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[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6090884]For those that've seen her, how accurate is this photo? I know she's known for all the plastic, so just curious how bad it rly is. She's touring OC with MKC rn.[/QUOTE]Its fairly accurate. But very plastic and I would add a few years. She does keep the lights very red and very dim.
[QUOTE=LC310;6088890]I'm in Chicago often and it's a wasteland compared to LA / OC. Places like Red Lantern has hit or miss girls working out of a dump of a place. There is only one K-Org place with 2 or 3 girls and out in the burbs. The MPs are mostly rub and tugs and not FS and expected tips are nearly double what you pay in LA/OC.[/QUOTE]I'm originally from Chicago and I had a blast mongering out there. I had Asian girls ranging from Korean, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese. White girls born here in the states to Eastern European white girls. The Latinas were either Puerto Rican, Columbian, or Mexican. Couple of porn stars out there too. CFS for about 80% of them but there were a few that let me hit it raw. Good times.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6087867]It's important to isolate treating kgirls well and critiquing their service as two wholly separate things. One may have an affect on the other or vice versa but at the end of the day, they are two distinct aspects of mongering.
I very much doubt that the vast majority of mongers treat kgirls poorly or sees them only as sex dolls or less than human beings. If the bookers are doing their job correctly, these types of individuals are usually weeded out during vetting or BL shortly after a session or two with kgirls. Small infractions are rarely heard about and / or disseminated in the community. More often than not, only the extreme cases bubble up to the top and reach the forums (broken ribs, fake currency, theft, nonconsensual filming, etc.). While each incident is tragic, the small amount of similarly severe cases is often taken at face value and mischaracterized as rampant in the scene. Which it is not, this is just selection bias. Taking a step back, given the amount of agencies and kgirls across the LA / OC area and however many hundreds of sessions that occur everyday over however many years these incidents occur, the percentage of this happening to kgirls is miniscule. I'm not discounting how horrible it is, but we all need to take into consideration the likelihood also. For instance, in our lifetime we have close to a 1% chance of dying in a car crash but most of us still choose to commute and drive cars.
As for the later aspect, every monger possesses an idealized concept of what they perceive as good service. This becomes a grading rubric each kgirl will be tested against. How well they mesh and score will determine what kind of reviews will posted after the fact. Given the circumstance and dynamics involved, critiquing a kgirl's performance is integral, if not mandatory, to the whole process. You are paying for a service and not with chump change either. If, for example, I'm shelling out $300 at two restaurants: one has great ambiance, knowledgeable wait staff, and great food while another has wailing kids running amok, servers that clearly hate their job, and food not much better than the Sizzler's around the corner, I sure am going to be complaining to management and posting a review reflective of what I experience on Yelp, Google reviews, Tripadvisor, or similar platforms.
Ultimately, I don't think we mongers as a whole are treating kgirls unfairly. With how donations are pretty similar regardless of where you go (not including upcharges), kgirls demonstrating exceptional characteristics / service and those that fall short should equally be called out to benefit the community and give bookers notice on what we want and like. Moreover, upcharges were a consequence and byproduct of kgirls themselves and the bookers ran with it. The delineation between upcharge and not upcharge girls and all issues arising because of it is their damn own fault. In your words "Eric (and I would add all kgirls) are solely here for the money, not sex". I agree with that statement but I would also add that we mongers are here solely (most of us anyways) for the sex, not the inadequacies originating from said kgirl that affects it. We're all consenting adults here. The ability of certain kgirls to be able to cope with fucking strangers day in and day out, to have the mental fortitude to deliver consistent service to the majority of her clients, and to not drag drama into the session is the linchpin in separating the superstars and the duds. I don't think, even for a second, that evaluating a service I paid for dehumanizes the people involve. We all (should) know and be aware that it boils down to a transaction and a service, bought and paid for. I can be polite, cordial, and courteous while objectively evaluating how well you please me. I have faith that most of us here can too. And it should no way indicate that we are callous or otherwise for doing so. If this still sounds dehumanizing or offensive to you, then we just have to agree to disagree. I can't speak for others but, personally, I pursue the good fucks and don't treat the dud fucks any less than the good ones.[/QUOTE]Sizzler has good cheese bread, don't knock it.
