"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

These sites need to add "gender verified" as an option. The girl sends in a copy of her birth certificate, and a close up gyno-selfie.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2873844]These sites need to add "gender verified" as an option. The girl sends in a copy of her birth certificate, and a close up gyno-selfie.[/QUOTE]You are hereby banned from listening to Bruce Springsteen for your bigoted comments.

Whatever he THINKS he is, he is.

Way too funny.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2873955]You are hereby banned from listening to Bruce Springsteen for your bigoted comments.

Whatever he THINKS he is, he is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2873955]You are hereby banned from listening to Bruce Springsteen for your bigoted comments.

Whatever he THINKS he is, he is.[/QUOTE]Bruce doesn't want to play anywhere that makes it difficult for him to hook up with tranny groupies, I guess.

Jest aside though, I'd imagine Brandon Wade has thought about this issue as it affects SD sites and is trying to figure out a solution that saves face while not losing customers. I guess he could stick to the idea that male members must pay for membership, and females get in free as a reason to keep the peace.

Board rules are very clear there is to be no discussion about gender-transitioned individuals. I used to think that was a dumb rule (it's a sex board, many of us have been at least curious if not outright interested, what's the big deal). I see its value now. Let's not devolve into a war of words here.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2875051]Board rules are very clear there is to be no discussion about gender-transitioned individuals. I used to think that was a dumb rule (it's a sex board, many of us have been at least curious if not outright interested, what's the big deal). I see its value now. Let's not devolve into a war of words here.[/QUOTE]I think most people could distinguish the type of discussion that rule was intended to handle from what has been discussed here lately. If someone is tricked or scammed during the use of an SD site, it is going to get discussed here or somewhere else. Being interested in a particular lifestyle and participating because you want to is one thing, being a victim of bait and switch is a subject in itself.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;2873729]Man I want your hands! If you can determine the chromosomes of a person by feeling their breasts, then that's some amazing skills!

Kidding aside. As a frequent traveler to Asia you hear stories like this all of the time. There isn't a sure fire way to make a determination in some cases without the "Dundee test" so don't kick yourself.[/QUOTE]I saw "Crying game" after seeing all its rave reviews and boy was I livid when the main character realizes he is with a guy who had sucked him off during a previous encounter!

And to rub it in when Forest Whitaker laughs after this scene I felt as if all the reviewers were laughing at me for being able to con me into seeing the movie without the slightest hint about its content / subject!

So what is the "Dundee Test" ?

After having only pay per meeting arrangements so far I am now considering a weekly allowance with a woman who doesn't do per meeting arrangements. All communication has been through email so far but she has sold herself very aggressively with statements such as "I take pride in keeping my man happy".

Anyway when it ends I hope we part as adults instead of another sales pitch or sob story!

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2875534]I saw "Crying game" after seeing all its rave reviews and boy was I livid when the main character realizes he is with a guy who had sucked him off during a previous encounter!

And to rub it in when Forest Whitaker laughs after this scene I felt as if all the reviewers were laughing at me for being able to con me into seeing the movie without the slightest hint about its content / subject!

So what is the "Dundee Test" ?[/QUOTE]He's referring to the movie Crocodile Dundee. The handshake Mick "Crocodile" Dundee uses to check if a Sheila really is a Sheila. It's a crotch grab.

I am willing to forfeit my anonymity to use the site however is it necessary to let the host know that I'll be spending some quality intimate time with my girl friend?

Or is that considered my personal business?

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2875578]I am willing to forfeit my anonymity to use the site however is it necessary to let the host know that I'll be spending some quality intimate time with my girl friend?

Or is that considered my personal business?[/QUOTE]One thing about AirBnB is that like many "social media" sites it's all about reputation and authenticity. I think most of the landlords there do not intend for their space to be a no-tell motel, so I would definitely let them know your intentions, otherwise they will pan you in reviews and others won't want to rent to you. However, maybe some of them are okay with it if you ask? If you're renting in the same geographic area you live, it's probably going to raise eyebrows anyway so I would just lay the cards on the table.

Is there a specific reason you wouldn't want a hotel room? I think your anonymity and privacy is best served there.

