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Ran across a few local ads and found that the SB had on there that she was married but looking.
I steer clear of these because the moment the SO put pressure on the wife, she may buckle and.
Potential search can ultimately found info on me.
But isn't this almost the same as a SB who is seeing a somewhat male friend on the other end without telling you.
And who can look up history because he may have the log info for the GF phone?
[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2849219]This is all very true. I don't seek girls that play the dollar amount game. SA is more show and tell. Be somewhat decently dressed and a nice cologne and you're in and nearly all cases. Girls don't want to be winners, they prefer to date a winner. In my LTR SB situation the sugar gradually funneled to $0. After maintaining the illusion that you're a great catch and of course treating her nicely she's more inclined to feel privileged that you're available. This combined with the realization that women operate on emotion 90% of the time you've got your POT under wraps.
I started SA and also a [URL]match.com[/URL] profile at the same time. I've had some M&Gs with early 30's and it's been unfulfilling. I've become addicted to a firmer body and the 20's nativity and over-confidence. Another technique I've been using is keeping emotions in a constant up and down state. I'll cancel a meet, go dark for a few days. When we meet I'll wine and dine, go over the top. If I take them out or to a shopping center for example I make sure to buy myself something really nice. For them, I'll buy a bottle of perfume or some trinket jewelry. It's a war of control and always appearing as a high value man. My techniques aren't fool proof. There's girls with game too, but if they like you enough they'll ignore your vices and signs of weakness.
My SB / SO is no longer living with me. She's still coming by for overnights and lunch dates. I no longer wag my tongue when sex is a possibility. In fact, I don't even try to initiate it anymore (very tough!) Since I've started back in The Bowl it's almost like she senses it. She's been much more interested and showing better behavior since a little distance is in between us. I'm not saying we're over, but I definitely won some points by willing to call it quits and finally meaning it. Admittingly the other girls don't hold a candle to her, but the new girls occupy some time and are a good break while I figure things out.[/QUOTE]The power in a relationship lies with the one who needs it least.
Well said Mike. Very well said. It's also, in a nutshell, how one converts an SB from a demanding POT to a into a submissive that will do whatever you want, whenever you want.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2850623]The power in a relationship lies with the one who needs it least.[/QUOTE]
Well my 2nd M&G ever when right to FC. I messaged a 19 year old short, cute but a bit dumpy in the middle girl and set up a M&G at a chain sort of upscale bistro. She had told me in a message that she missed having some alone time. Ding ding ding. So after about ten minutes of chatting we were off to a nearby hotel. Everything I've read here and over in he LA SB thread is true. These young girls must have crap sexual experiences with their peers. I'm no Casanova but she got off at least 3 times and was amazed I was so good a foreplay LOL. Anyway we went at it for 2. 5 hrs. Luckily I took a blue pill before. I haven't had that much fun in a long time. Got three shots in and boy was she tight. I'd have thought she was virgin if she wasn't so good at sucking cock. I've fucked way hotter chicks but this was way better than any escort. I gave her $$ and she was happy. I'll have to up my game and get the next one lower. Stay Safe Sp.
[QUOTE=Spider2112;2852204]Well my 2nd M&G ever when right to FC. I messaged a 19 year old short, cute but a bit dumpy in the middle girl and set up a M&G at a chain sort of upscale bistro. She had told me in a message that she missed having some alone time. Ding ding ding. So after about ten minutes of chatting we were off to a nearby hotel. Everything I've read here and over in he LA SB thread is true. These young girls must have crap sexual experiences with their peers. I'm no Casanova but she got off at least 3 times and was amazed I was so good a foreplay LOL. Anyway we went at it for 2. 5 hrs. Luckily I took a blue pill before. I haven't had that much fun in a long time. Got three shots in and boy was she tight. I'd have thought she was virgin if she wasn't so good at sucking cock. I've fucked way hotter chicks but this was way better than any escort. I gave her $$ and she was happy. I'll have to up my game and get the next one lower. Stay Safe Sp.[/QUOTE]
Seems like if you are giving her 3 O's and she has never experienced that before, AND as you say, she is tight, then sounds like a perfect fit for on-going. Bet if you gave her less next time she won't complain. Because the sex is good for her, and perhaps she seeks experience, you might be able to, like others, get her to free dates?
Why go looking for more when your have a 3-pop, tight girl at hand?