[QUOTE=Pyhan83;6091617]I'm originally from Chicago and I had a blast mongering out there. I had Asian girls ranging from Korean, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese. White girls born here in the states to Eastern European white girls. The Latinas were either Puerto Rican, Columbian, or Mexican. Couple of porn stars out there too. CFS for about 80% of them but there were a few that let me hit it raw. Good times.[/QUOTE]Since you're putting it out there, it'd be useful if you dropped some links / recommendations.
Sfk line up.
Sfk: Arisa Viki Allie Erika.
Kbliss: Jessica arisa Allie Erika.
[QUOTE=MisterChango;6091411]Booker gray blacklisted me when they were in a bad mood asking for availability of a girl and then telling me to choose another one. So iDK.
Probably? I booked through Pepsi Palace on HX.[/QUOTE]I find it funny how the piece of caca bookers have the worst attitude are the ones that promote up-charging with k-gils giving subpar service while the nice respectful courteous bookers promoting non upcharge and keeping prices low their k-girls give way better service, come on guys wake up vote with your money! If you get treated bad give your money to those who deserve it, the ones that treat you right and with respect. I know those fake pictures make you guys salivate but at some point people need to stand up for what is right. These high prices are ridiculous even their own girls are suffering getting less business because everyone is going to go see the non-upcharge girls.
[QUOTE=Sonicus;6092161]I find it funny how the piece of caca bookers have the worst attitude are the ones that promote up-charging with k-gils giving subpar service while the nice respectful courteous bookers promoting non upcharge and keeping prices low their k-girls give way better service, come on guys wake up vote with your money! If you get treated bad give your money to those who deserve it, the ones that treat you right and with respect. I know those fake pictures make you guys salivate but at some point people need to stand up for what is right. These high prices are ridiculous even their own girls are suffering getting less business because everyone is going to go see the non-upcharge girls.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but the sad reality is that most guys will just think with their dicks. As long as there is a somewhat easy access to pussy, no matter the quality in terms of the booking process or the girls, they will still continue to book. The fact that they are still in business despite their shenanigans means no PSA will ever matter. Even "boycotts" that have been posted on the forum also do not work. The only thing you can do is control your own behavior and not get abused for your own sake.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6091644]Since you're putting it out there, it'd be useful if you dropped some links / recommendations.[/QUOTE]This was over a decade ago so a lot of them, not even in the business anymore.
[QUOTE=PumpNDump;6090212]Can't sleep as I am still high of my back to back to back challenge at sfk. Had booker line me up with the girls one after another, took some coordination. Erica was lined up first, then Allie, then Viki. As those that have seen erica she is the definite looker. She's obviously new to the biz and not as experienced but she is picking up knowledge. Erica drained me for 2 nuts. On to the next which is Allie. No need to throw in the details about skills as she is a service queen that brings smiles on our faces. Allie did her due diligence and got 2 mediocre loads out of the tubesteak. By this time I'm wondering what did I get my self into as Viki is next. Well Viki worked the hardest of all 3 girls to get me to release. This time I let her do 90% of the work as I was tired with slight back ache from flipping and dicking 2 girls prior. Viki's skill and talent showed and also milked 2 tiny nuts from me. She looked puzzled as it mainly amounted to precum, she thought I didn't cum. Oh BTW vitamin v helped me as this is my first time doing a trifecta, LOL. I guess mark this off the bucket list of things to do. Girls are more fun 1 by 1 instead of 3 ways and I got to nut 6 times in 3 hrs. Viki skills showed and was the finale of the event. For you horndogs ask booker about coordinating a back to back or back-to-back-to-back, you'll leave sore drained and relieved all at the same time and take on Viki as the finale for your final releases.[/QUOTE]I'd need the blue pill and supplements to get 6 shots off in 3 hours, or a solid month of not polishing the rod. Surprised your dick hasn't fallen off yet.
I tried to do a search for her in the OC forums but couldn't find anything. She looks to be an upcharge girl but the pictures did intrigue me. Anyone recognize her?
[URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/nara[/URL]
LOL, I'm still recuperating. I haven't nutted like this since high school. But unlike high school I now need the vitamin v for that boost.
[QUOTE=BleachChugger;6092719]I'd need the blue pill and supplements to get 6 shots off in 3 hours, or a solid month of not polishing the rod. Surprised your dick hasn't fallen off yet.[/QUOTE]
Saw Berry of CG, SAG, BG and she is a serious MILF, definitely over 40 but her body is totally my type with big juicy natural tits that match the photos and a surprising grade A booty. She lacked a bit in energy, does not like to kiss, but she's a solid fuck and I love her body. BBFSCIPx2. Did not appreciate the clock being ten minutes fast however. Decent English. Said she's taking a break starting tomorrow.
