Korean Agency BB

[QUOTE=TempletonRat;6085854]Don't know why a booker would be snarky or rude. It's like the easiest job ever. They don't got to fuck rando mongers.[/QUOTE]There's definitely particular bookers that are rude. So that I could choose which girl to book, I asked the booker 1 question if her pictures were real. The booker replied don't ask my any questions just book. I don't think I was asking for too much. So I decided to call a different booker. If they hate their job that much they should quit and find something else.

Same experience here. The old 2 pop booker, or now 40 model is a complete ass. He's rude and really should consider a different job. This consistent feedback is coming from multiple people on this forum. Vote with your wallet.

[QUOTE=BobLove;6084545]That booker was so rude that even he has to rebrand.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayKay213;6085966]There's definitely particular bookers that are rude. So that I could choose which girl to book, I asked the booker 1 question if her pictures were real. The booker replied don't ask my any questions just book. I don't think I was asking for too much. So I decided to call a different booker. If they hate their job that much they should quit and find something else.[/QUOTE]Some bookers don't even know what the girls even look like (this I know for sure), and they don't want you to know that they don't know, so maybe that's why they answer like that. But yes, there's no reason for them to be rude.

[QUOTE=Member#2210;6086184]Some bookers don't even know what the girls even look like (this I know for sure), and they don't want you to know that they don't know, so maybe that's why they answer like that. But yes, there's no reason for them to be rude.[/QUOTE]Booker Grey is shitty, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't a boss's dipshit son.

[QUOTE=PussyDestroyr;6086242]Booker Grey is shitty, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't a boss's dipshit son.[/QUOTE]Male bookers not as efficient / customer friendly as female ones in general.

[QUOTE=Member#2210;6086184]Some bookers don't even know what the girls even look like (this I know for sure), and they don't want you to know that they don't know, so maybe that's why they answer like that. But yes, there's no reason for them to be rude.[/QUOTE]This love / hate relationship between procurers and clients has likely been around as long as the profession itself.

As volatile as it may be, it reminds me of the 'Soup Nazi' episode of Seinfeld, where George represents an inquisitive hobbyist. And despite his good intentions, ends up wearing out his welcome at a new soup stand, and is infamously told "No soup for you!

A less dated reference would be the 'Farm' episode of Portlandia, where hobbyists are represented by Peter and Nance, as they go to absurd lengths to learn more about the care and well-being of the chicken they'll be eating for lunch.

MKG Cali (aka Nicky), touted as the [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=5955695&viewfull=1#post5955695]tightest[/url][/B] [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=5964527&viewfull=1#post5964527]pussy[/url][/B] in [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=5965541&viewfull=1#post5965541]LA[/url][/B], might be back. Pepsi's Palace is advertising a Brandi who is using the same pics as MKG Cali.

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[QUOTE=GG1234;6086278]MKG Cali (aka Nicky), touted as the [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=5955695&viewfull=1#post5955695]tightest[/url][/B] [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=5964527&viewfull=1#post5964527]pussy[/url][/B] in [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=5965541&viewfull=1#post5965541]LA[/url][/B], might be back.[/QUOTE]Potentially. She's still listed in Vegas as Jia CLL.

[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6085691]If? I thought we crossed that bridge a while back. If you disagree, just wait for dudes getting nostalgic over the good ol days. Its like clockwork.[/QUOTE]This is kinda reason why I say please treat Erica right. Even if it can change one person, I would take it. A lot of mongers, I feel like, are treating k-girls as items instead of human beings. K-girls should be able to do this and that. Most can't handle rough fucking. Most can't handle western size dicks. I want Erica to stay here for a long time because she's great. But I feel after few weeks of being runned over by trains, she's going to quit. If my comment can change one person then it's one less reason for Erica to quit. I feel like LA could be k-girl scene heaven if most mongers saw them as humans instead of products. A lot of kgirls quit because LA is way too demanding.

