[QUOTE=AtlForLife;5799390]We might have crossed paths. [/QUOTE]We may very well had. If this is the ATL4 L from back in the day, the posts that you and Bankhead used to make are the stuff of legend! Good to see you still in the game!
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[QUOTE=AtlForLife;5799390]We might have crossed paths. [/QUOTE]We may very well had. If this is the ATL4 L from back in the day, the posts that you and Bankhead used to make are the stuff of legend! Good to see you still in the game!
[QUOTE=Wleakr;5801157]We may very well had. If this is the ATL4 L from back in the day, the posts that you and Bankhead used to make are the stuff of legend! Good to see you still in the game![/QUOTE]Thank you.
I'm back now. Haven't talked to BHL in a while now. I'm sure he'll make a comeback too. This hobby always keeps you coming back.
I made two day shift visits to Blaze on Tuesday Feb 1st and Tuesday Feb 15th.
On the first visit I arrived at 12:30 and copped a seat at the downstairs bar on the side with the mirrored wall. I eventually ended up getting dances with two gals. The first dancer was Soft Booty Judy, an Atlanta native from the SWATS. She gave some high mileage dances with plenty of stick shifting and grinding. The second dancer was Marissa who had some stiff implants. Her dances were rather lazy and she had her back to me the entire time. Did not see the VIP being used during my one and a half hour stay, nor was I offered it neither.
The second visit was two weeks later. I arrived a little later at around 1:30. Stay upstairs in a booth near the entrance since the downstairs corner bar seats were taken. Saw Soft Booty Judy again and she smiled and waved but I did not get dances from her this trip. Met a rather thick, voluptuous brown-skinned dancer with a big ass and sizeable titties named Alana. She had a bit of a pouch but still looked good. Her dances were high mileage and she did occasionally reached in my pants to stroke him. She made the suggestion of going to VIP by the third to "take care of that" for $200 to her but I declined. She dropped it to $150 but I still refused. I've never give a dancer more than $100 for VIP at this club or the other $5 spots (Babes, Foxy Lady, Wax). $100 is my VIP limit in the $5/ dance clubs unless it involves BBFS. We made a compromise of her to continuing dancing on the floor for $100 all in. She did start off with some basic lap dancing but then went above and beyond in getting me to nut on the floor. I tried to get DO but based upon where we was sitting she didn't want to risk us getting caught by security. I believe she would've been cool with it if we had that corner bar seat downstairs. She did let out a small squirt while I fingered her. She did take of me by way of a discreet HJ about 15 songs in. A little challenging but due to her wide, thick body frame she was able to block the view for the most part. Gave me digits to see her OTC for dinner and "fun".
Went to wax for the first time. Walked in and found a nice spot in the corner where it was dark. I sat there on my phone for 20-30 min without being approached by anyone. I definitely did not fit in with the crowd so that is probably why. Eventually a girl approached me and I got 3 dances from her. WHile she was dancing she hinted at VIP. I told her I wanted a BBBJ+swallow. Made it clear 2-3 times what I wanted. We agreed to $. I give the room fee and we get inside. She proceeds to bust out a condom. I told her we agreed to BBBJ. She now says BBBJ is $$. What would you do in this scenario? I had plenty of cash to spend, but kind of got turned off from this place.
[QUOTE=VicMan;5802672]Went to wax for the first time. Walked in and found a nice spot in the corner where it was dark. I sat there on my phone for 20-30 min without being approached by anyone. I definitely did not fit in with the crowd so that is probably why. Eventually a girl approached me and I got 3 dances from her. WHile she was dancing she hinted at VIP. I told her I wanted a BBBJ+swallow. Made it clear 2-3 times what I wanted. We agreed to $. I give the room fee and we get inside. She proceeds to bust out a condom. I told her we agreed to BBBJ. She now says BBBJ is $$. What would you do in this scenario? I had plenty of cash to spend, but kind of got turned off from this place.[/QUOTE]Was the room fee high? If so, stick it out, or maybe negotiate something extra for $$ like CFS or rimjob, If the fee is low, then I'd walk.
[QUOTE=VicMan;5802672]Went to wax for the first time. Walked in and found a nice spot in the corner where it was dark. I sat there on my phone for 20-30 min without being approached by anyone. I definitely did not fit in with the crowd so that is probably why. Eventually a girl approached me and I got 3 dances from her. WHile she was dancing she hinted at VIP. I told her I wanted a BBBJ+swallow. Made it clear 2-3 times what I wanted. We agreed to $. I give the room fee and we get inside. She proceeds to bust out a condom. I told her we agreed to BBBJ. She now says BBBJ is $$. What would you do in this scenario? I had plenty of cash to spend, but kind of got turned off from this place.[/QUOTE]I personally wouldn't overpay, think with the big head not the little head. Even if you can afford it you don't raise your rates, imagine looking at a car for 22,000 within your budget you get to get ready to sign for it and now it cost 30,000. It's the principle of not upholding the deal.
