Have to agree with Chase's comment on Newbie's. My first post was greeted with suggestions that I was LE. I understand that senior members have known each other for some time but some slack for newbie's would help more postings.
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Have to agree with Chase's comment on Newbie's. My first post was greeted with suggestions that I was LE. I understand that senior members have known each other for some time but some slack for newbie's would help more postings.
[QUOTE=Boon666]Had the pleasure of an evening with Amy recently.
I thought she had a great attitude, looks like her pics, and was very accomodating. I look forward to a repeat.
I noticed a few reviews to the contrary, so YMMV, but I was very satisfied.[/QUOTE]I only hope that she isn't a minor. She was involved with Karmel, who was involved in the recent child prostitution sting.
For 3k a month and only 3-4 times a month she is out of her mind.I would hate to think some guy would do that but Im sure there is. For that much she should be doing housekeeping and so cooking some dam dinners-{nude} for me.
Thanks Gator..
[QUOTE=Gatordun]I talked to Cassidy about a month ago after finding her on suggardaddy4u website. I made a offer of more than what shes asking on CL and she told me she needed 3000 a month to visit with her. (3-4 times a month) I laughed at her and told her good luck. That has been my main reason for not TOFTT with her. Although after thinking about it, it would feel a little like sweet revenge to get her at that rate. If I decide to TOFTT ill let you know how it turns out.[/QUOTE]
I also saw Amy last week and she is not a minor from what I can tell. It was a good visit and she was very interested in pleasing. I would repeat because price is right.
Does anybody know anything about this girl? I really want to try her but I wouldn't until I know for sure she's legit. The fact that one of her ads says "party favors welcome" kind of stinks of a sting.
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/905356433.html[/url]
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/895696852.html[/url]
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/906222322.html[/url]
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/896411004.html[/url]
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ers/904571492.html[/url]
[QUOTE=R Consultant]For 3k a month and only 3-4 times a month she is out of her mind.I would hate to think some guy would do that but Im sure there is. For that much she should be doing housekeeping and so cooking some dam dinners-{nude} for me.
Thanks Gator..[/QUOTE]Actually, that is crazy but perhaps not that crazy [b]IF[/b] she spends ALL night each time and [b]IF[/b] she becomes your EXCLUSIVE sugar baby.
There are plenty of providers that advertise overnight "specials" in the $1000 range. Of course, I always have to wonder if any guy ever goes for it. Still, if they're advertising it, I suppose its possible that it at least happens some times. The problem there is that these gals (and possibly some fool who pays for it) don't seem to understand the concept of "volume discount". Paying $150 for an hour of sex is NOT the same thing as paying $900 for 6 hours, particularly considering it is highly unlikely that they'd be having sex continuously over those 6 hours. Also, occasionally finding a customer who is willing to pay $1000 for an overnight is not the same thing as finding a customer who is willing to do it regularly on a weekly basis. Surely, such volume of business entitles the customer to some sort of discount.
What about the exclusive part? If she were to become an EXCLUSIVE sugar baby then $3K/ month ($36K/yr) is not that excessive an income to expect IF that were to become her sole income. The problems are a) if that is going to be her fulltime job then she should expect to have to work more than just 3-4 nights per month and b) does she really expect any guy to believe that she'll remain faithful to her primary "employer" and not "moonlight" on the side by continuing to turn tricks with other guys? I really don't think so.
Maybe she really was just kidding after all ... or maybe she's completely delusional.
BTW, that "Amy" looks a lot like "Mystique" who has been reviewed here before along with her other partner Brianna. IMHO, she is not as good looking as Brianna and from what I hear offers similar service (ie somewhat rushed 1 pop - not GFE). Still, like Law Dawg suggested, how much can you expect for a cut-rate price. Could be an OK deal if all you want to do is get your rocks off. Still, it is possible to get more even for the same price if you look around.
[QUOTE=Myb420]If I had three grand, Id most certainly do that for you all.
Anyone want to be my sponsor?
Im curious, what holds most back from dreaming more or with different dreams. (like the unproven ones in my list)
Is it a monetary issue (like it is with me).
Or is it a privacy/scared of leo thing?
Or just because they are unproven to be good dreams?
I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]I'm feeling pretty good this morning, particularly since my guy won, so now I'm in the "thank god its all over, now why can't all of just get along" phase. I realize now that the reason half your posts seemed to have "disappeared" was not because they had for some reason been pulled but because as a Regular member you had some recent posts that hadn't yet been cleared when I made my post accusing you. So I apologize for that.
Any way, to answer your question, it is a little of all of the above though some more so than others depending on the girl and the situation.
Your post had something like a dozen providers that you were asking about. Money would certainly be an issue to see ALL of them. But apparently you're not even willing to take a gamble on even ONE of them. Money often holds me back, but certainly not ALWAYS.
