The Good, The Bad and The GPS.
Have been leeching from USASG for a long time, and it's time to share my person experience today. So I am been trying to book with Riley ([URL]https://www.eros.com/maryland/baltimore/files/468770.htm[/URL]) an appointment for the past 2 months but no success due to conflicting schedule and her locations. In the previous attempts, she quoted $$ 2 for an hour. Finally I decided to try again last night / this morning. Of course, I asked her if she is in the Tysons area. She replied via text that she could either be in DC or Tysons Corner. I was liked, sweet, let's do it. Asked her if she can do 11 am and the donation, and she replied an hour saying the earliest will be 3 pm with no mentioning of the roses. Okay, no big deal as I just need to shuffle some of my weekend business meetings around.
Well, this is when things went downhill. I asked her to confirm the donation, no reply. Asked her for the location / address for incall, and no reply. Asked to confirm the appointment, and of course no reply. I was about to give up after waiting for 3 hours. Suddenly she sent a text with an address. Just when you think there was hope, it went down to the drain in no time. I was driving to Tysons Corner shortly after she texted the address, and she called me. Since I can barely hear her voice over the phone, I pull over and trying to figure out what's up. Turned out that she can't do 3 pm, and want to reschedule for 5 pm instead. It's 2:30 pm at that point and I can't change my schedule anymore, so I declined. She called again and said if 4 pm will be alright. I was liked sure, since I don't leave town until 5:30 pm. Here comes the frustration part. She started asking me my name, how long will be session for, where did you find out about me, etc. All the information and references were exchanged during our previous texts. I answered all the question anyway. At one point, I tried to ease the weird conversation over the phone by saying "it must be a Saturday where we are all confused. Hahaha. " She doesn't understand what I meant, and went dead air for another 30 seconds.
Then comes the most annoying part. She said because she's not a local girl (been posting in DC and Baltimore in Eros multiple times but not a local girl. I wonder.) so it will now be $$ for an hour because she is now hosting at Tysons, so she will "have to pass the cost" to me. It's not about the money but a matter of principal. I have been asking for donation confirmation since this morning with no answers. Also been asking for confirmation of the appointment, only received a text 30 minutes before hand. So guess what, "I thank you for your time and have a good day!
Good thing is that the brothers at USASG always stressed to have a backup plan. I patron Asian Gem ([URL]http://asiangem.us[/URL]) few weeks ago, and Aniyana was amazing. Shoot a text to them and got a response in 5 minutes, saying that Josephine is available at 3:15 pm. I replied that I will need more time to drive there, and they were willing to work the time out. Once I got there, I can't believe what I saw. The photos on the website is probably not hers, but she looks a lot better in person. Typical K-agency work of flow with a joint shower. A lot of DFK and good 10 minutes of BBBJ. She slipped the rain coat on without even being noticed. Worked different position, keep smiling and GFE the whole time. Finally I filled the bag in 15 minutes. She gave me a decent massage afterward, then tried to get jr. Up for second shot. Unfortunately, as an old man, second comes rarely, so we showered again and headed out. I will definitely repeat because of the attitude and Josephine's GFE services.
So I guess it's like the old saying. When one door closes, another open.
Congratulations on your inaugural post
[QUOTE=Ggnorethx;3928875]Don't know if there are a lot of k-girl fans on this board, but with TER dead, it is hard to get good intel these days. I heard that a new asian agency opened in nova, so I decided to TOFTT and met with josephine. To my pleasant surprise I realized that we had met before when she was visiting as daina. The photos on the site aren't her, but trust me you won't be disappointed. She is drop dead gorgeous with big eyes, an athletic, toned body, and a round ass that most k-girls don't have. She was amazing as I remember, and if you are a fan of k-girls I highly recommend that you run to see her while you still can. She had a bunch of excellent reviews on TER, and she has some up on them, under the name diana in LA and boston, you can see her actual photos there. Why she isn't using them now, I have no idea. Needless to say, it is awesome that she is visiting, and I plan to repeat many times![/QUOTE]Kudos to you for posting a contribution rather than immediately asking questions or seeking recommendations.
That being said, when posting about agencies, especially K-agencies, some additional info is usually needed to help make the Intel as useful as possible.
First and foremost: Links, links, links. One of those is worth a thousand words since then other forum members can quickly see provider pics and anything else you're posting about.
