General Reports

[QUOTE=Racerx74;4832130]I'm not sure where to put this, street walkers or UTR so I am putting it here. I've seen Mimi a few times and always had a great time. Sometimes I get a better rate depending on her day and we all know how that goes. I get a text she is available and needs to pay the rent. No problem, everything goes great and I have fun. I text her a day later and the response is "I can't do that rate anymore, my gatekeeper said I'm worth more and not to do it anymore. " First I'm kind of bummed but it is what it is. I respond that's fine, I didn't know you had a pimp and I prefer not to see girls that do. Had a great with you but thanks. Later she texts back--here is where I lose my shit and not on her. She says she doesn't have a pimp, only a real good friend from USAG that said I shouldn't do those prices anymore. I tried to get her number a few months ago from a board member who denied me because I guess I wasn't senior but still got it. SO let me understand this. Mongers are now cock blocking us from getting a good rate from one of their special girls because he feels she's worth more? Is this now the way things are? She of course said he doesn't get anything for it because they are friends and I hope she's fucking lying but WTF. So now I won't see her for her regular rate or now bother helping her out when she needs it. Just FYI is she reads this, there are 10 girls within one block who will do it for cheaper and are just as good.

Has anyone had this happen? Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]You should have had your rate grandfathered in especially after seeing her a few times. If she is new to our hobby then the gatekeeper should have told her that.

[QUOTE=TrollingObt;4832877]Yes, you are wrong. Her rates are surprisingly low for a girl with her energy and hot body. If she raised it then it was her choice. She was nervous about doing this. It makes absolutely no difference to me how much money she makes.

I'm sure you can find them for a lot less but they are called streetwalkers. She provides in call cheaper than anyone out there and she almost always provides extra time and her repeat business is very high. By the way, she is worth more but she sets her rate and it has zero impact on me.[/QUOTE]See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You say things like "She provides in call cheaper than anyone out there", but you don't actually say what that rate is. Nobody ever does, only on this specific UTR category. It's so weird. You're all trying to hard to make these UTR chicks like you. You're afraid to post anything negative about them, because they or their gatekeepers might keep you from seeing someone else or they'll refuse to see you again themselves. Guys, you are the one paying them. You are the one with all the negotiating power in this transactional relationship. And that's exactly what this is, a transactional relationship. It's not a friendship. It's not a courtship. You pay them to get what you want, it's as simple as that. Stop putting them up on pedestals and stop looking out for them over your fellow mongers.

If it's really true that "it makes absolutely no difference" to you how much money she makes, or "it has zero impact" on you, then why would you tell her to start charging more? Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, actually. Maaaaybe she was severely underpricing herself. It's true, UTR chicks should earn more than a streetwalker or even a regular advertiser. That safety garners a higher price. It's just business. So maybe you were just trying to get her to standard UTR rates. That's completely understandable. But, I have no way to know if that's actually the case, because I have no idea what her original rate was, or what this new higher one is. Hell, I don't even know what the standard rate for UTR is, because like I've been saying, you guys that are hung up on these UTRs don't give any useful information because you're too concerned with keeping the girl happy.

Did anybody else notice there's way too many spams flooded the lists? There must too many dumbass amateurs feeding these mofos.

[QUOTE=LeesburgFun91;4833341]See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You say things like "She provides in call cheaper than anyone out there", but you don't actually say what that rate is. Nobody ever does, only on this specific UTR category. It's so weird. You're all trying to hard to make these UTR chicks like you. You're afraid to post anything negative about them, because they or their gatekeepers might keep you from seeing someone else or they'll refuse to see you again themselves. Guys, you are the one paying them. You are the one with all the negotiating power in this transactional relationship. And that's exactly what this is, a transactional relationship. It's not a friendship. It's not a courtship. You pay them to get what you want, it's as simple as that. Stop putting them up on pedestals and stop looking out for them over your fellow mongers.

If it's really true that "it makes absolutely no difference" to you how much money she makes, or "it has zero impact" on you, then why would you tell her to start charging more? Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, actually. Maaaaybe she was severely underpricing herself. It's true, UTR chicks should earn more than a streetwalker or even a regular advertiser. That safety garners a higher price. It's just business. So maybe you were just trying to get her to standard UTR rates. That's completely understandable. But, I have no way to know if that's actually the case, because I have no idea what her original rate was, or what this new higher one is. Hell, I don't even know what the standard rate for UTR is, because like I've been saying, you guys that are hung up on these UTRs don't give any useful information because you're too concerned with keeping the girl happy.[/QUOTE]I didn't tell her to start charging more, that was her decision if it happened. I told her not to let anyone take advantage of her.

