"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Whatever you call them.

27-34 is my favorite place to play, especially if they are still single or divorced with no kids.

They are past the dopiness of being just out of (or in) college, have fucked enough to know what they like and how to do it fairly well, are still frustrated by most guys their age who are either non-committal or still not accomplished (in bed or work) and really understand what SA is and isn't.

Of course, I have yet to have the pleasure of anyone under 23 that was not a semi-pro, but my limited attempts to communicate with them have been a waste of time and effort.

I counted 8 pages on the front page today besides this one dedicated to SB's, and I know there are a few more. I have read several of them and have seen comments that this page is too much storytelling and not enough swapping of details. This is what got me started looking for someone on SA, and have had many great experiences because of it. I currently have a regular girl that I have been seeing for over two years and still look for new blood regularly. Thanks to all those who came before and the good info early in this thread. As for the stories, I find them entertaining and sometimes motivational. It has gotten harder to find the nuggets as SA has become more mainstream and GPS abounds, but it has been a great ride so far!

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2886347]Aw yes the "I want to get paid to go on a date" girl. Those dumb women don't last too long on the SD sites. Talk about GPS!! I sometimes wonder if they are even.

Taking this seriously. Or they must think men are really that stupid. I've been there man.[/QUOTE]It isn't so much GPS with many of these women but a failure to distinguish the difference between SD sites and the WYP site. Of course the owner does nothing to dissuade such notions as her cross advertises and pushes each group to the other.

There must enough dumb or desperate enough guys out there and the WYP site keeps going!

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2887078]It isn't so much GPS with many of these women but a failure to distinguish the difference between SD sites and the WYP site. Of course the owner does nothing to dissuade such notions as her cross advertises and pushes each group to the other.

There must enough dumb or desperate enough guys out there and the WYP site keeps going![/QUOTE]There will always be the unicorns that are spoiling it, but it could be simppply what the SBs are reading or getting information from.

On a recent blog from SA, "or gift her a few grand on a Saks card and see what she picks. ".

If they SBs are getting information like this, they will start to form there opinion and develop the mentality that they are worhth it.

And that some SBs are getting this.

While it may or may not be true, we are infact the ones that keep the fire lit.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2886771]First -- explaining why you get a hotel when your license address is down the street. "I moved to (town 3 hours away) six months ago and sold my house, but stil have business in town". In fact, you should contact the GM and let them know your "situation" and get clearance for early check ins so you can "Shower" up before your business meetings. You might even get a rate!

Second -- don't have the young hottie come in with you. Ask for two keys at check in "better give me two, I always lose one. ". Either send her in first, then you follow after making a phone call or whatever (allows her to use the can, change into sexy attire) then you follow. Or vice versa.

Third -- don't check out. They will auto check you out the next AM. So they don't know when you left and since the bed is a mess, you just may have stayed the night.

PLUS you have the room until 11 AM the next AM. I've been known to pull a PM AM double header on my home field since I can't ever do a sleepover.[/QUOTE]I thought about doing the "I've got a temporary situation at home I need to vacate" excuse, maybe tell them I've got a construction crew there and the noise is unbearable and starting too early in the morning or something, I prefer that kind of lie over one that's verifiable via a little Googling and / or property tax records, not that a hotel clerk would really bother looking into that. The hotel could always ask for my new address in case there's a problem with the credit card (or as a requirement to update their rewards program file or whatever).

I pretty much never check out anyway. Maybe if its the kind of place like where they valet parked my car for me and I need to pick it up for some reason I'll deal with the front desk on the way out, but otherwise never.

[QUOTE=MulchMan;2886830]My millennial sugar baby (MSB) had other traits that characterize her generation. She was narcissistic in that she was very concerned about her appearance. You could tell by what she posted on her social media sites. One night when we were in bed I caressed her face during foreplay. She asked me not to touch her face because it would mess up her makeup. She didn't want to have to reapply her makeup since she was going to 'hang out' with friends after I dropped her off around 11:30.[/QUOTE]Hey, don't feel bad. I have my own children that age and I can not get them on the phone for anything. Text all day long. My SBs are all Millenials and unfortunately that is the way it is. I would love for my current to walk in, hug and kiss me, tell me she missed me, stroke my Dick and tell me to roll over while she works on me for a while -nah. She does come in, I force her to kiss for a minute or two, then she unabashedly shucks her clothes and goes to the mat for a good fucking. You are looking for an IRL GF. Or perhaps you (we) need to date more age appropriate. The bottom line is -as guys have said before --they are there to pick up a paycheck. And the bottom line for most of us -we are there to fuck young pussy. Enjoy the fucking -work it for all you are worth ,and don't try to turn her into something she is not .

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2886340]This girl wants her SD cash flow to start at the M&G. She goes by M. Kelly94 on SA, L. Kelly94 on SD4 Me and Miss Melissa94 on WYP.

I messaged her back that I was willing to pay at the m & g only after we had dessert in my hotel room. She blocked me.

She's 22 with a kid and a waitress or shift manager depending on which profile and which day you read it.[/QUOTE]When they put 18 -80 on age preference they are either Pros or have no intention to give it up for us. Almost all real SBs have age limits on the guys they will see (and sleep with). If the age is unlimited then they have no discrimination at all. This girl is probably the latter -just milk guys for a free dinner and cash. Too bad SA doesn't have an age preference screen for them (that I can see anyway) since that will be a clue for us.

