Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=RamButt;6721080]You bet you can be in trouble. You may get a visit from the FBI or sheriff's office if they connect your number or license plate to one of those establishments.[/QUOTE]As long as you are not sending incriminating text messages to any of these places you should be perfectly fine. Just because someone is filmed visiting one of these places does not mean anything illegal has happened. People do go here for just a massage. It doesn't mean you did something illegal just cause you walked in.

Anyone tried this girl out? Very curious! New here BTW, hello.

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[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6721345]In the words of Aaron Rodgers. Just RELAX. Its a year end money grab. The landscape will only change briefly. Look up Warren Oh, and you will understand how this works. Minimal charges in exchange for stolen cash. Then return to normal. Wash, rinse, repeat.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with HeeJunk. While sure it's a bit scary to all of us because it happened so suddenly (and without much warning as most raids / stings do), it's exactly the reaction that the cops want out of us (the clients). They think by temporarily giving us a scare that we'll stay away and stop patronizing these businesses. What they don't understand / realize is that there will always be a market for these services. Granted, do I want these girls to not be trafficked into providing them? Of FUCKING COURSE! But the reason why this trafficking exists in the first place is because it's illegal, full stop. Make this shit legal / regulated and you solve human trafficking (or at the very least make it so minimal that it's easier to police and protect victims of it).

At the end of the day, the good providers will continue to provide and there's still a ton of options out there that I'm sure are safe from Uncle LEO even right at this very moment. Hell, even the bad ones that got busted will just learn from their mistakes, find a new place and re-start up their business in a different building or city in a few weeks / months. Suffice to say, the world's oldest profession isn't going away any time soon. If anything, it's just going to evolve until it's federally legalized in few years / decades. If Nevada can do it, so can we.

Do we still have remaining FS spa remaining?

Might as well post the full name and address here too.

I'm new to the massage scene as I'm normally a strip club guy. Reading lots of fun info to temp me into a massage but was wondering, after reading about raids, what happens to a customer if you're there during a raid? Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=MisterPaul;6693551]I came across this place online. I decided it deserved a look so I stopped in this morning as they were opening. There were a few workers inside putting the finishing touches on some counters. I was welcomed in by a very hot Asian woman named Apple (from 1717). She asked if I wanted a massage. I decided to come back in a few days because I could not relax with the workers in the building. Apple assured me that they would be gone in less than an hour. But I could not wait. Apple said there was another sweet young girl available today with another coming on Tuesday. From what I could see, this place is very nice. Table shower, several nice rooms and plenty of parking. Everything is new and very clean. I can't wait to come back and try out the table shower. 13 Mile at Greenfield in Beverly Hills.[/QUOTE]I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.

[QUOTE=BReal2025;6721830]Anyone tried this girl out? Very curious! New here BTW, hello.

[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1775236[/URL][/QUOTE]She's been reviewed on here several times, I recommend searching. I saw her once years ago. She's good looking with a big fake ass, but that's about the extent of the positive on her.

[QUOTE=JDoe1969;6721599]Just because they record you going in to one of these places is not enough proof to say you did something illegal inside. I doubt anything would come of this. Anyone have an idea how long any of these places were being monitored before the raid?[/QUOTE]The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.

[QUOTE=RamButt;6722188]The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.[/QUOTE]If they can't prove you got anything more than a massage, then why would they even bother to go after a John in the first place?

I think the only way a monger gets into trouble is if he's caught in the act by a raid, propositions an undercover cop in a sting operation, or if there are phone records or texts explicitly talking about paying money for sex.

Can anyone with a legal background chime in?

[QUOTE=MisterPaul;6722070]I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.[/QUOTE]Cowboy Tshirt? Clearly LEO.

[QUOTE=MisterPaul;6722070]I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.[/QUOTE]What was the cost + tip?

[QUOTE=RamButt;6722188]The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.[/QUOTE]It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.

If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.