I remember people going here back in 19? Or 2020 and no one seems to bring them up anymore. I don't remember hearing good things about them then but they seem to have fell off a cliff in terms of popularity as late. I can't remember the last time anyone posted about this agency.
Sfk / kbliss on deck.
Sfk Arisa Viki Erika.
Kbliss Jessica arisa Erika.
Great review. Anyone seen Cola from SFK or Kbliss? I like to have my backups lined up in case the first choice is not available at my preferred time slot.
[QUOTE=PumpNDump;6090212]Can't sleep as I am still high of my back to back to back challenge at sfk. Had booker line me up with the girls one after another, took some coordination. Erica was lined up first, then Allie, then Viki. As those that have seen erica she is the definite looker. She's obviously new to the biz and not as experienced but she is picking up knowledge. Erica drained me for 2 nuts. On to the next which is Allie. No need to throw in the details about skills as she is a service queen that brings smiles on our faces. Allie did her due diligence and got 2 mediocre loads out of the tubesteak. By this time I'm wondering what did I get my self into as Viki is next. Well Viki worked the hardest of all 3 girls to get me to release. This time I let her do 90% of the work as I was tired with slight back ache from flipping and dicking 2 girls prior. Viki's skill and talent showed and also milked 2 tiny nuts from me. She looked puzzled as it mainly amounted to precum, she thought I didn't cum. Oh BTW vitamin v helped me as this is my first time doing a trifecta, LOL. I guess mark this off the bucket list of things to do. Girls are more fun 1 by 1 instead of 3 ways and I got to nut 6 times in 3 hrs. Viki skills showed and was the finale of the event. For you horndogs ask booker about coordinating a back to back or back-to-back-to-back, you'll leave sore drained and relieved all at the same time and take on Viki as the finale for your final releases.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6092859]I tried to do a search for her in the OC forums but couldn't find anything. She looks to be an upcharge girl but the pictures did intrigue me. Anyone recognize her?
[URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/nara[/URL][/QUOTE]That's LSC Bonnie. Great service. Photos spot-on.
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6093049]I remember people going here back in 19? Or 2020 and no one seems to bring them up anymore. I don't remember hearing good things about them then but they seem to have fell off a cliff in terms of popularity as late. I can't remember the last time anyone posted about this agency.[/QUOTE]The KTE booker went crazy once when I nutted in one of the Babies without paying upcharge, so I had to block the number. So, fuck 'them if they can't take a joke.
Won't repeat what accurately has already been stated on her. Definitely less experienced and was extremely sensitive in daty. On the one hand that was kind of nice as veteran k-girls typically don't orgasm as easily in my experience due to their mileage. She orgasmed multiple times. So, don't act like a bulldog on a pork chop while down there or you'll get the "not so hard, honey". I will likely repeat as she is the prettiest & great body non-upcharge k-girl I have seen in a long time and service was good enough. Hopefully, she sticks around and levels up on her service game.
[QUOTE=CaptCaveman99;6093965]Won't repeat what accurately has already been stated on her. Definitely less experienced and was extremely sensitive in daty. On the one hand that was kind of nice as veteran k-girls typically don't orgasm as easily in my experience due to their mileage. She orgasmed multiple times. So, don't act like a bulldog on a pork chop while down there or you'll get the "not so hard, honey". I will likely repeat as she is the prettiest & great body non-upcharge k-girl I have seen in a long time and service was good enough. Hopefully, she sticks around and levels up on her service game.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. It 's now a mixed bag about her which puts her in some real perspective than the initial hype. This one gives me "Bella" vibes who came around a few years back being too sensitive and you had to be way too gentle to have a good session. The cynical part of me thinks that she'll be this way for the foreseeable future until she ends up like a magician and poof, no more Erica. As of today, she's still too hard to book and requires prebooking to be able to see her. So the take here is to see her for looks, but service is a distant second? I saw a girl like this in my earlier days who was very good looking but was a complete ice queen. I don't think it's the same comparison but it did remind me of that experience.
