Sugar Baby

Thanks for sharing your experience here and the informative reply to my PM. You exemplify the spirit of this forum. Mongers helping others fine tune their skills. Take Care, . Bush Hog.

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;3186524]In response to the inquiring minds, I will first say that TMW is somewhat correct about who is accepting $100. These are not the 18 - 21 college girls who are hotter than all fuck. However, they are not the pigs either. My strategy for that is to target the 28 and up, mostly Plain Jane women, most are the single Mommies who are in need of a little help, but mostly just want a steady fuck without the relationship bullshit. While it is not easy to find these low dollar volume ladies, if you are charming and persistent, and just want a nice looking girl that doesn't have to be a former cheerleader, you can get a very good value for your dollars. With that being said, I rely on the 5 step program that a gentleman named Hollywood Guy introduced to me years ago in another area of this site. It's not for everyone, but it can work very, very well. When I am talking with these women, when we get to the donation discussion, I offer them $100 per meet, and discuss how my last Baby was very happy with that. You would be surprised at how many will say they will accept that. Not droves, but the handful that have has been a surprise. If they say they are looking for more, I will up it to $150 and that will generally seal the deal. As a former sales rep, I always make sure I have room to negotiate. Never offer your highest amount first. If by chance they are young and really hot, I will go to $200, but I will only see them once or twice. That kind of coinage is just not in my long term budget. Also, hosting by them rather than getting a room makes a big difference too.

Having been in this hobby for over 30 years and been involved in many websites / forums for a good 20 of those years, I have learned a lot about sharing information. You will notice for the most part, I offer opinion and past experience wisdom. The reason for this is I have been burnt many times in the past when posting info about ladies I am currently seeing, particularly in a forum that is not open to members only. There are always some asswipe lurkers, who never contribute anything, that take the info and try to get with the ladies favor by telling them who is saying what about them. I am sure we have all been victims of this in the past. If you have not, then you are very lucky. Therefor, I do not discuss names unless I am done seeing them. The one I will give you is Lilbitofun. This is a more mature woman, but she is very, very skilled. A head game second to none and as someone else posted a while ago, can take a pounding. Donation is very reasonable, as also stated. I have moved on to other ladies. As far as the other ones that are on board for that, one is a 40 why / o MILF I was with last week, and the other is a 52 why / o gilf whom I was supposed to see over the weekend but we had to reschedule for the end of this week. Also got a 29 why / o cutie who I have seen once so far for $150. I haven't decided as yet who I will settle in on, if any of them, but I will offer names and reports on the ones I decide not to see anymore. None of these are 10's, 8's at best. But for me, it's about how good they suck and fuck not how good they look. In NY, I was with far too many young 9's and 10's that were pricey and had little to no skills. I just can't do that anymore. You just make them top notch for the next guy while you suffer thru teaching them.

I would hope there is some understanding of why I am doing it this way. Just been burned one too many times. As always, I love being a part of this forum and making a contribution when I can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;3186524]In response to the inquiring minds, I will first say that TMW is somewhat correct about who is accepting $100. These are not the 18 - 21 college girls who are hotter than all fuck. However, they are not the pigs either. My strategy for that is to target the 28 and up, mostly Plain Jane women, most are the single Mommies who are in need of a little help, but mostly just want a steady fuck without the relationship bullshit. While it is not easy to find these low dollar volume ladies, if you are charming and persistent, and just want a nice looking girl that doesn't have to be a former cheerleader, you can get a very good value for your dollars. With that being said, I rely on the 5 step program that a gentleman named Hollywood Guy introduced to me years ago in another area of this site. It's not for everyone, but it can work very, very well. When I am talking with these women, when we get to the donation discussion, I offer them $100 per meet, and discuss how my last Baby was very happy with that. You would be surprised at how many will say they will accept that. Not droves, but the handful that have has been a surprise. If they say they are looking for more, I will up it to $150 and that will generally seal the deal. As a former sales rep, I always make sure I have room to negotiate. Never offer your highest amount first. If by chance they are young and really hot, I will go to $200, but I will only see them once or twice. That kind of coinage is just not in my long term budget. Also, hosting by them rather than getting a room makes a big difference too.