Let's keep board discussion limited to sugar relationships with women.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2875051]Board rules are very clear there is to be no discussion about gender-transitioned individuals. I used to think that was a dumb rule (it's a sex board, many of us have been at least curious if not outright interested, what's the big deal). I see its value now. Let's not devolve into a war of words here.[/QUOTE]

Got a new SB. Congrats to me! The problem here is she screwed my brains out and it was an epic lay. Now she wants to up the price. She gave me the first run after a night of dinner and drinks. I spent about 300 and maybe another 120 for the hotel. She got me hooked, but now she hit me with a problem. She says she needs a new iPhone and she needs 6 $ for another M&G and likely another session. She gave me the GFE, so the value seems right for the long-term. Would you guys submit to this favor she asked or look for another SB. She's a spinner 10/10/10, just not sure if I want to peel off that type of cash so early on.

Another crux is that my old SB / SO is slowly getting back in the picture. She's ended her had behavior. Old SB lays would be free, but her partying and overnights with "girlfriends" killed the momentum. My guess is that since I cut her off and she's been living more of a student lifestyle she came back to her senses. Her woman instincts probably brought her to the realization that she can be replaced. I stopped being so eager to respond to her texts and have been ignoring her phone calls. She also misses driving my Porsche and the spending cash that was always available. Decisions, decisions!

So, what does 6 $ translate to. Haven't seen numbers posted like this before.

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2877367]Got a new SB. Congrats to me! The problem here is she screwed my brains out and it was an epic lay. Now she wants to up the price. She gave me the first run after a night of dinner and drinks. I spent about 300 and maybe another 120 for the hotel. She got me hooked, but now she hit me with a problem. She says she needs a new iPhone and she needs 6 $ for another M&G and likely another session. She gave me the GFE, so the value seems right for the long-term. Would you guys submit to this favor she asked or look for another SB. She's a spinner 10/10/10, just not sure if I want to peel off that type of cash so early on.

Another crux is that my old SB / SO is slowly getting back in the picture. She's ended her had behavior. Old SB lays would be free, but her partying and overnights with "girlfriends" killed the momentum. My guess is that since I cut her off and she's been living more of a student lifestyle she came back to her senses. Her woman instincts probably brought her to the realization that she can be replaced. I stopped being so eager to respond to her texts and have been ignoring her phone calls. She also misses driving my Porsche and the spending cash that was always available. Decisions, decisions![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpressoJim;2877415]So, what does 6 $ translate to. Haven't seen numbers posted like this before.[/QUOTE]I assume six hundred since he's asking if any of us would for a perfect fuck.

I can only speak for myself, but no absolutely not for one trip to the FC. Maybe for weekend stay with lots of perfect fuck sessions? I guess mileage varies but I've always been under the belief that whatever the maximum you pay, that's going to be their future expectation from you and anything less leads to less enthusiastic performance.

Slight subject change. Lately, I've found value in sharpening the game skills just for the sake of practice.

If I get bored, rather than text an in-progress POT that I actually want to talk to (best to wait for them to come to me, but sometimes I have an eager feeling to text) I will hit up a new girl on one of the sites, specifically picking one that displays glaring GPS symptoms in her profile. Then I try to take her from her initial state of defensiveness and "its going to cost you" attitude down to "okay I'm interested in dating with or without financial support", all working strictly from dialog and photo exchange, no in person meeting yet. I've been able to do that to 3 girls in the last 4 days, I initially set out to do it only as sort of a social experiment and I've realized the value it has toward keeping my game sharp. Haggling them down from GPS to pre-agreed on freebie is not easy to do, and consistent results are elusive at best, but it helps keep me current on how to get inside their mind for when I need to.

I actually prefer to date girls who don't need their attitude worked on like this, but picking out the most difficult ones and just seeing how quickly and thoroughly they can be worn down to completely respecting you and agreeing to fuck pro-bono is good exercise. It is also time consuming so I feel like it disciplines me to take my time, wait for appropriate delay between responses, speak tactfully and indirectly, etc.

Also I should mention, at most I might meet one of the aforementioned 3. I specifically picked them outside of geographic zones I actually work in, in case things went wrong it wasn't an actual future POT (or worse, a friend of one I really want) lost. The purpose was just to make their ego my punching bag of sorts. That sounds a little cold but I see it as no harm done. They will likely forget they ever met me in a week anyway, unless they are extremely introspective (yeah right) and actually learn something about themselves and their own expectations? In that sense maybe I'm taking one for the team here without even realizing it. One of them is within reasonable travel range and I might have to give it a poke just to compensate for the effort expenditure, and since she already made the offer. That is, if she doesn't change her mind by the time I get around to it (never happens with women, does it?) lol