Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Admin2;2064741]So the balance of comments were to ban the chicks user group but not to disallow discussion about her. So I decided to reverse myself. Even though the actions of the guy were most certainly a big fuck you admin, had I not made my original decision then it would have never happened, so I got to accept responsibility for the whole tree after my first choice. I took him back off of moderation.

A2.[/QUOTE]Ban the chick and her IP. Or her multiple IP's.

Let the guys post about her, but maybe add your 'blue ink' disclaimer that informs the guys that she is into 'douche-baggery'.

BTW, I heard there was snow in Cincy last night. That must suck.

MUAH!

MD.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2064741]So the balance of comments were to ban the chicks user group but not to disallow discussion about her. So I decided to reverse myself. Even though the actions of the guy were most certainly a big fuck you admin, had I not made my original decision then it would have never happened, so I got to accept responsibility for the whole tree after my first choice. I took him back off of moderation.

A2.[/QUOTE]Discussion boards live and die in how well the quality and quantity of the comments are balanced. It's far too easy for moderators to forget that when they are omnipotent over users' actions. All too often, they very quickly find themselves in complete control of a board with few participants and even less good information. An example is the 'large canine' board. It used to have lots of traffic but is now virtually dead for this very reason.

I don't have a dog in this fight, either, but admire the judicious, thoughtful way A2 moderates the forum in general, to the point of changing positions if he feels it's warranted, sort of like reversing a decision after a challenge and an instant replay booth review.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;2064761]Ban the chick and her IP. Or her multiple IP's.

Let the guys post about her, but maybe add your 'blue ink' disclaimer that informs the guys that she is into 'douche-baggery'.

BTW, I heard there was snow in Cincy last night. That must suck.

MUAH!

MD.[/QUOTE]Molly, if you post that pic of you in the purple negligee, that should raise the temp around here enough to melt anything.

As for the rest of it. Yeah, what she said.

[QUOTE=Scup1958;2064826]Molly, if you post that pic of you in the purple negligee, that should raise the temp around here enough to melt anything.

As for the rest of it. Yeah, what she said.[/QUOTE]All I can do is this.

I'm sure A2 will ban my 'linkage'.

[URL]http://www.**************.com/forum/indianapolis/busted-alert?page=8[/URL]

Those pics are in Cincy, and I'm 1,000 miles from NoWhere (says Clint Black).

MUAH!

MD.

[blue]Just to let you know, I didn't touch this link, it must be from a competitors site, Jax has the software set up to automatically break those. This is his world baby, we all only get to play in it how he wants.

A2[/blue]

It's not the lovely Molly, but maybe Chrissy can help the snow with this tastefully explicit shot. Like Memphis Nicole, Chrissy does a fine job of extracting DNA samples from me. Hey Molly, we don't get much snow in Memphis, but wouldn't you like to get in front of my camera if I can keep the shots tastefully explicit.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2064279][BLUE]In another city I discovered a provider that had 7 aliases where she was posting as a monger to solicit business. Per forum SOP I pronounced the death sentence on the chick. Nobody was allowed to post reviews about her. I specifically warned the seniors that if somebody did it once I would warn them, if they did it twice I would put them back on moderation. Some guy (long time member) who liked this chick decided to give me a big fuck you and the next two posts in the thread immediately following mine, were from the same guy saying I shouldn't do this and she's a good provider.

In other words, I said "don't do it twice" and he said, "ok, here's two times." So I put him on moderation.

Since you guys don't have a dog in the fight what say you? Should I not deny the benefit of the forum to chicks that make fake profiles and post as mongers? Should I not prohibit guys from writing reviews about chicks that do that? Was putting that guy back on moderation a dick move? Even though this is written in blue, if you think I was a power mad nazi faggot cocksucker with delusions of grandeur you can say that. (that's my most commonly received insult)

Your responses will weigh heavily in how we go forward on this issue forum wide.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]First off I think you absolutely did the right thing where the lady was concerned. Secondly, By posting twice, consecutively no less, he was was just thumbing his nose at you and begging for the axe to fall. Quite frankly putting him on moderation was probably less than what his actions actually called for but, it was your call. We have to have some rules to live by here. Anything less would just be anarchy and allow things to spiral out of control.

