Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=BulgogiBoy;2458103]This was the lead story tonight on KHON at 6 pm. Yes, sexual assault (4th degree / exposing) are the charges. They asked Peter Carlisle, who said it will be tough to prove.

They named Young, Keeaumoku, Atkinson, S. King streets as being the parlors raided.

Not a coincidence that another story was about Prosecutor Kaneshiro being sued in a civil lawsuit by the gambling machine owners. Connect the dots. Trying to save face.


They'll probably rebroadcast at 10 pm.[/QUOTE]So which ones would those be? Hula's, Roses or Nirvanna, China Doll Spa or Plus Spa, one of those AMPs near Top Spa, any other guesses? Maybe VIP or Yokohama Spa?

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2458160]So which ones would those be? Hula's, Roses or Nirvanna, China Doll Spa or Plus Spa, one of those AMPs near Top Spa, any other guesses? Maybe VIP or Yokohama Spa?[/QUOTE]Sorry buddy but no one going to post which ones got hit out of respect for the mama's. Bad for business. You got some right. Best to ask one of your girls.

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2458160]So which ones would those be? Hula's, Roses or Nirvanna, China Doll Spa or Plus Spa, one of those AMPs near Top Spa, any other guesses? Maybe VIP or Yokohama Spa?[/QUOTE]I heard that Hula, Nirvana, Rose, Kison, VIP, CDS and Top got hit. If it's true or not, but that's what I heard from one of the mamas. More could of been hit.

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2458160]So which ones would those be? Hula's, Roses or Nirvanna, China Doll Spa or Plus Spa, one of those AMPs near Top Spa, any other guesses? Maybe VIP or Yokohama Spa?[/QUOTE]Five places were already named on the various threads. You just need to go back a few days and read. Aside from those already mentioned, there were three on Keeaumoku, one in AY Wong building, one on Ena, and a couple of smaller ones. Out of these dozen or so places, at least three were hit multiple times within the three day span. This came from two different sources but the information was the same. Take it for what it's worth and draw your own conclusions.

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2458160]So which ones would those be? Hula's, Roses or Nirvanna, China Doll Spa or Plus Spa, one of those AMPs near Top Spa, any other guesses? Maybe VIP or Yokohama Spa?[/QUOTE][URL]http://khon2.com/2015/05/04/honolulu-police-arrest-16-women-in-massage-parlor-crackdown/[/URL]

Narco-vice don't work Sundays. Just so you know.

[QUOTE=Harry5142;2457869]Which three?[/QUOTE]My guess is the super busy ones. Jeez, going to make it hard on us to go to different AMPs.

[QUOTE=BulgogiBoy;2458103]This was the lead story tonight on KHON at 6 pm. Yes, sexual assault (4th degree / exposing) are the charges. They asked Peter Carlisle, who said it will be tough to prove.

They named Young, Keeaumoku, Atkinson, S. King streets as being the parlors raided.

Not a coincidence that another story was about Prosecutor Kaneshiro being sued in a civil lawsuit by the gambling machine owners. Connect the dots. Trying to save face.


They'll probably rebroadcast at 10 pm.[/QUOTE]PoPo had a camera crew with them tonight. Possibly 4 more hit around 9 pm.

I watched the 6 pm news, and the idiots are talking how it's good to have crime off the streets. Ummmm, it IS off the streets, and in a private business. Morons!! And it shouldn't even be a crime if it's consentual between 2 adults. Morons!

[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2458222]PoPo had a camera crew with them tonight. Possibly 4 more hit around 9 pm.

I watched the 6 pm news, and the idiots are talking how it's good to have crime off the streets. Ummmm, it IS off the streets, and in a private business. Morons!! And it shouldn't even be a crime if it's consentual between 2 adults. Morons![/QUOTE]Damn! I thought they were finished. To be honest I'm getting cold feet just because I don't want to be questioned and possibly detained. I feel for the girls too. I think it's best they only take known customers even if it means slow business. Even my girls are nervous now. When I saw them they were stressed out about this a lot.

[QUOTE=BP808;2457849]The AMPs should start a "customer touch first" policy. It only makes sense. If anybody grabs the ass, the tits or the fondles the kitty before derobing, they cannot be LE, am I right? Because the customer initiated sexual contact. More better for us mongers to able to test the equipment before taking for a test ride.

