Printable View
[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2647722]Maybe just providing the link to the BP ad would be acceptable.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there is a problem with these guys who all have this same tattoo. "415". I have no idea what that signifies, I can only speculate. But yeah, under tipping, coming in very drunk, and removing the condom mid session. Acting like they own the place, claiming, "hey, we can get this place shut down" when a girl complains.
[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2647701]I kind of wish this was allowed. However, I have a feeling this post will get removed by admin shortly. In my personal opinion, any guy who robs a girl should be outed. If not here, then at least on a network so other AMP mamasans can be on the look out to deny them service.
Lately, there has also be a problem with guys taking the condom off mid session when the girl is turned around and going in BB without the girl knowing. I wish there was a way for the AMPs to communicate about who these guys are so that they can be universally denied service. But, I think that is up to the AMP owners and mamasans being willing to communicate with each other. I doubt Admin will allow these forums to be used for that purpose.[/QUOTE]Here's an idea. If enough of us save this picture onto our desktop then print a copy of it and distribute around the AMPs he will get noticed very quickly and banned. I frequent AMPs weekly. I will print his picture, take it to kinkos and print about 50 copies then distribute it to all the ms and providers at the parlors. If 5 of you do the same including me that will be about 300 copies circulating around a dozen AMPs. Hahahahah, sucks to be you dude.
[QUOTE=Gogospa;2647692]This customer was provided service and then stole girls money.[/QUOTE]All the AMPs read this forum. I'm sure they'll be waiting for him.
Anyone try this one? Searched and no reviews.
[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2647735]Yeah, there is a problem with these guys who all have this same tattoo. "415". I have no idea what that signifies, I can only speculate. But yeah, under tipping, coming in very drunk, and removing the condom mid session. Acting like they own the place, claiming, "hey, we can get this place shut down" when a girl complains.[/QUOTE]I don't know if this is the meaning of this particular tat, but 415 is the San Francisco area code.
[QUOTE=Gogospa;2647692]This customer was provided service and then stole girls money.[/QUOTE]Must have been like a "Dine and dash". Never seen a girl bring a purse full o cash in room. He on blast now. No mo fo you! I hope other establishments see this post!
[QUOTE=SlappinBellies;2647782]Here's an idea. If enough of us save this picture onto our desktop then print a copy of it and distribute around the AMPs he will get noticed very quickly and banned. I frequent AMPs weekly. I will print his picture, take it to kinkos and print about 50 copies then distribute it to all the ms and providers at the parlors. If 5 of you do the same including me that will be about 300 copies circulating around a dozen AMPs. Hahahahah, sucks to be you dude.[/QUOTE]Gogo mama posted a nice clear pic. The other AMPs surely have it already.
[QUOTE=VMan808;2647816]Anyone try this one? Searched and no reviews.[/QUOTE]If you're referring to Chinese Lucy, she is new as an indie but worked in Thai places. Legit. Massage skills not as good as Thai. Nice, decent girl.
It's not a massage parlor (AMP, sex house, etc) so she would belong in the MT or Legit threads.
[QUOTE=HMobius;2648235]Gogo mama posted a nice clear pic. The other AMPs surely have it already.[/QUOTE]In California, they have bookers who share info on mongers and those who are no worthy of time. This is a case that should be shared between the AMP mamas.
These dickless jerks have been around long as I can remember. It's cash business, and below the radar, so they think they can get away. Photos much more compelling now, so kudos. Post and screen all AMPs.
Not sure why in past AMPs did not post photos. We all know every AMP has cameras.
Of course, somebody knows him. Somebody already shared his name.
If 415 report is true, it's a much bigger problem than AMPs.
[QUOTE=HMobius;2648235]Gogo mama posted a nice clear pic. The other AMPs surely have it already.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlappinBellies;2647782]Here's an idea. If enough of us save this picture onto our desktop then print a copy of it and distribute around the AMPs he will get noticed very quickly and banned. I frequent AMPs weekly. I will print his picture, take it to kinkos and print about 50 copies then distribute it to all the ms and providers at the parlors. If 5 of you do the same including me that will be about 300 copies circulating around a dozen AMPs. Hahahahah, sucks to be you dude.[/QUOTE]I saved the photo. I'm heading to Tokyo Spa tonight and will give it to mama.