[QUOTE=VicMan;5802672]Went to wax for the first time. Walked in and found a nice spot in the corner where it was dark. I sat there on my phone for 20-30 min without being approached by anyone. I definitely did not fit in with the crowd so that is probably why. Eventually a girl approached me and I got 3 dances from her. WHile she was dancing she hinted at VIP. I told her I wanted a BBBJ+swallow. Made it clear 2-3 times what I wanted. We agreed to $. I give the room fee and we get inside. She proceeds to bust out a condom. I told her we agreed to BBBJ. She now says BBBJ is $$. What would you do in this scenario? I had plenty of cash to spend, but kind of got turned off from this place.[/QUOTE]You have to just have a rule about this which you never break: no upsells.
If I go to VIP with a girl, and she tries to upsell or change the deal, at that point I just turn the spigot off. We'll conclude the deal up to that point, and that's it. She's never getting another dollar again.
So, for example, let's say we arrive in VIP, and I give her the agreed upon fee ($100 in your case?) and THEN she tries to up it, at that point I simply decline the upsell. She can finish out her time (to the minute) dancing nonstop; I might even look at my phone or something, check my emails. I've capped my losses (call it tuition) and she's lost a potential regular.
Now, this hasn't happened often, but when it has, this "ice cold" approach has *usually* resulted in her relenting and going through with the original deal; it's might uncomfortable for a stripper to be alone in VIP with an obviously turned-off and disinterested customer who's just having them work through the remainder of their time.
(My best out come like this was a black spinner at Follies back in 2010 or 2011; I think her name was "Morgan". I took her to VIP and she tried to upsell when it was time to fuck, and I just laughed and shut it down right then. Made her dance the remainder, and then sent her on her way. She knew I was a "good" customer from seeing me in the club (I was a regular then) and didn't want to lose her chance, so she made it up to me with a subsequent VIP visit. She wound up becoming an OTC fuck toy for about the next 6 months.).
In general, clubbing and hobbying both benefit from just maintaining a few unbreakable rules (no matter how hot she is. This is important!).
O.
[QUOTE=VicMan;5802672]Went to wax for the first time. Walked in and found a nice spot in the corner where it was dark. I sat there on my phone for 20-30 min without being approached by anyone. I definitely did not fit in with the crowd so that is probably why. Eventually a girl approached me and I got 3 dances from her. WHile she was dancing she hinted at VIP. I told her I wanted a BBBJ+swallow. Made it clear 2-3 times what I wanted. We agreed to $. I give the room fee and we get inside. She proceeds to bust out a condom. I told her we agreed to BBBJ. She now says BBBJ is $$. What would you do in this scenario? I had plenty of cash to spend, but kind of got turned off from this place.[/QUOTE]Wax has a couple of $20 VIP room and one $40 VIP room. If you decide not to use the VIP you can go to the front desk where you paid and let them know that you didn't use the VIP. You won't get reimbursed but you'll be credited time to go use the VIP for free. So, all you have to do is find another dancer and take her to the VIP.
Feel like I have not seen a goth / punk type chick in awhile. Any idea what club I would have the best shot at finally one? Tattletale lounge maybe? I am going to try to hit up the dayshift there this week. Never been during the day shift so we will see what's up.
[QUOTE=Williaro28;5804421]Feel like I have not seen a goth / punk type chick in awhile. Any idea what club I would have the best shot at finally one? Tattletale lounge maybe? I am going to try to hit up the dayshift there this week. Never been during the day shift so we will see what's up.[/QUOTE]There's a couple at fannies.
Short blond one'll put out for the right price (think $$ I can drop her IG for seniors if you DM me.
Taller black hair one won't do a damn thing. I don't think she likes guys.
There's a few at Oasis as well, but it tends to be a low-mileage club.
Let me know about your tattletales / pinups adventures, they're my type too.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5804208]You have to just have a rule about this which you never break: no upsells.
If I go to VIP with a girl, and she tries to upsell or change the deal, at that point I just turn the spigot off. We'll conclude the deal up to that point, and that's it. She's never getting another dollar again.