I hope all the Mamasans are reading this.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Archives/measure_indiv_Archives.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=1926&year=2014[/URL]

Hilarious as HB-1926 was passed by Legislature, but has not been sign by the Gov. The Bill has been sitting in the Gov office desk since 6/23/14. So LE is still protected by law to actually BoomBoom with providers to arrest them for prostitution. The Bill states that LE is not exempt from having sex with providers to lure them into an arrest of prostitution. But the Bill still remains, and is not signed into law. So honies beware.

Rus.

If the Legislature passed a bill, it will go into law with the Governor's signature or without it. If he signs, he says he supports it. If he lets it become law without his signature, he sort of supports it. If he is against it, he vetoes the bill.

[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2458222]PoPo had a camera crew with them tonight. Possibly 4 more hit around 9 pm.

I watched the 6 pm news, and the idiots are talking how it's good to have crime off the streets. Ummmm, it IS off the streets, and in a private business. Morons!! And it shouldn't even be a crime if it's consentual between 2 adults. Morons![/QUOTE]HPD and the politicians really need to concentrate on and go after the sex-slave trade run by pimps, etc. I have the impression that HPD is lazy and complacent when it comes to going after the real offenders (pimps). AMPs are a much easier target, plus HPD gets credit and TV coverage for "getting crime off the streets" when raiding the AMPs, which is not a part of the sex slave industry. Makes me want to throw up.

[QUOTE=Blake123;2458247]HPD and the politicians really need to concentrate on and go after the sex-slave trade run by pimps, etc. I have the impression that HPD is lazy and complacent when it comes to going after the real offenders (pimps). AMPs are a much easier target, plus HPD gets credit and TV coverage for "getting crime off the streets" when raiding the AMPs, which is not a part of the sex slave industry. Makes me want to throw up.[/QUOTE]I love how they're getting "crime off the streets. " 1, not on the streets, in a private building. 2, shouldn't even be a crime when it's between 2 consenting adults. Married guys "pay" for it the minute they buy a ring. How is that not a crime? My dad signed then gave my mom his paycheck every week. How was that not "paying" for it.

It's all (I'm) moral bs.

[QUOTE=HMobius;2458021]I wish all mamas and remaining girls well as they weather the storm.[/QUOTE]I second that. But I also will weather the storm and not go until it quiets down. Never been caught in a raid before and don't plan to, even if the cops can't do anything to me.

During TV ratings week out seems the police do raids on AMP and the news has reports on tv.

I guess the rules of engagement will change for first timers in these establishments; covered massage, no use of hands (massagers, vibrators), no mention of tip money, if the customer wants a naked massage the masseuse will take a picture of him (he has nothing to fear if he wants a legit massage, right?), and she will be fully clothed when giving the massage.

First timers will get nothing if the women are scared. No touch, no foul.

[QUOTE=Member#2322;2458207]Narco-vice don't work Sundays. Just so you know.[/QUOTE]Well, they might now, since it's been said that HPD probably reads this forum.

I was friends with a girl who worked in LA. She was my go-to, regular provider at the time.

She was very popular on another site that can't be named and had pages and pages and pages of reviews. She operated out of an apartment in Sherman Oaks with a bunch of other girls. It was kind of like an AMP, without the table shower or any pretext of giving a massage; on the mainland they call this kind of setup a trickpad.

Anyway, one day the cops raided the apartment. She told me they knew who all of them were and when she was being booked she was kind of a celebrity in the police station because of all the things that were written about her on the site. They'd printed out her reviews and circulated them among the investigating officers.

So yeah. I have no doubt that there's someone at HPD headquarters reading this right now. I have no doubt that they know exactly who all those girls at the AMPs you guys keep on talking about are. The bust that happened to my friend occurred back in the mid-2000's. I'd imagine cops have only gotten better at collecting and managing the information that comes their way.

[QUOTE=Kalani69;2458676]Well, they might now, since it's been said that HPD probably reads this forum.[/QUOTE]

Sex assault charges could classified them as sex offenders. Means good too register with the sex offenders?

[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2458258]Married guys "pay" for it the minute they buy a ring. How is that not a crime? My dad signed then gave my mom his paycheck every week. How was that not "paying" for it.

It's all (I'm) moral bs.[/QUOTE]Yeah, when I was a kid I used always hear my uncle make comments "another fool on the sucker's list" when some couple about to get married start blazing their car horn in the neighborhood.

[QUOTE=HonoluluYobo;2458496].