After she got past a scheduling issue on day one she hasn't had a single negative review. Anyone is free to say anything they want about her and every post has been overwhelmingly positive. She regularly gets multiple hour visits and some guys want full service while some only want blow jobs. She decides what her time is worth for what the guy wants and if they agree then they do the date. Many guys have asked what her rate was when they requested her number and I gave them what I thought she was charging at the time. Guys were showing up for incall and only had $50 dollars with them. If those are the mongers you feel sorry for then I really don't care what you think.

I gave her phone number, many clear pics and her general rates to anyone that asked if they met minimum qualifications. What more information would anyone need? Well over 100 guys have her number and many have seen her multiple times in the same week. If she had issues then you would be reading about them.

It's got nothing to do with getting them to like me. I've helped girls that I've never even met.

[QUOTE=DreamForever69;4833331]You should have had your rate grandfathered in especially after seeing her a few times. If she is new to our hobby then the gatekeeper should have told her that.[/QUOTE]The gatekeeper, what a joke. So many guys through the years on here think they are something special, but yet get to know a girl for a while and she will talk shit about the very guy that is on here talking her up like he is something special. It's funny to me to read and watch the know it alls. These chicks don't care about us in the end, its really about the habit and the $. Too funny. Not talking about anyone in particular and not you Dreamforever, just in general. Some people are white knights, and some people think they are.

[QUOTE=TheLantern;4833717]The gatekeeper, what a joke. So many guys through the years on here think they are something special, but yet get to know a girl for a while and she will talk shit about the very guy that is on here talking her up like he is something special. It's funny to me to read and watch the know it alls. These chicks don't care about us in the end, its really about the habit and the $. Too funny. Not talking about anyone in particular and not you Dreamforever, just in general. Some people are white knights, and some people think they are.[/QUOTE]Mimi was fun, good looking and chill. Couldn't have been nicer. The issue I had was a monger trying to set a price. I understand some of the things certain people have posted. No real info, same person 500 hundred times with the exact same picture or very little variant etc etc. FYI, Mimi is definitely not streetwalker price. She has my great size spinner body for me. But he might actually cost her business. For me, If I have time and I set something up I expect to pay a normal rate or maybe a better price as a regular. If she (any girl) needs help because she is short then I expect to be helped on price as I am trying to help out also as I wasn't going to be seeing anyone that day or going out of my way. Please see Mimi she has always had good sessions with me and yes incall was clean (Think Alex OCD clean).

[QUOTE=Racerx74;4833779]Mimi was fun, good looking and chill. Couldn't have been nicer. The issue I had was a monger trying to set a price. I understand some of the things certain people have posted. No real info, same person 500 hundred times with the exact same picture or very little variant etc etc. FYI, Mimi is definitely not streetwalker price. She has my great size spinner body for me. But he might actually cost her business. For me, If I have time and I set something up I expect to pay a normal rate or maybe a better price as a regular. If she (any girl) needs help because she is short then I expect to be helped on price as I am trying to help out also as I wasn't going to be seeing anyone that day or going out of my way. Please see Mimi she has always had good sessions with me and yes incall was clean (Think Alex OCD clean).[/QUOTE]She told me the same thing, she was told to raise her prices that she was attracting too many low ballers, WTF.

Who the fuck told her to raise prices? That person needs to be banned, senior or not.

I haven't seen Mimi nor do I intend to. She looks way too skinny and ugly as fuck, and looks way too strung out. How some can call her cute is perplexing, compared to other providers.

But when a monger tells a provider to raise prices, then we need to chime in.

Too many suckers and clueless white knights. Note how nobody has gotten an actual fuck session with the 19 year old yet UTR she managed to swindle many here out of their cash.

[QUOTE=AmpedOut;4840068]She told me the same thing, she was told to raise her prices that she was attracting too many low ballers, WTF.[/QUOTE]
I don't know who Mimi is nor have I seen her but sounds like she's got a little hustler in her cute little body LOL. The whole gatekeeper bullshit is just to save face and sell her little hustler story.

Can't blame a tiny girl for wanting to fight against the world now can we?

Either pay a reasonable price or Nip it at the bud and move onto other girls before your girls know you're willing to pay higher prices. Better talents in town if you do your due diligence.

