Massage Parlor Reports

Yeah, they act like they don't get but $10 out of a $60 massage. I've heard they get half of whatever the price is. So this twat made $30 for a lackluster massage. And she didn't even do what I told her that I needed done as far as the massage was concerned. Instead of working the areas I needed she oiled my ass and undercarriage up for 25 minutes. Teasing and building up a lather. And then she expects for me to take care of myself. Not a chance. If they'd take their shirt off and let me blow on their face, I'd have no problem tipping then. But this one yesterday wanted me to do it and wasn't about to allow mutual touching. Hell, what was I thinking not tipping, LOL! What was funny was when she was saying "I give you good massage", I said, no you didn't and even if you did, that's what you're supposed to fucking do. I didn't come in here expecting you to give me an estimate on building me a deck. Fuck them.

[QUOTE=SpaTrucker;3657690]5 STARS!

I have told many of them the same. No HJ, no tip! I am not going to pay someone to watch me jerk off. They usually get pissed, but so what? You're not getting what you want now, what is she going to do? ***** and moan and still not give you a helping hand. I've been going to spas for years. In my younger days I got turned on at the thought of a pretty young thing watching me play with myself, but not anymore. Stand up for yourself guys and say.

"No HJ, No Tip![/QUOTE]

Tips go to the offending hand; self service means I keep the money.

Pearl Massage learned this very lesson again last week. My second non-tip visit there.
Edit: oops, wrong city (Montgomery).

I completely agree. I can do that for one month. Came on here to ask a question about H Massage on 280 but nevermind! I'm down with the boycott. Someone mentioned that at one point even the thought of a nice young asian watching use to be a turn on and I thought that too years ago but that's not enough. Can we come together and keep away until Jan 15,2018 at least if not until February. We have a couple AMPs in Montgomery that I and others have success at but I'm still willing to keep away even from those. Will be tough though for us with only fatties available on BP. LOL. #NOMOREDIY.

[QUOTE=JoeDeertay;3657251]Ok guys I need all of you that frequent these no good, tease and rub massage places, to stop going. All of you that have gave these winches tips for having them watch YOU jerk yourself off, have absolutely ruined everything. I was over in Vestavia today and after waking up stiff as hell this morning I decided to go into Kung Fu. Wasn't looking for anything other than some relief. No cars around in the parking lot, and wasn't sure they were open. As I got closer I saw the sign on so I went in. Was led to the room by a butterface. I told her 60 minutes and got undressed. She came back in, asked the obligatory "you want soft, medium or hard?" I told her I was stiff all over especially in my lower back, butt and hamstrings, but I wanted an all over massage. She starts oiling me up and she has so much oil on me that actually working a muscle is impossible. I commented that she has too much oil and what she's doing isn't accomplishing anything. Of course when you tell them something other than basic questions, they all go Sammy Sosa on you. She moves down toward my lower back and ass and adds more oil and starts the rubbing in between the cheeks and down towards the gooch and stays there for at least 25 minutes. Just a soft, oily rub all around my ass and inner thighs. After awhile I flip, she turns out the lights and adds oil to my stomach and starts rubbing around, so I just take her hand and move it toward my dick and she pulls away and says "oh no, can't do that. " She said " you can do, I get oil. " I said "I don't want to do it, I want you to do it. " "Oh no can't. " So I tell her, "I can't give you a tip. " "No teep, why not?" I told her that I didn't tip for regular service. Then she says "I give good massage, right?" I said, "no, actually it wasn't good. It was a waste of time. " And of course she's lost all comprehension of the English language. So I say "no good!" I told her if she wants a tip, then she should get busy. She says no again. Says "I can do and she rubs all around it. " I said no thanks. And then she starts with the "everyone gives something. They do themselves and teep me. " I said I'm not everyone and I'm not tipping you for something I can do for free. So the massage was over at this point. She picks up her little bucket of tools and opens the door, slams it and leaves. I get dressed, and count my money before I open the door. I'm not giving this ***** a penny over $60. I go out and she hands me a water, I giver her the money and she counts it and says AGAIN "what, no teep?" "I told her I'm not giving you a fucking tip for doing nothing. You're lucky I give you that. And she says "everyone give a teep of at least $10. " I told her again that I wasn't giving her a mother fucking thing, and that her massage sucked and it was a waste of my time and money. So she tells me"you no come back. " I tell her to fuck off and then leave. All of that bullshit was directly related to each one of you that have gone in there, and all the other places around town that do business the same fucking way, and tipped the bitches for nothing. Other than why'all putting on a show jacking off for them. So, I'm asking you. Stop fucking going in these places. Kung Fu, both places in Alabaster, Homewood, the two in Trussville, Sunny, Foot, H, and other place you all continuously go to. For the most part the reason they are there, which is to give massages, they aren't very good at that. Now they are a few places on that list that at one time, when all the planet's were aligned some rogue girl gave a helping hand. But not anymore. They need to go. If you all choose to go and get massages at any of these places, pay the massage and nothing else. But I would really like it you all would get behind this and just boycott them. You do that for a month or two and their business will start to suffer and they'll be gone.[/QUOTE]The ones I know.