Second: Screening requirements. An agency with excessive requirements will only be of interest to a smaller subset of hobbyists. So knowing about the requirements helps avoid wasting the time of both the hobbyist and the agency.
Third: Price. A provider who is a fantastic value at 250 is not such a great value at 350. If the website (again, link needed) doesn't list prices then the only way the forum will have that intel is if you tell us.
Thanks again for the preliminary info and looking forward to your follow-up post.
Plan B,C. To defend flaky providers
[QUOTE=Czech;3929318] (...) Good thing is that the brothers at USASG always stressed to have a backup plan. I patron Asian Gem ([URL]http://asiangem.us[/URL]) few weeks ago, (...) So I guess it's like the old saying. When one door closes, another open.[/QUOTE]Czech, good for you that your back up plan worked. But I found for my case it's hard to get a plan B or C etc work out.
When a provider flake, that usually happened at last minutes or 10,15 min after your set time that you found out have been stood up. If you then try to make another appointment with a different agency, it have to 1 or 2 hour later. The k agencies usually like a day ahead notice. It's easier going un-noticed by spouse for a 2 hour windows, enough for you drive to and back from incall location plus the actual time with providers. But to schedule another one plus the wait, that will fall into the 3,4 hours gone missing, which will easily raise suspicion.
I wish there are agencies or independent providers can do business like those AMPs. I recently ventured into those AMPs and pleasantly found out they can work with 15 min advanced notice. Just call them ahead and say I will be there in 15 min and AMPs are happy to accommodate. I think they actually prefer short notice.
Meanwhile, double book a time doesn't work either. Say you book 1st provider at one time, then book 2nd for half hour later. If 1st one fail, you can go to 2nd. If 1st one work out, you can cancel 2nd. But if you cancel 2nd with 1/2 hour notice, if it's an agency, they might ban you forever. You may lost the opportunities to see their other wonderful providers and your effort gone through their screening process is wasted.
This is a dilemma for me. If you keep working with good professional agency or provider, you chance get flaked is minimized, but you get same type of people and service; If you venture into different race or appearance and want the varieties, there is the unknown and the danger of being flaked.
Plan B (or C) should be less complicated than Plan A
[QUOTE=HighTemp;3930089]Czech, good for you that your back up plan worked. But I found for my case it's hard to get a plan B or C etc work out.
When a provider flake, that usually happened at last minutes or 10,15 min after your set time that you found out have been stood up. If you then try to make another appointment with a different agency, it have to 1 or 2 hour later. The k agencies usually like a day ahead notice. It's easier going un-noticed by spouse for a 2 hour windows, enough for you drive to and back from incall location plus the actual time with providers. But to schedule another one plus the wait, that will fall into the 3,4 hours gone missing, which will easily raise suspicion.
I wish there are agencies or independent providers can do business like those AMPs. I recently ventured into those AMPs and pleasantly found out they can work with 15 min advanced notice. Just call them ahead and say I will be there in 15 min and AMPs are happy to accommodate. I think they actually prefer short notice.
Meanwhile, double book a time doesn't work either. Say you book 1st provider at one time, then book 2nd for half hour later. If 1st one fail, you can go to 2nd. If 1st one work out, you can cancel 2nd. But if you cancel 2nd with 1/2 hour notice, if it's an agency, they might ban you forever. You may lost the opportunities to see their other wonderful providers and your effort gone through their screening process is wasted.
This is a dilemma for me. If you keep working with good professional agency or provider, you chance get flaked is minimized, but you get same type of people and service; If you venture into different race or appearance and want the varieties, there is the unknown and the danger of being flaked.[/QUOTE]Using your agency example, if Plan A falls through and you only have a limited time window, then by necessity any backup plan needs to be uncomplicated and quick.
IMHO, the key to a good backup plan is advance homework. If you know Plan A is taking you to a specific area, then research needs to be done beforehand to identify other possibilities (indies, AMPs, Asian crapshoot places, etc.) in that same area. IME, by taking those steps you can often switch to your backup in as little as 15-30 minutes.
But there's no way to pull off a Plan B that has as many moving parts and advance notice requirements as the original plan. Something like that will need to wait to be Plan A for another day. What you have to decide is whether you need to get your itch scratched badly enough so that you don't want to wait for a future time window.
