"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6287374]A couple of guys have reached out about taking trips with girls & meeting girls from other countries off seeking. I've done this I met a girl from Russia & Romania, flew them into Spain when I was on vacation there for 3 & 4 days, both times I've paid right at $1 k. I had vetted both by doing a video chat on what's app before I sent them the plane fare. I'm headed back to Spain for 3 weeks this summer, & have been chatting with a couple of girls on a website called travelgirls kinda of like seeking but girls who are looking for guys to pay for their travel & some spending cash. Very much UTR types mostly who want to get wined & dined on a nice vacation. Also quite a few of them want to visit the US so if your looking for a girl on your arm while vacationing this may be a good site for you.

[URL]https://www.travelgirls.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting, will give this a try.

Seeking as a sister site called [URL]MissTravel.com[/URL] which is similar premise. I used it for a while and while I met one gorgeous woman my own age where we had some fun weekends together, otherwise it was a complete failure.

My phone works fine but 3 days ago out of the blue I get this error message. I have reset password and tried a vpn. No answer from their support of course.

[QUOTE=AmpFanatl;6287715]I am not in my 20's or 30's anymore and have the same mindset going into these interactions. Previously it was mostly looks, now it's what I say / do. Ironically I get more 18-22 kitty in my 40's than I ever did in my 20's, and more frequent.[/QUOTE]I'm 47 and maybe look 42. I've given up on the 18-21 group but I had some great times with them when I was 42. They are the very best if you can land them, but I'm just too old now to deal with all the randomness and flakiness from that age group.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6288276]I'm 47 and maybe look 42. I've given up on the 18-21 group but I had some great times with them when I was 42. They are the very best if you can land them, but I'm just too old now to deal with all the randomness and flakiness from that age group.[/QUOTE]I am 50 and only recently decided to dabble in this age range. A lot of flakiness for sure and I don't get as many responses with the bigger age gap, but damn it's worth it when you pull it off. My current one steady SB just turned 21 and is amazing.

Wondering if anyone has any experience with this woman. We have talked and texted. She is definitely a woman I am interested in. She wants up front babysitter money and this is something I don't do. Most likely a scam but just wondering if anyone has met her yet. If so then I may be willing to take the plunge.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e86e525f-b14c-4438-bd38-f1b6e77998a5[/URL]

May the pussy be with you.

SD.

The phone numbers are starting to roll in, as I suspected things were just really slow during the holidays. I have a meet setup Tuesday with a spry 23 year old who has given very positive vibes so far so flake percentage is lower than normal. Have a few other phone number leads. The quality is pretty good so far and many have favorited me / messaged me first - all in the 20's range.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6288447]The phone numbers are starting to roll in, as I suspected things were just really slow during the holidays. I have a meet setup Tuesday with a spry 23 year old who has given very positive vibes so far so flake percentage is lower than normal. Have a few other phone number leads. The quality is pretty good so far and many have favorited me / messaged me first - all in the 20's range.[/QUOTE]Do you have public profile pic? Just curious how you got favorites and messages first. I keep my profile pic private and no pics on public profile. So I don't get any hits until I reach out to them.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6288301]I am 50 and only recently decided to dabble in this age range. A lot of flakiness for sure and I don't get as many responses with the bigger age gap, but damn it's worth it when you pull it off. My current one steady SB just turned 21 and is amazing.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's awesome. Well done!

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6288525]Do you have public profile pic? Just curious how you got favorites and messages first. I keep my profile pic private and no pics on public profile. So I don't get any hits until I reach out to them.[/QUOTE]I stay private too, and don't have a public pic just privates. I have gone public a few times but I find 99% of the messages you then get are just scammers.

I will be honest I do have a couple of fake SB accounts just to check out the competition from time to time and it amazes me dudes that put up real pics in public on seeking.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6288591]I stay private too, and don't have a public pic just privates. I have gone public a few times but I find 99% of the messages you then get are just scammers.

I will be honest I do have a couple of fake SB accounts just to check out the competition from time to time and it amazes me dudes that put up real pics in public on seeking.[/QUOTE]I have found myself doing the same, seeing what our competition is using in their profiles.