Lilly - 280.

Iknead. Pelham.

Lotus - 280.

Angel. Hoover.

Sunny Acuwell. Hoover.

Panda. Alabaster.

Panda. Homewood.

H - 280.

Foot. Hoover.

Kung Fu. Vestavia.

Deep Roots - 280.

If I'm missing any, please share. These are all AMP's, I won't step foot in these places. They don't give a Damn about you, me or anyone else. Fuck them! They are all in for the money!

There's a new massage place advertising on Craigslist. Called Lily of all things. Just like the one off 280 in Brook Highland, except this one is in Chelsea. Don't be a fool and go try it out. Boycott them and all the others. Send a message to them.

[QUOTE=AlabamaGuy12;3658434]The ones I know.

Lilly - 280.

Iknead. Pelham.

Lotus - 280.

Angel. Hoover.

Sunny Acuwell. Hoover.

Panda. Alabaster.

Panda. Homewood.

H - 280.

Foot. Hoover.

Kung Fu. Vestavia.

Deep Roots - 280.

If I'm missing any, please share. These are all AMP's, I won't step foot in these places. They don't give a Damn about you, me or anyone else. Fuck them! They are all in for the money![/QUOTE]This is very encouraging guys if this sort of thing had been enacted a year or two back there would be very few if any of these places as long as people go there with any expectation other than it's a tease joint you're not going to get anything but a massage for your money and even that may not be very good then these places will continue to thrive. They like for you to believe that if you make multiple visits things will improve and you'll eventually get something but that's not the way it works in a real Asian massage parlor as we all know. I think the idea that you guys are banding together to put up a united front to boycott these places is a terrific idea share information with each other anytime a new joint pops up be sure that that name gets shared in the forum and everyone can avoid it like the plague I doubt that they get tons of business that are quote unquote from the non hobby community so if the word gets around well enough perhaps we'll see some of this bulshit dry up and blow away good job fellas. MJ.

[QUOTE=JoeDeertay;3658465]There's a new massage place advertising on Craigslist. Called Lily of all things. Just like the one off 280 in Brook Highland, except this one is in Chelsea. Don't be a fool and go try it out. Boycott them and all the others. Send a message to them.[/QUOTE]Damn just forgot about Tranquil in alabaster, been there many times and leave with blue balls. Oh BTW they use to always only use Craigslist for advertising now they have this hot misleading ad on Backpage trying to lure your ass in for bullshit. Keep your money, massage is bullshit, load your ass with oil teasing the hell out of you and then get pissed with No Teep. Bella still works there, hot spinner that can tease like a pro. Fuckem all!

You have two in Trussvile area, Tranquil in Alabaster, the new Lily in Chelsea, and not sure if it's still there but there was a place in the Colonnade. And something else, Tranquil, Deep Roots and the newer place in Trussville are under the same umbrella.