[QUOTE=Miggy90;6722343]It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.

If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.[/QUOTE]This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.

Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).

Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.

[QUOTE=Rgv956;6721944]Do we still have remaining FS spa remaining?

Might as well post the full name and address here too.[/QUOTE]Long time monger here just been coasting the posts for a while. M1, magic and Saigon are still good. But I'd expect them to tread lightly on those who visit. Day spa is for sure closed. Saw a white sheet covering the door and broken glass. I don't do AMP too often anymore. The aamp are the best.

[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6722301]Cowboy Tshirt? Clearly LEO.[/QUOTE]I steer very clear from streetwalkers. The price you pay for the price you may pay isn't worth it.

Cherry Blossom was allegedly closed after a raid roughly six months ago. They had video cameras trained on the door and cash register area. They maintained phone records which, at least in the short term, tied to specific visits and workers. To the best of my knowledge the rooms weren't bugged. It's strange there were no news accounts of the closure or rates.

[QUOTE=Miggy90;6722343]It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.

If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.[/QUOTE]

Just left a Groupon massage that was great but no extras. On way home I got a text that a provider of BBBJ only was at a hotel at crooks and m59. So I swung by and spent 15 minutes getting a great BBBJ cim. She will only be there tonight. Sexy white 30 something natural C's clean. She is not a massage therapist but she says she can do massage. Seniors inbox for details.

[QUOTE=GolDark;6721176]That's definitely a smart thing to do.

However I know for a fact that at least one of the places raided recorded cars / licenses as they parked, and tied that to you as they recorded you entering the doorway.

There is no way out of that one if they're set on identifying you.[/QUOTE]Identifying you for what? Going to a massage place for a massage?

[QUOTE=RamButt;6722188]The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.[/QUOTE]Looks like there is no escape for you. I checked you made visit and review on Anna before.

[QUOTE=Smashing1979;6722373]This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.

Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).

Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.[/QUOTE]I agree with Smashing here. Unless you are specifically walking in and telling the girls either in person or via text "Hey, how much to fuck you?" loud enough that the whole town can hear it, the cops quite literally have nothing to tie to you. Sure, they could have their suspicion that you're doing something illegal, but without probable cause (and even then PC is not enough for an arrest in most situations) or hard evidence / proof of you soliciting prostitution, there's no way they can do anything to you. And if they did, don't tell them SHIT! Nothing good EVER comes from talking to cops. Play dumb. If anything, you could just say you had no idea what goes on in this place and just wanted a massage. Hell, you could even tell the cop that the second the girl started touching your junk that you didn't consent to her touching you. Your word against hers. So long story short, stop freaking the fuck out. The cops are not coming after you, me or any other monger. If you want a massage with extras, go get a massage with extras. Stay safe and go bust your nuts.

I will be in Dearborn on Friday this week for work, what places are the best to go to as I have not been in the area in a few years. Healing Therapy with Sasha was always good but I can't remember much else. AMP or private is fine, just looking for a massage with fun. Thanks. PM's are fine if you prefer.

[QUOTE=Smashing1979;6722373]This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.

Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).

Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks for you input. I will keep on keeping on and bust my nut whereever I damn well please. LOL.

[QUOTE=Smashing1979;6722373]This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.

Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).

Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.[/QUOTE]As someone that's been on this board for more than 5 years, this happens every 8-10 months without fail:

1. Particular place or places get raided.

2. Everyone freaks out.

3. There's at least one moron who pours gasoline on the small fire and states as fact that some of us will be arrested by the police or the FBI.

4. Nothing ever happens.

5. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Unless you're part of a trafficking ring, or if you're too dumb to perform the VERY simple and basic etiquette that keeps you out of harm's way, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

I'd like to suggest mods banning the gasoline pourers; as this prevents information being shared, which hurts us all.