Some guys are either stupid or eternally hopeful to pay these Pots to meet. The rest of us don't want them anyway since they are rinsers

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2888438]Hey, don't feel bad. I have my own children that age and I can not get them on the phone for anything. Text all day long. My SBs are all Millenials and unfortunately that is the way it is. I would love for my current to walk in, hug and kiss me, tell me she missed me, stroke my Dick and tell me to roll over while she works on me for a while -nah. She does come in, I force her to kiss for a minute or two, then she unabashedly shucks her clothes and goes to the mat for a good fucking. You are looking for an IRL GF. Or perhaps you (we) need to date more age appropriate. The bottom line is -as guys have said before --they are there to pick up a paycheck. And the bottom line for most of us -we are there to fuck young pussy. Enjoy the fucking -work it for all you are worth ,and don't try to turn her into something she is not .[/QUOTE]Good points. I simply wished that she would have occasionally initiated some affection. It was mainly a one way street. You would think that after 6 months of dinners, movies and trips to the mall that she would step up her game. I wonder if most millennials are that stoic. Probably need to increase my age range.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2888454]When they put 18 -80 on age preference they are either Pros or have no intention to give it up for us. Almost all real SBs have age limits on the guys they will see (and sleep with). If the age is unlimited then they have no discrimination at all. This girl is probably the latter -just milk guys for a free dinner and cash. Too bad SA doesn't have an age preference screen for them (that I can see anyway) since that will be a clue for us.

Some guys are either stupid or eternally hopeful to pay these Pots to meet. The rest of us don't want them anyway since they are rinsers[/QUOTE]Now there is the question. What is a real sb?. It seems like just because they put a profile on an arrangement site they are sb.

The same can be said about a sd. Lets face it there is very few real on either side LOL.

[QUOTE=MulchMan;2888989]Good points. I simply wished that she would have occasionally initiated some affection. It was mainly a one way street. You would think that after 6 months of dinners, movies and trips to the mall that she would step up her game. I wonder if most millennials are that stoic. Probably need to increase my age range.[/QUOTE]I never hear from them between dates unless I send them an email. Even then my questions are answered line by line without any other comments to stimulate further messages.

I agree it would be nice to have them at least show some affection. Common sense should tell them they could get more money out of guy if they did. Instead I keep looking for the next one that may be my ideal SB. Age doesn't seem to matter. All any of them care about is the wallet if they are willing to see old guys.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2889102]I never hear from them between dates unless I send them an email. Even then my questions are answered line by line without any other comments to stimulate further messages.

I agree it would be nice to have them at least show some affection. Common sense should tell them they could get more money out of guy if they did. Instead I keep looking for the next one that may be my ideal SB. Age doesn't seem to matter. All any of them care about is the wallet if they are willing to see old guys.[/QUOTE]Come on guys what are you expecting especially if there is a big age difference. If your going after the 18-20's college girl your the check paying her student loans or tuition. Know that going in. If you want genuine affection get a dog LOL, much cheaper. . Now if your wanting affection go for the single struggling mothers who would definitely appreciate the help much more. To the hard body college kid your a reliable paycheck and mostly usually that's it. If your lucky enough to get a GFE out of your session then you can't complain. If they aren't providing what your looking for move on.

Alot of what you require should be addressed at the m / g so explain what's expected from them to what your providing.

I took a SB to the FC the other night. She pounces on me and starts riding me cowgirl before I am able to get to her pussy. This was a little unusual I thought. After about fifteen minutes of her riding me, I tell her that I want to switch positions. I make her get off my dick and notice the condom is covered in blood as well as the base of my cock. I started to freak out. She then tells me she is on her period.

I was pissed because I was covered in her blood and further exposed to any viruses she may have had. I wish she would have disclosed that she was on the rag before sex. She wanted to fuck me bareback initially, but I pushed her off and put on a rubber. I really dodged a bullet there.

I know I've seen on here SB's using the period as an excuse to decline sex, but never thought a girl would just go and fuck on her period without clearing it with her partner first. Has anyone had a similar experience?

SDX.

Anyone playing in Boston area and would like to trade info? PM's are fine too.

Please see this girl and tell me what you see, try not to post, please PM me, anyone.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/a2865542-5033-b567-14f3-f71628f04f9a[/URL]

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2888438]Hey, don't feel bad. I have my own children that age and I can not get them on the phone for anything. Text all day long. My SBs are all Millenials and unfortunately that is the way it is. I would love for my current to walk in, hug and kiss me, tell me she missed me, stroke my Dick and tell me to roll over while she works on me for a while -nah. She does come in, I force her to kiss for a minute or two, then she unabashedly shucks her clothes and goes to the mat for a good fucking. You are looking for an IRL GF. Or perhaps you (we) need to date more age appropriate. The bottom line is -as guys have said before --they are there to pick up a paycheck. And the bottom line for most of us -we are there to fuck young pussy. Enjoy the fucking -work it for all you are worth ,and don't try to turn her into something she is not .[/QUOTE]I have had many millennials, as a matter of fact I am not even considering over 25. I know it is chance, but when you get one good, there is no match on satisfaction. I have had a few I am so fucking fortunate to run in to.

Who love to fuck like they are with Brad Pitt. I still see two of them others lost touch and moved on, since I always crave for newer.

Working on one right now from University, hotty with rack like you wouldn't believe and firm. Sent me videos and pictures so far have scheduled on FC soon will report, costing much though.