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[QUOTE=LilDuk;6086330]This is kinda reason why I say please treat Erica right. Even if it can change one person, I would take it. A lot of mongers, I feel like, are treating k-girls as items instead of human beings. K-girls should be able to do this and that. Most can't handle rough fucking. Most can't handle western size dicks. I want Erica to stay here for a long time because she's great. But I feel after few weeks of being runned over by trains, she's going to quit. If my comment can change one person then it's one less reason for Erica to quit. I feel like LA could be k-girl scene heaven if most mongers saw them as humans instead of products. A lot of kgirls quit because LA is way too demanding.[/QUOTE]These girls are 100% transactional, or at least they become so if they do it long enough. That's the nature of this profession they have chosen, and the good ones are actresses able to sus you out within minutes and act accordingly. Erica probably determined you are a gentle cuddle buddy type and gave you that service. The next guy comes in and she determines he is out to fuck like he is making a porno and she provides that service. Basically, you sound like you are begging guys not to fuck your old girlfriend hard because you are still in love with her.

Does Erica rim?

Otherwise who are people's go tos for good rimming, especially on the west side if possible? Other than Stella of course.

I've been trying out different agencies and when they ask for references, I provide the ones I have used before. When I mentioned one of the agencies, they quickly texted me saying to not use them as a reference as I haven't visited them in a while. Anyone received this type of treatment before?

[QUOTE=LC310;6086924]These girls are 100% transactional, or at least they become so if they do it long enough. That's the nature of this profession they have chosen, and the good ones are actresses able to sus you out within minutes and act accordingly. Erica probably determined you are a gentle cuddle buddy type and gave you that service. The next guy comes in and she determines he is out to fuck like he is making a porno and she provides that service. Basically, you sound like you are begging guys not to fuck your old girlfriend hard because you are still in love with her.[/QUOTE]Exactly these chicks are there for one thing easy money.

And suckers fall for it. Men need to realize stop falling for them because she don't like her customers.

As long as we treat them right respect them they will give us the service we want.

[QUOTE=LC310;6086924]These girls are 100% transactional, or at least they become so if they do it long enough. That's the nature of this profession they have chosen, and the good ones are actresses able to sus you out within minutes and act accordingly. Erica probably determined you are a gentle cuddle buddy type and gave you that service. The next guy comes in and she determines he is out to fuck like he is making a porno and she provides that service. Basically, you sound like you are begging guys not to fuck your old girlfriend hard because you are still in love with her.[/QUOTE]Nah. If you view these girls as 100% transactional then you view sex workers as just garbage. Seeing you guys complain about good old days makes me puke when you guys only see k-girls as products and nothing more. This is reason why younger and hotter k-girls would rather go to bay area than here. At this point, you burned the bridge down. There's no point in k-girls scene improving in LA.

I agree. This is transactional and this is a hobby. Mongers come in all different colors and sizes. There are pedos, freaks, abusers, sex addict, alcoholics, and druggies all mixed along with tech bros and doctors. Dudes with them 10 inch bats come to this hobby because their wife find them painful but a ho can take care of his need because it's a service. In Asian counties, this is viewed as a pleasure business. Then they go home after to their wives and family to face reality. This hobby has always been this way. High end hoes, streetwalker, AMPs, Corg, korgs, europeas, Latinas are all the same. The only difference is price, service, environment, and body type. Some bros like them skinny as hell and pubescent like and then others want them with fat cake booties and belly rolls. You ever hear of the hood casitas? That shit is something else. There are dudes on this forum also talking about BJs from homeless drug addicts in a tent. I try to be nice to all kgirls and many times tip them a little extra but at the end of the day, I want their goods and they want my money. Any further and things get more complicated. Been there done that. Erica and all the others come here to make money. That is why she went to a korg. She had a choice and I don't blame her. I wish her bank account to be fat but she will have to handle the Ds like the legends if she wants the fat account.

When mongers try to take the business further and let feelings get the best, it often leads to issues and disappointments. Just yesterday someone asked about a girl named Yuuka from Peach org and a monger responded about her issue. Ends up she was rebranded as Hannie / Hanii / Hani here. Long time kgirl and she met a boyfriend in LA. Something about him wanting her to get a tit job because her business was slow. Some drama or a botched surgery and she left the US. Caring too much about them leads to this. If she would have never met that dude she would still be working. Viewing them as a ho simply leads to keeping this hobby alive. Would you want you mom, daughter or wife to be a HO? Most wouldn't LOL. So yea its a business and let's leave it at that. The bookers job is to keep idiots away but they can only do their best.

[QUOTE=PussyDestroyr;6086242]Booker Grey is shitty, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't a boss's dipshit son.[/QUOTE]LOL you already know one of these is a spoiled brat. Lucky him he gets to try the merchandise early.

So I ain't hating am jealous LOL.