[QUOTE=AlabamaGuy12;3658434]The ones I know.

Lilly - 280.

Iknead. Pelham.

Lotus - 280.

Angel. Hoover.

Sunny Acuwell. Hoover.

Panda. Alabaster.

Panda. Homewood.

H - 280.

Foot. Hoover.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys. Just wanted to share my two days of successful boycotting. I've felt the urge to go, but stood my ground last night, in the form of a friend with benefits. LOL. Technically 5 days without an AMP but only 2 days since knowing of boycott. Be strong guys!

I have boycotted all as well. I miss Yoshiko. Especially Cherry.

[QUOTE=AlabamaGuy12;3657219]Looks like Lotus is back up and going. Anyone paid a visit please PM.

Bamaguy.[/QUOTE]Went to try it out, new woman. The worst rub and mechanical HJ. Waste of money. Used to be great place, owner needs to train them to meet her standard.

Well, join the fight and stay the hell out of them.

[QUOTE=RubnTugn;3660442]Went to try it out, new woman. The worst rub and mechanical HJ. Waste of money. Used to be great place, owner needs to train them to meet her standard.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RubnTugn;3660442]Went to try it out, new woman. The worst rub and mechanical HJ. Waste of money. Used to be great place, owner needs to train them to meet her standard.[/QUOTE]Rub we are all tired of spending our hard earned money on this bullshit. Please join us, make the stand on however long it takes. These AMP owners are counting our money and laughing all the way to the bank for BULLSHIT. I don't know about other board members but I have spent a wad the past few years and sick of it. My suggestion, stay away from all of them, I don't give a damn if you got a piss poor HJ or what. A HJ is no different than a fucked up DIY. If we ALL reach out to some decent BP girls and PM share with each other the good ones and post the piece of shit wrecked out ones on the boards we can be somewhat satisfy our needs. It's the only way to turn it around for Birmingham, face it theres 15 or so of these damn AMP's somebody is paying their fucking bills to keep the lights on and doors open. I'm done with this shit!!

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[QUOTE=SpaTrucker;3657690]5 STARS!

I have told many of them the same. No HJ, no tip! I am not going to pay someone to watch me jerk off. They usually get pissed, but so what? You're not getting what you want now, what is she going to do? ***** and moan and still not give you a helping hand. I've been going to spas for years. In my younger days I got turned on at the thought of a pretty young thing watching me play with myself, but not anymore. Stand up for yourself guys and say.

"No HJ, No Tip![/QUOTE]I'm on board with you. No HE, No Tip. I know of a spot in Montgomery that gives it tho. PM for deets.

[QUOTE=AlabamaGuy12;3660525]Rub we are all tired of spending our hard earned money on this bullshit. Please join us, make the stand on however long it takes. These AMP owners are counting our money and laughing all the way to the bank for BULLSHIT. I don't know about other board members but I have spent a wad the past few years and sick of it. My suggestion, stay away from all of them, I don't give a damn if you got a piss poor HJ or what. A HJ is no different than a fucked up DIY. If we ALL reach out to some decent BP girls and PM share with each other the good ones and post the piece of shit wrecked out ones on the boards we can be somewhat satisfy our needs. It's the only way to turn it around for Birmingham, face it theres 15 or so of these damn AMP's somebody is paying their fucking bills to keep the lights on and doors open. I'm done with this shit!![/QUOTE]Damn Skippy! What you said. MJ.

[QUOTE=California1;3663126]I'm on board with you. No HE, No Tip. I know of a spot in Montgomery that gives it tho. PM for deets.[/QUOTE]No money AT ALL for any of these bullshit tease joints that's an even better idea. MJ.

[QUOTE=MammieJammer;3663857]No money AT ALL for any of these bullshit tease joints that's an even better idea. MJ.[/QUOTE]Guess that answers my question if any AMP offers FS here huh? Staying in Hoover on my way to CA. Really do need a massage but also wanted some extra. BP I'm guessing?

Ocean and One can accommodate what you want. Any place else forget about it.