Just don't do this: fork the cash you're not willing to continually donate for her pussy and then blame the so called "gatekeeper" for screwing you over. You're simply enabling her hustling your very sorry ass next time.


Jokes aside... the moment prostitution becomes legal... these very same guys that complain about GPS will have a bad time with the "Sorry hunny I have to pay the taxman"
Just be glad her pussy isn't taxed right now alright? You can tell your grandkids later you once tapped free-range, tax-free pussy. Ones that settle on your price!

[QUOTE=TrollingObt;4833569]I didn't tell her to start charging more, that was her decision if it happened. I told her not to let anyone take advantage of her.

After she got past a scheduling issue on day one she hasn't had a single negative review. Anyone is free to say anything they want about her and every post has been overwhelmingly positive. She regularly gets multiple hour visits and some guys want full service while some only want blow jobs. She decides what her time is worth for what the guy wants and if they agree then they do the date. Many guys have asked what her rate was when they requested her number and I gave them what I thought she was charging at the time. Guys were showing up for incall and only had $50 dollars with them. If those are the mongers you feel sorry for then I really don't care what you think.

I gave her phone number, many clear pics and her general rates to anyone that asked if they met minimum qualifications. What more information would anyone need? Well over 100 guys have her number and many have seen her multiple times in the same week. If she had issues then you would be reading about them.

It's got nothing to do with getting them to like me. I've helped girls that I've never even met.[/QUOTE]I appreciate TrollingOBT helping Mimi get set up and become a regular gal for us. I can say for a fact that he did not set rate. Prior to Mimi getting started in this more recent go around, she told me she was mainly a car date. She is now set up in a decent motel and her rates are no longer that of a normal street walker. Because she is no longer walking the streets looking for business. She provides the comfort and safety of a motel that is safe to park at, easy to get in and out.

From the beginning, Mimi talked about guys that would take advantage of her and by that I mean lowballing her or showing up with a lower than normal amount. Guys, if you think you will get street walker prices, the problem is your thinking that you set the market. And if you don't like it, she will help you to move on. She has the right to set her price, you have the right to pay or not pay. But, please stop the griping and blaming TrollingOBT. He did the board a service by helping her understand the importance of not double booking, having a clean room. She sets her price, not Trolling.

It's actually refreshing to see someone like Mimi that wants to make us happy, and not rip us off, and provide excellent value. I guess that is never going to be good enough for some people.

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Has anyone had a dream with her yet?

[QUOTE=HornyToad123;4840382]Who the fuck told her to raise prices? That person needs to be banned, senior or not.

I haven't seen Mimi nor do I intend to. She looks way too skinny and ugly as fuck, and looks way too strung out. How some can call her cute is perplexing, compared to other providers.

But when a monger tells a provider to raise prices, then we need to chime in.

Too many suckers and clueless white knights. Note how nobody has gotten an actual fuck session with the 19 year old yet UTR she managed to swindle many here out of their cash.[/QUOTE]Does it matter that it's not true! No one told her to raise her rates. Maybe it was a miscommunication between her and the original poster, but I discussed it with him after talking to her and we are fine and they are fine. He agreed that she's a very good girl. Now there are guys that have never met her chiming in that have no idea of what's really going on. I remember sharing numbers with you in the past but I'm not sure who it was. Maybe Alex or Nikki, but I guarantee it won't happen again.

Mimi's been in the area for years and was mentioned on the boards twice in the last 3 years. I knew there'd be guys that would want to see her and we discussed ways to make her more popular and keep her safe. I didn't want her to get eaten up by the streets so I suggested going UTR where she wouldn't have to worry about LEO.

Now there are assholes that never met her suggesting that she looks like a junkie. She hasn't had any negative reviews of dates and not one date review suggested any drug use. It's assholes that admit they have never spoken to her. I'm willing to bet there are few dates that don't repeat with her.

When she wanted to start we discussed rates and she knows what other girls make. I suggested that she start at a low rate to get guys interested. Should she be forced to keep that rate forever? I DID NOT tell her to raise her rates and she says she's still at the same rate which many guys have verified. Maybe some guys get different rates depending upon their desire, but it's entirely up to the guy and her.

I acted as a gatekeeper because it's the easiest way to help her stay safe and out of trouble. If a girl walks then she'll get harassed by LEO on a regular basis. If she advertises she'll probably eventually get called by Grady, OPD or MBI. The only way to stay safe is to have someone they trust share her number. When I supply her number I ask the guys to not share it. The guy bitching today had never posted before today so he didn't get the number from me.