[QUOTE=GoldDust58;6087182]I agree. This is transactional and this is a hobby. Mongers come in all different colors and sizes. There are pedos, freaks, abusers, sex addict, alcoholics, and druggies all mixed along with tech bros and doctors. Dudes with them 10 inch bats come to this hobby because their wife find them painful but a ho can take care of his need because it's a service. In Asian counties, this is viewed as a pleasure business. Then they go home after to their wives and family to face reality. This hobby has always been this way. High end hoes, streetwalker, AMPs, Corg, korgs, europeas, Latinas are all the same. The only difference is price, service, environment, and body type. Some bros like them skinny as hell and pubescent like and then others want them with fat cake booties and belly rolls. You ever hear of the hood casitas? That shit is something else. There are dudes on this forum also talking about BJs from homeless drug addicts in a tent. I try to be nice to all kgirls and many times tip them a little extra but at the end of the day, I want their goods and they want my money. Any further and things get more complicated. Been there done that. Erica and all the others come here to make money. That is why she went to a korg. She had a choice and I don't blame her. I wish her bank account to be fat but she will have to handle the Ds like the legends if she wants the fat account.

When mongers try to take the business further and let feelings get the best, it often leads to issues and disappointments. Just yesterday someone asked about a girl named Yuuka from Peach org and a monger responded about her issue. Ends up she was rebranded as Hannie / Hanii / Hani here. Long time kgirl and she met a boyfriend in LA. Something about him wanting her to get a tit job because her business was slow. Some drama or a botched surgery and she left the US. Caring too much about them leads to this. If she would have never met that dude she would still be working. Viewing them as a ho simply leads to keeping this hobby alive. Would you want you mom, daughter or wife to be a HO? Most wouldn't LOL. So yea its a business and let's leave it at that. The bookers job is to keep idiots away but they can only do their best.[/QUOTE]I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.

Let's hope this trend continues. Bitna was a pretty solid addition to the price tier and now we have Erica. I have not gotten a time yet with Erica but I will in the next couple of days. From what it seems, both are solid additions to the west side. Keep them busy and I'm sure more will come. 320 for the win bros. Kgirls will hear rumors of socal back to being busy and I think we'll see more 320 offerings return.

[QUOTE=GoldDust58;6087182]I agree. This is transactional and this is a hobby. Mongers come in all different colors and sizes. There are pedos, freaks, abusers, sex addict, alcoholics, and druggies all mixed along with tech bros and doctors. Dudes with them 10 inch bats come to this hobby because their wife find them painful but a ho can take care of his need because it's a service. In Asian counties, this is viewed as a pleasure business. Then they go home after to their wives and family to face reality. This hobby has always been this way. High end hoes, streetwalker, AMPs, Corg, korgs, europeas, Latinas are all the same. The only difference is price, service, environment, and body type. Some bros like them skinny as hell and pubescent like and then others want them with fat cake booties and belly rolls. You ever hear of the hood casitas? That shit is something else. There are dudes on this forum also talking about BJs from homeless drug addicts in a tent. I try to be nice to all kgirls and many times tip them a little extra but at the end of the day, I want their goods and they want my money. Any further and things get more complicated. Been there done that. Erica and all the others come here to make money. That is why she went to a korg. She had a choice and I don't blame her. I wish her bank account to be fat but she will have to handle the Ds like the legends if she wants the fat account.

When mongers try to take the business further and let feelings get the best, it often leads to issues and disappointments. Just yesterday someone asked about a girl named Yuuka from Peach org and a monger responded about her issue. Ends up she was rebranded as Hannie / Hanii / Hani here. Long time kgirl and she met a boyfriend in LA. Something about him wanting her to get a tit job because her business was slow. Some drama or a botched surgery and she left the US. Caring too much about them leads to this. If she would have never met that dude she would still be working..[/QUOTE]Precisely! Think of K Girl as a steakhouse. Sometimes you get Ruth ad sometimes you get Outback; In each case, you typically eat your food and choose to comeback or leave and while you may file complaint to the management for bad food, bad service or dirty plate, you don't want make a drama out of it or be a total ass with you server.

Take it easy on girls. They are human after all. Enjoy the hobbying as you don't know when it all can come to sudden ends for you.