JMHO.

Luv.

Tasteful but not explicit. But it sure makes little Scup sit up and take notice.

Here's missing you kid.

[QUOTE=Scup1958;2065105]Here's missing you kid.[/QUOTE]Very nice! Thanks for sharing. BTW...purple they say is the color of royalty.

Luv.

[QUOTE=TheGoodSh;2062386][B]It's really simple. If someone posts an offer to share intel, but you haven't fulfilled your end of the bargain. Don't go begging like some sort of street bum.[/B] Do you really have such low standards for yourself? Fucking losers. You have no excuse. This isn't a basic human right. This is a luxury (even if, for you, Mary in Cov is a luxury. Jesus, I pity you).

On the "protecting the girl" side of things, which I understand, but which I think is also a questionable practical concern, it goes like this:
[LIST]If she is SW, and some guy picks her up and mistreats her, that's on that scumbag.[/LIST][LIST]If HL gives a number to the same guy, and he mistreats her, now it's on HL as well (even if it would've happened anyway, he'd still feel responsible).[/LIST][LIST]Further, she is likely going to hold it against HL, human nature.[/LIST]
But to the other concern, that of freeloading, I think you are a moron.

I think a culture of freely giving out info to lazy fucking leeches who don't post intel, is a terrible idea. Ignoring the LEO infiltration concerns (which may be valid), it only encourages people to be leeches. Worse, it gives leeches what they want. Fuck them. People who ask for free intel, but don't contribute, are huge pieces of shit. The worst kinds of fucking assholes on this board.

If you ask other people to "help you" in any way, and don't in turn help others ... You are acting like a horrible human being. I don't care if you [I]think[/I] you are a good guy. You aren't. You are a fucking leech. We'd be better off without you. As a species, not just here.[/QUOTE]We'll see who becomes the street bum when you pick up the girls in Covington who are narks or cops. Fortunately for me, I know which ones they are. I also know which ones fucked around with the guy we all always see cruising through Cov. That has AIDS.

Best of luck to ya! Don't drop the soap and remember to get checked!

[QUOTE=Glockman;2065069]It's not the lovely Molly, but maybe Chrissy can help the snow with this tastefully explicit shot. Like Memphis Nicole, Chrissy does a fine job of extracting DNA samples from me. Hey Molly, we don't get much snow in Memphis, but wouldn't you like to get in front of my camera if I can keep the shots tastefully explicit.[/QUOTE]GM she could melt snow out of a rock. Who needs the sun at 93 million miles away when you melt snow closer to home with her.

[QUOTE=Scup1958;2065105]Tasteful but not explicit. But it sure makes little Scup sit up and take notice.

Here's missing you kid.[/QUOTE]Ah yes. Some tasteful Glockshots are in order.

It was brought to my attention via text that a provider is bad mouthing me. People change well I have 21 months sober on Saturday I am not the same uncaring woman I once was.

Also some of the things said was very untrue. So I would appreciate if you would please keep Stormy out of your mouth. I have apologized for my wrongs and have moved forward from the past. Riding off into the sunset on bigger things.

Much love,

Stormy.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2065254]Ah yes. Some tasteful Glockshots are in order.[/QUOTE]A camera. Want to play?

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;2065371]A camera. Want to play?[/QUOTE]GM makes the playground a lot fun in cincy. I always thought cameras are a great ice breaker.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;2065371][b] I have[/b] A camera. Want to play?[/QUOTE]I would love for us to get together and play with each other's equipment.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;2065371]A camera. Want to play?[/QUOTE]I'm looking forward to a GoPro session with Molly. A POV video of Molly's DNA extraction technique sounds like fun.

[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2065306]So I would appreciate if you would please keep Stormy out of your mouth. [/QUOTE]Hmmm... I was actually thinking that you would be pretty good in my mouth! Love that ass shot of you!