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6094046]Thanks for the review. It 's now a mixed bag about her which puts her in some real perspective than the initial hype. This one gives me "Bella" vibes who came around a few years back being too sensitive and you had to be way too gentle to have a good session. The cynical part of me thinks that she'll be this way for the foreseeable future until she ends up like a magician and poof, no more Erica. As of today, she's still too hard to book and requires prebooking to be able to see her. So the take here is to see her for looks, but service is a distant second?[/QUOTE]Like I've said before, no one will say she's service over looks. Look, I'm all for girls that are new-ish, and I can dial it back plenty while they adjust. But you can tell from a girl's whole vibe and energy whether she wants to grow and improve to provide a more pleasurable experience. That is, for you or the next guy that you might've referred her way. I didn't get that sense from Erica one bit. So unfortunately I hate to agree with your cynicism. She will likely leave before she grows out of her shell.
To the folks that still haven't seen her, do yourself a favor and don't get caught up with her looks. You'd be better off getting inside her head, making her think that she's going to have to win you over some other way. Worth a shot at least.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6087867]It's important to isolate treating kgirls well and critiquing their service as two wholly separate things. One may have an affect on the other or vice versa but at the end of the day, they are two distinct aspects of mongering.
I very much doubt that the vast majority of mongers treat kgirls poorly or sees them only as sex dolls or less than human beings. If the bookers are doing their job correctly, these types of individuals are usually weeded out during vetting or BL shortly after a session or two with kgirls. Small infractions are rarely heard about and / or disseminated in the community. More often than not, only the extreme cases bubble up to the top and reach the forums (broken ribs, fake currency, theft, nonconsensual filming, etc.). While each incident is tragic, the small amount of similarly severe cases is often taken at face value and mischaracterized as rampant in the scene. Which it is not, this is just selection bias. Taking a step back, given the amount of agencies and kgirls across the LA / OC area and however many hundreds of sessions that occur everyday over however many years these incidents occur, the percentage of this happening to kgirls is miniscule. I'm not discounting how horrible it is, but we all need to take into consideration the likelihood also. For instance, in our lifetime we have close to a 1% chance of dying in a car crash but most of us still choose to commute and drive cars.
As for the later aspect, every monger possesses an idealized concept of what they perceive as good service. This becomes a grading rubric each kgirl will be tested against. How well they mesh and score will determine what kind of reviews will posted after the fact. Given the circumstance and dynamics involved, critiquing a kgirl's performance is integral, if not mandatory, to the whole process. You are paying for a service and not with chump change either. If, for example, I'm shelling out $300 at two restaurants: one has great ambiance, knowledgeable wait staff, and great food while another has wailing kids running amok, servers that clearly hate their job, and food not much better than the Sizzler's around the corner, I sure am going to be complaining to management and posting a review reflective of what I experience on Yelp, Google reviews, Tripadvisor, or similar platforms.
Ultimately, I don't think we mongers as a whole are treating kgirls unfairly. With how donations are pretty similar regardless of where you go (not including upcharges), kgirls demonstrating exceptional characteristics / service and those that fall short should equally be called out to benefit the community and give bookers notice on what we want and like. Moreover, upcharges were a consequence and byproduct of kgirls themselves and the bookers ran with it. The delineation between upcharge and not upcharge girls and all issues arising because of it is their damn own fault. In your words "Eric (and I would add all kgirls) are solely here for the money, not sex". I agree with that statement but I would also add that we mongers are here solely (most of us anyways) for the sex, not the inadequacies originating from said kgirl that affects it. We're all consenting adults here. The ability of certain kgirls to be able to cope with fucking strangers day in and day out, to have the mental fortitude to deliver consistent service to the majority of her clients, and to not drag drama into the session is the linchpin in separating the superstars and the duds. I don't think, even for a second, that evaluating a service I paid for dehumanizes the people involve. We all (should) know and be aware that it boils down to a transaction and a service, bought and paid for. I can be polite, cordial, and courteous while objectively evaluating how well you please me. I have faith that most of us here can too. And it should no way indicate that we are callous or otherwise for doing so. If this still sounds dehumanizing or offensive to you, then we just have to agree to disagree. I can't speak for others but, personally, I pursue the good fucks and don't treat the dud fucks any less than the good ones.[/QUOTE]Very well said. And also TheABC brought very good points as well.
Separating critique of quality of services / value of services / price of services from people as person, is critical here. Most people have no issue doing this in other industries, it's quite natural. If you think your food is undercooked you complain to the chef that this food sucks, you aren't treating him as an object or any other nonsense. Same with a janitor if he / she fails at their job or isn't good at it. Or cmt. Or doctor.