[QUOTE=EmvLa;3664596]Guess that answers my question if any AMP offers FS here huh? Staying in Hoover on my way to CA. Really do need a massage but also wanted some extra. BP I'm guessing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeDeertay;3664678]Ocean and One can accommodate what you want. Any place else forget about it.[/QUOTE]What are the girls like at ocean or one now?

I've lurked here on and off for quite a while.

But I haven't heard any new favorable reviews that entices me to risk getting my face on the news to try either one.

[QUOTE=TWonder24;3667934]What are the girls like at ocean or one now?

I've lurked here on and off for quite a while.

But I haven't heard any new favorable reviews that entices me to risk getting my face on the news to try either one.[/QUOTE]At One ancient; literally 50 or older. At Ocean late 30's to early 40's. The women look better at Ocean sometimes you can catch one there that's pretty cute but if you're looking for a pretty girl you're going to do better on Backpage or some other escort site. MJ.

[QUOTE=TWonder24;3667934]What are the girls like at ocean or one now?

.[/QUOTE]Like 16 in a black jack game.

How's the boycott going? I, for one haven't gone to any of them. Of course I'm the one that started the damn thing, LOL. Hope you all are doing the same. Hit them where it hurts.

So this is my take on all of the DIY places. I know everyone hates them or thinks they are going to be like the old school centerpoint places. I personally do not mind a one hour massage for $60. And even if I have to do it myself at the end so what. I was probably going to do it myself later that night anyway. But I think I've found a loophole. Today I went to one and the lady gave me the 10 minute warning. Of course I tried to play dumb and see if she would do it. Finally I said ok I will do this but you rub the boys. She agreed and as I began a grabbed her hand and started Ted using her hand to do it. She moved it away after a minute but I did it again and she laughed and said ok. Then she took over. Who knows, maybe my lucky day but it's worth another shot. I tipped her $10.

[QUOTE=JoeDeertay;3669545]How's the boycott going? I, for one haven't gone to any of them. Of course I'm the one that started the damn thing, LOL. Hope you all are doing the same. Hit them where it hurts.[/QUOTE]You are not alone in your boycott.

C'Mon. Dude. Do you think anyone is going to buy that story? Just about every place in town the woman will cuss you out if you don't tip for them just doing a massage and maybe teasing your asshole. So why we would believe that one was ok with you basically forcing her to jerk you off, and then giving her a big $10 tip. Personally, I'm not buying it. And you didn't find any loophole. Everyone on here that has done that same thing, will tell that they will immediately pull their arm away as many times as you grab it, and will literally leave you with your dick in your hand. If you're that hard up to be jerked off, go to 1st avenue. Hell, you could've gotten blown or jerked off 3-4 times for what you spent on that.

[QUOTE=Socom36;3669726]So this is my take on all of the DIY places. I know everyone hates them or thinks they are going to be like the old school centerpoint places. I personally do not mind a one hour massage for $60. And even if I have to do it myself at the end so what. I was probably going to do it myself later that night anyway. But I think I've found a loophole. Today I went to one and the lady gave me the 10 minute warning. Of course I tried to play dumb and see if she would do it. Finally I said ok I will do this but you rub the boys. She agreed and as I began a grabbed her hand and started Ted using her hand to do it. She moved it away after a minute but I did it again and she laughed and said ok. Then she took over. Who knows, maybe my lucky day but it's worth another shot. I tipped her $10.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Socom36;3669726]So this is my take on all of the DIY places. I know everyone hates them or thinks they are going to be like the old school centerpoint places. I personally do not mind a one hour massage for $60. And even if I have to do it myself at the end so what. I was probably going to do it myself later that night anyway. But I think I've found a loophole. Today I went to one and the lady gave me the 10 minute warning. Of course I tried to play dumb and see if she would do it. Finally I said ok I will do this but you rub the boys. She agreed and as I began a grabbed her hand and started Ted using her hand to do it. She moved it away after a minute but I did it again and she laughed and said ok. Then she took over. Who knows, maybe my lucky day but it's worth another shot. I tipped her $10.[/QUOTE]I won't reveal which establishment on here as it seems as soon as someone does it gets shutdown. Please PM more details on yours and if different place I may try it also--I also will tell you my location if you request. Mine was nothing special--a 5 on the looks meter at best. Good massage and very friendly. It was my second visit with her. First visit I was encouraged to diy and the little head was begging so I complied. This second visit I went more for a release than just massage. I was determined. The tease started. Grazing the boys and wrist touch benjamin on the slide by. After a few minutes out comes the oil bottle and the attempt to put in my hand. I took the oil. Applied it. Took her hand in mine and started the dance. She lightly resisted but didn't pull away and finally after 30 seconds or so she took full control and shifted the gears all by her little self. It was a much needed soft draining release and I overtipped but I so needed it. I didn't mind. Made my night and I'm sure hers also. Got the standard finger to lips and ssshhh! On the way out. No idea if she will provide for others but I will go back just for the massage and if the mood hits I think she will take matters into her own hands now.