[QUOTE=SanityIsRealit;6722718]As someone that's been on this board for more than 5 years, this happens every 8-10 months without fail:

1. Particular place or places get raided.

2. Everyone freaks out.

3. There's at least one moron who pours gasoline on the small fire and states as fact that some of us will be arrested by the police or the FBI.

4. Nothing ever happens.

5. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Unless you're part of a trafficking ring, or if you're too dumb to perform the VERY simple and basic etiquette that keeps you out of harm's way, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

I'd like to suggest mods banning the gasoline pourers; as this prevents information being shared, which hurts us all.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the advice! I'm not pouring gasoline!

[QUOTE=SanityIsRealit;6722718]As someone that's been on this board for more than 5 years, this happens every 8-10 months without fail:

1. Particular place or places get raided.

2. Everyone freaks out.

3. There's at least one moron who pours gasoline on the small fire and states as fact that some of us will be arrested by the police or the FBI.

4. Nothing ever happens.

5. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Unless you're part of a trafficking ring, or if you're too dumb to perform the VERY simple and basic etiquette that keeps you out of harm's way, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

I'd like to suggest mods banning the gasoline pourers; as this prevents information being shared, which hurts us all.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Too many mongers out in the USA. Would honestly cause a economic crisis. Too many domino effects there's just too many mongers.

In town visiting, where is Gold Star? Google brings you to an empty lot.

[QUOTE=Hankook234;6722391]Long time monger here just been coasting the posts for a while. M1, magic and Saigon are still good. But I'd expect them to tread lightly on those who visit. Day spa is for sure closed. Saw a white sheet covering the door and broken glass. I don't do AMP too often anymore. The aamp are the best.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm looking at this all in retrospect, but I honestly don't think Day Spa getting raided or shut down was all that surprising or shocking. If any of you have been there, they really didn't keep up the façade that the place was a spa in any sense. They had no front desk receptionist, the place was dark and dimly lit with a bunch of non working pedicure machines and "massage" tables with paper sheets (akin to that of a doctors office) with no face holes. Anyone who thought for 10 seconds that this place looked like a legit spa has never been to a legit spa before. At least with other FS places, there was at least a bit of plausible deniability that the place was indeed legit. Places like the now gone Spa 1717 immediately come to mind that gave clients bath robes and slippers to lead you to the table shower were some of the things to at least make you think that at least things were somewhat on the up and up.

As a somewhat surprising related note, I do find it interesting that they smashed the front door as part of the raid. You would have thought that they would have just had an undercover cop walk in and perform some arrests (as to my knowledge there was only 2 or 3 people in the building at any particular moment). Guess they were really trying to send a message (or perhaps living out their real "hero" moment) when they smashed in the front door.

[QUOTE=TylerKnight090;6722774]In town visiting, where is Gold Star? Google brings you to an empty lot.[/QUOTE]A quick search of the forum turned up the result of plugging Greeley St & 8 Mile Rd, Detroit, MI into google maps.

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6722858]A quick search of the forum turned up the result of plugging Greeley St & 8 Mile Rd, Detroit, MI into google maps.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Ended up ay Majic's again but will try them out later this week.

[QUOTE=IslandM;6722324]What was the cost + tip?[/QUOTE]IslandM, clear out your private messages.

It's a misdemeanor for the first two solicitations. We wrote 300 misdemeanors doesn't make the news. Have your fun and don't worry about it. Now if your on number two already, hang it up. The 3rd is a felony.

So most full service will start the talk about what you want and price. So if you were on camera that would be problematic. Most HE places just do the deed. So you can claim they caught you off guard and there was no intent on your part. So if your concerned stick to the HE places for now.

There are a few places in Oakland county. They will generally not raid them, just close them for some violation. They don't want the press that they are in their town.

So I am a rideshare driver by trade and last week I picked up a girl at Sunrise Spa on Grand River and drive her to M1 down on Telegraph. Had no idea the were affiliated.