So, for example, let's say we arrive in VIP, and I give her the agreed upon fee ($100 in your case?) and THEN she tries to up it, at that point I simply decline the upsell. She can finish out her time (to the minute) dancing nonstop; I might even look at my phone or something, check my emails. I've capped my losses (call it tuition) and she's lost a potential regular.
Now, this hasn't happened often, but when it has, this "ice cold" approach has *usually* resulted in her relenting and going through with the original deal; it's might uncomfortable for a stripper to be alone in VIP with an obviously turned-off and disinterested customer who's just having them work through the remainder of their time.
(My best out come like this was a black spinner at Follies back in 2010 or 2011; I think her name was "Morgan". I took her to VIP and she tried to upsell when it was time to fuck, and I just laughed and shut it down right then. Made her dance the remainder, and then sent her on her way. She knew I was a "good" customer from seeing me in the club (I was a regular then) and didn't want to lose her chance, so she made it up to me with a subsequent VIP visit. She wound up becoming an OTC fuck toy for about the next 6 months.).
In general, clubbing and hobbying both benefit from just maintaining a few unbreakable rules (no matter how hot she is. This is important!).
O.[/QUOTE]Spot on perfect advice from Ozy. It works!
[QUOTE=Williaro28;5804421]Feel like I have not seen a goth / punk type chick in awhile. Any idea what club I would have the best shot at finally one? Tattletale lounge maybe? I am going to try to hit up the dayshift there this week. Never been during the day shift so we will see what's up.[/QUOTE]Historically, I'd say Pink Pony (since that's the main place I've seen the type over the years).
That said, I think you're more likely to find this on night shift.
O.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5805088]Historically, I'd say Pink Pony (since that's the main place I've seen the type over the years).
That said, I think you're more likely to find this on night shift.
O.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Before I moved here (over 10 years ago) I always ended up at what is now the diamond club. Don't remember what it was called then (it was always really late after a long day of drinking, etc.). Always ended up finding one that I could get weird with. I move here and now I can't find any. Haha. Go figure.
As the title says. I'm close to my mid 30's and never been to a strip club. The reason is I'm extremely shy and have a minor but noticable stutter issue which prevents me from approaching an enviroment like that also I don't want to spend my money just to get teased. If I go, I want to go knowing I'm smashing but don't want to pay no high agency type $ for SW or low quality escort service. All my knowledge is based off of movies and not real life experiences so please school me.
Whats the typical rules of strip clubs like no touching etc?
Who do I know which ones will eventually smash?
Is the VIP room worth it?
Best clubs for big booties?
Whats the average $ to spend to not get taken advantage of?
Tips, tricks and advice?
[QUOTE=Marcus07;5806197]As the title says. I'm close to my mid 30's and never been to a strip club. The reason is I'm extremely shy and have a minor but noticable stutter issue which prevents me from approaching an enviroment like that also I don't want to spend my money just to get teased. If I go, I want to go knowing I'm smashing but don't want to pay no high agency type $ for SW or low quality escort service. All my knowledge is based off of movies and not real life experiences so please school me.
Whats the typical rules of strip clubs like no touching etc?
Who do I know which ones will eventually smash?
Is the VIP room worth it?
Best clubs for big booties?
Whats the average $ to spend to not get taken advantage of?
Tips, tricks and advice?[/QUOTE]Not going to lie, but you should probably look into an agency. At least with the agency you know what your spending (typically 3-400) and it's a guaranteed return. Strippers literally spend all day every day convincing men to provide them maximum $ for as little effort as possible. I'm not saying their all bad, but it's simply economics, the less time they spend with you, the more time they spend getting their next hustle on. And if your shy you don't come off as sweet to them (though they'll say you do) you come off as easy money. And if you're not, they'll give you a few dances and move to someone who is. But if you're looking to bag a good looking stripper in VIP for less than an agency? You're going to need to be a little charming while also being a decent negotiator. And as good as you might think you are, and as smart as you think you are, if it's not an environment you're used to, you'll very quickly find yourself overwhelmed by the feel of her on you, the perfume filling up your nostrils, her hand caressing your junk through your pants as she promises you the world for "only" 400 or 500. And next thing you know, you're in the VIP and she's giving you an air dance and you're wondering WTF why did you agree to this?