If you have the names and numbers of a few indie providers in the area (maybe some that you've been eyeing for a while) and the numbers of a couple of crapshoot places and maybe the locations of a few nearby AMPs, it should take only a few minutes of texting or calling to set something up. About double-booking, I would advise against it as it's a good way to get blacklisted as a no-show client and also because we hate it when providers do that to us.
If you want to make a Plan B that's more elaborate, I guess that's possible but even more advance work would be needed. I have no problem with the "quick and dirty" solution and I've even found some gems that I wouldn't have otherwise.
Just my two-cents worth and I'm sure other members will chime in with their advice and experiences.
When GFE means different things to different people
[URL]http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/nylah-rose/295040408327[/URL]
Part of her ad says she offers GFE but her list of "don'ts" sure doesn't sound very GFE-like to me. Just another reminder, considering all the marketing hype out there, that it's always good to maintain a skeptical and "buyer beware" mentality.
Too good to be true Report.
I TFTT. I responded to an Asian ad for $ .6 for the whole bit (tip not necessary / worthy). I learned that the provider is oblivious to the services advertised. There was no DFK, kissing, co-shower, body slide, roaming, communication, and the worst GFE. Five minutes into the session she mechanically protected me and motioned to FS. I was not having it. The woman did not look anything like the picture that was sent to me (not in the ad). If it was of the same person then the provider let herself go years ago. She said she was two years in the business from China. With difficulty I was able to stretch the session to about 45 min- asking for more massage and was able to get a CBJ. After session I echoed this back to the provider and she did not understand at all what I was saying and I left. A brief conversation with the "boss" about false advertising only got me a reply to say that the Falls Church location was better (I was in Vienna / Maple Ave).
In case there are anyone out there that has thought about these flamboyant Asian ads and was wondering- I would say forget it. This happened to me one other time last year but the provider was not Asian. But I figured its not these imported women who come over for the money only. The "bosses" just exploit these women. I was still respectful to her the whole time and even gave her a pat on the head before leaving.
The thing about crapshoot places
[QUOTE=Lohkey;3935758]Went to an asain crapshoot out of centreville 540 area code. Stay away unless you want a chubby asain novelty notch on the ol headboard.[/QUOTE]Is that every visit is truly a roll of the dice. The women rotate often so the chubby Asian you saw might be on her way to another apartment or back to NY or somewhere else. And the woman who replaces her could conceivably be that "diamond in the rough" that most mongers love to find.
Because it's a crapshoot, it's only worth playing if you know how to increase your odds. If you don't then you'll crap out pretty much every time.
All those strategies have been discussed, at length, and a forum search will find them. FWIW, I've had some memorable sessions with crapshoot providers so it's not a hopeless cause if you do your homework before you play.
Don't expect the good-looking models in the photos
[QUOTE=JoseCuervo;3936269]Thanks for the report, brother Nero. I've always looked at those ads and wondered. As you say, they look TGTBT, and I guess that's it.
Peace,
Jose.[/QUOTE]JmSuttr's advice should be heeded. He said it better than I could.
In my past experience with the Asian crapshoot, I've had a couple of hits and the rest were misses. But even the providers who performed well looked nothing like the young, attractive models in the ad photos. Figure on seeing an OK-looking MILF at best, and don't be surprised if you see Granny instead.
In NOVA follow the FL area codes
LK,
Thanks for the good, albeit discreet, review. Just further validation that you really want to stick with South and Central FL area codes.
These are the ones you want to keep an eye out for:
305,786, 954,561 & 407.
This applies for latinas in most cities.
Maryland has several quality latinas in Silver Spring, Takoma Park and (my new favorite) Laurel who use local DC and MD codes, but at least for NOVA latinas, stay away from local and NY area codes unless you don't mind a rushed switch and bait dream.
Pleasant Dreams,
Vance.