[QUOTE=JoeDeertay;3670084]C'Mon. Dude. Do you think anyone is going to buy that story? Just about every place in town the woman will cuss you out if you don't tip for them just doing a massage and maybe teasing your asshole. So why we would believe that one was ok with you basically forcing her to jerk you off, and then giving her a big $10 tip. Personally, I'm not buying it. And you didn't find any loophole. Everyone on here that has done that same thing, will tell that they will immediately pull their arm away as many times as you grab it, and will literally leave you with your dick in your hand. If you're that hard up to be jerked off, go to 1st avenue. Hell, you could've gotten blown or jerked off 3-4 times for what you spent on that.[/QUOTE]I'm just telling you my experience. Believe it or not. It's not like I'm saying I found the holy grail. People are just always on here bashing these places and I am simply saying that my experience was a little different. And I didn't force her in to anything. I just think most people say ok I will do it myself and I just asked her for a little help. And yeah I probably could have gotten blown for less but $70 for a one hour massage and HE didn't break the bank so I'm ok with that. Plus I didn't have to go downtown to the slums to do it.

[QUOTE=JoeDeertay;3670084]C'Mon. Dude. Do you think anyone is going to buy that story? Just about every place in town the woman will cuss you out if you don't tip for them just doing a massage and maybe teasing your asshole. So why we would believe that one was ok with you basically forcing her to jerk you off, and then giving her a big $10 tip. Personally, I'm not buying it. And you didn't find any loophole. Everyone on here that has done that same thing, will tell that they will immediately pull their arm away as many times as you grab it, and will literally leave you with your dick in your hand. If you're that hard up to be jerked off, go to 1st avenue. Hell, you could've gotten blown or jerked off 3-4 times for what you spent on that.[/QUOTE]That's for sure or you could has spent an hour with a quality provider with full service and everything on the menu. These places are a joke and I hate all of them and they will never get one more Penny of my money ever. MJ.

So which one of the places was it?

[QUOTE=Socom36;3670317]I'm just telling you my experience. Believe it or not. It's not like I'm saying I found the holy grail. People are just always on here bashing these places and I am simply saying that my experience was a little different. And I didn't force her in to anything. I just think most people say ok I will do it myself and I just asked her for a little help. And yeah I probably could have gotten blown for less but $70 for a one hour massage and HE didn't break the bank so I'm ok with that. Plus I didn't have to go downtown to the slums to do it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BuckInHere;3669810]You are not alone in your boycott.[/QUOTE]I'm still going strong as well. I do have a utr massage gal down in Montgomery area that I still see, but she's a darn unicorn I tell ya, gorgeous brunette and doesn't break the bank. But no AMPs! Personally I buy the guys story below because I've done that successfully at typically no extras spots in BHM and MGM but not with enough consistency to report. Either way, I hope guys are joining our boycotting efforts! Especially if you are local and have been a regular supporter of these establishments for years. I promise the temporary sacrifice of staying away will benefit us all over time. Go to massage envy or a non AMP if you still must have your body massages! But know by visiting AMPs you are fighting against us and what we are trying to do. And we are the same ones that you will be sending PMs to asking for info later. LOL. #operationnodiyamps #noamps #boycottamps.