So why is it even brought up in this industry? If a girl is fat, she's fat. If she can't fuck, she can't fuck.
It has nothing to do with dehumanizing the girl. She may be an absolutely wonderful human being, but being a nice girl or guy isn't a profession.
Not to mention, there are shills and org guys who noticed this rhetoric and have been using it to discredit other people's opinion to the point its often a part of their playbook.
[QUOTE=CaptCaveman99;6093965]Won't repeat what accurately has already been stated on her. Definitely less experienced and was extremely sensitive in daty. On the one hand that was kind of nice as veteran k-girls typically don't orgasm as easily in my experience due to their mileage. She orgasmed multiple times. So, don't act like a bulldog on a pork chop while down there or you'll get the "not so hard, honey". I will likely repeat as she is the prettiest & great body non-upcharge k-girl I have seen in a long time and service was good enough. Hopefully, she sticks around and levels up on her service game.[/QUOTE]Its amazing you got to meet or book her, I tried kbliss and SFG so far and no luck. New to the kscene, always been around MP and had friends, I know no one in the kscene but I really wanted Erica due to so many great reviews here!
Its my 1st post and I am completely new here and to the Kscene. Anyone who can help me and guide me! Thanks in Advance!
[QUOTE=EasyPeasyDong;6093890]That's LSC Bonnie. Great service. Photos spot-on.[/QUOTE]I think I found her. She left LSC earlier this month to work down here as recent reviews have mentioned. Reviews says she's tall, I wonder if she was like Sunlight? I never got a chance to go see her though I was tempted to before she ghosted out of LA. The guys seem to rate her pretty positive. She was an unknown to me yesterday and with upcharge. Another downside for me was she's in the OC.
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/bonnie-6692158268-349715[/URL]
[URL]https://naughtynsexy.com/talent/bonnie/[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6094344]I think I found her. She left LSC earlier this month to work down here as recent reviews have mentioned. Reviews says she's tall, I wonder if she was like Sunlight? I never got a chance to go see her though I was tempted to before she ghosted out of LA. The guys seem to rate her pretty positive. She was an unknown to me yesterday and with upcharge. Another downside for me was she's in the OC.
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/bonnie-6692158268-349715[/URL]
[URL]https://naughtynsexy.com/talent/bonnie/[/URL][/QUOTE]Sunlight was legit between 5'10" to 6,' and they even advertised her shorter as 5'7". It looks like Bonnie has never been listed as taller than 5'4".
Real and accurate photoshop pics. Prettier than 95% of Kgirls in SoCal. Probably as pretty as any prettiest current Kgirl you know. I prefer looks and inexperienced young girls over service so she's perfect for me. Only con is magnums should avoid her cause you and her won't have a good time.
She smiled every time we made eye contact. BBBJ and mish with eye contact but she closed her eyes sometimes. The way she initiated kissing is the way I kiss cute girls. Made the whole experience felt very GFE. Did everything I asked with a smile. Great attitude and a submissive pleaser.
Orgasm easily as CaptCaveman99 said. She did tell me to be soft on DATY and no FIV. I easily adjusted and made it enjoyable for her. She seemed nice and friendly. Pretty good English. Someone else can train her with repeat visits. Already good enough for me and may get better with repeats.
Whether she can grow out of her shell depends on repeated mongers with the tolerant and patience to teach her new tricks. She's not so GPS that she won't try.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6094091]Like I've said before, no one will say she's service over looks. Look, I'm all for girls that are new-ish, and I can dial it back plenty while they adjust. But you can tell from a girl's whole vibe and energy whether she wants to grow and improve to provide a more pleasurable experience. That is, for you or the next guy that you might've referred her way. I didn't get that sense from Erica one bit. So unfortunately I hate to agree with your cynicism. She will likely leave before she grows out of her shell.
To the folks that still haven't seen her, do yourself a favor and don't get caught up with her looks. You'd be better off getting inside her head, making her think that she's going to have to win you over some other way. Worth a shot at least.[/QUOTE]
Your backup for Erica should be Remi or Bitna.
[QUOTE=TrustProcess;6093730]Great review. Anyone seen Cola from SFK or Kbliss? I like to have my backups lined up in case the first choice is not available at my preferred time slot.[/QUOTE]
HYA club keeps watch for the Baby brand. I still go there for young girls. Someone just mentioned their girl yesterday. I don't think he got the correct cup size but everything else I can agree.