[QUOTE=LilDuk;6087219]I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.[/QUOTE]New girls like Erica and Bitna will only stay if they are slammed busy. This is why girls go to NorCal first because they're booked solid for weeks often. Cara, LSC, Viola, etc keep new girls flowing because mongers can't stop coming. All for the low price of 260-280. Mongers can afford to still go 4-5 times a week at those rates.

Dallas and East coast area stay busy due to low availability but mongers get bored faster. NorCal and Socal has many options but NorCal is just busier for good girls. Plus the dudes there are constantly buying them designer garb. Save so much you can afford to buy them Cartier. Kidding lol

[QUOTE=LilDuk;6087219]I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.[/QUOTE]Garbage? Cool story, brah.

I have heard from two different K-girls that SoCal makes them nervous because of the size of the Korean population and the chance they may get found out.

Look at the population of Koreans in California by county and do a risk assessment on where you would want to work and not be found out, but there are also clients with money.

Guys are guys wherever they work from cuddle bunnies to bat swinging pornstar wannabes. They know the deal and they know that the way to the fattest bank account is being a good actress and making everyone feel they got what they came for and hopefully returns as it is the easiest way to reduce their work stress and know what they are going to earn. A girl with 100 once a month clients knows minimum earnings and what to prepare for with each session. That's a lot less stressful than each client being a mystery and potentially a one and done.

Bottom line is that they are independent contract-ish workers for an agency and they need to manage their risk (physical/mental/emotional/etc) while maximizing their earnings.

[QUOTE=LC310;6087266]Garbage? Cool story, brah.

I have heard from two different K-girls that SoCal makes them nervous because of the size of the Korean population and the chance they may get found out.

Look at the population of Koreans in California by county and do a risk assessment on where you would want to work and not be found out, but there are also clients with money.

Guys are guys wherever they work from cuddle bunnies to bat swinging pornstar wannabes. They know the deal and they know that the way to the fattest bank account is being a good actress and making everyone feel they got what they came for and hopefully returns as it is the easiest way to reduce their work stress and know what they are going to earn. A girl with 100 once a month clients knows minimum earnings and what to prepare for with each session. That's a lot less stressful than each client being a mystery and potentially a one and done.

Bottom line is that they are independent contract-ish workers for an agency and they need to manage their risk (physical/mental/emotional/etc) while maximizing their earnings.[/QUOTE]These k-girls barely care about korean population in LA. My friend owns the spa most of them frequents they openly talk about their work. If clients speak Korean, most of them like it because it means they can shorten the fucking and stretch the talking. Most of them leave LA scene due to lack of business and stress. Who would want to work in a city where most mongers don't tip and want bb, wild fucking, pretty face, spinner body, etc. They would rather go to norcal where tech mongers are loaded to the teeth and can tip generously.

K-girls don't move to bay area because they are afraid of being found out. Most Koreans turn blind eye on sex workers in Korean red districts. We don't really care. Sex work was a big part of korean history ( 기생). K-Girls want to stay in LA because there is big korean community here. Food culture is prolly most important reason why you don't see k-girls in middle of US. Most of k-girls are in heavily populated Korean community. But in the end, they move away to bay area where they can make more money and have less stress. Bay area community doesn't demand bb. K girls just happen to offer it more because they know that these bay area whales will buy them all the things they want. In LA, most mongers aren't whales and they complain whenever there is upcharge.

[QUOTE=LilDuk;6087219]I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.[/QUOTE]I'm going to try to add something but other posters have posted quite well on some things I wanted to say. You have some misguided notion that these girls are delicate flowers whom cannot defend nor think for themselves. What you are doing is the classic captain save-a-hoe™. These girls all play an act and want to maximize how much they can extract from mongers. All these girls who work here make the conscious choice to be in this industry knowing full well of the potential problems and dangers. If mongers here are as dangerous and rough as you'd like to believe, the reputation would be well known and no girl would work in LA. FOSTA + Covid put a dent in quality girls being around in general. I don't remember the issue of "rough guys" being a problem pre 2018. Sure it happens, but it isn't some epidemic. The reason why we complain is because some of us have been doing this for awhile and noticed drastic decrease in quality of the girls that have popped up in recent years. It's a cocktail of crap from rebrands of less desirable providers, older women, price increases that does not lead to better service but just more money extracted from the monger. I'd post more but no one wants to read a novel on a hoe forum.

Here's the definition of a white knight. I've posted the link only once awhile ago when we had a spat with those idiots at TER.