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=Rudiger;2064820]Discussion boards live and die in how well the quality and quantity of the comments are balanced.[/QUOTE]Heartily agree with this! I may be newish here, but I've spent countless hours on discussion boards both good and bad. IMHO, the best boards / forums have moderation that is, well, moderate. Too heavy-handed and the amount of actual discussion will drop off. Too light, or too permissive, and the quality plummets. Neither is a good situation regarding the long-term health of the board.

Banning the provider along with her 'sock-puppet' accounts is totally reasonable and prudent. That sort of moderating action is necessary to prevent us from being overrun with trolls, shills, spam, etc. Someone like that will only cause trouble over time. If she's really a good provider, there wouldn't seem to be any need to do that anyway. I know some hobbyists are hesitant to post negative reviews, but I think most will post a positive review when it's called for.

However, I'm not sure I entirely agree with the concept of banning all {mention} of the guilty provider. I understand you don't want to enable that kind of behavior and don't want them to unfairly take advantage of the board. There is still potentially very useful intel to be had there though. Suppose a new hobbyist joins the board some time from now, reads and absorbs all the admonitions to "post intel before asking for any". I've seen, more than once, the advice to a newbie to TOFTT and then report back in order to gain some credibility. So since he sees no mention of this guilty provider (good or bad) on the board, he decides he would possibly be proving some good info by seeing her and making his first report. But whether he has a bad experience or a great one, he won't be able to share it. If it was positive, not too big a deal, she'll just lose out on a bit of advertising. But if it was negative, then some other monger down the line may well fall victim as well.

Perhaps Molly's suggestion of a note indicating that the provider has been found to use shill accounts in the past would be more informative. It still lets people know to be skeptical of positive reviews by a new poster, and it allows them to make an informed decision when the report is from an established poster. Far be it from me to suggest an increase in anyone's workload normally. . . However, this doesn't seem like a big increase over the current method of erasing posts and warning posters. Perhaps it is, I don't have experience on the administrative side of message boards. My impression of the moderation here is pretty good, so I'm just providing another viewpoint rather than making a complaint. Stay safe and good luck everyone!

[QUOTE=BigBird69;2065711]Hmmm... I was actually thinking that you would be pretty good in my mouth! Love that ass shot of you!

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]You can put me in your mouth that way. While I put you in my mouth. Thank you.

Much love,

Stormy.

[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2065306]It was brought to my attention via text that a provider is bad mouthing me. People change well I have 21 months sober on Saturday I am not the same uncaring woman I once was.

Also some of the things said was very untrue. So I would appreciate if you would please keep Stormy out of your mouth. I have apologized for my wrongs and have moved forward from the past. Riding off into the sunset on bigger things.

Much love,

Stormy.[/QUOTE]Thats not the point Stormy. I simply warned other providers as to who you were. I didn't say you currently were. I just know from experience what it was like. Anyone can apologize. I just don't see it being heartfelt. I think the only reason you are apologizing is so you somehow put your own guilty conscience to rest. I am and always will be a great person and you took advantage of that some things can't be undone with a simple apology. Too much damage was done so with that I wish you the best but I had every right to warn others. I thought the whole purpose of all of us working together was to keep everyone informed and safe for that I will not apologize.

The water cold, the water cold!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWPy57lnnWE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2065306]It was brought to my attention via text that a provider is bad mouthing me. People change well I have 21 months sober on Saturday I am not the same uncaring woman I once was.

Also some of the things said was very untrue. So I would appreciate if you would please keep Stormy out of your mouth. I have apologized for my wrongs and have moved forward from the past. Riding off into the sunset on bigger things.

