truth is, there is nothing wrong in all of that. I think you are a fine lady and genuinely try to offer a great service at a reasonable price. But you suck at the sales part because you take it too personally. That is not a bad trait, but it is something you need to know about yourself and get past it.

In this guy's defense two days had past and I guarantee he went somewhere else. He hadn't thought about you since you didn't send the pics so when you finally sent the pics he had probably already made a date with another SP and enjoyed the fuck. Now, I am a bit surprised he didn't take the free offer. Damn. That is self control on his part. What guy would pass up a free fuck? Oh, well, his choice at that point.

I had a SP that I called in a Southern city about a month ago that when I asked what was on the menu she led with, "I normally get 200 but can do it for 150 for one pop and if you want two pops that is 180." And then she mumbled some more. Awful sales technique, for sure. But most SP's are have awful sales technique. And if they are tweakers it goes down hill even more.

So, you fucked up and lost the sale. It is that simple. You committed to something and did not deliver. Get over it. If you want to make sales then don't fuck up. Come up with some way that reminds you to follow through on the things you commit to do for your clients and potential clients. Some people make lists. Some people follow their Daytimer rules. But most sales people fuck up and forget and loose sales and then don't learn the lessons.

C3.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2097403]A2 I believe you said we can vent on here? Ugg. If so, here it goes. A potential new client made an appointment with me, not an exact time, but a sometime Monday morning appointment to see me. We've been pming up and back and I really like him. He asked me one time only, on Saturday at 8 pm to email recent pics of myself to him. I had forgotten to send them, but remembered 9 am this morning. The same time I was sending the pics, he pmed me on here telling me he's upset with me and I'm showing what my character is like but not sending the pics like he asked. He said something like "I made other plans, and as far as seeing you, thanks, but no thanks." So I emailed him back profusely apologizing for forgetting to send the pics earlier and offered him 50 % off the appointment. I sent him another email telling him that the money doesn't matter, so he can name his price. I didn't hear from him, figuring he must be really upset, I told him I"the see him for free. He sent me an email just recently telling me how upset he is with me, that I'm irresponsible and prefer posting on this board than tending to my responsibilities. I only posted once after 8 pm on Saturday when he requested the pics. Well I don't know what you all know about escorts businesses, but we get a shit load of calls, emails texts to wade through. I try my best to try to accomodate (can't' spell this damn word) everyone and if I fuck up I offer 50 % or free services depending on how bad the mistake is and how upset the guy is. Now I read on the other board about an escort who charges a fee if a client cancels on her 24 hours! Wow. I think she charges him for the entire session! A guy who saw her asked what everyone thought about her cancelling on him at the last min. And should he be compensated somehow (given a discounted session) and all the escorts said no. Here I am concerned about not sending pics earlier, I'm offering him a free session, and that's not compensation enough? I don't get it. Is he right and I'm not viewing this situation objectively? But I don't know any escort, especially on backpage, who'd give a rats ass over how they've inconvenienced you. Geeze. Ok, rant over. I would like to think I'm not a bad escort, but if this is a biggie mistake I again apologize for the error and sorry he won't give me a chance. Not like I need the money, I just like to treat people well and also want them to be satisfied. Any pms or comments here would be appreciated. Also can you all suggest how I can make it up to him. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I didn't mind losing the sale. Actually he never had to see me again and pay me. I was going to see him for free and that would have been that. Yes I fucked up big time. I just wish he had accepted my apology the first time. He didn't even need to accept the free session, but he continued to berate me. But you do have a point. I fucked up and I shouldn't have. I don't know why the heck I didn't send the pics right away. I guess this business is a bit overwhelming with the volume calls I get and I could use an assistant. Otherwise I'll just have to remember to write everything down and do everything right away.

The most difficult part of this service is that some guys don't follow through and stand me up. Thank god it hasn't been happening lately. Then I have to juggle and try to fill that spot. What I do is have a running list. I ask the guys who want the same spot if I can call them back if the first guy blows me off. The volume is intense. If you guys want to know why escorts don't answer their phones they are either on the other line or in the middle of a session. And if you want to know why they can get away with giving bad service and still stay in business, now you know. Business just doesn't dry up no matter what! The only time I didn't do well was in Atlantic City. A lot of the guys are drunk and extremely undependable. So since there are so many guys out there seeking services these crappy escorts have the luxury act like brats and treat you badly. I'd never do that, because I would't feel good about myself. For the life of me, I can't understand why people are cruel to others just because they have the opportunity and can do so.

I do hate when guys get pissed off at me for whatever reason and raise their voices. It's hard not to take it personally. Funny thing is when I worked with chronically mentally ill adults just getting out of the hospital that was more intense. It was downright dangerous sometime. I had someone come after me with a baseball bat, and another try to hit me over the head with a cast iron skillet. I can handle the mentally ill yelling at me, calling me names and attempting to assault me, because I know they have a mental illness. But when it comes from people who are supposed to be normal and they berate me, it's hard to let it slide.