"White knightism manifests itself in a variety of ways, but probably the most common manifestation is running to the "protection" or "defense"—of usually a stranger—just because she's female, with little or no consideration other factors. Online, that often translates into attacking another guy when you think he's unfairly criticized or "bullied" a girl, or a certain group of women. The key part is that you're standing up for what's essentially a complete stranger because she's a woman and therefore, in your eyes, defenseless. Hence the name. You're the knight in shining armor coming to the rescue of a damsel in distress. ".

Don't fall in love with the sex workers.

That is all.

[QUOTE=TheAbc;6087304]I'm going to try to add something but other posters have posted quite well on some things I wanted to say. You have some misguided notion that these girls are delicate flowers whom cannot defend nor think for themselves. What you are doing is the classic captain save-a-hoe. These girls all play an act and want to maximize how much they can extract from mongers. All these girls who work here make the conscious choice to be in this industry knowing full well of the potential problems and dangers. If mongers here are as dangerous and rough as you'd like to believe, the reputation would be well known and no girl would work in LA. FOSTA + Covid put a dent in quality girls being around in general. I don't remember the issue of "rough guys" being a problem pre 2018. Sure it happens, but it isn't some epidemic. The reason why we complain is because some of us have been doing this for awhile and noticed drastic decrease in quality of the girls that have popped up in recent years. It's a cocktail of crap from rebrands of less desirable providers, older women, price increases that does not lead to better service but just more money extracted from the monger. I'd post more but no one wants to read a novel on a hoe forum.

Here's the definition of a white knight. I've posted the link only once awhile ago when we had a spat with those idiots at TER.

"White knightism manifests itself in a variety of ways, but probably the most common manifestation is running to the "protection" or "defense"of usually a strangerjust because she's female, with little or no consideration other factors. Online, that often translates into attacking another guy when you think he's unfairly criticized or "bullied" a girl, or a certain group of women. The key part is that you're standing up for what's essentially a complete stranger because she's a woman and therefore, in your eyes, defenseless. Hence the name. You're the knight in shining armor coming to the rescue of a damsel in distress. ".[/QUOTE]You can call it white knighting. I call it at least giving some rights to sex workers. Most mongers view them as sex toys then complain afterwards. I've seen this before 2020 on this thread. There are many posts about good old days when that site was still up. A lot of services provided today weren't standard back in the days. Mongers really had to earn it by repeating visits. Pandemic did hit new k-girls coming into LA but the complaints about lack of quality was still there before it. You can search this forum and there were plenty of posts complaining upcharge for bb and lack of good quality k-girls.

Try treating sex workers like humans first then you can get everything you want. They will stop upcharging you or straight up refusing you. Mongers these days are refusing to work for free services because they would rather pay money. I wonder why k-girls are trying to extract money through upcharges. If k-girls are into you, they won't really ask you to pay money. A lot of k-girls I met tend to ask me out on dates and they pay for the entire date. The k-girl scene is somewhat alive but most mongers don't really want to put in time and money. They rather want hos on the side and hos do what all hos do. Ask for more money.

[QUOTE=LilDuk;6087347]You can call it white knighting. I call it at least giving some rights to sex workers. Most mongers view them as sex toys then complain afterwards. I've seen this before 2020 on this thread. There are many posts about good old days when that site was still up. A lot of services provided today weren't standard back in the days. Mongers really had to earn it by repeating visits. Pandemic did hit new k-girls coming into LA but the complaints about lack of quality was still there before it. You can search this forum and there were plenty of posts complaining upcharge for bb and lack of good quality k-girls.

Try treating sex workers like humans first then you can get everything you want. They will stop upcharging you or straight up refusing you. Mongers these days are refusing to work for free services because they would rather pay money. I wonder why k-girls are trying to extract money through upcharges. If k-girls are into you, they won't really ask you to pay money. A lot of k-girls I met tend to ask me out on dates and they pay for the entire date. The k-girl scene is somewhat alive but most mongers don't really want to put in time and money. They rather want hos on the side and hos do what all hos do. Ask for more money.[/QUOTE]You're not going to be able to will the Kgirl scene in LA into what you want it to be by projecting with comments all your frankly juvenile feelings about the girls and the guys that are their clients.

I suggest you establish some non sex worker female relationships. It will do you good.