First timers will get nothing if the women are scared. No touch, no foul.[/QUOTE]I know of a case where HPD cop gets free BJ and screw from a provider because he got something over her. So don't be surprised if more HPD cops start getting sexual "benefits" for free after these raids, while you have to pay for it. Some guys on this forum like to brag about their "prowlness" but in reality they are making things worst off, better to just PM and have senior members form a private group to keep matters private between them and their trusted providers.

[QUOTE=Johnny14;2458815]I know of a case where HPD cop gets free BJ and screw from a provider because he got something over her. So don't be surprised if more HPD cops start getting sexual "benefits" for free after these raids, while you have to pay for it. Some guys on this forum like to brag about their "prowlness" but in reality they are making things worst off, better to just PM and have senior members form a private group to keep matters private between them and their trusted providers.[/QUOTE]Well said. Our detailed reports just give HPD more information on AMPs that they are trying to close or build a case against providers. We shouldn't be sharing so much info with them. That would explain why these message boards in mainland cities are so devoid of info, while our boards are so active. They figured out the police read these public forum messages. Let's not help them make arrests.

If you haven't noticed, a lot of the old timers (like me) don't post and rarely say anything anymore.
Couple of reasons...girls know who you are since they are on here all the time, prevent trolls from attacking you, and laying low from providing any obvious 411 for others who don't need to know (popo).

PMs are the way and for those who don't reply/respond, then no sharing for them either.

CD35

[QUOTE=Johnny14;2458815]I know of a case where HPD cop gets free BJ and screw from a provider because he got something over her. So don't be surprised if more HPD cops start getting sexual "benefits" for free after these raids, while you have to pay for it. Some guys on this forum like to brag about their "prowlness" but in reality they are making things worst off, better to just PM and have senior members form a private group to keep matters private between them and their trusted providers.[/QUOTE]

Who's up for re-election this September? I can see them going after illegals, but sexual assault charges? There is a reason prostitution is a misdemeanor, it is a crime of morality. I know there is sex trafficking happening with young girls who are forced into it. But I know 40 somethings at Kison that are in it for the money and sex. That's just a win-win for us the mongers. Sure the communities don't like seeing people creeping through their neighborhood at all hours, but why those specific AMPs? Were they the ones with the most complaints? I guess it's time to lay low for a while.

Monger Safely Everyone!

[QUOTE=Bobbyd1988;2458912]Who's up for re-election this September? I can see them going after illegals, but sexual assault charges? There is a reason prostitution is a misdemeanor, it is a crime of morality. I know there is sex trafficking happening with young girls who are forced into it. But I know 40 somethings at Kison that are in it for the money and sex. That's just a win-win for us the mongers. Sure the communities don't like seeing people creeping through their neighborhood at all hours, but why those specific AMPs? Were they the ones with the most complaints? I guess it's time to lay low for a while.

Monger Safely Everyone![/QUOTE]Thats right. It's not like providers at AMPs go out looking to do bad things. It may be weird but I kind of feel sorry for the accusations done to them, which is pretty much hearsay and have no otherwitness to give it validity, even if it's not really about sexual force / assault on their part but just a reason for police to charge them. They really pretty much keep to themselves and don't bother anybody, and also don't just let any underage male enter. Go after illegals instead. And I pretty much agree with what you said too, from top to bottom.

[QUOTE=Bobbyd1988;2458912]Who's up for re-election this September? I can see them going after illegals, but sexual assault charges? There is a reason prostitution is a misdemeanor, it is a crime of morality. I know there is sex trafficking happening with young girls who are forced into it. But I know 40 somethings at Kison that are in it for the money and sex. That's just a win-win for us the mongers. Sure the communities don't like seeing people creeping through their neighborhood at all hours, but why those specific AMPs? Were they the ones with the most complaints? I guess it's time to lay low for a while.

Monger Safely Everyone![/QUOTE]No one gets re-elected, or elected for that matter, in September but that doesn't mean the raids are not politically motivated. Among other reasons.

[QUOTE=Bobbyd1988;2458912]Who's up for re-election this September? I can see them going after illegals, but sexual assault charges? There is a reason prostitution is a misdemeanor, it is a crime of morality. I know there is sex trafficking happening with young girls who are forced into it. But I know 40 somethings at Kison that are in it for the money and sex. That's just a win-win for us the mongers. Sure the communities don't like seeing people creeping through their neighborhood at all hours, but why those specific AMPs? Were they the ones with the most complaints? I guess it's time to lay low for a while.