Much love,

Stormy.[/QUOTE]If they are bad mouthing you babe or another provider period, then they are just jealous and / or have nothing better to do. Just sit back and laugh for the fact that someone is that bored to be worried about you. No one is perfect and no one should claim to be. And everyone makes mistakes, so don't be sorry for something you fixed. Be proud about it babe.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;2065827]Thats not the point Stormy. I simply warned other providers as to who you were. I didn't say you currently were. I just know from experience what it was like. Anyone can apologize. I just don't see it being heartfelt. I think the only reason you are apologizing is so you somehow put your own guilty conscience to rest. I am and always will be a great person and you took advantage of that some things can't be undone with a simple apology. Too much damage was done so with that I wish you the best but I had every right to warn others. I thought the whole purpose of all of us working together was to keep everyone informed and safe for that I will not apologize.[/QUOTE]No when you say something make sure you know the truth about what you text. I have never laid my hands on anyone. I have never been charged with assault. My only charge ever is financial. What happened between us should have never happened and I don't have a guilty conscience I have a sober well being. I don't expect you to forgive but I can stay well and sober admitting my wrongs. My prayers are with you.

Much love,

Stormy

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2066100]If they are bad mouthing you babe or another provider period, then they are just jealous and / or have nothing better to do. Just sit back and laugh for the fact that someone is that bored to be worried about you. No one is perfect and no one should claim to be. And everyone makes mistakes, so don't be sorry for something you fixed. Be proud about it babe.[/QUOTE]I can't wait to meet you. If your as sweet as Summer then your great. My head is held high and I can only pray. Thank you again.

Much love,

Stormy

[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2065306]It was brought to my attention via text that a provider is bad mouthing me. People change well I have 21 months sober on Saturday I am not the same uncaring woman I once was.

Also some of the things said was very untrue. So I would appreciate if you would please keep Stormy out of your mouth. I have apologized for my wrongs and have moved forward from the past. Riding off into the sunset on bigger things.

Much love,

Stormy.[/QUOTE]Why would somebody text this young lady and tell them what, somebody else said? I don't know about other people but where I come from if a person tells you something about another person you don't go run your mouth. To me that's just starting shit and very juvenile. Now you have 2 people I guess who had their differences in the past back at each other, and why? Because somebody couldn't just listen to what was said they had to go tell it. Sorry I guess I'm just old school I go by the old rule MYOB, Mind Your Own Buisness. HL29.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2064279][BLUE]In another city I discovered a provider that had 7 aliases where she was posting as a monger to solicit business. Per forum SOP I pronounced the death sentence on the chick. Nobody was allowed to post reviews about her. I specifically warned the seniors that if somebody did it once I would warn them, if they did it twice I would put them back on moderation. Some guy (long time member) who liked this chick decided to give me a big fuck you and the next two posts in the thread immediately following mine, were from the same guy saying I shouldn't do this and she's a good provider.

In other words, I said "don't do it twice" and he said, "ok, here's two times." So I put him on moderation.

Since you guys don't have a dog in the fight what say you? Should I not deny the benefit of the forum to chicks that make fake profiles and post as mongers? Should I not prohibit guys from writing reviews about chicks that do that? Was putting that guy back on moderation a dick move? Even though this is written in blue, if you think I was a power mad nazi faggot cocksucker with delusions of grandeur you can say that. (that's my most commonly received insult)

Your responses will weigh heavily in how we go forward on this issue forum wide.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Obviously she has violated a clear rule, and your SOP was followed. It's your board and sanction the guy as you see fit, but keep in mind once you strip away the circumstances, all this guy really did is think with his dick. So let he without sin cast the first stone. We often give folks a second chance when they post while intoxicated to retract or clarify their previous post. Maybe you should consider letting this guy get sober from being pussy drunk?

[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2062966]My dream has come true! Cupcake may want to eventually go independent but for the summer at least we are keeping Cincinnati's Best Duo Together!

This was a team decision the 3 of us have made.

Sorry for the confusion. The blame is on me for premature posting!

