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From the BBFS providers' test results that I have seen, it's not 100%. I would guess 70% for hsv1 and 50% for hsv2. I think it's only porn stars % may approach 100%. They don't bother testing for that.

I have done BBFS from time to time and I am completely clean.

[QUOTE=Oramo;4572619]According to any health agency about 1/2 of all adults have Herpes.

[URL]http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/herpes/fast-facts-and-faqs/[/URL]

Which pretty much means %100 of providers have it. If the gal says she's having an outbreak, then stay away. Otherwise it's a given that all providers and mongers have it. ESPECIALLY the BBFS mongers.

The only danger really is the significant other dropping an anvil on your head when you fail to explain how she got HSP from you AFTER you were married.[/QUOTE]

Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.

[QUOTE=JoshFrank;4597951]Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.[/QUOTE]There will always be some element of risk from seeing pros in general and especially if you don't wrap it up. You just have to take a chance if you want to go with this route and there is a chance to catch something despite these girls get tested (I hope) and you yourself get tested regularly. If you feel this hobby is a bit much for you, you're going to have to either abstain or find a steady GF to BB with to eliminate any risk. Some of us are okay with these odds, some of us are not. This is up to you.

[QUOTE=JoshFrank;4597951]Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.[/QUOTE]I heard a doctor talking about how something less than 25% of people will ever show symptoms of hsv-2 and most likely most of the population who is sexually active have it.

Statistic may seem scary but you may be one of the lucky one. I don't know how but I am free of both after I got tested. I thought for sure I would have Herpes 1 as over 70% of people have it but I was pleasantly surprised that I don't have it.

[QUOTE=JoshFrank;4597951]Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.

But.

With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.

But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.

I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.

I am told that:

- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).

- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.

- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.

WTF?

Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?

I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.

Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavannaAtl;4569303]100% straight gamble. As a multi-year lurker and one party attendee, I personally think you guys are crazy going BB while in the next breath complaining about pros and drug addicts. Esp going home to a wife. My party was covered and I still rushed to my OBGYN for a full panel. This is why uncovered with me will always be a no no. Good luck gentlemen![/QUOTE]Sorry I saw this post from last month and had to weigh in. A 100% straight gamble would be a coin flip where your odds are 50% either way. A trip to Vegas where the house has an edge puts you at a 55% chance of losing depending on how many sucker bets you place. I do bb at parties and with regulars but often switch it up and use a cover. There is always some risk but it's not as dire as a coin toss. See pic for odds.

[QUOTE=TallWilly;4617689]Sorry I saw this post from last month and had to weigh in. A 100% straight gamble would be a coin flip where your odds are 50% either way. A trip to Vegas where the house has an edge puts you at a 55% chance of losing depending on how many sucker bets you place. I do bb at parties and with regulars but often switch it up and use a cover. There is always some risk but it's not as dire as a coin toss. See pic for odds.[/QUOTE]The only odds I have a problem believing is if a HIV positive ejaculated in a negative bottom, I would think it would be an automatic positive. I am sure it is correct, but it shocks me.

[QUOTE=BlaneJames;4598161]I heard a doctor talking about how something less than 25% of people will ever show symptoms of hsv-2 and most likely most of the population who is sexually active have it.[/QUOTE]I heard many people who get it fight it off naturally. Sometimes it can even become immune in most. Its the odds like all the others. I also heard condoms do nothing for catching that, just your sac touching her vagina while wearing a hat still will transmit that way.

Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?

I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.

(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).

[QUOTE=SkSoccer;4636346]Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?

I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.

(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).[/QUOTE]I've been getting BBBJs from SWs for 25+ years and don't have herpes.

However, it's absolutely possible you get it first time out. It's luck of the draw, and a little common sense. Don't let a girl with obvious mouth sores go down on you. But you usually won't see it coming.

[QUOTE=MalMonger;4636364]I've been getting BBBJs from SWs for 25+ years and don't have herpes.

However, it's absolutely possible you get it first time out. It's luck of the draw, and a little common sense. Don't let a girl with obvious mouth sores go down on you. But you usually won't see it coming.[/QUOTE]Actually, herpes is most contagious just before the sores appear.

[QUOTE=SkSoccer;4636346]Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?

I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.

(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).[/QUOTE]I've been in the game for a long time and I'm clean. I get checked out regularly at an anonymous clinic and never had an issue.

[QUOTE=SkSoccer;4636448]Actually, herpes is most contagious just before the sores appear.[/QUOTE]I do not know of any source that can confirm then, much less a credible one.

In regards to Oral Herpes: "[I]HSV-1 is most contagious during an outbreak of symptomatic oral herpes, but can also be transmitted when no symptoms are felt or visible. [/I]".

[URL]https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/herpes-simplex-virus[/URL]

[QUOTE=SkSoccer;4636346]Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?

I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.

(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).[/QUOTE]Once interacting with someone at risk the odds shoot up radically. What I'm pointing out isn't necessarily herpes but rather other things. If you play especially in the the SW side expect scabies, ring worm, or just about any communicable disease. Remember 3 quarters of the girls are out there to feed a habit. Even for those that claim hygiene you're still by meeting as many people that handle a shopping cart. Unfortunately the cart you touched is a living petri dish with the flu or worse. So wrap, wash, protect, but eventually something can still happen it's just odds.

So you see where providers will do BBBJ and CFS. Is sucking bare cock that much safer than actual bareback sex? Or is it mostly a pregnancy thing? I was with a woman last week and she sucked and let me play without protection but when it came time for my cock to get near her pussy is was cover time. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there who will know all kind of statistics and stuff. Just wondering.

SD.