Money is also a factor if the girl's rates are much above the norm. Sometimes a provider is worth the extra money but more often than not she's no better than other girls who are willing to see you for much less. If you look at it in terms of VALUE (ie what you get RELATIVE to what you spend), that may even be more true. Also, with the more expensive providers, it becomes even more of a gamble if they are also unknown.
I'm more likely to take a chance and TOFTT if the girl is less expensive. After all, if it turns out to be not so great, what are you really out? OTOH, if the girl is really below market, you have to wonder even more why. Is she really a bargain or do you get just what you pay for or, worse, is she really not worth even that?
The privacy/scared of LEO aspect is probably the least of it for me, although that still sometimes plays a part. I don't like bringing girls to my house where my neighbors can see and I'm not crazy about doing it on their turf which could be a set-up for a sting operation. But, to be honest, I'm much more afraid of rip-offs, cash and dashes, bait and switches, upselling or being under delivered by providers than I am about the slight possibility I might get arrested. And I think most hobbyists have misprioritized the real relative risk of these various hazards.
Which brings me to my most common reason for holding back, that they are unproven and present all those other risks beyond the money, privacy or legal ones. Sometimes you get lots of reliable reviews so that you know you at least won't have a horrible time. But more often in this hobby seeing a new provider is at best like reading tea leaves. You try to find signs like the wording and frequency of the ad, how long it has been running, whether the pics look revealing enough, are real or look to good to be true, whether there are any reviews AND whether those reviews seem semi-believable enough. As with pics, glowing reviews by unknown "hobbyists" (especially totally anonymous ones on CL but also at suck-up sites like TER) aren't always to be relied on and can turn out to be too good to be true. Excessively negative reviews are somewhat more believable but can also just be written by someone with an axe to grind. And, besides, those just help you from pulling the trigger on an unknown provider and not encourage you to take the chance, which is what we're talking about here.
More often than not there is not sufficient info out there (actually there is never enough). Sometimes you just gotta go with your gut and take a chance. No one expects you to do it for a dozen or more unknown providers. But where do you think those reviews come for those providers who are better known? Someone somewhere took a chance on them and wrote their first review and others followed even though there were still not many reviews out there at that point. Four times out of five you may prefer to stick just to the ones who are known. For my part, I try to find a good provider and then mostly stick with her since your own personal experience is always the best review. But occasionally we all should "go where no man has gone before" and give back rather than continuing to just be a USER.
[QUOTE=Chase Star]I'm feeling pretty good this morning, particularly since my guy won, so now I'm in the "thank god its all over, now why can't all of just get along" phase. I realize now that the reason half your posts seemed to have "disappeared" was not because they had for some reason been pulled but because as a Regular member you had some recent posts that hadn't yet been cleared when I made my post accusing you. So I apologize for that.
Any way, to answer your question, it is a little of all of the above though some more so than others depending on the girl and the situation.
Your post had something like a dozen providers that you were asking about. Money would certainly be an issue to see ALL of them. But apparently you're not even willing to take a gamble on even ONE of them. Money often holds me back, but certainly not ALWAYS.
Money is also a factor if the girl's rates are much above the norm. Sometimes a provider is worth the extra money but more often than not she's no better than other girls who are willing to see you for much less. If you look at it in terms of VALUE (ie what you get RELATIVE to what you spend), that may even be more true. Also, with the more expensive providers, it becomes even more of a gamble if they are also unknown.
I'm more likely to take a chance and TOFTT if the girl is less expensive. After all, if it turns out to be not so great, what are you really out? OTOH, if the girl is really below market, you have to wonder even more why. Is she really a bargain or do you get just what you pay for or, worse, is she really not worth even that?
The privacy/scared of LEO aspect is probably the least of it for me, although that still sometimes plays a part. I don't like bringing girls to my house where my neighbors can see and I'm not crazy about doing it on their turf which could be a set-up for a sting operation. But, to be honest, I'm much more afraid of rip-offs, cash and dashes, bait and switches, upselling or being under delivered by providers than I am about the slight possibility I might get arrested. And I think most hobbyists have misprioritized the real relative risk of these various hazards.
Which brings me to my most common reason for holding back, that they are unproven and present all those other risks beyond the money, privacy or legal ones. Sometimes you get lots of reliable reviews so that you know you at least won't have a horrible time. But more often in this hobby seeing a new provider is at best like reading tea leaves. You try to find signs like the wording and frequency of the ad, how long it has been running, whether the pics look revealing enough, are real or look to good to be true, whether there are any reviews AND whether those reviews seem semi-believable enough. As with pics, glowing reviews by unknown "hobbyists" (especially totally anonymous ones on CL but also at suck-up sites like TER) aren't always to be relied on and can turn out to be too good to be true. Excessively negative reviews are somewhat more believable but can also just be written by someone with an axe to grind. And, besides, those just help you from pulling the trigger on an unknown provider and not encourage you to take the chance, which is what we're talking about here.