Buddah.[/QUOTE]Sigh. I'm glad your dream came true, even as my (as wishfully impossible as it may have been) bubble was burst.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG7-b3sssBg[/URL]

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2066508]Why would somebody text this young lady and tell them what, somebody else said? I don't know about other people but where I come from if a person tells you something about another person you don't go run your mouth. To me that's just starting shit and very juvenile. Now you have 2 people I guess who had their differences in the past back at each other, and why? Because somebody couldn't just listen to what was said they had to go tell it. Sorry I guess I'm just old school I go by the old rule MYOB, Mind Your Own Buisness. HL29.[/QUOTE]I definately agree with you babe. Exspecially with women, things get blown out of proportion. I do hope that these two ladies can work things out and that stormy stays sober. They are both highly talked about and loved with the board and the gentlemen. Plus there is always three sides to the story, he said she said and then the truth. No one has to like each other but as long as we all get along and can continue to vouch refs for one another to keep each other safe, then we can go on and keep the peace here. I like silk very much and she has always been helpful, but with her being pregnant, maybe the past should be the past because that little bundle of joy is what's most important. I would not ever wish stress on a pregnant women nor someone who is trying to stay sober. I wish both you ladies the best and hope you all can get past this.

[QUOTE=PhatDaty;2066551]Sigh. I'm glad your dream came true, even as my (as wishfully impossible as it may have been) bubble was burst.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG7-b3sssBg[/URL][/QUOTE]I know your ego won't let you believe this but...Sasha and Cupcake refuse to see you!

I don't trust you (and you know why) but, I know your a good hobbyist normally.

With me, you and the girls its different. I let you behind the scenes...as a friend and your personal demons came out.

Your a normally good man...but you know when you don't get your way...you become unhindged and say some scarey shit.

I'd like to have lunch sometime and discuss ending all this drama your still dealing with.

Buddah.

I just want to say that I can't understand why more and more providers are not and will not do references. We should be a sisterhood or at least care for one another here to keep our community safe. Thank you to silk, summer, ally, Sassy Sexy, Molly for always getting back to me for references. If I forgot a name or two I am sorry. But just about all providers here and elsewhere say they want and do reference checks but in reality a lot don't do them. I had someone call me today to set up an appointment and he gave me three refs and not one person would return a call or text. I think it's sad that people can care so less about others. Let's understand one thing ladies, these men are not married to us, don't belong to us and don't have to stick to just you. This is about having fun and having variety. Sorry for ranting but this has gotten me all upset because this is about everyone's saftey. I have and always will gave references. Why do people have to be so rude or careless. I will never understand.

Stormy,

I don't work very much anymore, not often at all in fact, but due to some dishonest, mean person stealing my wallet off the tank bus last evening while riding home after nursing class, I had fell asleep, I am now without cash and a nice coach wallet, LOL, I'm posting for the weekend.

I have been reading the posts back and forth.

I'm not who I was a year ago either. Life is a journey, one we don't get to experience for too long and along the way, we mature, change, grow into who we are. We learn from mistakes, such as I will regarding my Wallet, and we move on.

That's all we can do.

If you and Silk don't get along, the best thing is to just ignore one another.

Hopefully the two of you can at least be civil. We all should look out for one another and be supporters of each other.

I'm happy to welcome you back to the business and I wish you well.

I hope all the best for everyone.

Dawn.

But has anyone ever taken the steps to have relations with a nun? Not a fetish, otherwise I'd buy the head dress and have someone wear it. This is taking it to another level, seeing if they go for the forbidden fruit. (banana).

Temptation is something I know can be answered in prayer, confessional booth. A nurse I dated years ago that took care of numerous nuns across her profession said those women kept sex toys in full demand. I've got a ton to answer at the pearly gates and I might as well have my religion as I go.

I am dead serious about this topic. Got my eye on two that I get along with really well and some human comfort (something they never feel) could be the difference between an exclusive moment and the keyway to something unique. Of course, this won't work on man haters or straight up lesbians.

I just want to be there for the furor of that first orgasm by human touch. 10 hail marys and 10 acts of contrition. I'm ready and polished and know the words by heart.