[QUOTE=LC310;6087367]You're not going to be able to will the Kgirl scene in LA into what you want it to be by projecting with comments all your frankly juvenile feelings about the girls and the guys that are their clients. I suggest you establish some non sex worker female relationships. It will do you good.[/QUOTE]LOL ok. Think what you want. I'm just stating my peace of mind after years of seeing posts on how k-girl scene in LA is dying and how at least respecting human boundaries is somekind of white knighting.

Like most things in life, it's not "either or," but rather "both. " That is, I see this hobby a transaction *and* one where two people have the potential to reduce each other to mere objects: Pussy and money. Right or wrong, that's just the way it is.

Considering the lack of parity between markets, I'd hate to see us compound a litany of reasons for kgirls to look elsewhere. So I don't hold it against anyone for erring on the side of caution in that regard.

"We lost another kgirl because we were too gentle," said no one ever.

[QUOTE=Panda1203;6087043]I've been trying out different agencies and when they ask for references, I provide the ones I have used before. When I mentioned one of the agencies, they quickly texted me saying to not use them as a reference as I haven't visited them in a while. Anyone received this type of treatment before?[/QUOTE]I haven't heard of getting that type of response from a booking you are using as a reference before. Usually, at least when I need to, I let the booker know ahead of time that I am using them as a reference. This establishes two things: 1) the other party is Ok with it (I move on to another if they aren't) and 2) quicker response between bookers as the aren't blind sighted by it. You can remedy your situation by seeing a girl from the booker and try again later. With how the current scene is flooded with a bunch of girls now, I can understand bookers not wanting clients to migrate to other agencies.

Does anyone know if any girl or agency have cosplays, uniforms or similar?

[QUOTE=LilDuk;6087400]LOL ok. Think what you want. I'm just stating my peace of mind after years of seeing posts on how k-girl scene in LA is dying and how at least respecting human boundaries is somekind of white knighting.[/QUOTE]I doubt you'll read it, maybe at most click on the link then leave the site. The choice is yours if you want to continue on with how you think. I'll be nice and throw you a bone. Maybe someone who lurks will benefit and see a different corner of the world much less known.

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[QUOTE=LilDuk;6087219]I'm literally only saying this because you guys constantly complain how today kgirl scene is lacking. I know most mongers won't even view sex workers as human beings. K-girls like Erica are here solely for money, not sex. At the same time, we all want more girls like Erica. Being at least understanding that these k-girls may not satisfy all your needs is better than being a total dick. At the end, idrc if you guys rip her in half. If you want someone like Erica to stay and you like ripping k-girls in half, then don't complain why k-girl scene is lacking in LA. There are plenty of money in other parts of US and even Canada.[/QUOTE]It's important to isolate treating kgirls well and critiquing their service as two wholly separate things. One may have an affect on the other or vice versa but at the end of the day, they are two distinct aspects of mongering.

I very much doubt that the vast majority of mongers treat kgirls poorly or sees them only as sex dolls or less than human beings. If the bookers are doing their job correctly, these types of individuals are usually weeded out during vetting or BL shortly after a session or two with kgirls. Small infractions are rarely heard about and / or disseminated in the community. More often than not, only the extreme cases bubble up to the top and reach the forums (broken ribs, fake currency, theft, nonconsensual filming, etc.). While each incident is tragic, the small amount of similarly severe cases is often taken at face value and mischaracterized as rampant in the scene. Which it is not, this is just selection bias. Taking a step back, given the amount of agencies and kgirls across the LA / OC area and however many hundreds of sessions that occur everyday over however many years these incidents occur, the percentage of this happening to kgirls is miniscule. I'm not discounting how horrible it is, but we all need to take into consideration the likelihood also. For instance, in our lifetime we have close to a 1% chance of dying in a car crash but most of us still choose to commute and drive cars.

As for the later aspect, every monger possesses an idealized concept of what they perceive as good service. This becomes a grading rubric each kgirl will be tested against. How well they mesh and score will determine what kind of reviews will posted after the fact. Given the circumstance and dynamics involved, critiquing a kgirl's performance is integral, if not mandatory, to the whole process. You are paying for a service and not with chump change either. If, for example, I'm shelling out $300 at two restaurants: one has great ambiance, knowledgeable wait staff, and great food while another has wailing kids running amok, servers that clearly hate their job, and food not much better than the Sizzler's around the corner, I sure am going to be complaining to management and posting a review reflective of what I experience on Yelp, Google reviews, Tripadvisor, or similar platforms.

