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This Asian lady is a good actress. So has an act to get dinner and some money out of you. That's all though.
You are getting nothing sexual from her. You have been warned.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9534297-8cac-0186-0906-c8a482c70e89[/URL]
[QUOTE=TravelinSD;2884892]I know there has been discussion over guys who overpay and promote the GPS we run into. Here is an example of that. There's an SB I met off SA 3 years ago. We hit it off na saw each other for a few months at $$ per meet. We got to be really close friends and at the same time she decided to go more the pro route. We ended our formal SD / SB relationship, but remained friends. We do get together for a roll in the hay on occasion, plus she gives a killer massage, but mostly just get together for brunch every couple of months.
Anyway, in addition to doing body rubs off BP, she's also still on SA. She related that she just landed this guy that after one M&G just met her for an FC date. The agreed on amount was $400. In her words from a text to me, "I forgot condoms, he didn't have any. Fooled around for like 20 minutes. Was there for not even 2 hrs, $400. I plan on keeping this guy around, LOL".
There are guys out there who apparently have money to burn, LOL.
Good hunting!
Travelin.[/QUOTE]I have no problems with guys that have the money to spend, its a matter of life. What I have problems with is the pros and utr girls on SA that shouldn't be there posin g as sb. These girls take advantage of alot of guys who have no idea that they are professional girls. The biggest problem is the guys who know better and don't review them on the escort thread where they belong or at least post links to these girls.
Other progressive threads like Cincinnati post the sa and BP links.
[QUOTE=FTP1999;2884992]This Asian lady is a good actress. So has an act to get dinner and some money out of you. That's all though.
You are getting nothing sexual from her. You have been warned.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9534297-8cac-0186-0906-c8a482c70e89[/URL][/QUOTE]I think she had Ger radar out. The profile is no longer active and has been deleted.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2885014]I have no problems with guys that have the money to spend, its a matter of life. What I have problems with is the pros and utr girls on SA that shouldn't be there posin g as sb. These girls take advantage of alot of guys who have no idea that they are professional girls. The biggest problem is the guys who know better and don't review them on the escort thread where they belong or at least post links to these girls.
Other progressive threads like Cincinnati post the sa and BP links.[/QUOTE]Not only that, but the pros on the SD sites posing as SBs, and the johns posing as SDs that cater to them, present a potential hazard to SB websites because they are bringing blatant illegal activity and related unwanted attention toward those sites. Not that I think prostitution should even be illegal in the first place, so I'm not passing judgement on that hobby at all, but the SD / SB is something different when done right and I get tired of them being intermingled for the convenience of those that can't be bothered to learn the difference.
There is nothing illegal about an older man providing lifestyle upgrades to a much younger girlfriend, but making specific monetary offers for sex is, and if not controlled will result in complications like credit card payments being made unavailable to the SD sites or the sites being shut down entirely.
When I view the "sugar baby" threads in some of these other cities, I feel like many of them are mostly centered around using the concept of "sugarbabying" as an extension of BP escort hookups, with little differentiation. Tragic.
Richmond is actually only one of many cities I actually schedule SB meets in, and not even one of my primary ones -- I always say anything east of Dallas is fair game for the Lizard But I'm thankful that for whatever reason the Richmond thread seems to have the most solid grasp of the difference between SBs and escorts. We had a little bit of a shakeup a few months back but most of the douche-baggery has either left (or maybe I just don't see them if they are still here because I placed the only 2-3 offenders on my ignore list).
Honestly whether UTR girls fall into the category of threats to SD websites? I don't know... probably not as long as they truly stay off the radar. I personally don't want anything to do with them but if they aren't drawing unwanted attention to an otherwise perfectly legal lifestyle, then I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with high volume girls pretending they are something they are not, just as I have a problem with chicks with dicks pretending they are a chick, but dishonesty is what it is.
I think the problem was solved with 200.
20 would be too easy.
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2883676]Seriously? You solved the 600 new phone request with. 20 phone repair offer. Pretty smart move. Good luck w the weekend FC date.[/QUOTE]
Recently I came across these apps (like Burner, sideline etc.) on Google app store as well as Apple store which claim to provide a separate burner number. Has anyone used these before? Is it truly anonymous or is it just a ruse? If it works then it would be good and remove the cost and effort of keeping a separate phone.