Guys, just got wind the AMP Lily that just opened in Chelsea is another BULLSHIT money TAKER. Was told the same people owns Angel in Hoover and Lotus on 280. So am I either in the wrong business or I am fucking crazy. To keep the doors open on three of these fuckers is beyond me, stick to our guns guys, BOYCOTT another few months and we should see some things change. There is money going in somewhere, damn sure not getting from me. I'm asking again, grow some balls and AVOID these places.

Bamaguy.

I don't know about the same people owning it. If they do, that'd be 4 that they own. The ones you mentioned plus the other Lily on 280 next to PNC bank. And that particular location is running on fumes. I go by there routinely and there's no one ever there.

[QUOTE=AlabamaGuy12;3670944]Guys, just got wind the AMP Lily that just opened in Chelsea is another BULLSHIT money TAKER. Was told the same people owns Angel in Hoover and Lotus on 280. So am I either in the wrong business or I am fucking crazy. To keep the doors open on three of these fuckers is beyond me, stick to our guns guys, BOYCOTT another few months and we should see some things change. There is money going in somewhere, damn sure not getting from me. I'm asking again, grow some balls and AVOID these places.

Bamaguy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeDeertay;3671391]I don't know about the same people owning it. If they do, that'd be 4 that they own. The ones you mentioned plus the other Lily on 280 next to PNC bank. And that particular location is running on fumes. I go by there routinely and there's no one ever there.[/QUOTE]The Lily in Chelsea is a different owner than the other three. The place gives a shitty massage so if that is what you are into, you found a great place to go. LOL.

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I have been following your quest to shutdown all of the Birmingham AMP's and I have to say that I just don't get it for a couple of reasons.

1. They advertise that they are massage businesses, not ***** houses. If you want a hooker, you should get one off backpage, they have a lot of them there.

2. Although there may have been a rogue girl or two in the past that would do much more than you are getting today, it does not mean that they all are that way. Why do you think you can coerce people into being a ***** with a little money? Not trying to be adversarial, just an observation.

I am married and go to the AMP's because I want a good massage and some teasing to keep things interesting. I've got to know some of the girls at different shops and some will go the extra mile but not to the degree you expect. I'm actually very happy with my results and don't mind the price for the value I get.

Good luck with your cause, I'm sure it won't make much of a difference.

[QUOTE=BobUpAndDown;3672697]I have been following your quest to shutdown all of the Birmingham AMP's and I have to say that I just don't get it for a couple of reasons.

1. They advertise that they are massage businesses, not ***** houses. If you want a hooker, you should get one off backpage, they have a lot of them there.

2. Although there may have been a rogue girl or two in the past that would do much more than you are getting today, it does not mean that they all are that way. Why do you think you can coerce people into being a ***** with a little money? Not trying to be adversarial, just an observation.

I am married and go to the AMP's because I want a good massage and some teasing to keep things interesting. I've got to know some of the girls at different shops and some will go the extra mile but not to the degree you expect. I'm actually very happy with my results and don't mind the price for the value I get.

Good luck with your cause, I'm sure it won't make much of a difference.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. I think these women are just trying to make money and keep themselves out of trouble. I am thankful that they will do as much as they do. If you want more, there are other Asian places offer it in Bham and of course there is Backpage.

[QUOTE=BobUpAndDown;3672697]I have been following your quest to shutdown all of the Birmingham AMP's and I have to say that I just don't get it for a couple of reasons.

1. They advertise that they are massage businesses, not ***** houses. If you want a hooker, you should get one off backpage, they have a lot of them there.

2. Although there may have been a rogue girl or two in the past that would do much more than you are getting today, it does not mean that they all are that way. Why do you think you can coerce people into being a ***** with a little money? Not trying to be adversarial, just an observation.