Her rates are determined by her and her date. No one else. I can't imagine a girl at a lower rate for a very clean incall and I'll guarantee no other girl in that price range gets reviews even close to hers.

[QUOTE=LeesburgFun91;4832720]
There are some pussy-whipped, hardcore simps that need to remember that golden rule. BROS BEFORE HOS![/QUOTE]One Bro decided to steal the full $1200 of her stimulus money. Should I have helped him keep that rather than helping her get every penny back? There are many great guys on this forum but there are also many assholes. Having a dick instead of a pussy doesn't make someone a better person.

[QUOTE=HornyToad123;4840382]Who the fuck told her to raise prices? That person needs to be banned, senior or not.

I haven't seen Mimi nor do I intend to. She looks way too skinny and ugly as fuck, and looks way too strung out. How some can call her cute is perplexing, compared to other providers.

But when a monger tells a provider to raise prices, then we need to chime in.

Too many suckers and clueless white knights. Note how nobody has gotten an actual fuck session with the 19 year old yet UTR she managed to swindle many here out of their cash.[/QUOTE]All the reputable or good providers that I have seen several times have never raised their rates on me when they did start charging more for their services. How exactly does that conversation go? Johnny regular calls to schedule another session and the girl goes fine BTW it is now 40 roses more? Back to Mimi, she may be a great time but when her pics show more ribs than a full slat of baby back ribs not to mention her boobs or lack there of, calling her body hot to me sounds like a bit of a stretch. In addition to roses maybe bring her a burger or 2 or 3. I actually cringed when I saw some of her pics.

[QUOTE=TrollingObt;4840635]Does it matter that it's not true! No one told her to raise her rates. Maybe it was a miscommunication between her and the original poster, but I discussed it with him after talking to her and we are fine and they are fine. He agreed that she's a very good girl. Now there are guys that have never met her chiming in that have no idea of what's really going on. I remember sharing numbers with you in the past but I'm not sure who it was. Maybe Alex or Nikki, but I guarantee it won't happen again.

Mimi's been in the area for years and was mentioned on the boards twice in the last 3 years. I knew there'd be guys that would want to see her and we discussed ways to make her more popular and keep her safe. I didn't want her to get eaten up by the streets so I suggested going UTR where she wouldn't have to worry about LEO.

Now there are assholes that never met her suggesting that she looks like a junkie. She hasn't had any negative reviews of dates and not one date review suggested any drug use. It's assholes that admit they have never spoken to her. I'm willing to bet there are few dates that don't repeat with her.

When she wanted to start we discussed rates and she knows what other girls make. I suggested that she start at a low rate to get guys interested. Should she be forced to keep that rate forever? I DID NOT tell her to raise her rates and she says she's still at the same rate which many guys have verified. Maybe some guys get different rates depending upon their desire, but it's entirely up to the guy and her.

I acted as a gatekeeper because it's the easiest way to help her stay safe and out of trouble. If a girl walks then she'll get harassed by LEO on a regular basis. If she advertises she'll probably eventually get called by Grady, OPD or MBI. The only way to stay safe is to have someone they trust share her number. When I supply her number I ask the guys to not share it. The guy bitching today had never posted before today so he didn't get the number from me.

Her rates are determined by her and her date. No one else. I can't imagine a girl at a lower rate for a very clean incall and I'll guarantee no other girl in that price range gets reviews even close to hers.[/QUOTE]I checked all my private messages since I first joined, I never reached out to you and you have never reached out to me. So not sure what you're talking about. Especially since the only Alex I saw was AlexLynn and she is an advertiser, not UTR. Same with both Nikkibaby and Nikkole (whichever one you're referring to). So you did not help me out with anything. I also don't do streetwalkers so I avoid the SW section.

That out of the way, whether you're a gatekeeper (pimp?) or not, the goal of this site is to help each other out. Sure, you're free to help the providers any way you can. And sure, there are asshole mongers (I had to make a post about one not too long ago about some idiot not knowing what $$ means). But let's not make this into a white knight discussion. Money is all that matters to providers, they are not interested in friendships. I've seen well reviewed providers turn rogue on us, like Angela4 U. Now I read Ms. Anastacia (now Stacey) is borderline heading that way (a monger paid for an hour and she kicked him out after 20 minutes).

Pricing should be determined by the provider. Then it is up to us to accept or not, and call out any pricing discrepencies. "Helping them out" in this matter automatically makes you their pimp. That is my opinion on the subject and will not comment on this any further.