However, if you insist on doing this, here are some answers:
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Whats the typical rules of strip clubs like no touching etc?[/QUOTE]All clubs officially have a "no touching" rule because of local ordinances. The trick is some don't really care, others don't really care if you're not obvious, some don't care as long as you tip the bouncer to not care, and some (Pink Pony / Cheetah) very much care and will throw you out if security sees you (unless you're a "big spender" in which case they can and will make exceptions. Let's just say the Atlanta Braves / Falcons players that frequent the Cheetah get to touch all they want, but they are dropping $1 K or more an hour. You're not.) Look back in this board and you can see which clubs don't seem to enforce as much. And the girls know how to ensure no one gets caught (assuming they like you) though they can also make damn sure you're caught if you piss them off.
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Who do I know which ones will eventually smash?[/QUOTE]If you have a name and a club listed in this thread with a recommendation (an example: "Went to Vivide dayshift, had Shelby dance for me, took her back to VIP and got CFS for 300) then that's how you know. Otherwise, you're going in blind and your charm, your ability to negotiate, and your bullshit detector are all you have. Girls are worried about undercover cops, so they are super hesitant to just tell you "Oh yeah I'll blow you in VIP for 150". You have to build up a little trust and persuade them your legit, and then hope the one you're talking too is open to it. If they are willing to put their hands down your pants and actually touch your dick, that's a good sign. If they are barely touching you at all or just air dancing, that's a sign they aren't going to be any better in VIP. If they are grinding on you pretty well, and let your hands roam, that's also good. None of these are 100% proof "Oh yea she fucks" but you just have to be observant (in the dark club full of loud music and a naked woman within inches of you that's easier said than done) and try to catch the signs WHILE ALSO having your bullshit detector going. Because even if a girl is grinding hard on you and promises "the world" to you in VIP, they still might take you back there and feed you excuses as to why what you thought was going to happen ain't.
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Is the VIP room worth it?[/QUOTE]Yes and no. Depends on the club, the girl, and you. Some clubs are so chill (like the old Follies) you could get a hummer in the middle of the club and no one gave af. Others have "VIP" areas that are private and can be enjoyed, while others still the VIP is semi open so security can keep an eye on you the whole time. Again, read through this thread and see which clubs have more fun VIP rooms.
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Best clubs for big booties?[/QUOTE]I mean, most clubs got all types of girls for all types of tastes, but this is Atlanta. Black clubs will always have ready access to big booty b*tches LOL.
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Whats the average $ to spend to not get taken advantage of?[/QUOTE]Different clubs, different standards. I don't want to spend more than 400 at a club IF part of that 400 includes me getting my dick wet. So generally I'm hoping to find the "right girl" quickly, spend around 50-100 on dances to confirm she's going to be what I want her to be and negotiate, then take to VIP and smash.
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Tips, tricks and advice?[/QUOTE]The questions you should have asked but didn't:
What time should I go? At most clubs, Dayshift girls tend to be the most receptive to providing "extras" and "fun. " Night shifts will be crowded and will have big spenders, so if you're not one, you're just a floor decoration that buys drinks.
What's OTC and is that a better option? OTC is "Outside the club", sometimes also called "takeout". This is what I and alot of the more experienced people will recommend. Rather than going into a club expecting to get laid. You go in expecting to get the name and number of a couple of girls that catch your eye. For that, you don't need to spend as much initially, depending on how charming you are, but generally once you have a girl giving you a table dance they'll usually ask for VIP pretty quickly. Say "I don't like VIP, I'm looking for the right girl to meet outside the club. I think that's way more fun for both of us. " If you don't look like a scumbag or smell like an unwashed asshole, often they'll give you their number pretty quick. Do this a few times (because these girls are NOTORIOUSLY flakey) and leave. If you have 3-5 girls phone numbers, then you can text them the next day and work out details. Some guys work out the details in the club before they leave, but that's not my preference. Once you can text them, it's just a matter of asking when they are available to meet, and what their expectation is to have fun. At this point your charm and ability to text will get you far (or get you nowhere) but generally you want to confirm 1) will they host or will you, 2) how much for fun, and 3) what do they like / don't like to do. Generally I'm not going to see any girl, stripper or otherwise, that wants to do a CBJ, but you have to be a little more subtle than "hey babe, when are you available? Also, when you suck dick will you make me a wear a rubber?" Talk to her, get her to warm up to you, ask her what she enjoys when ya'll are having fun, ask her if she would enjoy you going down on her, THEN if she says yes you might ask "oh, and speaking of oral, spit or swallow". Again, nothing is a guarantee and these girls lie for a living (but it's lies guys are paying them to tell. So they lie, but they're not necessarily dishonest if that makes sense). Generally you should expect to need to pay for a hotel room plus 250 - 400 depending on the girl.