I am married and go to the AMP's because I want a good massage and some teasing to keep things interesting. I've got to know some of the girls at different shops and some will go the extra mile but not to the degree you expect. I'm actually very happy with my results and don't mind the price for the value I get.

Good luck with your cause, I'm sure it won't make much of a difference.[/QUOTE]Most Mongers are married, I know if the wives knew a good massage and teasing to keep things interesting was the motive, we would need more than a forum to talk about it. LOL.

Moderator removed one of my comments, I do apologize if it seemed directed at a member, I won't ever post toward another board member. With only 2 post it does make members wonder the motive.

AMP's in general was the topic of discussion.

[QUOTE=BobUpAndDown;3672697]I have been following your quest to shutdown all of the Birmingham AMP's and I have to say that I just don't get it for a couple of reasons.

1. They advertise that they are massage businesses, not ***** houses. If you want a hooker, you should get one off backpage, they have a lot of them there.

2. Although there may have been a rogue girl or two in the past that would do much more than you are getting today, it does not mean that they all are that way. Why do you think you can coerce people into being a ***** with a little money? Not trying to be adversarial, just an observation.

I am married and go to the AMP's because I want a good massage and some teasing to keep things interesting. I've got to know some of the girls at different shops and some will go the extra mile but not to the degree you expect. I'm actually very happy with my results and don't mind the price for the value I get.

Good luck with your cause, I'm sure it won't make much of a difference.[/QUOTE]I also agree with the above. The Asian masseuse I see is a licensed therapist who works very hard and is trying to raise her daughter. Yes, I enjoy the teasing, but she also gives a great massage. She is an extremely nice, interesting, and fun woman who studies and takes the technique of therapeutic massage very seriously. She does not promote herself as a sex worker and does not understand when men are ugly to her when she refuses to be a sex worker. I have come to know this woman and her daughter very well and, due to her language obstacles, my wife and I have become very involved in helping her with day to day matters. Treating these women poorly because they do not perform something that they never promised to do and is illegal to boot is simply not right. I have nothing against sex workers and those who seek these people, but most of the Asian masseuses I have come to know do not claim or pretend to be sex workers. Obviously, some are, but that does not make it OK to treat the others with contempt or disrespect simply because they are not what you want them to be.

[QUOTE=BobUpAndDown;3672697]I have been following your quest to shutdown all of the Birmingham AMP's and I have to say that I just don't get it for a couple of reasons.

1. They advertise that they are massage businesses, not ***** houses. If you want a hooker, you should get one off backpage, they have a lot of them there.

2. Although there may have been a rogue girl or two in the past that would do much more than you are getting today, it does not mean that they all are that way. Why do you think you can coerce people into being a ***** with a little money? Not trying to be adversarial, just an observation.

I am married and go to the AMP's because I want a good massage and some teasing to keep things interesting. I've got to know some of the girls at different shops and some will go the extra mile but not to the degree you expect. I'm actually very happy with my results and don't mind the price for the value I get.

Good luck with your cause, I'm sure it won't make much of a difference.[/QUOTE]These places have always been a thinly veiled cover for illegal sexual activities. People that frequent them know that and they go there looking for those activities not a massage and a tease. The recent rash of these tease joints is simply a money making scheme they suck you in with the promise of something more but never deliver and people who are suckers go back again and again thinking once they get to know the girl or are a regular they'll get better treatment with a bigger menu it never I repeat never happens. And as long as people are stupid enough to frequent these tease joints they will continue to exist. Even in Atlanta where there are lots of legitimate choices they are beginning to get a toehold. That's why this forum is so important so that people can share information on what is legit and what is not. However it does no good if people continue to frequent the parlors that are simply tease joints it's stupid and a waste of money. For what you'll spend it at a tease joint you could get full service with a decent provider. If all you're looking for is a massage with a pretty girl you can get that at many therapeutic establishments. If we quit patronizing these stinking tease joints and spend our money for the real thing it WILL make a difference. I can promise you if the word gets around to enough people and they know before they go in that there's no possibility of any real sexual activity these places will begin to dry up. MJ.