I hate to say no to anyone who wants to see me and I could work around the clock if I wanted to, but I don't. I even get phone calls in the middle of the night, like 3 am. So I just turn my phone off. I guess I just wanted him to say "I accept your apology. I understand you get a lot of calls, but I don't want to take a chance with you again, even for free, because you made a mistake and left me hanging" but he continued to berate me. Ugg. Oh well. It's a real challenge to be that organized, but I'll try harder to be and if I flub up again and someone is that pissed off at me I'll just try to let it go. I have the conflict management skills at my disposal, but sometimes I forget to use them when I'm pissed. When some of the guys are angry at me it's like if your significant other was yelling and nagging you about a mistake you made and nothing you say or do can calm her down. She just continues on with the berating. That's so hard not to take personally. It gets me fuming.

If I get weary of the volume of calls I'll have to hire an assistant. That'll be quite the chore to find someone good. It's a challenge to even find a decent housekeeper. And I've paid quite a bit for shoddy services and we're still in the midst of a recession! The one I just hired is awesome! But if he moves on for some reason or gets too comfortable and starts doing a lousy job I'll ask you guys if you know anyone thorough and dependable. And no worries, they don't have to do windows.

[QUOTE=DomeSeeker;2097944][URL]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-italian-busty-hottie-bootylicious-pics-all-me-29/18829607[/URL]

Anything you brothers can share on this one? She has been posting for a year, pictures updated a lot and smoking hot imo. But at times I don't trust ones that show face. Legit?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EugeneWest;2098083]Never saw her, but haven reading about her for years. As best I can tell she is legit. Hosts at her home. Pretty good reviews I've read.. Just never made it down there to see her.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Longjblues;2098183]She is legit. Face shots are accurate. Have not seen her for some time (2 yrs?) But at the time I thought she was better looking than the pics suggest.

She has extensive profile and reviews (51, dating back to 2001) on the oThER board and maybe 1 or 2 on adult fax place. Just google the tel number without "1-.

I no longer have access as VIP to the reviews, but I think she averages out to 7.5 in appearance and 7.5 on performance, with a reasonable rate and menu. Not sure, but I think that she satisfies the GFE definition.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PerfectMan;2098191]According to her reviews on the other sire she averages a 7/7.

She's been doing this since 2001.

Her Pics are old.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpermSac;2098193]She has many reviews and you will find that she is a few years older than what is posted. NR puts her at 34.

You will find many Escorts who aren't afraid to show their faces. Afterall you are only paying for their company.[/QUOTE]Sperm, yet another Mongeresque style post adding more armchair reviewing of a girl you've apparently never seen. LJB actually saw this girl and gave a fairly comprehensive report including commenting on her looks. Others added pertinent TER scores. The big 500 post milestone is fast approaching. Maybe you are racing toward it in hopes that you will be receiving a bonus for reaching 500 in less than a year. If the post didn't contain your name and I just read the body of it I would have concluded it was MongerExpert. There is no rule stating you can't post on everything but this certainly seems like overkill.

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2098248]Sperm, yet another Mongeresque style post adding more armchair reviewing of a girl you've apparently never seen. LJB actually saw this girl and gave a fairly comprehensive report including commenting on her looks. Others added pertinent TER scores. The big 500 post milestone is fast approaching. Maybe you are racing toward it in hopes that you will be receiving a bonus for reaching 500 in less than a year. If the post didn't contain your name and I just read the body of it I would have concluded it was MongerExpert. There is no rule stating you can't post on everything but this certainly seems like overkill.[/QUOTE]The question was asked and responded to. "Anything you brothers can share on this one?

You're like a pimple on ones ass. Useless. I never seen someone so obsessed over a number.

[QUOTE=SpermSac;2098290]The question was asked and responded to. "Anything you brothers can share on this one?

You're like a pimple on ones ass. Useless. I never seen someone so obsessed over a number.[/QUOTE]Hey Sperm breath don't you have anything better to do than continue to add posts without having first hand knowledge of the provider? Why are you so obsessed with responding to every post? I know it must be boring around the retirement community but maybe you should check the bulletin board to see when the next quilting course starts. Maybe you should only post or respond to posts where you have first hand info about the provider. Now crawl back under your rock you want to be know it all.
PS I have the boys at Guinness book of records checking to see if your arrival at 500 in less than a year is a record.

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2098495]Hey Sperm breath don't you have anything better to do than continue to add posts without having first hand knowledge of the provider? Why are you so obsessed with responding to every post? I know it must be boring around the retirement community but maybe you should check the bulletin board to see when the next quilting course starts. Maybe you should only post or respond to posts where you have first hand info about the provider. Now crawl back under your rock you want to be know it all.
PS I have the boys at Guinness book of records checking to see if your arrival at 500 in less than a year is a record.[/QUOTE]Another one obsessed over numbers. Damn does that mean I get a I Give A Fuck pin when I hit a certain number?

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2098495]Hey Sperm breath don't you have anything better to do than continue to add posts without having first hand knowledge of the provider? Why are you so obsessed with responding to every post? I know it must be boring around the retirement community but maybe you should check the bulletin board to see when the next quilting course starts. Maybe you should only post or respond to posts where you have first hand info about the provider. Now crawl back under your rock you want to be know it all.
PS I have the boys at Guinness book of records checking to see if your arrival at 500 in less than a year is a record.[/QUOTE]I'm so glad that numbers irritate the piss out of you and a few others.