[QUOTE=Spider2112;2852204]Well my 2nd M&G ever when right to FC. I messaged a 19 year old short, cute but a bit dumpy in the middle girl and set up a M&G at a chain sort of upscale bistro. She had told me in a message that she missed having some alone time. Ding ding ding. So after about ten minutes of chatting we were off to a nearby hotel. Everything I've read here and over in he LA SB thread is true. These young girls must have crap sexual experiences with their peers. I'm no Casanova but she got off at least 3 times and was amazed I was so good a foreplay LOL. Anyway we went at it for 2. 5 hrs. Luckily I took a blue pill before. I haven't had that much fun in a long time. Got three shots in and boy was she tight. I'd have thought she was virgin if she wasn't so good at sucking cock. I've fucked way hotter chicks but this was way better than any escort. I gave her $$ and she was happy. I'll have to up my game and get the next one lower. Stay Safe Sp.[/QUOTE]Good for you but I always remember I'm paying these girls and never once have I been told I'm a bad fuck LOL.
I've had numerous girls girls from sa say after losing a long term arrangement that it was fine, they never really liked the guy anyway. The money was steady and good enough to put up with him.
So my test is after a couple of months tell her you can't do the sugar anymore. If she is really into you then she will continue without the payday. If she continues then you have something to celebrate.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2852271]Seems like if you are giving her 3 O's and she has never experienced that before, AND as you say, she is tight, then sounds like a perfect fit for on-going. Bet if you gave her less next time she won't complain. Because the sex is good for her, and perhaps she seeks experience, you might be able to, like others, get her to free dates?
Why go looking for more when your have a 3-pop, tight girl at hand?[/QUOTE]You know I never thought of a free posibility. The only reason I think about moving on is that I don't what any of these girls or myself to get too attached. Thanks for the idea, I'll "ride" this one out for a while and see where it goes. She just emailed me how much fun he had and would love another.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2852271]Seems like if you are giving her 3 O's and she has never experienced that before, AND as you say, she is tight, then sounds like a perfect fit for on-going. Bet if you gave her less next time she won't complain. Because the sex is good for her, and perhaps she seeks experience, you might be able to, like others, get her to free dates?
Why go looking for more when your have a 3-pop, tight girl at hand?[/QUOTE]I'm in my mid 60's and my definition of the sd / sb is entirely different than most here.
Most here are just mongers who see how many notches they can put in their bedpost. No matter how good the girl is they move on after 1-2 meetings for any reason they can think of. This leaves a bad experience with the girls who are looking for one sd and they either give up on the idea or they say WTF I can make money doing this and turns them into utr or pros. Just my thoughts.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2850623]The power in a relationship lies with the one who needs it least.[/QUOTE]Started dating other POTS. Lectures the bratty SB and she's back being my #1. Even better than ever. It's inbelievable. I read a couple alpha male books and lots of Reddit stuff on "TRP". She's down with the new program and even more affecianate than before. I don't follow the text books steps a lot of the materials state, but adhering to some principles and still being somewhat a nice guy has paid huge dividends. I addressed all the past behavior and laid down what's acceptable and not. It's like when I was being passive and treating the SO like equals all hell broke loose. I'm still narrowing my new field of SBs down to keep in play, but this is a 360 turn around.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2852307]I'm in my mid 60's and my definition of the sd / sb is entirely different than most here.
Most here are just mongers who see how many notches they can put in their bedpost. No matter how good the girl is they move on after 1-2 meetings for any reason they can think of. This leaves a bad experience with the girls who are looking for one sd and they either give up on the idea or they say WTF I can make money doing this and turns them into utr or pros. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]I don't stay with one SB mostly because my companionship needs are met via my SO, but I don't position myself as someone who is going to be their ongoing primary income provider, either. I try to look for the ones who are in it for fun and sexual adventure first, rather than the ones that are desperately scrambling to make ends meet.
If these girls don't want one night stands, the onus is on them to make damn sure they don't end up in the FC on the first couple of visits. If they don't fuck on the first date or two, their risk of meeting transient SDs is eliminated. They know this.
Most of the time they do with me without any discussion of money, and if they are being honest at all, it is done purely out of physical attraction. The sugar I give them is icing on the cake. So basically they are all adults and they understand how the dating game works -- if you go out of your way to actively seek players, you might find yourself in bed with one and you may or not seem him again afterward. If any of these girls have led you to believe they don't understand that simple fact, they've pulled one over on you.