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6093049]I remember people going here back in 19? Or 2020 and no one seems to bring them up anymore. I don't remember hearing good things about them then but they seem to have fell off a cliff in terms of popularity as late. I can't remember the last time anyone posted about this agency.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Poopsandgiggle;6093766]Wow just saw her and she's perfect. Petite and slender with natural a or b cup tits. Total civvie vibes. I don't know where she came from but I just became a regular.
Highly recommend![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6094438]Whether she can grow out of her shell depends on repeated mongers with the tolerant and patience to teach her new tricks.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you found a good match. Indeed, Erica will definitely have her repeats. And to that extent, her learning curve has the potential to be steeper, and perhaps with a higher ceiling. If she sticks it out -no pun intended- maybe it'll have a positive impact incoming talent.
Younger, hotter, and better than that Bella. Erica is not too sensitive that you would have to be way gentle to have a good session. She is not extremely sensitive in DATY either and can enjoy it. Erica is not an ice queen. She made me feel very comfortable. I will see if repeats get better.
For anyone who understands my standard, I highly recommend Erica. If anyone wants her to stay longer, write more review for people on the fence. This is a chance for LA to train her to become a superstar. I don't care about services or I would help improve her service.
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6094046]Thanks for the review. It 's now a mixed bag about her which puts her in some real perspective than the initial hype. This one gives me "Bella" vibes who came around a few years back being too sensitive and you had to be way too gentle to have a good session. The cynical part of me thinks that she'll be this way for the foreseeable future until she ends up like a magician and poof, no more Erica. As of today, she's still too hard to book and requires prebooking to be able to see her. So the take here is to see her for looks, but service is a distant second? I saw a girl like this in my earlier days who was very good looking but was a complete ice queen. I don't think it's the same comparison but it did remind me of that experience.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6094498]If anyone wants (Erica) to stay longer, write more review for people on the fence.[/QUOTE]And while you guys are at it, it's not's a bad idea to include TER. Particularly for those unfamiliar to this thread.
Reading all these things about Erica, I'm a little hesitant.
Are any of you like me? I can lose a boner with a pretty face if the service is too meh.
So some questions. .
Would you even characterize erica as erotic? Or is her default behavior and routine vanilla? I mean is she kinda reserved? Or can she feign some enthusiasm? There is a range between ice queen and voracious (1 to 10), and I wonder what you would rate her on this scale.
Does her pussy get pretty wet naturally? Usually I do gentle FIV to get juices flowing, but erica is no FIV. (I remember my visit with Saki last year, and she was so dry I had to pump a lot of lube into her.).
Does it look like erica is daydreaming when you're pounding her? Because that's what it sounds like. Sounds passive. I like more horny interaction and some initiative, even if not PSE. Otherwise, my boner dies quickly.
You guys remember pretty face Chloe from Booker J years ago. I went soft because she went through this routine that didn't feel genuine (fakely genuine of course). She was just not enthusiastically erotic enough for me despite her pretty face.
I need some connection; something more than just polite and comfortable.
[QUOTE=RocketManP;6094132]Very well said. And also TheABC brought very good points as well.
Separating critique of quality of services / value of services / price of services from people as person, is critical here. Most people have no issue doing this in other industries, it's quite natural. If you think your food is undercooked you complain to the chef that this food sucks, you aren't treating him as an object or any other nonsense. Same with a janitor if he / she fails at their job or isn't good at it. Or cmt. Or doctor.
So why is it even brought up in this industry? If a girl is fat, she's fat. If she can't fuck, she can't fuck.
It has nothing to do with dehumanizing the girl. She may be an absolutely wonderful human being, but being a nice girl or guy isn't a profession.
Not to mention, there are shills and org guys who noticed this rhetoric and have been using it to discredit other people's opinion to the point its often a part of their playbook.[/QUOTE]I just traced this chain back to the original thread. Who even is that guy? We're on this website to share information about each provider's quality of service and quality of looks. I think I can honestly fairly say that most mongers on here treat workers well and with respect. And even if it is transactional, it doesn't mean we are dehumanizing sex workers.
But if a provider's looks and / or service is subpar, we are recognizing that the quality of the product (the package offered and NOT the worker themselves) is not to an acceptable standard. This is my money, and I am not going to pay for low quality product if I can help it. And that's what we are all here for.