Oh wait! Didn't you just brag about hitting 500 not long ago?

I'll make sure that you stay ahead of me in the numbers game. I'd hate to see you have nothing to rant about.

Fever, Just place the idiot on IGNORE and move on. We had some scum doing the same shit (and worse) down in RI and it really ruined the boards. Quite a few seniors quit posting and now our boards are a shadow of what they used to be. Then the scum just crawled back into the woodwork and I'm sure are biding their times to cause more shit. There are going to be useless trolls and etc no matter what you do.

If there's something you can report on him do so, if not IGNORE HIS STUPID ASS and move on. I rarely visit up here but even I know that he's full of shit and I wouldn't listen to a single thing he/she/it says. We have just as many assholes down our way and all they want is ATTENTION! The best you can do is ignore them, the real mongers know whom they can trust or not. You know you're right, be the bigger man and move on. It's JUST NOT WORTH IT!

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2098495]Hey Sperm breath don't you have anything better to do than continue to add posts without having first hand knowledge of the provider? Why are you so obsessed with responding to every post? I know it must be boring around the retirement community but maybe you should check the bulletin board to see when the next quilting course starts. Maybe you should only post or respond to posts where you have first hand info about the provider. Now crawl back under your rock you want to be know it all.
PS I have the boys at Guinness book of records checking to see if your arrival at 500 in less than a year is a record.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;2098570]Fever, Just place the idiot on IGNORE and move on. We had some scum doing the same shit (and worse) down in RI and it really ruined the boards. Quite a few seniors quit posting and now our boards are a shadow of what they used to be. Then the scum just crawled back into the woodwork and I'm sure are biding their times to cause more shit. There are going to be useless trolls and etc no matter what you do.[/QUOTE]You know HaH anyone of those guys that wants to get with the program would be more than welcomed to come back. I'm always very thankful for the guys that are involved with the board that report posts at the beginning of a new douchebags career so I can squash them.

What happened down in RI was some douche showed up and EVERYBODY engaged him. By the time I showed up to look at it, the fucking place was a free fire zone. I had to shut everything down. Then when I gave them a place where they could post what they wanted they still kept bitching. I tried to work with them for MONTHS and all they did was complain, I finally just got sick of it and did what Jax suggested.

With the help of Seniors such as yourself, that have rediscovered what the forum is about, namely PUSSY, RI will come back. You watch and see.

In any event, I'd like to give a public tip o the hat to you here for passing on the only logical thing to do with guys who you don't like. Fucking wash your hands of them and ignore them. Anybody who doesn't is admitting that they enjoy the argument more than the pussy.

Mis dos centavos.

A2.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj3ka-tzdew[/url] for one thing, with the stings in the video, the cops go through a lot of trouble setting them up in order to arrest a guy who's simply trying to get laid. i don't know if it's this video or somewhere else i read, where mongers are told something along the lines of "what you are doing is wrong. why can't you meet a woman the normal way. ask them out and take them on a date" lol. what right does anyone have to tell a guy how he ought to meet women? geeze. another thing i noticed in the video is that they use, what was it, four cops? to arrest one guy, again, for simply trying to get laid. do they need four cops to arrest one guy? really? what an easy job that is! it certainly doesn't look dangerous. and the one cop on the far right, am i seeing this correctly? he's pointing a gun at each guy that's being arrested? i haven't seen any mongers in the video with weapons on them. do any of these guys pose a threat to the cops? i also wonder if all four of the cops meet women the so called "normal way" i didn't know there was only one normal way to meet women. i'd also like to ask le and members of all of the abolitionist groups who claim that all sex worker's are victims and all are being trafficked, even those where no force is involved. and if they are considered victims, why arrest them in the first place? also, and i really love (sarcasm) this reasoning used to keep sex work criminalized. prostitution leads to drug use and other crimes. lol. yes, there are lots of escorts who have substance abuse issues, but i highly doubt escorting is the cause. most of them were probably drug addicts in the first place and chose prostitution, because it's an easy way to make lots of money to support their habits. it's all about making an act a crime based on morality. definitely arrest the traffickers, anyone who forces women or lures **** girls into prostitution. but why arrest all the consenting adults and call it human trafficking too? it makes no sense to me. it kind of reminds me of some of the same reasons the govt. uses in some states to keep the use of marijuana a crime. it's a gateway drug and it leads to harder drug use and other crimes. considering that marijuana is decriminalized in most if not all states by now (i think you can use it for certain medical conditions, but are fined if smoked for pleasure) and legal in washington state and colorado i guess that rational was wrong. and if prostitution is a horrific crime supposedly leading to substance abuse and other crimes has anyone ever thought of checking out what prostitution is like in the nevada desert? are any of these sex workers drug abusers? is prostitution leading to other crimes there? why isn't prostitution in nevada called human trafficking too? and also if prostitution is considered such a serious crime elsewhere why is it legal in nevada in the first place?