How about we all post it to Craigslist Rant and Raves? I will.
[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2647735]Yeah, there is a problem with these guys who all have this same tattoo. "415". I have no idea what that signifies, I can only speculate. But yeah, under tipping, coming in very drunk, and removing the condom mid session. Acting like they own the place, claiming, "hey, we can get this place shut down" when a girl complains.[/QUOTE]Are they Kumi gang? Kumi is a predominately black prison gang that uses 415 as a symbol.
415 is the area code for California.
[QUOTE=DeepShot;2648296]These dickless jerks have been around long as I can remember. It's cash business, and below the radar, so they think they can get away. Photos much more compelling now, so kudos. Post and screen all AMPs.
Not sure why in past AMPs did not post photos. We all know every AMP has cameras.
Of course, somebody knows him. Somebody already shared his name.
If 415 report is true, it's a much bigger problem than AMPs.[/QUOTE]Image quality much better now, unlike old "bank photo'-quality cameras.
Other crooks likely wore some sort of cap or hoodie, shades, nondescript clothing and kept their head down or away from the camera, so that no useful image was captured. This guy did the opposite; even looked right up at the camera. The only thing he didn't do was smile.
In retrospect to Spartacus' post, I remember Yoyo had good lockers for her girls at CC MF. The girls would dump their cash in their locker right after each customer. MS post did not specify if the money was forcibly taken from the girl. His fingerprints would have been on the knobs that unlock and open the screen door on his way out.
[QUOTE=HiPickle;2648179]Must have been like a "Dine and dash". Never seen a girl bring a purse full o cash in room. He on blast now. No mo fo you! I hope other establishments see this post![/QUOTE]Isn't it the responsibility of the mamas to protect their girls? You can't get out of these places without going past a number of people. Plus the doors are locked. That's why we go AMP instead of escort services. It's a safe environment for both the provider and client. That's why Empire was popular with the providers. Ivy worked them hard, but also kept them safe.
I always warn the girls I see, keep your money safe and don't let it out of your sight. Plenty of thieves out there.
[QUOTE=TunaHuntah;2648415]415 is the area code for California.[/QUOTE]LOL there are around 38 area codes in California. But anyway, where did 415 come into play I didn't see it on that pic.
[QUOTE=HMobius;2648602]Image quality much better now, unlike old "bank photo'-quality cameras.[/QUOTE]Most of the AMPs have infrared led cameras at the front entrance and can record 720p HD or 1080p full HD video.
[QUOTE=Gogospa;2647692]This customer was provided service and then stole girls money.[/QUOTE]I think what GoGo Spa did by posting this customers face (crook) online is a good thing. I think every AMP should post this picture on the wall of their establishments. Like the Post Office posting Americas Most Wanted Criminals at large.
Only 30% of their customers reads or knows about usasexguide reviews.
[QUOTE=HawaiiBoy09;2647554]If I'm not mistaken, Sugar at Happiness meets that description.[/QUOTE]I saw Sugar at Happiness two Saturdays ago and although she did provide BBBJ, there was no BBFS. She is a bit quirky, but service is definitely in the 8 - 9 range.
Since there's so many area codes in California, people usually identify themselves by area code, especially if they're in a gang (or if they want to seem like they're in one). If you're into hiphop you hear the area codes all the time; or if you live there you drop them ironically.
415 - San Francisco (as it was mentioned).
310 - West LA.
213 - Downtown LA.
818- San Fernando Valley.
[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2647848]I don't know if this is the meaning of this particular tat, but 415 is the San Francisco area code.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiPickle;2648605]LOL there are around 38 area codes in California. But anyway, where did 415 come into play I didn't see it on that pic.[/QUOTE]Maybe LS had inside info on the guy from ms or the girl.
[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2648603]Isn't it the responsibility of the mamas to protect their girls? You can't get out of these places without going past a number of people. Plus the doors are locked. That's why we go AMP instead of escort services. It's a safe environment for both the provider and client. That's why Empire was popular with the providers. Ivy worked them hard, but also kept them safe.
I always warn the girls I see, keep your money safe and don't let it out of your sight. Plenty of thieves out there.[/QUOTE]I was talk with another customer when happen. Try to catch him but he running to fast. Exit doors can not be locked by law. Door come in is always locked. So nobody can come inside. Not girl or mama fault, just bad customer. Very FAST customer. Mama Lulu.