First of all kudos for this(and the SB faq) awesome thread. Its very well laid out with lots of important info and tricks. I have been on SA for a few months but so far it hasn't been any lucky for me and I am wondering if I may need to make modifications to my profile. What do most of you guys mention in "What I am looking for" section of your profile? Right now I have mentioned all those common phrases like someone with chemistry, fun etc. But I am wondering if I should be specific to what I actually need - Physical intimacy (or FC in other words)? I thought mentioning that would turn away the possible SBs as they might thinks it as a risk. And also if I should mention then what would be the best way to phrase it? Any example template would be helpful. You can PM me as well.
[QUOTE=MajorBoy5;2885426]First of all kudos for this(and the SB faq) awesome thread. Its very well laid out with lots of important info and tricks. I have been on SA for a few months but so far it hasn't been any lucky for me and I am wondering if I may need to make modifications to my profile. What do most of you guys mention in "What I am looking for" section of your profile? Right now I have mentioned all those common phrases like someone with chemistry, fun etc. But I am wondering if I should be specific to what I actually need - Physical intimacy (or FC in other words)? I thought mentioning that would turn away the possible SBs as they might thinks it as a risk. And also if I should mention then what would be the best way to phrase it? Any example template would be helpful. You can PM me as well.[/QUOTE]Be urself. Most women on the site understand what is expected of them. Those girls who don't want to be physical usually mention that in their profile. The M / G is the place to discuss the arrangement if you both feel comfortable with it. As far as template or paste and copy messages be urself and put in your profile exactly what your looking for, saves time and doesn't surprise the girl later on.
[QUOTE=MajorBoy5;2885368]Recently I came across these apps (like Burner, sideline etc.) on Google app store as well as Apple store which claim to provide a separate burner number. Has anyone used these before? Is it truly anonymous or is it just a ruse? If it works then it would be good and remove the cost and effort of keeping a separate phone.[/QUOTE]How do you think a free app pays for itself?
[QUOTE=MajorBoy5;2885426]First of all kudos for this(and the SB faq) awesome thread. Its very well laid out with lots of important info and tricks. I have been on SA for a few months but so far it hasn't been any lucky for me and I am wondering if I may need to make modifications to my profile. What do most of you guys mention in "What I am looking for" section of your profile? Right now I have mentioned all those common phrases like someone with chemistry, fun etc. But I am wondering if I should be specific to what I actually need - Physical intimacy (or FC in other words)? I thought mentioning that would turn away the possible SBs as they might thinks it as a risk. And also if I should mention then what would be the best way to phrase it? Any example template would be helpful. You can PM me as well.[/QUOTE]1) There are bones to an approach in the HWG posts, along with others, so kindly collated by JeezLizard in a separate thread. Go to main Richmond page and scroll down to the "USer Blog" section and find the thread titled "Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ" There is several lifetimes of info and advice in there. See the collection under post #3 - all sorts of approaches to choose from.
2) Personally, I would be loath to mention physical intimacy or anything that implies sex. Everyone knows why they are on that site. Problem is that you mention or imply sex for money and in most jurisdictions doing that is a crime. IF local LE is looking to make an example (low probability, however) of a dude they are most likely to seek out those who look like they are requesting sex for money. Always keep the focus on paying for her time and companionship. If you want to be careful, offer her money for some legitimate service like a body rub, dancing, stripping or even reading poetry to you, if that turns you on. Of course if consenting adult happen to engage other activities,it would be hard to prove those activities we contracted for once a legitimate service is involved.
3) There is no "one size fits all" approach to success in this game, be patient as you are on a learning curve, take some time to learn who to approach and who to avoid, give yourself time to find an approach that works for you & your style. If you try a new approach that doesn't seem to work, then make adjustments and try it on another "sample" of girls (5+?
4) If you are so bold perhaps posting the text of your profile here and asking for critiques would, I am sure, get a bunch of responses?