Ultimately, I don't think we mongers as a whole are treating kgirls unfairly. With how donations are pretty similar regardless of where you go (not including upcharges), kgirls demonstrating exceptional characteristics / service and those that fall short should equally be called out to benefit the community and give bookers notice on what we want and like. Moreover, upcharges were a consequence and byproduct of kgirls themselves and the bookers ran with it. The delineation between upcharge and not upcharge girls and all issues arising because of it is their damn own fault. In your words "Eric (and I would add all kgirls) are solely here for the money, not sex". I agree with that statement but I would also add that we mongers are here solely (most of us anyways) for the sex, not the inadequacies originating from said kgirl that affects it. We're all consenting adults here. The ability of certain kgirls to be able to cope with fucking strangers day in and day out, to have the mental fortitude to deliver consistent service to the majority of her clients, and to not drag drama into the session is the linchpin in separating the superstars and the duds. I don't think, even for a second, that evaluating a service I paid for dehumanizes the people involve. We all (should) know and be aware that it boils down to a transaction and a service, bought and paid for. I can be polite, cordial, and courteous while objectively evaluating how well you please me. I have faith that most of us here can too. And it should no way indicate that we are callous or otherwise for doing so. If this still sounds dehumanizing or offensive to you, then we just have to agree to disagree. I can't speak for others but, personally, I pursue the good fucks and don't treat the dud fucks any less than the good ones.

Always wanted to try k girl scene. Any thoughts for newbie to try out a booker? Or any other recommendations. Thanks.

[QUOTE=FuriousPork;6087693]Does anyone know if any girl or agency have cosplays, uniforms or similar?[/QUOTE]Most have only a few sets of lingerie available. The rest seem to favor school uniforms. If you're into that, find a girl you like and see if she's open to that. Most are. Keep the [URL=google.com]... umm...[/URL] "accoutrements" in their original packaging or tags to show her it's brand new. I know a guy who takes measurements and brings what he likes for the girl to wear. Everyone's got their kinks and fetishes, might as well take advantage of it in the kgirl world.

[QUOTE=TheAbc;6087830]I doubt you'll read it, maybe at most click on the link then leave the site. The choice is yours if you want to continue on with how you think. I'll be nice and throw you a bone. Maybe someone who lurks will benefit and see a different corner of the world much less known.

[URL]https://therationalmale.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]This some Andrew Tate shit?

[QUOTE=LilDuk;6087302]These k-girls barely care about korean population in LA. My friend owns the spa most of them frequents they openly talk about their work. If clients speak Korean, most of them like it because it means they can shorten the fucking and stretch the talking. Most of them leave LA scene due to lack of business and stress. Who would want to work in a city where most mongers don't tip and want bb, wild fucking, pretty face, spinner body, etc. They would rather go to norcal where tech mongers are loaded to the teeth and can tip generously.

K-girls don't move to bay area because they are afraid of being found out. Most Koreans turn blind eye on sex workers in Korean red districts. We don't really care. Sex work was a big part of korean history ( 기생). K-Girls want to stay in LA because there is big korean community here. Food culture is prolly most important reason why you don't see k-girls in middle of US. Most of k-girls are in heavily populated Korean community. But in the end, they move away to bay area where they can make more money and have less stress. Bay area community doesn't demand bb. K girls just happen to offer it more because they know that these bay area whales will buy them all the things they want. In LA, most mongers aren't whales and they complain whenever there is upcharge.[/QUOTE]You would be surprised how little NorCal guys pay tips.

[QUOTE=FuriousPork;6087693]Does anyone know if any girl or agency have cosplays, uniforms or similar?[/QUOTE]Before 2 days I was see the ads.

[QUOTE=FuriousPork;6087693]Does anyone know if any girl or agency have cosplays, uniforms or similar?[/QUOTE]Yes, I know that.

After visiting LA and being able to see 3 girls a few weeks ago, I must say that the amount of griping you do about things is funny to read. I get how things are relative but coming from the Midwest, I'm so jealous. For 320 I was BBFCIP the most beautiful k girls with my tongue down their throat and it was just heaven. In the Midwest you're spending half that to get a hand job, and maybe a covered BJ for 100 more. And there's like a handful of places you can fuck no problem but its all covered. The women are kind of hit or miss on looks and its just in some gross places. I'd be bankrupt in a month if I lived there with all of you.