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;2648812]Since there's so many area codes in California, people usually identify themselves by area code, especially if they're in a gang (or if they want to seem like they're in one). If you're into hiphop you hear the area codes all the time; or if you live there you drop them ironically.
415 - San Francisco (as it was mentioned).
310 - West LA.
213 - Downtown LA.
818- San Fernando Valley.[/QUOTE]Let us not forget 510, East Bay all day baby!
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;2648812]Since there's so many area codes in California, people usually identify themselves by area code, especially if they're in a gang (or if they want to seem like they're in one). If you're into hiphop you hear the area codes all the time; or if you live there you drop them ironically.
415 - San Francisco (as it was mentioned).
310 - West LA.
213 - Downtown LA.
818- San Fernando Valley.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the most obvious reference that comes up from a routine Google search is the black prison gang that another member mentioned, 415 Kumi (apparently Swahili for 10,4+1+5) However, based on what I read, they only recruit African Americans and originated in San Francisco.
Both of the trouble makers, as they were described to me, were Asian, of the same particular ethnic background. Both were young, estimated around age 30 and each had a 415 tattoo. One of them was described as having a gothic appearance, with large black earrings. Whoever he was, he complained incessantly about the condom, before taking it off and going bareback without the girl's consent. I think he would stand out. Bottom line, if you have a gothic looking guy with a 415 tattoo show up, be careful.
This is not related to the guy stealing from GoGo Spa.
Edit: I don't know if it's helpful or harmful to post stuff like this, when what I'm relaying is now a 2nd hand account. I've heard of two separate occurances over the past week at different AMPs where johns took the condom off mid stream and came inside a normally CFS young girl without her consent. As well as the under tipping bullshit. It boils my blood that some guys think they can treat women like this without repercussions.
[QUOTE=HiPickle;2648179]Must have been like a "Dine and dash". Never seen a girl bring a purse full o cash in room. He on blast now. No mo fo you! I hope other establishments see this post![/QUOTE]This guy took the cash he gave provider when she went to get clean towel for him and ran out door. Lucky for provider. Mama.
[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2648836]Yeah, the most obvious reference that comes up from a routine Google search is the black prison gang that another member mentioned, 415 Kumi (apparently Swahili for 10,4+1+5) However, based on what I read, they only recruit African Americans and originated in San Francisco.
Both of the trouble makers, as they were described to me, were Asian, of the same particular ethnic background. Both were young, estimated around age 30 and each had a 415 tattoo. One of them was described as having a gothic appearance, with large black earrings. Whoever he was, he complained incessantly about the condom, before taking it off and going bareback without the girl's consent. I think he would stand out. Bottom line, if you have a gothic looking guy with a 415 tattoo show up, be careful.
This is not related to the guy stealing from GoGo Spa.
Edit: I don't know if it's helpful or harmful to post stuff like this, when what I'm relaying is now a 2nd hand account. I've heard of two separate occurances over the past week at different AMPs where johns took the condom off mid stream and came inside a normally CFS young girl without her consent. As well as the under tipping bullshit. It boils my blood that some guys think they can treat women like this without repercussions.[/QUOTE]These dickheads fuck it up for the rest of us. Either LEO or these thieves the girls will stop coming here if they have to worry about their safety or getting arrested.
They can do this type of work anywhere and not have to deal with this bullshit.
[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2648919]These dickheads fuck it up for the rest of us. Either LEO or these thieves the girls will stop coming here if they have to worry about their safety or getting arrested.
They can do this type of work anywhere and not have to deal with this bullshit.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be surprised if this happens in most any city on the mainland.
[QUOTE=CharlieSheen69;2648688]I think what GoGo Spa did by posting this customers face (crook) online is a good thing. I think every AMP should post this picture on the wall of their establishments. Like the Post Office posting Americas Most Wanted Criminals at large.
Only 30% of their customers reads or knows about usasexguide reviews.[/QUOTE]I agree, post inside right next to Mamasan so they can scan before allowing shit head to bang chicks and run.
[QUOTE=Gogospa;2647692]This customer was provided service and then stole girls money.[/QUOTE]That totally sucks that this guy had to be a douche and cheat you and your girls out of their hard earned cash. I wonder how many other locations save video of their customers (good and bad) coming and going? Seems like HPD could suppenia the tapes. Wouldn't that make for great news coverage.
