Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Sexbear;3960058]Hey guys,

Been following along, decided it was time to register and post when I have something worth sharing.

One thing I have found, is that it can pay to be a regular at a particular AMP. Once they get to know you, things can open up. I found that happen at a few AMPs. I have been to most of the AMPs in the Arlington area. I look at Rubmaps, and if a place has a lot of reviews, even if I'm not a member of Rubmaps and can't read the reviews, I figure the place is not boring. I've picked up some tips from this site, and thanks for that.[/QUOTE]Great advice, on the flip side of the coin, some places I've gone multiple times and the service never went anywhere above a NOVA. I remember when I first gotten into this monger business I was young and stupid and there was a girl over at palm tree (now called new paradise) where I would go every week. I kept thinking I could get further with every visit. She even made promises that it would happen next time and when next time came it was one excuse after the other. I was stupidly overpaying as well, so don't let an AMP become a money sink, if there's no improvement in service don't waste your money thinking it will change. Got to know when to hold them and know when to fold them.

My experience with older therapists is different.

I saw people in this forum talked good about Rebecca at smile therapy and so I called them up. A deep, coarse voice answered. When I asked for Rebecca, she said just come. I thought she might be the MMS and then I just went over without pressing further if I really goanna get Rebecca or not.

Their location is on the back of an office plaza, facing a pond and wood. I found these AMPs generally all pretty good at picking private spot to avoid prying eyes. As with any suburb office plaza, plenty parking spots.

After standard double door and bell / camera etc, a Korean lady must be in her 50's (at least) opened the door. She had typical big face with flat feature and small eyes. When she started to talk, it's the same raspy voice on the phone. She sounded like been smoking for years and she come with matching dark skin tone that feels like fumigated with smoke.

At this point, I still don't know whether she will be my therapist, or she is the MMS. That time I just started and still very inexperience at this. Now I think about it, there was subtle clues to tell. She wears the jean shorts which seems to be the standard wardrobe for AMP providers. She doesn't have shoes on, but when she walk she pretend to be on high heels.

After she showed me the room and asked if I want the shower, I realized that she was the one goanna do me. I am disappointed with her look and voice, but I am too embarrassed to ask to switch or cancel the whole thing. Or I don't want to hurt her feeling or something. I have always had hard time refusing people, which I would regret many times down the road.

Table shower is good. Shower room also seems newer and nicer, with all the granite dcor. Massage is actually very good. Her hand is hard, may be from years of massage. Her English is bad, can't start a conversation. I think she massaged me a long time, may be 45-50 min.

Then comes the flip. I think I am a visual person and like soft talk. Without all these, I just can't get a hard on. I am way pass the age of just bang anything that moves. There weren't any conversation stimulation either. She tried for quite few minutes, but I am still all quiet down there. She finally got up and said all done. Feels like she wants to wrap the session. But I have not released yet! What do you mean all done? I asked her to put some oil on it and see if that help. She obliged and start work on it again. This time she sped up the up and down motion. But I just don't respond to those and eventually I gave up and told her give it a rest.

Even though there is no NOVA "finish", her massage was good. There wasn't any touching, roaming or seeing any skin, and so I decided to tip 40. When she got the tip, she said "you can give me a massage". It stunted me a bit, obviously she meant "with that sort of tip, you can give me a massage" and she was not happy. I was embarrassed and can only dry laugh and said "my massage won't be as good as you".

If you want legit massage, you might come out happy with this provider on this place. But if you are looking for extra sauce, I suggest try other places or other providers who might have available in this place. Till this days, I have yet to experience the legendary Rebecca. It's also from this experience, I vowed to myself, if you see someone you don't feel right, or you are facing that "should have" moment, you should ask to switch or if they can't switch, just quit. There shouldn't be any consequences. Later, at other place, I insisted on switching, and eventually I got a never married, 20 ish Chinese girl. That will be another story to report.

I also found it's more delicate to handle it if you repeatedly seeing one specific provider.

On one side, the service could not only "not go anywhere above NOVA", it could even drop. I remember with this particular provider, I had great massage, connection and standard nova finish at first. I told her I am willing to pay more for DFK or for her to take top off etc. But she always refuses. Maybe she feels I am just there for the talk and HE, she started slacking on the massage. She used to do deep tissue at first, on subsequent visit she would just put on oil and do some stroke and light touch. Those are much easier to do without spending much energy.

On the other side, there is this expectation service will progress after you seeing one several times, but I actually want to let it stay the same. I am already paying 80+80 for DFK and top off all that. For a little more, I would be able go to those Korean agencies for GFE with nice looking young girls. I don't want to spend more to get more service. One time I asked for BJ, I said I brought 80 tip and she said that's not enough. I pretend that since it's my 1st time with her, I didn't bring more and I am already happy and ok without BJ. Now I am afraid to go back to her, what if she ask "why don't you bring more money, you know I can offer more and you know the price".