Dude, I do reverse image searches on a few of them randomly. It's absolutely crazy how many men used their professional head shots from interviews, linkedin etc. Able to find their real name, and employment with a couple clicks. It just blows my mind.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6286697]I started in my mid-30's. I'm no multimillionare but I'm debt free and own my own home, but I don't think net worth is actually as important as seeking thinks it is. For me, Tinder and other online dating apps suck and have incredibly low success since I'm not an attractive guy (the Tinder reddit posts the first 2 rules of Tinder: 1) Be attractive and 2) Don't be unattractive LOL). I've been doing this a little over a year now and have scored a ton, found some really great borderline relationships, and much much prefer this to dealing with escorts.

Regarding not bringing up the arrangement, I've had it happen a few times, but it's very rare. The girl has to either 1) seriously like you over text and / or 2) find talking donation awkward and hopes you'll bring it up. During my last active sub back in Sept I banged out a cute kinky red head co-ed who just hated talking about it and so did not, but after we finished I gave her what I thought was fair (my standard 200 since I picked up a hotel) and she pouted, said she normally gets 400. I gave her an extra 50 and she left without any fuss, but later blocked me. So that's the risk you take. On the other hand I did bang out a 19 year old near the beginning of my sugaring who was just happy to go out on a date that didn't involve fast food, and didn't give a rats ass about $. So if you don't bring up the arrangement, it can go either way.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. And I'm the same, not attractive, average looks and a little overweight.

Started working before I was a teenager so never got any female attention and don't have the gift of gab so full on uphill climb for me, but even the last few days since finding this forum, I've noticed my text game improve and rate of responses drastically go up!

Had a Latin / Korean baddie on the hook and invited me out without any mention of money or arrangement but work ducked me and lost her!

Have to give you all props! The info and advice you generously share definitely works.

Just to put a finer point on this, I presume what you guys are referring to is whether your profile is hidden from search. I. e. Private. Yes, I do the same. Women cannot search to find me cold. I must go to their profile for them to see mine. This is the way to go I think, for someone w / a SO. For most people, too, for the reason mentioned by another poster. If you can be found, you get a huge # of messages from outside the US, indeed likely scammers.

About the photos, I found photos of someone not too famous who I've been told I look like. I doctored all of them to cut off about mid-face. It looks like they could be my real photos, just that I am concerned about my privacy. I have several, one public one, and a few private photos, and then opening up "my" private is one way to communicate interest to a POT in between my paid memberships. I get likes and even messages from that, sometimes they even open up their own private photos, presumably based on reading my pretty complete profile. The only thing I still can't really get when I am not paid up is their contact info. Though I did have a recent situation, I had sent my burner # to a POT the last time I was on but I guess I missed her. She got back on, I happened to view her profile at the same time, and my number was there. So she texted me and we started chatting, she shared full photos that way (her photos on the site had the face blanked out). No doubt she is real, and I am totally good w / the fact that she is a little careful.

Hey folks, just wanted to see if anyone has spoken with Venus [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ad11345-5bd4-467b-935e-6c16d66533d5[/URL] and got anywhere. I like her a look (I'm a sucker for tattood alt / goth girls) and it looks like one of her pics is in a strip club locker room, which means I figure one of you guys has filled her up at least once. What was the damage and how was she?

We had a very good chat on the site. Found out she lives in south fla. She never offered why she is on an Atlanta SA board. Maybe she was just blowing me off. Who knows. If you find out is she really is in Atlanta it would be good to know.

May the pussy be with you.

SD.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6289292]Hey folks, just wanted to see if anyone has spoken with Venus [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ad11345-5bd4-467b-935e-6c16d66533d5[/URL] and got anywhere. I like her a look (I'm a sucker for tattood alt / goth girls) and it looks like one of her pics is in a strip club locker room, which means I figure one of you guys has filled her up at least once. What was the damage and how was she?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6288525]Do you have public profile pic? Just curious how you got favorites and messages first. I keep my profile pic private and no pics on public profile. So I don't get any hits until I reach out to them.[/QUOTE]Yeah I make it public, there's always a poker edge if they make the first move. I only pay attention to the ones that are local, and many are scammers / pros. I had one recently that seemed legit, went to text and she started the picture selling scamming nonsense. Immediately blocked her number / profile. I still find messaging first having the highest success rate if they respond back.

There are girls who keep their profiles hidden from public search and you potentially will miss them if they can't find you. I don't have a SO or care much about being hidden.

I only run 30 day subscriptions so I'm not "public facing" for very long.