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2066778]I just want to say that I can't understand why more and more providers are not and will not do references. We should be a sisterhood or at least care for one another here to keep our community safe. Thank you to silk, summer, ally, Sassy Sexy, Molly for always getting back to me for references. If I forgot a name or two I am sorry. But just about all providers here and elsewhere say they want and do reference checks but in reality a lot don't do them. I had someone call me today to set up an appointment and he gave me three refs and not one person would return a call or text. I think it's sad that people can care so less about others. Let's understand one thing ladies, these men are not married to us, don't belong to us and don't have to stick to just you. This is about having fun and having variety. Sorry for ranting but this has gotten me all upset because this is about everyone's saftey. I have and always will gave references. Why do people have to be so rude or careless. I will never understand.[/QUOTE]Feel free to contact me anytime and I will get back to you ASAP.

Much love,

Stormy.

[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2066580]I know your ego won't let you believe this but...Sasha and Cupcake refuse to see you![/QUOTE]
I understand Sasha not wanting to see me and to be honest the feeling is mutual there. Cupcake, I do not get, unless she was perhaps told a few things OUT OF CONTEXT, whether it was intentional or not, let's be completely honest and admit there may have been some influence by hearing only one side of the story.

[QUOTE]I don't trust you (and you know why) but, I know your a good hobbyist normally.[/QUOTE]
I don't trust you either, and you know why, but I do believe you to normally be a fair, honest, serious, and careful hobby organizer.

[QUOTE]With me, you and the girls its different. I let you behind the scenes...as a friend and your personal demons came out.[/QUOTE]
Sadly it seems we were not capable of being both friends and doing business. This isn't this first time this has occurred in the hobby, and it won't be the last time. We were fools to think we would have been immune to the pitfalls that happen when you try to do both. If we are being mutually transparent, I did say some vile things, accused you of things I thought to be true, but I later learned were not, and did lose my temper, but I was not the only one that had a few demons slip out. A few of yours did too. I regret what happen, own my part in it, wish I could take back much of what I said and I have apologized to you.

[quote]Your a normally good man...but you know when you don't get your way...you become unhindged and say some scarey shit.[/quote]
You too are a good man, and I don't just mean as a professional but the way you generally treat most people. You are a good-natured person, and not to embarrass you, but kind of a jolly fellow like Falstaff, which I rather like about you and will miss. With that said however, you too can say some VERY scary stuff when you don't get your way, and I think you remember what I am talking about, and perhaps it is one of those things where we are just too much alike to ever really be able to be in the same orbit together. We bring out the worst in each other.

[quote]I'd like to have lunch sometime and discuss ending all this drama your still dealing with.[/quote]
There is no need for lunch. I think those days are past us. I will miss them. Best of luck to you and the ladies. I will miss Cupcake. She is simply amazing and I was hoping that if the conflict between you and I was no longer intruding, that Cupcake and I could go back to having mind-blowing sex on a pretty regular basis. In fact I would fill her dance card.

I've had the pleasure with Cupcake, what a doll. I'm really starting to dream about a duo with both. I think that will just blow me away. My thinking is, I better jump on this and soon before I something could possibility change. I've never had a duo and maybe doing this could start my summer off with a DOUBLE WHAMMY!

This is Christa from nearby Jackson, Tennessee. Met up with her yesterday and she more than meets my requirements. Not a spinner, but has curves in all the right places. And she swallows.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2067053]This is Christa from nearby Jackson, Tennessee. Met up with her yesterday and she more than meets my requirements. Not a spinner, but has curves in all the right places. And she swallows.[/QUOTE]My friend Glockman: Anthony Hopkins has a line in a show CHARM. We're do you get all that charm. That is my taste also and hope some of those dreams come my way. Thanks.

[QUOTE=NKYGentleman;2067003]I've had the pleasure with Cupcake, what a doll. I'm really starting to dream about a duo with both. I think that will just blow me away. My thinking is, I better jump on this and soon before I something could possibility change. I've never had a duo and maybe doing this could start my summer off with a DOUBLE WHAMMY![/QUOTE]You have NEVER done a duo? I didn't think any virgins existed. I know guys that aren't into them (I never quite trust them) but never done one! My poor brother there is no bill you have to pay that is more important than doing this if you want to. You might get hit by a bus tomorrow and who cares about an unpaid bill then.