With all these complexity, sometimes I feel it's more like handling a relationship with a repeat provider. We went to AMPs to escape the daily suffocating relationship handling family life. I would rather just risk the unknown and go to a new AMP or try a new provider.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;3958640]Just a quick word to offer some advice, for whatever it's worth: [U]Don't be too quick to discount an older provider, even the mamasan[/U], if you happen to draw that straw at an AMP. Although it's not a universal guarantee, trust me when I say that an older AMP woman can give you an experience that the younger ones haven't even learned yet. Older woman aren't every monger's cup of tea, but many other long-time mongers here can back me up on this point. These women might not have. And, in fact, won't have. The nubile bodies of the younger girls. But they usually have a lot more sensuality, fewer inhibitions, and (maybe not surprisingly) a libido that is as strong as that of the younger girls. And, they're also quite flattered when a monger, particularly a younger monger, asks them to provide the session. Think of it from the other way around, how we older mongers seek the PTYs at the AMPs. It's the same with the older AMP girls: They are equally turned on by a younger guy. And if you ever manage to ingratiate yourself with one of these older AMP women, hang onto your seat. You will be treated to some intense and thoroughly enjoyable times. It might take some work and convincing, at first, since many are ashamed that their bodies are no longer sleek and tight. Many who have small tits are shy, believing that American men only want well-endowed girls. So, it's up to you to make them comfortable and convince them that they're just fine the way the are.

I've had a number of older AMP ladies during my mongering times, and to a one they [B]ALL[/B] gave me fantastic experiences. When I was in my mid-30's, there was one gal who owned the AMP that I used to frequent. She took a shine to me at some point, and whenever I would show up it was a 50-50 toss-up (which eventually got closer to 90-10) as to whether she would take care of me or hand me off to one of the younger therapists. At the time she was in her late 50's, something I was later able to confirm through other means. For the first couple sessions, things were Standard NoVa. But with the third and every subsequent session with her, it was no holds barred. And the sessions [U]never[/U] ended at 60 minutes. Yes, she was probably 20-30 pounds overweight, her tits were droopy, and she was not as tight as a 20-year old, but she was very responsive and would often cowgirl the heck out me (unless she wanted the experience of deep penetration that mish offers). Eventually, she decided to retire and closed her shop.

I also had another gal who used to manage (didn't own) one AMP but also worked at another AMP of the same owner, who also knew me. When I first approached her (at the first AMP) about taking care of me, she replied, "[I]But I old lady, honey[/I]. " (She was early 50's.) I assured her that she wasn't old in my view, but she still demurred. This gal eventually disappeared from the first AMP, and I was not aware she was at another nearby AMP. Sometime later, when I'd gotten to know the owner, the owner informed me that this gal was at the other AMP and had actually asked about me. Well, [U]that[/U] was interesting news. I paid a visit to the second AMP and, lo and behold! She was the one who came to the door to greet me. After the preliminaries, she took me to the TS room in back and gave me a very nice scrub down. Then, after she was finished, she began administering a BBBJ. Yes, in the TS room. I decided to test my luck and asked if she'd ever "done it" in the shower. She left for a moment without saying a thing, leaving me laying on the shower table with the water running, and returned about 30 seconds later. Still without saying a single word, she climbed onto the table and mounted me. After about 30 seconds, she climbed off, turned the water off, helped dry me off, and took me to the room. For the next 45 minutes, it was Shangri-La. The same was true on subsequent visits. (This AMP also closed in the midst of the 2012 fears among AMP owners in the NoVA area, and I lost touch with her afterwards. She, too, was no looker. Not ugly or homely, just not a looker, probably also about 20 pounds overweight and 32-B upstairs. But she more than compensated for it in many other ways.).

These are just two of many experiences, but they serve to highlight the possibilities of getting to know older AMP women. And, there's another benefit: They will introduce you to their girlfriends at the AMP, so that when they are busy, the girlfriend will know how to handle you. Moreover, if the woman is the MMS or owner, you're often golden. The only thing to remember to do is to treat them well and with respect. Don't reveal secrets, and bring them small gifts on occasion. (I used to bring things like one of those shrimp-and-cocktail sauce dishes from Giant, or a box of pastries from a local bakery. And, at Christmas and Chinese New Year, I'd bring some small but tasteful gifts that they could use or enjoy. Eventually, whenever I'd visit, they would haul me into the office, where they had their sofas, etc. , and chat for a while until one of the girls would say something like "[I]My turn. Let's go.[/I]" If you ever get to the point where they trust you to come and sit with them in the office, even at busy times, you are in like Flynn. Trust me. And from then on, it's all up to you.).