More often than not there is not sufficient info out there (actually there is never enough). Sometimes you just gotta go with your gut and take a chance. No one expects you to do it for a dozen or more unknown providers. But where do you think those reviews come for those providers who are better known? Someone somewhere took a chance on them and wrote their first review and others followed even though there were still not many reviews out there at that point. Four times out of five you may prefer to stick just to the ones who are known. For my part, I try to find a good provider and then mostly stick with her since your own personal experience is always the best review. But occasionally we all should "go where no man has gone before" and give back rather than continuing to just be a USER.[/QUOTE]Chase,
Again, you are the man. Your posts are so informative, well wrote and you take the time to look and explain both sides of whatever subject you happen to be talking about.
I wish I was as educated as you and wish I could write half as eloquently as you. I really enjoy reading your posts, even if it's about something im not too interested in.
Blazin bows down to Chase.
Peace
[QUOTE=Chase Star]Paying $150 for an hour of sex is NOT the same thing as paying $900 for 6 hours, particularly considering it is highly unlikely that they'd be having sex continuously over those 6 hours. [/QUOTE]
Awwwww, then what's the point??!!
But seriously, I'm not sure I'd WANT to wake up with some of the girls I've gone to bed with!
I have heard alot different of stuff on those two. Some good some not so good. As to the mentor that both of those ladies have had isn't saying a whole lot about the customer service that will be offering. I'm sure time will be a true test to how they build a reputation.
Happy Hunting..
[QUOTE=Chase Star]Actually, that is crazy but perhaps not that crazy [b]IF[/b] she spends ALL night each time and [b]IF[/b] she becomes your EXCLUSIVE sugar baby.
There are plenty of providers that advertise overnight "specials" in the $1000 range. Of course, I always have to wonder if any guy ever goes for it. Still, if they're advertising it, I suppose its possible that it at least happens some times. The problem there is that these gals (and possibly some fool who pays for it) don't seem to understand the concept of "volume discount". Paying $150 for an hour of sex is NOT the same thing as paying $900 for 6 hours, particularly considering it is highly unlikely that they'd be having sex continuously over those 6 hours. Also, occasionally finding a customer who is willing to pay $1000 for an overnight is not the same thing as finding a customer who is willing to do it regularly on a weekly basis. Surely, such volume of business entitles the customer to some sort of discount.
What about the exclusive part? If she were to become an EXCLUSIVE sugar baby then $3K/ month ($36K/yr) is not that excessive an income to expect IF that were to become her sole income. The problems are a) if that is going to be her fulltime job then she should expect to have to work more than just 3-4 nights per month and b) does she really expect any guy to believe that she'll remain faithful to her primary "employer" and not "moonlight" on the side by continuing to turn tricks with other guys? I really don't think so.
Maybe she really was just kidding after all ... or maybe she's completely delusional.
BTW, that "Amy" looks a lot like "Mystique" who has been reviewed here before along with her other partner Brianna. IMHO, she is not as good looking as Brianna and from what I hear offers similar service (ie somewhat rushed 1 pop - not GFE). Still, like Law Dawg suggested, how much can you expect for a cut-rate price. Could be an OK deal if all you want to do is get your rocks off. Still, it is possible to get more even for the same price if you look around.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone have the pleasure of dreaming about Julie? She has just one review review on TER. Has been posting all over Backpage.
[url]www.myjulielove.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Drew Park]Awwwww, then what's the point??!!
But seriously, I'm not sure I'd WANT to wake up with some of the girls I've gone to bed with![/QUOTE]That sword cuts both ways. I'm sure lots of hobbyists (myself excluded, of course!) aren't the most attractive thing to wake up to.
HARTFORD, Conn. - Under the watchful eye of law enforcement in 40 states, Craigslist pledged Thursday to crack down on ads for prostitution on its Web sites.
As part of Craigslist's agreement with attorneys general around the country, anyone who posts an "erotic services" ad will be required to provide a working phone number and pay a fee with a valid credit card. The Web site will provide that information to law enforcement if subpoenaed.
Craigslist has also agreed to sue 14 software and Internet companies that help people who post erotic service ads to circumvent the Web site's defenses against inappropriate content and illegal activity.
[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27575624/"]Full article available here[/url]
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ers/908608806.html[/url]
Has anyone seen this girl? I've never seen a girl to trade for herbs.
Legit girl?
[QUOTE=Peterpiper52]Nevaeh is now becoming one of the more popular names for newborn girls.[/QUOTE]
She is not newborn, or even new to Tampa. She was posting on CL about a year ago. She posted some older pics and I recognized the one where she is wearing a pink bikini. Her hair is different now too.
I forget what name she was using, but it might have been Heaven. I remember a number of complaints that she was upsell and occasionally cash and dash.
If someone decides to TOFTT, I suggest you keep that in mind.