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6722856]Maybe I'm looking at this all in retrospect, but I honestly don't think Day Spa getting raided or shut down was all that surprising or shocking. If any of you have been there, they really didn't keep up the faade that the place was a spa in any sense. They had no front desk receptionist, the place was dark and dimly lit with a bunch of non working pedicure machines and "massage" tables with paper sheets (akin to that of a doctors office) with no face holes. Anyone who thought for 10 seconds that this place looked like a legit spa has never been to a legit spa before. At least with other FS places, there was at least a bit of plausible deniability that the place was indeed legit. Places like the now gone Spa 1717 immediately come to mind that gave clients bath robes and slippers to lead you to the table shower were some of the things to at least make you think that at least things were somewhat on the up and up.

As a somewhat surprising related note, I do find it interesting that they smashed the front door as part of the raid. You would have thought that they would have just had an undercover cop walk in and perform some arrests (as to my knowledge there was only 2 or 3 people in the building at any particular moment). Guess they were really trying to send a message (or perhaps living out their real "hero" moment) when they smashed in the front door.[/QUOTE]For sure they even left the doors open on a sunny warm day sometimes. I was surprised. Thought for a second they were safe.

Oh please, I want to puke at this ridiculous statement. I've been doing this for 10 years and I've never met any girl who couldn't leave when ever they wanted to go to another store. How many times have you come across a "new girl" who you thought was going to be your ATF only to find out she left a few day later because they didn't like the shop or the other girls or they weren't that busy? I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but unlikely at these places.

I wanted to puke at all the ridiculous heart jerking statements they made. "They had no transportation. " That's because most Chinese don't know how to drive! They all use Uber. The political police show is so fucking irritating.

If all of this was legal, there would be zero trafficking at all of these places. Too many guys would play white knight, Myself included, to protect them from assholes. It would be safer for everyone involved.

They said some of the girls sought trafficking help. If true I suspect they did this to minimize their own trouble.

[QUOTE=AnanaMo;6722981]It's a misdemeanor for the first two solicitations. We wrote 300 misdemeanors doesn't make the news. Have your fun and don't worry about it. Now if your on number two already, hang it up. The 3rd is a felony.[/QUOTE]Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?

[QUOTE=HarryDude;6723239]Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same thing when I read that.

[QUOTE=HarryDude;6723239]Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure that he meant "the cops aren't issuing press releases about writing a bunch of citations for getting a handy".

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I saw this ad a few months ago and was unable to find this place. I am in this area frequently so I just kept my eyes opened. It turns out, Gold Star is not in Ferndale; it is in Detroit. The Google map shows it in Ferndale about a half mile west of Woodward on W Eight Mile. It is actually on EAST EIGHT MILE about a quarter mile east of I-75. I stumbled upon it yesterday and stopped in for a visit. A beautiful Korean girl named Lisa answered the door and welcomed me in. She was early-30's with a great body hidden by a very tiny dress that barely covered her ass. I gave her the $80 house fee and started to get undressed. I should mention that the spa was spotless and furnished beautifully. Lisa came into the room and offered me a table shower. I was somewhat pressed for time so I declined. I got on the table face down and she began a very good massage. It was much better than almost any Asian place I have been. She did a very thorough job and her fingers let me know that it was time to turn over. I am a bit older so sometimes I need a little more encouragement to go forward. Lisa was very patient and provided the addition stimulus required. About 15 minutes later, she cleaned me up with an alcohol soaked cloth and gave me another 20 minutes of excellent massage. My visit to Gold Star spa was super and I will most certainly return.[/QUOTE]It took me a month but I finally made it back to see Lisa. This time, I went for the table shower. Great experience. A very thorough scrubbing. Once again, she gave me a very good massage. She performed wonderfully and I was totally happy. On the way out, I saw a hot looking girl and Lisa told me that her name was Annie. She just arrived last night. She suggested that I might want to try her next time. As much as I like Lisa, I will probably give Annie an audition soon. Variety is definitely something I like.