So, in conclusion and just as a word for what it's worth: Don't discount the older AMP girls, or even (or especially) the MMS or owner if you're ever so lucky. There is sometimes a [U]lower[/U] age limit to the guy with whom an older AMP gal will want to deal with. But otherwise, unless you're an immature or overly aggressive or grabby sort, you'll have some very memorable times if you're willing to swing with a lady who might be as much as 25 years your senior. If you can be open-minded and put your prejudices on hold, a lot of doors can open up for you. Just sayin'. And, as another member here advises: "[i]Always be kind to ([u]all[/u]) the ladies.[/i]"

Roman[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice Roman. As you can probably tell, I am on the younger side so I am seeking out to have a young therapist. I do not doubt what you are saying whatsoever. I just have never had the experience of someone near my age providing the massage. I may come to 100% agree with you but until I get a young girl massaging me, I will never truly know. Like I mentioned in my post, the best one I received thus far was definitely from a mamasan.

Regardless, thank you for the advice and basically dream examples.

Made the drive out to Arlington on my lunch break since I saw the place was back open. Bella is gone and the place seems to be under new management. Very kind gals, all's bit long in the tooth, but that seems what's hot right now on the board is the golden oldies.

Today I saw Jenny, older k girl, but really nice. Body wasn't bad for her age. Probably ona nova AMP scale is a 5 or 6. I'm a solid 1 or 2 myself.

I actually skipped the body massage and asked for a certain muscle to be worked on. She didn't mind and gave a nice massage in that certain area. After about 20 minutes of this, I was like how about we hear some Frank Sinatra. She said not anymore, but next time if you bring your own Frank Sinatra Cd she would be happy to sing along.

Things finished up with her showing me her Russian language skills. After I yelled Putin! I left and cleaned up.

Place seemed the same after the "remodeling". Anyway nice ladies just not for me anymore. I'm going to try a place one of our gentle mongers pm me about. So next week another review.

Mongers are people too.

[QUOTE=VaPlay;3960737]Never carry more than what you want to spend. Never bring belongings that you don't want to loose. Not just for AMP's but anywhere you wish to play. I had a provider steal the gold chain off my neck while she was riding me, never forgot that one. In the heat of the moment anything can and will happen. You won't realize it until the euphoria wears off.[/QUOTE]I disagree. A few years back when I first started I was visiting someone in an apartment complex. I left my wallet and phone in the car. Came out fifteen minutes later and my car was gone along with my wallet and phone. It had been towed. Thank God the girl took pity on me and let me back in, and then bore with me while I called the tow place to verify where my car was and then a cab driver. And thank God the cabbie trusted me to go get my car and then pay him. Scary couple of hours. Never need to relive again. I always keep my phone and wallet with me now.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;3958640]Just a quick word to offer some advice, for whatever it's worth: [U]Don't be too quick to discount an older provider, even the mamasan[/U], if you happen to draw that straw at an AMP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrWilson898;3961443]Thanks for the advice Roman. As you can probably tell, I am on the younger side so I am seeking out to have a young therapist. I do not doubt what you are saying whatsoever. I just have never had the experience of someone near my age providing the massage. I may come to 100% agree with you but until I get a young girl massaging me, I will never truly know. Like I mentioned in my post, the best one I received thus far was definitely from a mamasan.[/QUOTE]I hear you, Wilson; I completely understand your desires for a young therapist. And I'm not saying you [U]shouldn't[/U] seek that out, either. I could relate some stories of PYTs that curled my toes. However, what I [U]am[/U] saying is this: I would've [u]loved[/u] it had someone given me such advice with regard older AMP ladies, when I was much younger and new to this game.

You can always find a young chick, but you're [U]not[/U] always going to be young and able to enjoy a woman who is older than you. (I eventually discovered this on my own while I was still young-ish, and the experience rocked my world. I didn't always seek out older ladies afterwards, but the experience changed my perspective on things and opened up an entirely new and previously unappreciated horizon. That's why I posted my earlier comments, mainly for the younger mongers, such as yourself.)

So, before you get to the point where a lady 15-20 years older than you means a gal in her 70's, I'd urge you to explore the possibilities. If you're in your 30's (or, even better, still in your 20's), try to find a gal who is in her 50's, just to see what some of us are talking about. Once you find that particular gal, you [u]won't[/u] be disappointed. And, as I also mentioned, there are side benefits to this in terms of other girls she can introduce you to.

Roman.

So, before you get to the point where a lady 15-20 years older than you means a gal in her 70's, I'd urge you to explore the possibilities. If you're in your 30's (or, even better, still in your 20's), try to find a gal who is in her 50's, just to see what some of us are talking about. Once you find that particular gal, you won't be disappointed. And, as I also mentioned, there are side benefits.