Monger Safely Everyone![/QUOTE]Thats right. I pretty much agree with all that you said. And to add to that, It may sound weird but I kind of feel sorry for the accusations against them which is pretty much just hearsay with no other witness to give it validity. Also, it's not like these providers go out in the community or inside the establishment to do real harm to anybody even if they are visible with their sign. They really pretty much just keep to themselves and don't go on harassing others in the community or letting those of underage enter. Of course we know the girls are not really sexual assaulting these guys with malice or with any real bad intention but it just gives the cops reason to use as charges against the provider. Why not go for illegals insteaD.

What times of the day were the raids held?

[QUOTE=Raiden;2458235]Damn! I thought they were finished. To be honest I'm getting cold feet just because I don't want to be questioned and possibly detained. I feel for the girls too. I think it's best they only take known customers even if it means slow business. Even my girls are nervous now. When I saw them they were stressed out about this a lot.[/QUOTE]Fight The Power! You got to Fight the Powers that Be! You got to fight the Power! No quit now, brah! Be a fucking warrior for the cause! No give in to this BS! Monger on! Continue to support your local loving establishment of ill repute! Whatchu think LE can do to your ass? Nothing! You say, "I'm here visiting a friend. " End of story end of interrogation end of drama! Seriously, right now is when we need to keep frequenting the AMPs or they will be drummed out of business by fear; by our wimping out! We cannot let that happen. Support the cause! Keep that pussy flowing! Don't allow the forces of darkness and anti-sex to cut off your fucking balls through fear! That's the only way they can win against us in the end!

You got to Fight The Power! You got to Fight the Powers That Be!

CK (Putting his money where his mouth is; went to CHM today!

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;2459017]Fight The Power! You got to Fight the Powers that Be! You got to fight the Power! No quit now, brah! Be a fucking warrior for the cause! No give in to this BS! Monger on! Continue to support your local loving establishment of ill repute! Whatchu think LE can do to your ass? Nothing! You say, "I'm here visiting a friend. " End of story end of interrogation end of drama! Seriously, right now is when we need to keep frequenting the AMPs or they will be drummed out of business by fear; by our wimping out! We cannot let that happen. Support the cause! Keep that pussy flowing! Don't allow the forces of darkness and anti-sex to cut off your fucking balls through fear! That's the only way they can win against us in the end!

You got to Fight The Power! You got to Fight the Powers That Be!

CK (Putting his money where his mouth is; went to CHM today![/QUOTE]Okay my bruddah CK! We will be the Resistance!

Was Dream there? Lmk please. You can PM Me. If she's there then I will go tomorrow. Actually I saw one of my girls Sunday. Got to keep going is right bruddah CK!

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;2458690]I have no doubt that there's someone at HPD headquarters reading this right now. I have no doubt that they know exactly who all those girls at the AMPs you guys keep on talking about are. The bust that happened to my friend occurred back in the mid-2000's. I'd imagine cops have only gotten better at collecting and managing the information that comes their way.[/QUOTE]7 years ago, Joe Moore did a story on the 6 pm news about this site. Since before then, HPD must have been reading to ascertain names and where to hit.

Almost certainly, upper HPD brass and legal eagles have been having pow-wows to map-out the scope and focus (e.g. assault instead of prostitution) for this recent volley of hits.

I wonder what is yet to come, and what sort of influences will be impressed upon judges, one way or the other.

Unless the police have a person on video and audio committing a sex act and paying for it, or viewed the entire "transaction" in person, there is no evidence of a criminal act which a person can be arrested for. If they catch you coming out of a room at one of these establishments, they can question you, but you are not required to answer any question which can incriminate yourself. You are your own worse enemy if you voluntarily admit to have committed a criminal act. If you repeat this statement the police can only let you go.

"On counsel's advice, I invoke my right under the Fifth Amendment not to answer, on the grounds I may incriminate myself. ".

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2458862]Well said. Our detailed reports just give HPD more information on AMPs that they are trying to close or build a case against providers. We shouldn't be sharing so much info with them. That would explain why these message boards in mainland cities are so devoid of info, while our boards are so active. They figured out the police read these public forum messages. Let's not help them make arrests.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised this whole forum is public tbh. There should be some sort of restricted acess page or forum where by only qualified individuals ie post x reports or senior member etc can read and share info.