[QUOTE=MajorBoy5;2885426]First of all kudos for this(and the SB faq) awesome thread. Its very well laid out with lots of important info and tricks. I have been on SA for a few months but so far it hasn't been any lucky for me and I am wondering if I may need to make modifications to my profile. What do most of you guys mention in "What I am looking for" section of your profile? Right now I have mentioned all those common phrases like someone with chemistry, fun etc. But I am wondering if I should be specific to what I actually need - Physical intimacy (or FC in other words)? I thought mentioning that would turn away the possible SBs as they might thinks it as a risk. And also if I should mention then what would be the best way to phrase it? Any example template would be helpful. You can PM me as well.[/QUOTE]Game and money is what this is all about. They are inversely proportional. It helps to be attractive to start with. If you read the blogs about Sugar dating the girls all mention disparagingly "gross, fat, ugly old men" as a euphemism for all older SDs -just like we guys talk badly about "SBs" over 40 as fat old hags who are over the hill. Somewhere in the middle is the truth. My point is, if you are unattractive then you are starting behind the 8 ball. If you a \re reasonably attractive and have a picture up then your offer has to be in the ball park. Lots of GPS is around -per the earlier post. If you are a smooth talker and have game -which has to show on your profile, then you will have success. Some SDs -like JeezLizard -seem to have success with minimal investment, but lots of appeal. Others put up bigger bucks to make up for lack of game. Read the entire series carefully and you will see how to word things to at least get in the front door.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2885552]How do you think a free app pays for itself?[/QUOTE]I know there might be charges to use these apps but my major question is that do they work just like a separate burner phone? I mean if they work wouldn't it be better to use them then keep a separate phone (they both may cost the same for operating but keeping a separate phone itself is task if you want to keep it secret maybe from family)?
[QUOTE=MajorBoy5;2885368] If it works then it would be good and remove the cost and effort of keeping a separate phone.[/QUOTE]A burner phone and a GV number are risk management techniques. You decide what risks you are willing to take.
For me the cost of a burner phone $30/ mo is trivial and well worth the expense. My burner phone was created with a "stage name" identity which allows a confirming FB page, etc. On top of that I layer a Google Voice number. If someone gets too obnoxious or crosses the line, I block them on GV first. If a real threat is detected then I dump the GV number and get another one. After that, dump the Burner phone and walk away. That is my level of "risk tolerance" that provides enough distance should I need it.
Of recent I have been thinking of using my prepaid card to buy a paid VPN service to layer on top of all of that. But hey, I'm Tony Montana & Ed Snowden all rolled into one!
So everyone is different and some dudes hobby using their real name and regular cell phone.
You decide.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2885566]1) There are bones to an approach in the HWG posts, along with others, so kindly collated by JeezLizard in a separate thread. Go to main Richmond page and scroll down to the "USer Blog" section and find the thread titled "Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ" There is several lifetimes of info and advice in there. See the collection under post #3 - all sorts of approaches to choose from.[/QUOTE]I would take credit when it truly belongs to me, but in this case I can't -- the guy who did the real work on the FAQ thread and organization is Zcochran00, I only offered to create the thread and try to keep it clear of clutter because I was in such favor of the idea, and because he did not have enough seniority on his user account to do so.
Not sure where that gentleman went, he has not posted in a while, but he did a fantastic job. Maybe we weren't paying him enough and someone else made a better offer? LOL.
I do wish he would return as there is new info being added to the thread as time goes on that would benefit from indexing. New guys coming in owe him a great deal of thanks.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2885622]A burner phone and a GV number are risk management techniques. You decide what risks you are willing to take.
For me the cost of a burner phone $30/ mo is trivial and well worth the expense. My burner phone was created with a "stage name" identity which allows a confirming FB page, etc. On top of that I layer a Google Voice number. If someone gets too obnoxious or crosses the line, I block them on GV first. If a real threat is detected then I dump the GV number and get another one. After that, dump the Burner phone and walk away. That is my level of "risk tolerance" that provides enough distance should I need it.
Of recent I have been thinking of using my prepaid card to buy a paid VPN service to layer on top of all of that. But hey, I'm Tony Montana & Ed Snowden all rolled into one!
So everyone is different and some dudes hobby using their real name and regular cell phone.
You decide.[/QUOTE]I understand your point and I think I will rephrase my words in my earlier post. The cost of keeping the burner phone as well as any app is not an issue for me either. The intention of my post was to know if these apps (these apps claim to provide a separate number like a google voice number. Take one, use it, dump it, take another) provide the same level of anonymity as the burner phones provide? I think keeping a separate burner phone a secret for someone who has friends and family that frequents them often is in itself a task isn't it?
P.S.: I really appreciate your suggestions.