Roman.

Roman is absolutely correct; and I speak from experience as well with regard to Roman's observation. And if I may add, there is another benefit to consider as well. Older ladies:

(1) don't yell.

(2) don't swell.

(3) are grateful as hell.

I've never been to a AMP so have no idea how it works and how much one is expected to pay for "extras". Can someone give me advise on what I can expect from the ladies and how much it would cost me. I'm really only looking for hand work as I can't get erections and I'm not really into BJ's very much.

[QUOTE=GlennJ58;3962182]I've never been to a AMP so have no idea how it works and how much one is expected to pay for "extras". Can someone give me advise on what I can expect from the ladies and how much it would cost me. I'm really only looking for hand work as I can't get erections and I'm not really into BJ's very much.[/QUOTE]Is to read the forum (RTFF). You can also search using keywords like tipping, etc.

Any reports on CS. I searched couldn't find anything. I have another appt Monday in same building, might want to take an extra long lunch. If I don't hear anything I'll TOFTT and report back.

[QUOTE=GlennJ58;3962182]I've never been to a AMP so have no idea how it works and how much one is expected to pay for "extras". Can someone give me advise on what I can expect from the ladies and how much it would cost me. I'm really only looking for hand work as I can't get erections and I'm not really into BJ's very much.[/QUOTE]You've come to the right place, Glenn. In addition to the replies you get here, take a moment and go back about a year in this forum and read the posts from that point forward. Don't neglect doing your homework; it's important. And, the more homework you do, the chances of a good experience [U]increase[/U] and the likelihood of a negative experience [U]lessens[/U].

Basically, when you visit an AMP, you'll be met at the entrance by either the Mamasan (manager) or one of the therapists (probably the one who will be taking care of you). She'll either collect the house fee there, or take you to the room and collect it there. (The fee will vary, depending on whether you want a half-hour or an hour session. In this area, a half-hour is 40 or 50 dollars; an hour is 60 or 80. Your therapist will (usually) ask you if you want a shower and tell you to get undressed. You can decline the shower, but it's better to accept. She'll probably leave the room for a moment while you're getting ready, and then return to either take you to the shower (or to just begin the massage, in the event you decline the shower).

With you lying face down, the therapist will employ acupressure techniques on all your muscles, from head to toe. Sometime around the 40-minute mark, she'll ask you to "[I]turn over[/I]" so that you're now lying on your back. She'll perform some additional massage-like techniques for a brief amount of time. Then, she'll dim the lights a little further and either ask if you want anything else. For what you're seeking, the tip amount will be 40 to 60, depending on the specifics. (Generally, tipping should occur at the end of the session and not be something that interrupts the flow of the session.) Afterwards, she'll probably bring you a hot towel and clean you up, removing any remaining massage oil. Then, once you're dressed and have given her the tip, she'll walk you to the exit and tell you to come back soon.

That's about the extent of it. If you have any more questions, feel free to post them [U]but be sure to read the forum (RTFF) beforehand[/U]. Other members on this forum can offer additional comments and suggestions, as well, but this is the basic outline. Now, go have fun, but be careful and stay safe.

Roman.

[QUOTE=ReiHaragoma;3962162]So, before you get to the point where a lady 15-20 years older than you means a gal in her 70's, I'd urge you to explore the possibilities. If you're in your 30's (or, even better, still in your 20's), try to find a gal who is in her 50's, just to see what some of us are talking about. Once you find that particular gal, you won't be disappointed. And, as I also mentioned, there are side benefits.

Roman.

Roman is absolutely correct; and I speak from experience as well with regard to Roman's observation. And if I may add, there is another benefit to consider as well. Older ladies:

(1) don't yell.

(2) don't swell.

(3) are grateful as hell.[/QUOTE]Providers 15-20 years older than me are generally, ummm, 10 years retired There is a saying, which I'll paraphrase (if anyone knows its origin, please fill us in): "The best thing about 18 yr olds? They are always 18. " Same can be said here. It isn't that the therapist has to be 15-20 years older than YOU, but 15-20 years older than the 25 yr old you saw last time.

That 40-55 yr old MMS will always be 40-55 - but she may have once been that 25 yr old you saw all those years ago.

BSOT.

Stoop.

Thanks for the help. I'm really only looking for a handjob so that seems like an expensive way to go just for that. I might have to go the SW route.

[QUOTE=HotPatatoe1972;3962366]Any reports on CS. I searched couldn't find anything. I have another appt Monday in same building, might want to take an extra long lunch. If I don't hear anything I'll TOFTT and report back.[/QUOTE]High probability of standard nova a ailable there but nothing more.

YMMV.