[QUOTE=Lohkey;3936869]Just left tysons from seeing a pair of brazilian goddesses. 305-850-0846. The two girl special is to die for. Vannessa is a tall lightskinned almost caucasian thick but good video vixen thick photos could be her . Anita is a dark very well built woman. Their two girl special is amazing and worth every penny. I'm coming back to see each seperately. Extras are on the menu. Treat these girls good as this is thier inaugural visit. Seniors dm for more info. This is definitely a diamond in rough. I dont like to go into detail about details because my experience has been a definite ymmv with every single provider. What ill say is extras are available. Theyre are sharing a room and youll ask why such a great review.... im on here a lot and while my posts arent the most informative i can at least give you some info and assure you they arent leos. These girls are tge reason i am a hobbyist.[/QUOTE]
Asian Crapshoot Cliff's Notes
Asian crapshoot ads are easy to spot because they feature TGTBT pics and promise every ultra-GFE service under the sun for the bargain price of 130/160.
The best info about these places can be found by searching (keyword: crapshoot) for the numerous discussions that have taken place in the past. But, for those who are newer to the forum, here's the quick and dirty version:
1. These are high-volume operations that care little about customer service or developing regular clients.
2. You will never be speaking (or texting) directly to any of the providers. The scheduler will usually be at some remote location, such as NYC.
3. Everything in the ad, except for the location and the phone number, is fake and is designed for the sole purpose of getting you to call. There are no Japanese twin college students waiting to give you a co-shower with BBBJ. I repeat: Everything. Is. Fake.
4. When you call or text, the scheduler will tell you anything to get you to visit. Think of this as a verbal version of the misrepresentations in the written ad.
5. When you get to the apt and a woman answers the door, there will almost always be other women available. Even if that woman, or the scheduler, insists she is the only one available, it is almost certainly a lie. The other women might be busy with another client, or hiding behind a screen or in another room, but they are there.
6. Neither the woman who answers the door, nor any others in the apt, will look anything like the ad pics. Whether they are ugly or attractive, young or old, slender or fat, is truly a roll of the dice. They also move around often so, even if you visit the next day, there's no guarantee the same providers will be there. Hence the "crapshoot" designation.
7. 9 times out of 10 the entire menu of service consists of a short backrub followed by a flip, CBJ or HJ to get you ready, and CFS. The average elapsed time for a session is probably around 15-20 minutes. And most schedulers will start the clock when they text you to come up and they will call the girl when, by their too-fast clock, they think your time's up.
8. Arguing with any of the providers, about anything (price, svc, quality, etc.), is a complete waste of time. She won't have a clue as to what was said in the ad or by the scheduler and her English will either be rudimentary or non-existent. All that will happen is that she will get angry or upset and you will look like a jerk.
9. Arguing with the scheduler is also usually a fool's errand, with one exception. If you can get an immediate discount for the session you just booked, take it and count it as a win. Any promise of a future discount or upgrade is bogus and will never materialize.
10. Your cash, and your willingness to hang onto it and walk away, is your only leverage. Once you hand it over your leverage evaporates. For that reason any negotiation you undertake with the scheduler needs to take place before you hand over the cash.
That's enough for now. Let me pause here to allow other experienced members to weigh in with their own observations.
After reading the above one might ask whether there's any value at all to be found in visiting a crapshoot place. The answer is a qualified "it depends" and I'll post more about that, and about strategies for improving your odds, in a followup to this post.
Until then, stay safe and always think with the big head.
2 cents on Asian crapshoot ads
Reading some of the recent commentary on the Asian crapshoot ads, the only crapshoot ad that I found to be excellent were the ads posted for Asian girls in the apartments across from the Fairoaks Mall. The one time I went there, I had a very attractive Chinese girl (probably in her 20's). She enjoyed my DATY on her and her body was very nice. Pretty face. This was last Summer.
For me it's been a long time
[QUOTE=Metloaf;3938830]When last time someone seen her? Notice ad on E site but for Springfield. Normally Tyson's and Gallows area since leaving landmark area 8 yrs ago. And her doubles were with another smaller white massue. Thought they were lovers. Demi use to escort hard in her day but HJ happy endings for years only now.[/QUOTE]As I've previously stated, I last saw Demi about seven or eight years ago when she was known as Juicy Jenna. She offered FS on a future visit for $ on top of her original donation, which I believe was $. 6 back in the day. I didn't take her up on the offer because not long afterward I saw another attractive MILF who gave me a nice massage plus FS for the same fee that Demi / Jenna charged for a FBSM w / HJ. Of course, Demi is still around while the other gal has long since retired. If anyone has more recent info on Demi, please feel free to speak up.