[QUOTE=Bobbyd1988;2458912]Who's up for re-election this September? I can see them going after illegals, but sexual assault charges? There is a reason prostitution is a misdemeanor, it is a crime of morality. I know there is sex trafficking happening with young girls who are forced into it. But I know 40 somethings at Kison that are in it for the money and sex. That's just a win-win for us the mongers. Sure the communities don't like seeing people creeping through their neighborhood at all hours, but why those specific AMPs? Were they the ones with the most complaints? I guess it's time to lay low for a while.

Monger Safely Everyone![/QUOTE]Defining a Police State and Hawaii.

As retrieved from I [URL]Dictionary.com[/URL] online:

[URL]http://i.word.com/idictionary/police%20state[/URL]

POLICE STATE: A political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures.

First Use:*1851.

Possible Example:

[URL]http://www.naturalnews.com/034789_Ha...veillance.html[/URL]

Our seclusion from rest of continental US is one of many contributing factors. The attitude that no one from outside can come in Hawaii and tell the local government and law enforcement what or how to do things is prevalent but not outward. This may sound paranoid to some but if you see and look at how things come about within both the Law Enforcement and Government I swear there was some kind of connection. Be informed. Be wary. Be careful. And keep your recording devices close. Turn the tide against any form of abuse of authority.

[QUOTE=Roadrally2;2459047]I'm surprised this whole forum is public tbh. There should be some sort of restricted acess page or forum where by only qualified individuals ie post x reports or senior member etc can read and share info.[/QUOTE]A similar site on the San Francisco Bay Area, [URL]myredbook.com[/URL] got shut down by the FBI for trafficking.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;2458690]I was friends with a girl who worked in LA. She was my go-to, regular provider at the time.

She was very popular on another site that can't be named and had pages and pages and pages of reviews. She operated out of an apartment in Sherman Oaks with a bunch of other girls. It was kind of like an AMP, without the table shower or any pretext of giving a massage; on the mainland they call this kind of setup a trickpad.

Anyway, one day the cops raided the apartment. She told me they knew who all of them were and when she was being booked she was kind of a celebrity in the police station because of all the things that were written about her on the site. They'd printed out her reviews and circulated them among the investigating officers.

So yeah. I have no doubt that there's someone at HPD headquarters reading this right now. I have no doubt that they know exactly who all those girls at the AMPs you guys keep on talking about are. The bust that happened to my friend occurred back in the mid-2000's. I'd imagine cops have only gotten better at collecting and managing the information that comes their way.[/QUOTE]Of course they do. I ain't no Sherlock Holmes but I found this site by going on google one day many years ago. Cops are way more knowledgable about crime, they read these forums. This bust is politically driven. Its also politically driven that they've been allowed to stay in business this long. I learned all the rules, formalities of the AMPs before I ever went into one. I remember my first time steeping in and I was like, yups, this is what is exactly written. After the girl took off all her clothes, I was like, yups, dudes wasn't lying. LOL.

[QUOTE=CompDude35;2458872]If you haven't noticed, a lot of the old timers (like me) don't post and rarely say anything anymore.
Couple of reasons...girls know who you are since they are on here all the time, prevent trolls from attacking you, and laying low from providing any obvious 411 for others who don't need to know (popo).

PMs are the way and for those who don't reply/respond, then no sharing for them either.

CD35[/QUOTE]For over 10 years.

New name was culoman. Forgot password. There are a lot of names I don't recognize.

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2458862]Well said. Our detailed reports just give HPD more information on AMPs that they are trying to close or build a case against providers. We shouldn't be sharing so much info with them. That would explain why these message boards in mainland cities are so devoid of info, while our boards are so active. They figured out the police read these public forum messages. Let's not help them make arrests.[/QUOTE]Our posts. They just Google escorts AMP go to back page other ad sited and know who to check out.

[QUOTE=Kalani69;2458969]No one gets re-elected, or elected for that matter, in September but that doesn't mean the raids are not politically motivated. Among other reasons.[/QUOTE]Session I'm sure that Xian nut job is lobby ing some new tougher laws. So legislators complain to hpd and then they raid.

[QUOTE=BulgogiBoy;2459064]A similar site on the San Francisco Bay Area, [URL]myredbook.com[/URL] got shut down by the FBI for trafficking.[/QUOTE]More of advertising site with reviews?

Not forum with members discussing.