Having been in this hobby for over 30 years and been involved in many websites / forums for a good 20 of those years, I have learned a lot about sharing information. You will notice for the most part, I offer opinion and past experience wisdom. The reason for this is I have been burnt many times in the past when posting info about ladies I am currently seeing, particularly in a forum that is not open to members only. There are always some asswipe lurkers, who never contribute anything, that take the info and try to get with the ladies favor by telling them who is saying what about them. I am sure we have all been victims of this in the past. If you have not, then you are very lucky. Therefor, I do not discuss names unless I am done seeing them. The one I will give you is Lilbitofun. This is a more mature woman, but she is very, very skilled. A head game second to none and as someone else posted a while ago, can take a pounding. Donation is very reasonable, as also stated. I have moved on to other ladies. As far as the other ones that are on board for that, one is a 40 why / o MILF I was with last week, and the other is a 52 why / o gilf whom I was supposed to see over the weekend but we had to reschedule for the end of this week. Also got a 29 why / o cutie who I have seen once so far for $150. I haven't decided as yet who I will settle in on, if any of them, but I will offer names and reports on the ones I decide not to see anymore. None of these are 10's, 8's at best. But for me, it's about how good they suck and fuck not how good they look. In NY, I was with far too many young 9's and 10's that were pricey and had little to no skills. I just can't do that anymore. You just make them top notch for the next guy while you suffer thru teaching them.

I would hope there is some understanding of why I am doing it this way. Just been burned one too many times. As always, I love being a part of this forum and making a contribution when I can.[/QUOTE]I completely understand your process and if I had limited funds I would be going that route. My sickness is in needing to fuck the hottest ones. I have found a couple of cheap ones along the way which I have shared. I also understand not wanting to give profiles until done I do the same thing after getting burnt. As always when I get intel I will pass along. Hope you didn't take anything the wrong way I just haven't been able to get a truly hot young one under 200. I always target the ones I know are going to take work and money to me that's part of the attraction.

[QUOTE=TellMeWhy;3186818]I completely understand your process and if I had limited funds I would be going that route. My sickness is in needing to fuck the hottest ones. I have found a couple of cheap ones along the way which I have shared. I also understand not wanting to give profiles until done I do the same thing after getting burnt. As always when I get intel I will pass along. Hope you didn't take anything the wrong way I just haven't been able to get a truly hot young one under 200. I always target the ones I know are going to take work and money to me that's part of the attraction.[/QUOTE]More about attitude, personality and how good they suck and fuck not how good they look.

[QUOTE=BraddyWestSide;3185015]Hey Gents,

Was trying the SA thing this spring and had some success. Don't have the time to get fully back in the game, but I was hoping someone might be able to throw me a bone. When I got off site, I was texting with Coven2000 to set up some time. Schedules got in the way and I wound up losing her number due to a phone wipe to mosey SO.

Is there anyone who has her number? I don't know if she's even on the site anymore, but if you can get me in contact with her, I'll be in your debt.

Thanks for the help.

BW.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's gone from the site. Maybe her husband caught her finally. She was making the rounds. A LOT of guys were in that bed. To be honest, she was weird and lacked skills. Saw her once at no cost, then deleted her number.

Hi guys. I don't post often but I have been in the mongering game for more than 30 years. The internet and sites like SA have changed the game totally. Just remember that the person with the dollars (you) is always in control. In my opinion it is a big mistake to pay for meet and greets. Sure, as a gentleman you should pick up the tab for a couple coffees at Starbucks, but that's it.

I keep reading about guys paying the girl $100 or $200 for a meet and greet. That's BS. A lot of those chicks aren't actually fucking anybody -- they are just selling meet and greets. Or they are collecting meet and greet dollars while they fish for the whale who can pay them a $4 K monthly allowance. Don't get suckered by the beauty queens who got game. I have had fabulous experiences on SA and the most I have ever spent is $150. Treat SA like a business and you'll get a lot of bang for your buck. Happy trails.