[QUOTE=HawaiiBoy09;2647554]If I'm not mistaken, Sugar at Happiness meets that description.[/QUOTE]Right! Was Sugar, so now at Happiness it's CFS. So is Ginger / Lucky still offering BBFS? What about Lisa at Sakura? Didn't she offer BBFS at 321 and elsewhere? Lisa's pictures are pretty hot so if she is offering BBFS I wouldn't mind checking that out.
[QUOTE=Gogospa;2648823]I was talk with another customer when happen. Try to catch him but he running to fast. Exit doors can not be locked by law. Door come in is always locked. So nobody can come inside. Not girl or mama fault, just bad customer. Very FAST customer. Mama Lulu.[/QUOTE]There is a difference between locking and latching a door. If you put multiple latches on the door, so that it takes time for anyone to try to flee, it reduces the available accesses that a thief has to use.
Locking means that you have to use a key or passcode to open the door.
Hope this helps.
Is Lisa the Cherry / gold / Million at Kison or another Cherry. Is Jessica at Sakura the same Jessica at Kison? You can pm me if you want. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Enona1;2649398]Right! Was Sugar, so now at Happiness it's CFS. So is Ginger / Lucky still offering BBFS? What about Lisa at Sakura? Didn't she offer BBFS at 321 and elsewhere? Lisa's pictures are pretty hot so if she is offering BBFS I wouldn't mind checking that out.[/QUOTE]
Missed her again. Works 1 day then takes 3 days off. Sisi says it's because she doesn't need the money. WTF? The elusive butterfly. She won't let me come to her apartment even though she gave me an address. Says she lives with "other people". Plenty other hotties around so it's no big deal. And my go to girl Coco is gone until the end of November. Life sucks sometimes. LOL.
[QUOTE=LuvBigRax;2650671]Is Lisa the Cherry / gold / Million at Kison or another Cherry. Is Jessica at Sakura the same Jessica at Kison? You can pm me if you want. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Lisa is currently at Sakura and yes she did go by the name of Cherry while at Kison and other places. I don't know Jessica, you need to ask Lisa when you see her.
Just was there today and was satisfied as usual.
[QUOTE=GraveyAllOva;2649367]That totally sucks that this guy had to be a douche and cheat you and your girls out of their hard earned cash. I wonder how many other locations save video of their customers (good and bad) coming and going? Seems like HPD could suppenia the tapes. Wouldn't that make for great news coverage.[/QUOTE]They can subpoena all they want. What is it going to prove? Unless there were a murder or violent crime, its not going to make news coverage. Because the news channel isn't going to risk getting sued for anything less than a capital crime.
I was at Top Spa for a session when their new system went it. Its a very basic semi-pro system. The DVR is not a limitless recorder. The IR motion camera at the door senses someone in front of the door and snaps a picture. Any stills or video that these systems record will 'time-out'. When the cache is deleted is dependent on the settings. Recording in HD or even SD creates huge files. Every 30 min of HD recording by comparison is around 2 gb. I am willing to bet their system purges at least every 24 hours, maybe even after 12 hours.
The cameras are there so they can screen who is at the door primarily. To a lesser degree they are there just in case something really bad happens.
[QUOTE=Johnny14;2651307]Lisa is currently at Sakura and yes she did go by the name of Cherry while at Kison and other places. I don't know Jessica, you need to ask Lisa when you see her.
Just was there today and was satisfied as usual.[/QUOTE]So the question is still. Does she offer BBFS?
[QUOTE=Enona1;2651462]So the question is still. Does she offer BBFS?[/QUOTE]She does not "offer" it per se. She will have a condom set-up and standing by but you can probably get BBFS. The only sure way to answer your question is go do a session with her and see how she reacts with you in particular, as an individual.
I'm not saying she's YMMV but since she does get the rubber ready (in that sense, she "offers" CFS), your session may or may not vary from other mongers.
There are CFS girls who selectively give BBFS, and vice-versa.
Went a few months ago but not posting about the experience.
Just received the third text in 2 months from them. Nothing crazy, just an emoji. Never had this happen at ANY other spa. I don't know what database they have but angrily told them for the third time to stop contacting me.
Could have been th most amazing experience ever but not worth the lack of discretion.