I talk here about things like tactics to beat down egos that need to come down a notch. But it's important to understand I don't do that to everyone or come close to seeing the need to do so. It's just a tool to be used when the situation calls for it. Many girls don't have ego problems and thus don't get any special tricks from me -- just a simple offer for fun and something new. I don't make long-term promises.
Every girl that signs up for these sites knows exactly what she's going after, despite the helpless damsel in distress routine. If she didn't want to play the game she would stick to [URL]Match.com[/URL] or others. Actively seeking out bad boys is going to surely land her a few.
Howdy gentlemen.
Been reading the forum for a bit and been working my way reading from the beginning. I've gathered a good education, but I find myself in a conundrum. My profession is all about being known, promoting myself, and being as visible as possible. This sounds very contrary to what I've been reading in the forum about security. I haven't entered the sugar bowl yet, but I find myself in a marriage that is devoid of intimacy and I long for more. Any suggestions for the newbie?
[QUOTE=Realco71;2853239]Howdy gentlemen.
Been reading the forum for a bit and been working my way reading from the beginning. I've gathered a good education, but I find myself in a conundrum. My profession is all about being known, promoting myself, and being as visible as possible. This sounds very contrary to what I've been reading in the forum about security. I haven't entered the sugar bowl yet, but I find myself in a marriage that is devoid of intimacy and I long for more. Any suggestions for the newbie?[/QUOTE]The short answer is no matter how many steps you take, you will be at risk. So take a deep breath and decide what is most important to you. Career or personal desire.
With that said plenty of ways to minimize risk. Number one is get and use a burner phone. Pay in cash. Get one with lots of data / texting. Number 2 is create a dummy email that has no identifying info, and that you do not use anywhere else where you would have to give your full name. Number 3 is to get and use gift cards (again pay with cash) to buy memberships to websites. Number 4 is to figure out a solution to the photo problem. Some recent discussion below. Number 5 would probably be to play outside your immediate sandbox. Even in a big city, paths cross.
[QUOTE=Realco71;2853239]Howdy gentlemen.
Been reading the forum for a bit and been working my way reading from the beginning. I've gathered a good education, but I find myself in a conundrum. My profession is all about being known, promoting myself, and being as visible as possible. This sounds very contrary to what I've been reading in the forum about security. I haven't entered the sugar bowl yet, but I find myself in a marriage that is devoid of intimacy and I long for more. Any suggestions for the newbie?[/QUOTE]Simple stay open and visible and if any SB tries to expose you. Counter with sure try. You will just sound as a unhappy customer.
Just make sure that whatever pic you share are the ones widely visible. NO private pictures. These widely visible picture are visible o the world and that is where that 'scorned customer' got them.
"How do you know her? " . She had meeting with me I recall because of this or that 'whatever you do'.
"Why is she saying you shagged her?" . Wow I wish I had. She did not liked it that I turned her down s a client. And see I was right.
"I want more $ or I'll expose you " . Please go ahead.
For texting use private cell or app with NO personal identifying info.
[QUOTE=Realco71;2853239]Howdy gentlemen.
Been reading the forum for a bit and been working my way reading from the beginning. I've gathered a good education, but I find myself in a conundrum. My profession is all about being known, promoting myself, and being as visible as possible. This sounds very contrary to what I've been reading in the forum about security. I haven't entered the sugar bowl yet, but I find myself in a marriage that is devoid of intimacy and I long for more. Any suggestions for the newbie?[/QUOTE]My opinion is alot of these girls don't really care who you are or probably wouldn't know who you are unless you want to point that out. Your more than likely going to be outed by or people who see you out and àbo ut with a sb than the sb. Make good choices on a sb a, the find one that you like and do long term.
If you have alot to lose then don't do it because sooner or later everyone gets caught, just a matter of time.
If you have to do it then don't post a pic to your profile. When one is requested send one but don't post one. Your so might have friends on there.
A / ain make good choices.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2852307]I'm in my mid 60's and my definition of the sd / sb is entirely different than most here.
Most here are just mongers who see how many notches they can put in their bedpost. No matter how good the girl is they move on after 1-2 meetings for any reason they can think of. This leaves a bad experience with the girls who are looking for one sd and they either give up on the idea or they say WTF I can make money doing this and turns them into utr or pros. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]Not entirely. Earlier this year (I believe) there was a discussion about this on the thread. I'd say about half use SBs as one-off escorts before moving on. Problem is they are shooting them self in the foot. As OP states, the more they encounter this more they adapt their game. And don't forget, women are more social and more likely to share their experiences and learn from their peers.