[QUOTE=CigarFL;3191312]Hi guys. I don't post often but I have been in the mongering game for more than 30 years. The internet and sites like SA have changed the game totally. Just remember that the person with the dollars (you) is always in control. In my opinion it is a big mistake to pay for meet and greets. Sure, as a gentleman you should pick up the tab for a couple coffees at Starbucks, but that's it.

I keep reading about guys paying the girl $100 or $200 for a meet and greet. That's BS. A lot of those chicks aren't actually fucking anybody -- they are just selling meet and greets. Or they are collecting meet and greet dollars while they fish for the whale who can pay them a $4 K monthly allowance. Don't get suckered by the beauty queens who got game. I have had fabulous experiences on SA and the most I have ever spent is $150. Treat SA like a business and you'll get a lot of bang for your buck. Happy trails.[/QUOTE]Agreed. As I tell them, the sugar doesn't start until the panties hit the floor. I don't pay anyone to sit and talk. I have a wife at home I can do that with for free.

[QUOTE=CigarFL;3191312]Hi guys. I don't post often but I have been in the mongering game for more than 30 years. The internet and sites like SA have changed the game totally. Just remember that the person with the dollars (you) is always in control. In my opinion it is a big mistake to pay for meet and greets. Sure, as a gentleman you should pick up the tab for a couple coffees at Starbucks, but that's it.

I keep reading about guys paying the girl $100 or $200 for a meet and greet. That's BS. A lot of those chicks aren't actually fucking anybody -- they are just selling meet and greets. Or they are collecting meet and greet dollars while they fish for the whale who can pay them a $4 K monthly allowance. Don't get suckered by the beauty queens who got game. I have had fabulous experiences on SA and the most I have ever spent is $150. Treat SA like a business and you'll get a lot of bang for your buck. Happy trails.[/QUOTE]200 $ for a meet and greet?? Must be nice to have that kind of money to just throw to a stranger 😂.

I don't usually date black women gave this one a try and STANK PUSSY ALERT. Had to wash my finger 3 times. Had to end sessions and tell her stank pussy as to leave. This has been about 2 months ago.

Greeneyesnymph. Cute girl but wants $400 "to start". NEXT!

Don't waste your dough on m&g!

[QUOTE=CigarFL;3191312]Hi guys. I don't post often but I have been in the mongering game for more than 30 years. The internet and sites like SA have changed the game totally. Just remember that the person with the dollars (you) is always in control. In my opinion it is a big mistake to pay for meet and greets. Sure, as a gentleman you should pick up the tab for a couple coffees at Starbucks, but that's it.

I keep reading about guys paying the girl $100 or $200 for a meet and greet. That's BS. A lot of those chicks aren't actually fucking anybody -- they are just selling meet and greets. Or they are collecting meet and greet dollars while they fish for the whale who can pay them a $4 K monthly allowance. Don't get suckered by the beauty queens who got game. I have had fabulous experiences on SA and the most I have ever spent is $150. Treat SA like a business and you'll get a lot of bang for your buck. Happy trails.[/QUOTE]

So, I was talking with LovelySillk on SA, and come to find out she is a porn star. Yeah, google her. But, be forwarned, she was a ssbbw when she did that stuff. She has lost weight, butturns out she is still a big girl. Plus, she wants much more than I am willing to go. Just goes to show you that you never know who your going to find on there.

Sorry to be a pain guys, but I have never used that place. Looks like I am going to try it next week. Do you have to show I'd when getting a SS? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to answer here.

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;3197976]Sorry to be a pain guys, but I have never used that place. Looks like I am going to try it next week. Do you have to show I'd when getting a SS? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to answer here.[/QUOTE]Geneva is completely discreet no I'd not even your name.

[QUOTE=CircumAl;3198322]Geneva is completely discreet no I'd not even your name.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

Hi All-.

I'm looking to treat myself with a hot firm SA girl.

What I mean by that is that I'm willing to drop a bit more than I normally would (3-4-5) if she is hot as hell and passionate in the sack!

So if you have any recommendations / experience with some who will definitely go for P-2-P Action so I can avoid the phony "courtship" ritual, I'd be most appreciative!!

PM me or whatever you'd like- thanks!