You CAN perceive services as transactional AND respect sex workers. They are not mutually dependent on one another.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6094498]Younger, hotter, and better than that Bella. Erica is not too sensitive that you would have to be way gentle to have a good session. She is not extremely sensitive in DATY either and can enjoy it. Erica is not an ice queen. She made me feel very comfortable. I will see if repeats get better.
For anyone who understands my standard, I highly recommend Erica. If anyone wants her to stay longer, write more review for people on the fence. This is a chance for LA to train her to become a superstar. I don't care about services or I would help improve her service.[/QUOTE]Bella was less than spectacular, I think a guy here Francesco or something loved her for some reason. Erica might be up my alley in terms of GFE but just about has a train ran into her every time she is working. It was mentioned a few times this year about girls complaining that things were slow. Yeah, slow for them but the free market suggests otherwise with Erica. There's obvious demand and I think Erica being booked fully for days on end since her arrival supports my theory that talent is the problem as we've been saying all this time. She's hitting the perfect blend of price + looks + service (YMMV on the service part) trifecta. The girls / bookers are just getting greedy. I'm only looking at the perspective that matters to me, my own and fellow guys who go. Without trying to sound like a cliche, but I'll always vote with my greenbacks since that's the only thing that matters in this industry. I hope Erica is still around in a few months time.
[QUOTE=JuvyNiled;6094538]I just traced this chain back to the original thread. Who even is that guy? We're on this website to share information about each provider's quality of service and quality of looks. I think I can honestly fairly say that most mongers on here treat workers well and with respect. And even if it is transactional, it doesn't mean we are dehumanizing sex workers.
But if a provider's looks and / or service is subpar, we are recognizing that the quality of the product (the package offered and NOT the worker themselves) is not to an acceptable standard. This is my money, and I am not going to pay for low quality product if I can help it. And that's what we are all here for.
You CAN perceive services as transactional AND respect sex workers. They are not mutually dependent on one another.[/QUOTE]He posts occasionally every so often then disappears. He lurks more than he posts from the looks of it. Besides being told on the fallacies of his arguments, he apparently sees himself as a savior for these girls. One of his recent posts, he claims to have asked them out on dates that THEY pay for. Going by this logic, if hes so charming and charismatic to woo hoes into this situation, what's he doing on a forum like this about P4 P? Something about this smells funny and it isn't a STD.
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6094569]Bella was less than spectacular, I think a guy here Francesco or something loved her for some reason. Erica might be up my alley in terms of GFE but just about has a train ran into her every time she is working. It was mentioned a few times this year about girls complaining that things were slow. Yeah, slow for them but the free market suggests otherwise with Erica. There's obvious demand and I think Erica being booked fully for days on end since her arrival supports my theory that talent is the problem as we've been saying all this time. She's hitting the perfect blend of price + looks + service (YMMV on the service part) trifecta. The girls / bookers are just getting greedy. I'm only looking at the perspective that matters to me, my own and fellow guys who go. Without trying to sound like a cliche, but I'll always vote with my greenbacks since that's the only thing that matters in this industry. I hope Erica is still around in a few months time.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Saw CG Shani, and wasn't worth the upcharge. CYA / HYA sure, but not Erica level. And SFK Erica is cheaper. Scarcely repeat with upcharge favorites, but will see a worthy non-upcharge girl almost weekly.
Sfk / kbliss funpad roster.
Sfk Arisa Viki Erika.
Kbliss Jessica Arisa Erika.
For those of you asking about cola, she's not working yet. No eta.
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6093049]I remember people going here back in 19? Or 2020 and no one seems to bring them up anymore. I don't remember hearing good things about them then but they seem to have fell off a cliff in terms of popularity as late. I can't remember the last time anyone posted about this agency.[/QUOTE]They also have a second website [URL]https://www.booker-h.com/shop[/URL].
Not sure why the need for a second site but when it first appeared the booker H site would have one or two more girls than the original site. Lately they've been exactly the same. I don't use them that often but they still are good for me when I use them.
You are right about being a rebrand, but which one? Time will time if she shows up as it looks like her pics have been in Vegas agency for the past 2 weeks or so.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6094451]Your backup for Erica should be Remi or Bitna.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NintyNine;6094533]Reading all these things about Erica, I'm a little hesitant.[/QUOTE]What's the worst that can happen? If you see her then decide it's a no-repeat, is that so bad?
Thinking about do a multi-session with my fav kgirl. Any thought or recommendations?